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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Vegoe » Mon Mar 09 1:40 pm

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Dumb question. Does every NHL team have the same “salary cap?” And is that essentially the same thing as the max payroll?
Basically, but your cap number can be reduced if you have cap recpature penalties like Florida and Vancouver are assessed for Luongo or if you had an overage due to performance bonuses putting you over the cap the year before. Some teams have had to play with less than full NHL rosters to stay under the cap.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by fightclub30 » Mon Mar 09 2:17 pm

Vegoe wrote:
Mon Mar 09 1:40 pm
Cowgirl wrote:
Mon Mar 09 1:37 pm
Dumb question. Does every NHL team have the same “salary cap?” And is that essentially the same thing as the max payroll?
Basically, but your cap number can be reduced if you have cap recpature penalties like Florida and Vancouver are assessed for Luongo or if you had an overage due to performance bonuses putting you over the cap the year before. Some teams have had to play with less than full NHL rosters to stay under the cap.
Or if you have buyouts... Or if you have LTIR (could exceed cap)... Or if you had Performance Bonuses from the prior year that put you over the cap that season...

The more I look into it, the more complicated it becomes. To me at least.

But, yes every team has the same salary cap. There are just a plethora of issues which make affect each teams individual number/availability.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by streakygopher » Mon Mar 09 2:26 pm

I noticed that captain Koivu was on the bench for most of the big minutes late last night. Rather telling.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Cowgirl » Mon Mar 09 3:18 pm

Vegoe wrote:
Mon Mar 09 1:40 pm
Cowgirl wrote:
Mon Mar 09 1:37 pm
Dumb question. Does every NHL team have the same “salary cap?” And is that essentially the same thing as the max payroll?
Basically, but your cap number can be reduced if you have cap recpature penalties like Florida and Vancouver are assessed for Luongo or if you had an overage due to performance bonuses putting you over the cap the year before. Some teams have had to play with less than full NHL rosters to stay under the cap.
So basically what you’re telling me is I have no shot at understanding this. It’s all gibberish when I read the posts here. That and all the stats. I used to know all the baseball ones, I’ve given up on that. 😆

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by J22 » Mon Mar 09 3:48 pm

Vegoe wrote:
Mon Mar 09 12:17 pm
J22 wrote:
Mon Mar 09 9:41 am
Thirty-Four wrote:
Mon Mar 09 2:20 am
J22 wrote:
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Is that the last game that Dubnyk plays for the Wild?
Not addressing that position should be the nagging concern with fans regarding the direction of the franchise. Not addressing it is ok if you tank for a top pick in the draft. Not addressing it when the owner has shown he wants to make the playoffs by hook or by crook is confounding.
Guerin threw away the entire season by doing nothing about the goaltending.
Cap wise, what could they have executed this year? I think the expectation was they'd get league average goaltending.

https://www.capfriendly.com/signings/all/all/goalies

Maybe Cam Talbot, Curtis McElhinney or Mike Smith maybe were options, but would have put them in an awful cap spot for the season.

$ - https://theathletic.com/1234514/2019/09 ... ie%20tiers

This panel had Duby at No. 15... This evaluation from a GM pretty much summed up where a lot of people were on Dubnyk: “I think he’s a No. 1 goalie but he’s an average No. 1 goalie.”
Lehner signed a 1 year deal with Chicago coming off of a Vezina caliber season. Gotta believe that he would've loved to play that 1 "prove it" season behind the Wild system. The Wild with Robin Lehner instead of Alex Stalock is likely a top 3 team in the West.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by J22 » Mon Mar 09 3:52 pm

Cowgirl wrote:
Mon Mar 09 3:18 pm
Vegoe wrote:
Mon Mar 09 1:40 pm
Cowgirl wrote:
Mon Mar 09 1:37 pm
Dumb question. Does every NHL team have the same “salary cap?” And is that essentially the same thing as the max payroll?
Basically, but your cap number can be reduced if you have cap recpature penalties like Florida and Vancouver are assessed for Luongo or if you had an overage due to performance bonuses putting you over the cap the year before. Some teams have had to play with less than full NHL rosters to stay under the cap.
So basically what you’re telling me is I have no shot at understanding this. It’s all gibberish when I read the posts here. That and all the stats. I used to know all the baseball ones, I’ve given up on that. 😆
It's not that complicated. Every team starts with the same number, and that is the "max payroll". All contracts are guaranteed, so there are costs to make the bad contracts go away. That's where all the talk about Cap recapture, and Buyouts comes in.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by J22 » Mon Mar 09 3:53 pm

streakygopher wrote:
Mon Mar 09 2:26 pm
I noticed that captain Koivu was on the bench for most of the big minutes late last night. Rather telling.
He got hurt halfway through the 3rd

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by streakygopher » Mon Mar 09 4:11 pm

J22 wrote:
Mon Mar 09 3:53 pm
streakygopher wrote:
Mon Mar 09 2:26 pm
I noticed that captain Koivu was on the bench for most of the big minutes late last night. Rather telling.
He got hurt halfway through the 3rd
Didn't know that. He was on the bench at the end of the game.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by NYC Gopher fan » Mon Mar 09 5:52 pm

streakygopher wrote:
Mon Mar 09 4:11 pm
J22 wrote:
Mon Mar 09 3:53 pm
streakygopher wrote:
Mon Mar 09 2:26 pm
I noticed that captain Koivu was on the bench for most of the big minutes late last night. Rather telling.
He got hurt halfway through the 3rd
Didn't know that. He was on the bench at the end of the game.
He’s hurt again? He’s also got some stuff going on off the ice, too.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Vegoe » Tue Mar 10 9:37 am

J22 wrote:
Mon Mar 09 3:48 pm
Lehner signed a 1 year deal with Chicago coming off of a Vezina caliber season. Gotta believe that he would've loved to play that 1 "prove it" season behind the Wild system. The Wild with Robin Lehner instead of Alex Stalock is likely a top 3 team in the West.
He got $5M in a one year deal with Chicago though -- Wild could not have matched that one.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by J22 » Tue Mar 10 9:46 am

Vegoe wrote:
Tue Mar 10 9:37 am
J22 wrote:
Mon Mar 09 3:48 pm
Lehner signed a 1 year deal with Chicago coming off of a Vezina caliber season. Gotta believe that he would've loved to play that 1 "prove it" season behind the Wild system. The Wild with Robin Lehner instead of Alex Stalock is likely a top 3 team in the West.
He got $5M in a one year deal with Chicago though -- Wild could not have matched that one.
The Wild wouldn't have to offer that much. They have the perfect system for a goalie to sign a 1 year deal and then cash out in UFA.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Vegoe » Tue Mar 10 11:45 am

Okay... this sounds like a guy confident in his ability and not wanting to leave money on the table.


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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by J22 » Tue Mar 10 12:06 pm

Vegoe wrote:
Tue Mar 10 11:45 am
Okay... this sounds like a guy confident in his ability and not wanting to leave money on the table.

Yeah, that's probably why he signed a 1 year deal coming off of a Vezina nomination.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Vegoe » Wed Mar 11 9:23 am

J22 wrote:
Tue Mar 10 12:06 pm
Yeah, that's probably why he signed a 1 year deal coming off of a Vezina nomination.
https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/acti ... ll/goalies

Yeah, a one-year deal at $5M which puts him as the 14th highest paid goalie in the NHL... that's $777,777 more than Dubnyk makes.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by J22 » Wed Mar 11 9:41 am

Vegoe wrote:
Wed Mar 11 9:23 am
J22 wrote:
Tue Mar 10 12:06 pm
Yeah, that's probably why he signed a 1 year deal coming off of a Vezina nomination.
https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/acti ... ll/goalies

Yeah, a one-year deal at $5M which puts him as the 14th highest paid goalie in the NHL... that's $777,777 more than Dubnyk makes.
What's your point?

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by F Da Sue » Thu Mar 12 12:36 pm

Congrats to Koivu on a great career. Hard to believe we’ll never see him on the ice again.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

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F Da Sue wrote:
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Congrats to Koivu on a great career. Hard to believe we’ll never see him on the ice again.
Wow, that didn’t hit me until you said it. Saw him out in the yard with his kids last night.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by frozen4champs » Tue Mar 17 10:35 am

Matt Boldy named to Hockey East all rookie team. After a slow start he ended up with 26 points in 34 games ( 9g 17a)
Vladislav Firstov of U Conn was also an all rookie team selection. He was a 2019 2nd round pick for the Wild.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Grovetown Scotty » Sun Apr 19 2:36 pm

Watching game game 7 from 2003 vs. the Avalanche.
Peter Forsberg was so good. One of my favorite players of that era.
Greenlay was annoying 17 years ago too.
Totally different game on dump ins. Defenseman were still able to impede when the puck was chipped behind them.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Greyeagle » Fri Apr 24 8:46 pm

Remember that time Bertuzzi wasn't a complete puke? Neither do I.

I think the Wild could pull this one out!
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by team22tank » Wed Apr 29 9:52 pm

NHL bringing teams back mid or late May.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by J22 » Wed Apr 29 10:34 pm

team22tank wrote:
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NHL bringing teams back mid or late May.
Where are you getting that?

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by team22tank » Wed Apr 29 10:41 pm

J22 wrote:
Wed Apr 29 10:34 pm
team22tank wrote:
Wed Apr 29 9:52 pm
NHL bringing teams back mid or late May.
Where are you getting that?
It was channel 9 news. To be honest just caught it and then they cut to a video interview with Fiala.

I believe it was, bringing players back, assembling, ect. Don’t know about anything official.

Might have more to do with getting overseas guys back so if they go live everyone is over here.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by J22 » Wed Apr 29 10:44 pm

team22tank wrote:
Wed Apr 29 10:41 pm
J22 wrote:
Wed Apr 29 10:34 pm
team22tank wrote:
Wed Apr 29 9:52 pm
NHL bringing teams back mid or late May.
Where are you getting that?
It was channel 9 news. To be honest just caught it and then they cut to a video interview with Fiala.

I believe it was, bringing players back, assembling, ect. Don’t know about anything official.

Might have more to do with getting overseas guys back so if they go live everyone is over here.
Just saw that Seravalli has something on it. Basically the NHL hoping if everything goes well they can start talking about getting back together at the end of May. Not much there.

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl-targets-mid-to-l ... -1.1471270

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by D2D » Wed Apr 29 10:50 pm

What I heard from Channel 9's sports is that they're shooting to complete the season in September and October (nothing real new there). The segment also featured an interview with Fiala, who says he has access to a local rink and is "staying in shape" by skating 5 days a week.
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Vegoe » Thu Apr 30 10:56 am

J22 wrote:
Wed Apr 29 10:34 pm
team22tank wrote:
Wed Apr 29 9:52 pm
NHL bringing teams back mid or late May.
Where are you getting that?
I think a lot of people are getting that one from John Scott:



All just a scenario right now from what I can glean.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by team22tank » Sat May 02 12:58 pm

Vegoe wrote:
Thu Apr 30 10:56 am
J22 wrote:
Wed Apr 29 10:34 pm
team22tank wrote:
Wed Apr 29 9:52 pm
NHL bringing teams back mid or late May.
Where are you getting that?
I think a lot of people are getting that one from John Scott:



All just a scenario right now from what I can glean.
The NHL sent out a memo telling players it might be wise to start working your way back to your team’s city as small organized events might start taking place in Mid to late May.

My call is they will be playing sometime in June, probably late.
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by team22tank » Sat May 02 12:59 pm

It will be interesting to see if there is going to be a compliance buyout whenever this 2019-2020 season concludes.

Revenue is going to take a major hit because of what is going.

Parise would for sure be the candidate and that would end trying to trade him.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by J22 » Sat May 02 3:34 pm

team22tank wrote:
Sat May 02 12:59 pm
It will be interesting to see if there is going to be a compliance buyout whenever this 2019-2020 season concludes.

Revenue is going to take a major hit because of what is going.

Parise would for sure be the candidate and that would end trying to trade him.
Would be the best thing that could happen to the franchise

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by fightclub30 » Sat May 02 4:09 pm

J22 wrote:
Sat May 02 3:34 pm
team22tank wrote:
Sat May 02 12:59 pm
It will be interesting to see if there is going to be a compliance buyout whenever this 2019-2020 season concludes.

Revenue is going to take a major hit because of what is going.

Parise would for sure be the candidate and that would end trying to trade him.
Would be the best thing that could happen to the franchise
Not a new goalie? :poke:

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by J22 » Sat May 02 4:20 pm

fightclub30 wrote:
Sat May 02 4:09 pm
J22 wrote:
Sat May 02 3:34 pm
team22tank wrote:
Sat May 02 12:59 pm
It will be interesting to see if there is going to be a compliance buyout whenever this 2019-2020 season concludes.

Revenue is going to take a major hit because of what is going.

Parise would for sure be the candidate and that would end trying to trade him.
Would be the best thing that could happen to the franchise
Not a new goalie? :poke:
They could use a couple of those as well.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by gopher6 » Mon May 11 5:04 pm

The Russian will not be signing this year

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Bertogliat » Mon May 11 7:31 pm

gopher6 wrote:
Mon May 11 5:04 pm
The Russian will not be signing this year
So 2024?

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by team22tank » Mon May 11 7:53 pm

Bertogliat wrote:
Mon May 11 7:31 pm
gopher6 wrote:
Mon May 11 5:04 pm
The Russian will not be signing this year
So 2024?
Post is confusing. The NHL isn’t going to allow teams to add new contracts to their rosters if the 2019-2020 resumes this Summer. Kaprizov was hopeful he could have played this Summer and burned year one of his contract.

He very well could sign his deal soon, his rookie year would be 2020-2021 just like it was going to be before all this stuff happened.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Goldy77 » Mon May 11 8:30 pm

Yep, not sure what that post was supposed to mean, unless he talked to Kirill himself.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Bertogliat » Mon May 11 9:28 pm

team22tank wrote:
Mon May 11 7:53 pm
Bertogliat wrote:
Mon May 11 7:31 pm
gopher6 wrote:
Mon May 11 5:04 pm
The Russian will not be signing this year
So 2024?
Post is confusing. The NHL isn’t going to allow teams to add new contracts to their rosters if the 2019-2020 resumes this Summer. Kaprizov was hopeful he could have played this Summer and burned year one of his contract.

He very well could sign his deal soon, his rookie year would be 2020-2021 just like it was going to be before all this stuff happened.
I was wondering if Kirill would just say F it and play in the K.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by team22tank » Tue May 12 7:43 am

Bertogliat wrote:
Mon May 11 9:28 pm
team22tank wrote:
Mon May 11 7:53 pm
Bertogliat wrote:
Mon May 11 7:31 pm
gopher6 wrote:
Mon May 11 5:04 pm
The Russian will not be signing this year
So 2024?
Post is confusing. The NHL isn’t going to allow teams to add new contracts to their rosters if the 2019-2020 resumes this Summer. Kaprizov was hopeful he could have played this Summer and burned year one of his contract.

He very well could sign his deal soon, his rookie year would be 2020-2021 just like it was going to be before all this stuff happened.
I was wondering if Kirill would just say F it and play in the K.
I was referring to the original post. It makes it sound like Kaprizov is making a choice not to sign.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by ScoobyDoo » Tue May 12 8:28 am

Bertogliat wrote:
Mon May 11 9:28 pm
team22tank wrote:
Mon May 11 7:53 pm
Bertogliat wrote:
Mon May 11 7:31 pm
gopher6 wrote:
Mon May 11 5:04 pm
The Russian will not be signing this year
So 2024?
Post is confusing. The NHL isn’t going to allow teams to add new contracts to their rosters if the 2019-2020 resumes this Summer. Kaprizov was hopeful he could have played this Summer and burned year one of his contract.

He very well could sign his deal soon, his rookie year would be 2020-2021 just like it was going to be before all this stuff happened.
I was wondering if Kirill would just say F it and play in the K.
The article indicates that may happen, With the KHL likely to play this fall and the NHL likely delayed till December for next season it is very possible he just waits out another year to come over.
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Bonin21 » Tue May 12 9:38 am

ScoobyDoo wrote:
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The article indicates that may happen, With the KHL likely to play this fall and the NHL likely delayed till December for next season it is very possible he just waits out another year to come over.
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Bladepuller » Tue May 12 1:50 pm

Bonin21 wrote:
Tue May 12 9:38 am
ScoobyDoo wrote:
Tue May 12 8:28 am

The article indicates that may happen, With the KHL likely to play this fall and the NHL likely delayed till December for next season it is very possible he just waits out another year to come over.
And repeat until he's able to find a way to land on a contender's roster.
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Good Lord you can be a Debbie Downer.
How about the angle that in coming to a team a player will strengthen them and turn them into contenders.
Not every athlete wants to jump on a bandwagon. Some want to be the maestro.
Russian hockey players (most of my favorite players by the way) are an interesting bunch when it comes to coming to the NHL.

If the Wild do bring him in and get rid of the badger and the Whioux eating up massive contracts (sorry, just can't cheer for them), maybe I'd start being interested in the squad.
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Bonin21 wrote:
Tue May 12 2:24 pm
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Good Lord you can be a Debbie Downer.
How about the angle that in coming to a team a player will strengthen them and turn them into contenders.
Not every athlete wants to jump on a bandwagon. Some want to be the maestro.
Russian hockey players (most of my favorite players by the way) are an interesting bunch when it comes to coming to the NHL.

If the Wild do bring him in and get rid of the badger and the Whioux eating up massive contracts (sorry, just can't cheer for them), maybe I'd start being interested in the squad.
Please don't.

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Post by Bertogliat » Tue May 12 3:24 pm

J22 wrote:
Tue May 12 3:16 pm
Bonin21 wrote:
Tue May 12 2:24 pm
Bladepuller wrote:
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Good Lord you can be a Debbie Downer.
How about the angle that in coming to a team a player will strengthen them and turn them into contenders.
Not every athlete wants to jump on a bandwagon. Some want to be the maestro.
Russian hockey players (most of my favorite players by the way) are an interesting bunch when it comes to coming to the NHL.

If the Wild do bring him in and get rid of the badger and the Whioux eating up massive contracts (sorry, just can't cheer for them), maybe I'd start being interested in the squad.
Please don't.
He won't.

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The article indicates that may happen, With the KHL likely to play this fall and the NHL likely delayed till December for next season it is very possible he just waits out another year to come over.
And repeat until he's able to find a way to land on a contender's roster.
Good Lord you can be a Debbie Downer.
How about the angle that in coming to a team a player will strengthen them and turn them into contenders.
Not every athlete wants to jump on a bandwagon. Some want to be the maestro.
Good point. Fiala has that MO, a guy that wants to put the team on his back every night. If Kaprizov brings some of that to the table this team could be a lot to handle.

The D core has been rock solid for almost a decade and isn’t changing.

Figure out the goaltending and we could have something.

And Bruce is already gone.

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I liked how BB appeared to be as a person.
I never thought the Wild had the type of personnel he liked, IMHO. I think he liked a "heavy" game. Ala the Ducks.
The new guy sure started well. I hope there is some kind of continuation to see how his system plays out.
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Bladepuller wrote:
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I liked how BB appeared to be as a person.
I never thought the Wild had the type of personnel he liked, IMHO. I think he liked a "heavy" game. Ala the Ducks.
The new guy sure started well. I hope there is some kind of continuation to see how his system plays out.
Bruce screwed up and was holding a grudge. Fenton tried to fire him and Bruce was upset Granlund got traded. He couldn’t let it go and saddled the Wild’s top forward, best skater, fastest skater, best stickhandler and maybe the best forward shot. Long story short he was throttling the best Wild forward. He should have been fired 15 games in.

Ironically if he would have given Fiala the proper role he probably finishes out the season as the Coach.

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team22tank wrote:
Tue May 12 5:43 pm
Bladepuller wrote:
Tue May 12 5:12 pm
I liked how BB appeared to be as a person.
I never thought the Wild had the type of personnel he liked, IMHO. I think he liked a "heavy" game. Ala the Ducks.
The new guy sure started well. I hope there is some kind of continuation to see how his system plays out.
Bruce screwed up and was holding a grudge. Fenton tried to fire him and Bruce was upset Granlund got traded. He couldn’t let it go and saddled the Wild’s top forward, best skater, fastest skater, best stickhandler and maybe the best forward shot. Long story short he was throttling the best Wild forward. He should have been fired 15 games in.

Ironically if he would have given Fiala the proper role he probably finishes out the season as the Coach.
Granlund disappeared when teams got physical. Tons of stick and skating skills but the Jets & Blues were living rent free in his head when it got serious in the spring.
I wonder how the Preds feel about that trade now?
Fiala didn't impress me when he was in Nashville but I really didn't pay much attention and then there was that broken leg issue.
I sure like his game now though.
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Post by ScoobyDoo » Wed May 13 8:19 am

Hilarious considering Fiala called Bruce first after he was fired and thanked him for turning him around. But, yeah, let's all go with the bs narrative above.
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ScoobyDoo wrote:
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Hilarious considering Fiala called Bruce first after he was fired and thanked him for turning him around. But, yeah, let's all go with the bs narrative above.
Or, maybe Fiala just has more class than Boudreau will ever know?

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Hilarious considering Fiala called Bruce first after he was fired and thanked him for turning him around. But, yeah, let's all go with the bs narrative above.
BS narrative? Fiala was playing 12-14 minutes a night under Bruce that is a fact. He was going out 2nd PP every night, fact. His minutes skyrocketed about the last 8 games under Bruce and from what we know that was due to the GM saying, what the hell are you doing?

The GM flat out said he and Bruce weren’t seeing eye to eye.

And yes thanks for pointing out that piece on Fiala. By all accounts he is a young leader, works hard and wants to lead this team. He has said all the right things and followed it up on the ice.

Which makes it even more baffling Bruce was burrying him.

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Interesting look at goalies/age/cap situations in NHL. After reading this I'm more convinced the Wild should buy out Duby at age 34 and give a prospect a run in the NHL when season picks up next year.

They are kind of in a position where they have a cheap backup in Stalock (32) and a primary prospect who is ready for a shot in the league in Kaapo Kahkonen (23) who has had two AHL seasons with above average numbers. They do have a secondary prospect in Mat Robson (24) where they need to get him games as a No. 1 minor league goalie and might be ready in case Kahkonen doesn't work out.

They have a younger prospect like Dereck Baribeau (21) who might be ready as a minor league starter and then depth down the line who will need nets to play in when they turn pro with Umass Filip Lindberg (21) and Peterborough Hunter Jones (19).

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Interesting look at goalies/age/cap situations in NHL. After reading this I'm more convinced the Wild should buy out Duby at age 34 and give a prospect a run in the NHL when season picks up next year.

They are kind of in a position where they have a cheap backup in Stalock (32) and a primary prospect who is ready for a shot in the league in Kaapo Kahkonen (23) who has had two AHL seasons with above average numbers. They do have a secondary prospect in Mat Robson (24) where they need to get him games as a No. 1 minor league goalie and might be ready in case Kahkonen doesn't work out.

They have a younger prospect like Dereck Baribeau (21) who might be ready as a minor league starter and then depth down the line who will need nets to play in when they turn pro with Umass Filip Lindberg (21) and Peterborough Hunter Jones (19).
Kahkonen absolutely should be in the NHL next season. Stalock absolutely should not. Guerin needs to find a much better option to split time with Kahkonen. Stalock can go be a "good teammate" in Iowa.

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J22 wrote:
Wed May 13 12:05 pm
Vegoe wrote:
Wed May 13 11:19 am


Interesting look at goalies/age/cap situations in NHL. After reading this I'm more convinced the Wild should buy out Duby at age 34 and give a prospect a run in the NHL when season picks up next year.

They are kind of in a position where they have a cheap backup in Stalock (32) and a primary prospect who is ready for a shot in the league in Kaapo Kahkonen (23) who has had two AHL seasons with above average numbers. They do have a secondary prospect in Mat Robson (24) where they need to get him games as a No. 1 minor league goalie and might be ready in case Kahkonen doesn't work out.

They have a younger prospect like Dereck Baribeau (21) who might be ready as a minor league starter and then depth down the line who will need nets to play in when they turn pro with Umass Filip Lindberg (21) and Peterborough Hunter Jones (19).
Kahkonen absolutely should be in the NHL next season. Stalock absolutely should not. Guerin needs to find a much better option to split time with Kahkonen. Stalock can go be a "good teammate" in Iowa.
The Dubnyk buyout is a no brainer. Hardly cost the organization anything and most importantly frees up the roster spot.

Stalock can go to Iowa and if for some reason, injury, Kappo struggles, ect. he is there as a option.

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Post by Greyeagle » Wed May 13 12:51 pm

Stalock is only 32? Seems like he's been driving me nuts for a lot longer than that.
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Wed May 13 11:19 am


Interesting look at goalies/age/cap situations in NHL. After reading this I'm more convinced the Wild should buy out Duby at age 34 and give a prospect a run in the NHL when season picks up next year.

They are kind of in a position where they have a cheap backup in Stalock (32) and a primary prospect who is ready for a shot in the league in Kaapo Kahkonen (23) who has had two AHL seasons with above average numbers. They do have a secondary prospect in Mat Robson (24) where they need to get him games as a No. 1 minor league goalie and might be ready in case Kahkonen doesn't work out.

They have a younger prospect like Dereck Baribeau (21) who might be ready as a minor league starter and then depth down the line who will need nets to play in when they turn pro with Umass Filip Lindberg (21) and Peterborough Hunter Jones (19).
Agree 100% on giving Kappo a shot at #1 next season & especially on buying out Dubby. But I’m OK keeping Stalock as an experienced #2 (for another year)☝️

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bearpaw28 wrote:
Wed May 13 1:44 pm
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Wed May 13 11:19 am


Interesting look at goalies/age/cap situations in NHL. After reading this I'm more convinced the Wild should buy out Duby at age 34 and give a prospect a run in the NHL when season picks up next year.

They are kind of in a position where they have a cheap backup in Stalock (32) and a primary prospect who is ready for a shot in the league in Kaapo Kahkonen (23) who has had two AHL seasons with above average numbers. They do have a secondary prospect in Mat Robson (24) where they need to get him games as a No. 1 minor league goalie and might be ready in case Kahkonen doesn't work out.

They have a younger prospect like Dereck Baribeau (21) who might be ready as a minor league starter and then depth down the line who will need nets to play in when they turn pro with Umass Filip Lindberg (21) and Peterborough Hunter Jones (19).
Agree 100% on giving Kappo a shot at #1 next season & especially on buying out Dubby. But I’m OK keeping Stalock as an experienced #2 (for another year)☝️
I would prefer going out and getting a proven goalie on the market. And have a tandem or 60-40 type of split. Also makes sense given the fact Kappo would be a rookie.

Stalock can be an insurance policy.

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I'd take a 2.67 GAA and .910 Sv% from my backup goalie. I think having an experienced guy who knows how to be a professional backup is somewhat underrated. He's 32nd in the league for the simple advanced stat Goals Saved Above Average, I think that's about what you'd expect out of your backup... especially one with the 97th cap hit in the NHL.

The Wild don't have a lot of cap flexiblity to spend it on someone like a Robin Lehner who is getting $5M. Looking at UFA goalies there are guys like Jacob Markstom, Thomas Greiss and Cam Talbot. I'd much rather spend that kind of cap space to take advantage of teams hurting for space. If the cap number does decline, then there are teams like Toronto who are going to be in trouble.

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Post by streakygopher » Wed May 13 3:20 pm

Greyeagle wrote:
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Stalock is only 32? Seems like he's been driving me nuts for a lot longer than that.
First for wanting him on your team, then for wanting him off. :)

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I'd take a 2.67 GAA and .910 Sv% from my backup goalie. I think having an experienced guy who knows how to be a professional backup is somewhat underrated. He's 32nd in the league for the simple advanced stat Goals Saved Above Average, I think that's about what you'd expect out of your backup... especially one with the 97th cap hit in the NHL.

The Wild don't have a lot of cap flexiblity to spend it on someone like a Robin Lehner who is getting $5M. Looking at UFA goalies there are guys like Jacob Markstom, Thomas Greiss and Cam Talbot. I'd much rather spend that kind of cap space to take advantage of teams hurting for space. If the cap number does decline, then there are teams like Toronto who are going to be in trouble.
Stalock is passable as a backup to a real #1 goalie. He can't be that guy if you're trying to break in a rookie. What happens if Kahkonen falls on his face in the 1st month of being the #1?

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I'd take a 2.67 GAA and .910 Sv% from my backup goalie. I think having an experienced guy who knows how to be a professional backup is somewhat underrated. He's 32nd in the league for the simple advanced stat Goals Saved Above Average, I think that's about what you'd expect out of your backup... especially one with the 97th cap hit in the NHL.

The Wild don't have a lot of cap flexiblity to spend it on someone like a Robin Lehner who is getting $5M. Looking at UFA goalies there are guys like Jacob Markstom, Thomas Greiss and Cam Talbot. I'd much rather spend that kind of cap space to take advantage of teams hurting for space. If the cap number does decline, then there are teams like Toronto who are going to be in trouble.
That stat line is essentially his ceiling. If you had to pick over under what are your thoughts? He played really well at home this year, it would be very tough for him to duplicate that.

The guy could sink at any second especially with the style he plays. To risky to have him as a tandem with a rookie.

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J22 wrote:
Wed May 13 3:26 pm
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Wed May 13 3:09 pm
I'd take a 2.67 GAA and .910 Sv% from my backup goalie. I think having an experienced guy who knows how to be a professional backup is somewhat underrated. He's 32nd in the league for the simple advanced stat Goals Saved Above Average, I think that's about what you'd expect out of your backup... especially one with the 97th cap hit in the NHL.

The Wild don't have a lot of cap flexiblity to spend it on someone like a Robin Lehner who is getting $5M. Looking at UFA goalies there are guys like Jacob Markstom, Thomas Greiss and Cam Talbot. I'd much rather spend that kind of cap space to take advantage of teams hurting for space. If the cap number does decline, then there are teams like Toronto who are going to be in trouble.
Stalock is passable as a backup to a real #1 goalie. He can't be that guy if you're trying to break in a rookie. What happens if Kahkonen falls on his face in the 1st month of being the #1?
Then you move onto the next guy like Robson or sign a free agent or make a trade for someone. The worst mistake is to sign an older veteran to a multi-year contract for No. 1 money and have him fall on his face.

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Vegoe wrote:
Wed May 13 4:05 pm
J22 wrote:
Wed May 13 3:26 pm
Vegoe wrote:
Wed May 13 3:09 pm
I'd take a 2.67 GAA and .910 Sv% from my backup goalie. I think having an experienced guy who knows how to be a professional backup is somewhat underrated. He's 32nd in the league for the simple advanced stat Goals Saved Above Average, I think that's about what you'd expect out of your backup... especially one with the 97th cap hit in the NHL.

The Wild don't have a lot of cap flexiblity to spend it on someone like a Robin Lehner who is getting $5M. Looking at UFA goalies there are guys like Jacob Markstom, Thomas Greiss and Cam Talbot. I'd much rather spend that kind of cap space to take advantage of teams hurting for space. If the cap number does decline, then there are teams like Toronto who are going to be in trouble.
Stalock is passable as a backup to a real #1 goalie. He can't be that guy if you're trying to break in a rookie. What happens if Kahkonen falls on his face in the 1st month of being the #1?
Then you move onto the next guy like Robson or sign a free agent or make a trade for someone. The worst mistake is to sign an older veteran to a multi-year contract for No. 1 money and have him fall on his face.
Nobody said anything about paying #1 money. I'm talking about 1 or 2 year deal to someone like Crawford, Greiss, Anderson, Talbot or maybe you do like Chicago did and you talk a Lehner, Holtby, Markstrom into taking a 1 year deal to play in the best defensive system in the league to try and rebuild their value.

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Post by Bladepuller » Wed May 13 6:23 pm

Signing Stalock to a 2 year deal was, if I recall correct, was partially driven by the Seattle expansion draft. So if a free agent is signed to a 2 year deal & Kahkonen are the 2 NHL goalies only 1 would be protected.
I'm no expert on expansion drafts but I recall the Seattle situation played in to the Stalock signing but then back then Dubbie was the answer going forward.
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Signing Stalock to a 2 year deal was, if I recall correct, was partially driven by the Seattle expansion draft. So if a free agent is signed to a 2 year deal & Kahkonen are the 2 NHL goalies only 1 would be protected.
I'm no expert on expansion drafts but I recall the Seattle situation played in to the Stalock signing but then back then Dubbie was the answer going forward.
That would be a great thing. If Seattle chose the Wild “new goalie” that means we wouldn’t lose a player.

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J22 wrote:
Wed May 13 3:26 pm
Vegoe wrote:
Wed May 13 3:09 pm
I'd take a 2.67 GAA and .910 Sv% from my backup goalie. I think having an experienced guy who knows how to be a professional backup is somewhat underrated. He's 32nd in the league for the simple advanced stat Goals Saved Above Average, I think that's about what you'd expect out of your backup... especially one with the 97th cap hit in the NHL.

The Wild don't have a lot of cap flexiblity to spend it on someone like a Robin Lehner who is getting $5M. Looking at UFA goalies there are guys like Jacob Markstom, Thomas Greiss and Cam Talbot. I'd much rather spend that kind of cap space to take advantage of teams hurting for space. If the cap number does decline, then there are teams like Toronto who are going to be in trouble.
Stalock is passable as a backup to a real #1 goalie. He can't be that guy if you're trying to break in a rookie. What happens if Kahkonen falls on his face in the 1st month of being the #1?
Get some top young talent in here.

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Great article on Jonas Brodin. I saw Brodin do the Iron Cross drill in a training camp practice. Unbelievable how quick his feet are.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Orion » Sat May 23 8:25 am

Players union officially agreed to a 24 team playoff to finish this season.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Slap Shot » Sat May 23 8:45 am

Orion wrote:
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Players union officially agreed to a 24 team playoff to finish this season.
Wait, what?
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by team22tank » Sat May 23 8:54 am

Slap Shot wrote:
Sat May 23 8:45 am
Orion wrote:
Sat May 23 8:25 am
Players union officially agreed to a 24 team playoff to finish this season.
Wait, what?
It sounds like they approved the format if and when things resume. And locations still not finalized, sounds like two or four.

Top 4 teams in each conference would get a bye while the rest jockey to see who advances. And then they would have the traditional 16 team Stanley Cup Playoffs.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.c ... atform=amp

So more of an update on format and logistics versus a 100% this is a go.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Slap Shot » Sat May 23 9:07 am

Ok so a 1 year deal only?
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by team22tank » Sat May 23 9:33 am

Slap Shot wrote:
Sat May 23 9:07 am
Ok so a 1 year deal only?
Yes to put a finish on the 2019-2020 season. Idea being give all the teams that were in the mix a shot. Eliminate the ones who were not.

If it goes thru then it sounds like next season will for sure begin around December. With obviously all the teams back in the fold. Probably similar to a lockout season.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Grovetown Scotty » Sat May 23 9:42 am

team22tank wrote:
Sat May 23 9:33 am
Slap Shot wrote:
Sat May 23 9:07 am
Ok so a 1 year deal only?
Yes to put a finish on the 2019-2020 season. Idea being give all the teams that were in the mix a shot. Eliminate the ones who were not.

If it goes thru then it sounds like next season will for sure begin around December. With obviously all the teams back in the fold. Probably similar to a lockout season.
I can see a pay per view or subscription service to watch the games. Possibly season ticket holders will get access for free?

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by team22tank » Sat May 23 9:45 am

Grovetown Scotty wrote:
Sat May 23 9:42 am
team22tank wrote:
Sat May 23 9:33 am
Slap Shot wrote:
Sat May 23 9:07 am
Ok so a 1 year deal only?
Yes to put a finish on the 2019-2020 season. Idea being give all the teams that were in the mix a shot. Eliminate the ones who were not.

If it goes thru then it sounds like next season will for sure begin around December. With obviously all the teams back in the fold. Probably similar to a lockout season.
I can see a pay per view or subscription service to watch the games. Possibly season ticket holders will get access for free?
I can’t see that or anyone being interested in shelling out money.

I would bet that they would do their standard tv, NBCsports and affiliates like the playoffs.

But who knows.

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