You clearly don’t read Russo on the AthleticGoldenRube wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22 5:17 pmI'm almost afraid to ask but why is having all left handed shots a big deal? Do you expect all of them to make it to the Wild at the same time? Should the Wild have thought "well we took a lot of lefties maybe we should draft a right handed shot even though we ranked him lower"?
Or, did you like the draft but had to find something to complain about?
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It's like Matt Millen drafting wide receivers in the first round, then you fire Matt Millen and the next guy also drafts a wide receiver in the first round in his first draft.
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It looks like the Wild will resign Brad Hunt for 2 years with a Cap hit around $700k.
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Look up Kyle Quincey, Olofsson, and Mike Reilly. Then get back to me.GoldenRube wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22 5:17 pmI'm almost afraid to ask but why is having all left handed shots a big deal? Do you expect all of them to make it to the Wild at the same time? Should the Wild have thought "well we took a lot of lefties maybe we should draft a right handed shot even though we ranked him lower"?
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Fenton made a big deal of size in the draft. Probably why Caulfield was passed on. DeBrincat is the same size. Kane isn't very big either.
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Look up forwards and defensemen. Then get back to meScoobyDoo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23 10:30 amLook up Kyle Quincey, Olofsson, and Mike Reilly. Then get back to me.GoldenRube wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22 5:17 pmI'm almost afraid to ask but why is having all left handed shots a big deal? Do you expect all of them to make it to the Wild at the same time? Should the Wild have thought "well we took a lot of lefties maybe we should draft a right handed shot even though we ranked him lower"?
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Reilly and Olfsson are the exact same age as Brodin and Dumba. Pretty sure the Wild moved them because they were never going to crack the Wild top 4. And that aside neither is that good. Reilly is an "offensive d man" and isnt even a 20 pt guy when he gets PP time.J22 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23 10:47 amLook up forwards and defensemen. Then get back to meScoobyDoo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23 10:30 amLook up Kyle Quincey, Olofsson, and Mike Reilly. Then get back to me.GoldenRube wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22 5:17 pmI'm almost afraid to ask but why is having all left handed shots a big deal? Do you expect all of them to make it to the Wild at the same time? Should the Wild have thought "well we took a lot of lefties maybe we should draft a right handed shot even though we ranked him lower"?
Or, did you like the draft but had to find something to complain about?
Quincey? Oopsie poopsie on not figuring out those things before you sign him.
Like I said when people couldnt figure out why Aberg, Bittetto and Hunt were picked up last year. It had nothing to do with helping the Wild last season it was all about getting a tryout with the team and vetting them out a little more and seeing if there was a fit.
Hunt won his tryout and because of it the Wild get a very cheap player that they can feel a little more comfortable because of what they saw last year versus just signing a similar type player in the off season and it turns into disaster.
Nice to see 16 players added to the pipeline over the last two seasons and having all the rounds, except R2 last year.
The last 3 years with Fletcher, 17 picks and were missing a good chunk of the top 4 rounds during that period.
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I feel a lot better about this years draft than last years. As always, time will tell.
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They have the same issue with forwards. Right now there's no right shots and a glut of left shots. How many times have we had to have discussions around here about how players cannot break into the top 6 or the top 9 because of the glut? How many times did Coyle not have a home?J22 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23 10:47 amLook up forwards and defensemen. Then get back to meScoobyDoo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23 10:30 amLook up Kyle Quincey, Olofsson, and Mike Reilly. Then get back to me.GoldenRube wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22 5:17 pmI'm almost afraid to ask but why is having all left handed shots a big deal? Do you expect all of them to make it to the Wild at the same time? Should the Wild have thought "well we took a lot of lefties maybe we should draft a right handed shot even though we ranked him lower"?
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Yes, I'm so glad the lie about tweaking has been exposed. I hope Suter, Dubnyk, and Parise enjoy the fact that there going to spend the rest of their careers waiting for prospect development.team22tank wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23 10:57 amReilly and Olfsson are the exact same age as Brodin and Dumba. Pretty sure the Wild moved them because they were never going to crack the Wild top 4. And that aside neither is that good. Reilly is an "offensive d man" and isnt even a 20 pt guy when he gets PP time.J22 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23 10:47 amLook up forwards and defensemen. Then get back to meScoobyDoo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23 10:30 amLook up Kyle Quincey, Olofsson, and Mike Reilly. Then get back to me.GoldenRube wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22 5:17 pmI'm almost afraid to ask but why is having all left handed shots a big deal? Do you expect all of them to make it to the Wild at the same time? Should the Wild have thought "well we took a lot of lefties maybe we should draft a right handed shot even though we ranked him lower"?
Or, did you like the draft but had to find something to complain about?
Quincey? Oopsie poopsie on not figuring out those things before you sign him.
Like I said when people couldnt figure out why Aberg, Bittetto and Hunt were picked up last year. It had nothing to do with helping the Wild last season it was all about getting a tryout with the team and vetting them out a little more and seeing if there was a fit.
Hunt won his tryout and because of it the Wild get a very cheap player that they can feel a little more comfortable because of what they saw last year versus just signing a similar type player in the off season and it turns into disaster.
Nice to see 16 players added to the pipeline over the last two seasons and having all the rounds, except R2 last year.
The last 3 years with Fletcher, 17 picks and were missing a good chunk of the top 4 rounds during that period.
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Well having a 12 pick versus a 24 will do that alone and this years draft had a lot of talent, good year to pick 12 and hopefully get a very good player. 12 picks are usually going to make it in the NHL and then once they get here it's a matter of how good they can be.frozen4champs wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23 11:05 amI feel a lot better about this years draft than last years. As always, time will tell.
When you get into 20-30 range, it really becomes a crap shoot. If it was a college player you are talking 2-3 years and then good chance of another 2-3 years in minors. Not quite as exciting.
Good news about last year is two of the third rounders appear to be coming to Iowa.
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What would you have done at the 45 game mark last year, 3 way tie for 8th. Continue on as a Cap team with the core forwards going into their 28 year old season? And not much for young talent below them.
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The only issue they have at forward is that they need better forwards. Boldy is a step in the right direction. Kaprizov will be as well. Would be great to add another right shot forward or two, but it's a secondary problem and not near as important among forwards as it is among defensemen.ScoobyDoo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23 11:09 amThey have the same issue with forwards. Right now there's no right shots and a glut of left shots. How many times have we had to have discussions around here about how players cannot break into the top 6 or the top 9 because of the glut? How many times did Coyle not have a home?J22 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23 10:47 amLook up forwards and defensemen. Then get back to meScoobyDoo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23 10:30 amLook up Kyle Quincey, Olofsson, and Mike Reilly. Then get back to me.GoldenRube wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22 5:17 pmI'm almost afraid to ask but why is having all left handed shots a big deal? Do you expect all of them to make it to the Wild at the same time? Should the Wild have thought "well we took a lot of lefties maybe we should draft a right handed shot even though we ranked him lower"?
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So, Boldy is better than what they have up here already?
You don't know that. No one does.
You don't know that. No one does.
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He said it's a step in the right direction.
You are the only one that makes matter of fact comments. Like Bellows over Kunin.
Also, I am sorry Leipold lied to you, that isnt nice

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Anyone in the top 12 is a step in the right direction. Unless you go off the board like they did with last years number one pick. Or like Detroit did this year. No one was arguing that.team22tank wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23 11:29 amHe said it's a step in the right direction.
You are the only one that makes matter of fact comments. Like Bellows over Kunin.
Just once I'd like them to take a swing at a sniper. Yes. As it is no matter what the odds aren't necessarily good on any pick.
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He lied to his employees, his players, and the people that pay him lots of money. I'd worry more about them then me.
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You seem to be the only one struggling with it. Similar to the Zucker/Agent vs Fenton drama. Which ironically, the people handling it the most professionally and maturely are Zucker/Agent and Fenton.
So on behalf of Wild Land we extend an apology directly to you that Leipold lied.

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Apparently you didn't read Parise's comments after the season ended.
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Now it's time for the Wild to go into full tank mode this upcoming season. The 2020 draft is supposed to be the strongest one in a very long time. Something tells me that the Wild won't have to actually tank. That should take care of its self especially if they strike out in free agency.
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Looks like Matt Hendricks retired from the NHL and joined the Wild Front Office in player development.
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Saw an interesting tidbit. The Wild didn't have one single forward age 22-25 last season. Usually 24-25 is when a forward statistically breaks into their prime.
Now the fun part. EVERY SINGLE team in the league had a regular forward, most had multiple in that age range.
Every team in the league except 5 had a player in that age range that out produced Granlund who was the Wild's leader of the 26-27 crew, Nino, Coyle and Zucker.
There is a chance "Kahn" headed East with his side kick. Time will tell.
Now the fun part. EVERY SINGLE team in the league had a regular forward, most had multiple in that age range.
Every team in the league except 5 had a player in that age range that out produced Granlund who was the Wild's leader of the 26-27 crew, Nino, Coyle and Zucker.
There is a chance "Kahn" headed East with his side kick. Time will tell.
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With the Parise and Suter contracts it’s hard to imagine a traditional rebuild. Maybe an RFA would be the best way to bridge the lack of a prospect pool.
https://theathletic.com/1052246/2019/06 ... t-targets/
I’d part with two 1s, a 2 and a 3 for Point or Meier.
https://theathletic.com/1052246/2019/06 ... t-targets/
I’d part with two 1s, a 2 and a 3 for Point or Meier.
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The Wild don't have their 3rd. They're also not in a position yet to be going all in on one player with multiple 1st round picksVegoe wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29 11:15 amWith the Parise and Suter contracts it’s hard to imagine a traditional rebuild. Maybe an RFA would be the best way to bridge the lack of a prospect pool.
https://theathletic.com/1052246/2019/06 ... t-targets/
I’d part with two 1s, a 2 and a 3 for Point or Meier.
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Oh well... Adam Beckman better turn out then!J22 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29 12:04 pmThe Wild don't have their 3rd. They're also not in a position yet to be going all in on one player with multiple 1st round picksVegoe wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29 11:15 amWith the Parise and Suter contracts it’s hard to imagine a traditional rebuild. Maybe an RFA would be the best way to bridge the lack of a prospect pool.
https://theathletic.com/1052246/2019/06 ... t-targets/
I’d part with two 1s, a 2 and a 3 for Point or Meier.
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm
I do wonder if there is a player who they could offer sheet at $4M/year for 2nd that might make sense. Someone like Jakob Forsbacka Karlsson-BOS, JT Compher-COL or Joel Armia-MTL. Seems a better use of money and picks than some of the UFAs out there.
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I agree. When these current 5 young forwards are 25 in 3 years and if Fenton keeps drafting with this philosophy, keeping picks through all the rounds they should be able to replenish when and where they have needs.J22 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29 12:04 pmThe Wild don't have their 3rd. They're also not in a position yet to be going all in on one player with multiple 1st round picksVegoe wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29 11:15 amWith the Parise and Suter contracts it’s hard to imagine a traditional rebuild. Maybe an RFA would be the best way to bridge the lack of a prospect pool.
https://theathletic.com/1052246/2019/06 ... t-targets/
I’d part with two 1s, a 2 and a 3 for Point or Meier.
Instead of having to try to fill entire voids in the organization which he walked into.
I saw that Fletcher only hit on 3 draft picks after round 3 during his tenure here that had a season or more worth of NHL service. Haula, Kemper and I forgot the 3rd.
Nashville during the same period had 10.
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$ - https://theathletic.com/1054835/2019/06 ... to-a-head/
You could write the exact same article about Parise and Suter.
You could write the exact same article about Parise and Suter.
“Of course, in a selfish way, I wish we’d sell all of our assets and just go all out next year,” Price said Saturday during a break at a charity softball tournament in what has become his summer hometown in the Okanagan Valley.
Then he laughed.
“But I totally understand you can’t do that,” he continued, more seriously. “This is a real thing and you need to plan for the future. Obviously, I want work to be done to give us the best opportunity to win because ultimately that’s what I’m here to do. I don’t want to wait. I just don’t.”
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The Wild want to sign an old left shot forward really bad. Good plan.
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That's how free agency works. Zuccarello would be an excellent fit for the Wild.
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LOL.
No.
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Highly skilled guy, playmaker who can skate and put up 60 points.
Yes please.
Keep Granlund and reup this offseason. You get Granlund.
Trade Granlund for young Fiala and free up money. Use money in off season to get Zuccarello.
Zuccarello + Fiala > Granlund.
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team22tank wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30 11:55 amHighly skilled guy, playmaker who can skate and put up 60 points.
Yes please.
Keep Granlund and reup this offseason. You get Granlund.
Trade Granlund for young Fiala and free up money. Use money in off season to get Zuccarello.
Zuccarello + Fiala > Granlund.
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Sounds like around 5 years for $30M
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Really? He is going to be 32 and they are giving him 5 years? Huh.Butters Stotch wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30 8:35 pmSounds like around 5 years for $30M
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Good plan. Now there's 3.
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I can think of worse things than being stuck with Zucker.
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I can too. 3 guys over thirty making more than 5 million a piece on 5+ year contracts.
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That's what you are running with when all 3 blow Zucker out if the water with their production?
Zucc had 40 points in 48 games. Zucker need 82 games for the same roduction.
Anyhow I hope Zucker can assert himself and give us the 30 goal, 60 point guy for consecutive years that is what we need.
Maybe he will pull a page out of Dumba's book and play like he wants to prove he is worth double his contract. Instead of flubbing an entire year.
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Zucc played in Dallas last year. Your assumptions and cherry picking are noted.
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To be fair Dallas scored a whopping 1 more goal overall than the Wild did. They gave up 30 less which is why they finished higher than us in the standings.
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Proves how out of touch Scooby is and is just looking to make loud whiny noises.
Zucc played for the Rangers and 2 games with the Stars before breaking his arm.
Did have a nice playoff with the Stars though.
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He was a Predator so that means he's a gamebreaker.
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Sure. Getting older, slower, and smaller is always a good thing.team22tank wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01 11:37 amProves how out of touch Scooby is and is just looking to make loud whiny noises.
Zucc played for the Rangers and 2 games with the Stars before breaking his arm.
Did have a nice playoff with the Stars though.
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Loud and whiny.ScoobyDoo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01 11:38 amSure. Getting older, slower, and smaller is always a good thing.team22tank wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01 11:37 amProves how out of touch Scooby is and is just looking to make loud whiny noises.
Zucc played for the Rangers and 2 games with the Stars before breaking his arm.
Did have a nice playoff with the Stars though.
Zucc is not slow, keep going.
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What’s the story signing Dumont and Johnson? These are AHL guys......didn’t we trade a guy to Anaheim for Aberg, who they’ve let walk and are now signing guys for more money with worse numbers than the guy they gave away? I’m confused. I suppose the bottom line is none of these guys were going to make a difference but it makes a guy wonder what they are thinking.
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You just said it, none of these guys will make a difference.poisondart wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01 1:11 pmWhat’s the story signing Dumont and Johnson? These are AHL guys......didn’t we trade a guy to Anaheim for Aberg, who they’ve let walk and are now signing guys for more money with worse numbers than the guy they gave away? I’m confused. I suppose the bottom line is none of these guys were going to make a difference but it makes a guy wonder what they are thinking.
So they took a flyer on Aberg who had 11 goals, essentially giving him an in season tryout. He didnt pass, he is out. We gave away Kloos, small cost to maybe find something for a bottom 6 on the cheap. So Kloos is gone so you plug in another guy that won't ever make a difference.
They did the same thing with Hunt, he earned his deal and will stay.
These type of signings are common every year around the league, filling out your AHL team. Especially for the Wild since Fletcher and Flahr weren't big believers in the draft nor very good at it.
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Need a couple of older guys in Iowa to show some leadership to all of the rookies that will be there this year. Sounds like O'reilly wants to move on to a place that might give him a chance at the NHL.poisondart wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01 1:11 pmWhat’s the story signing Dumont and Johnson? These are AHL guys......didn’t we trade a guy to Anaheim for Aberg, who they’ve let walk and are now signing guys for more money with worse numbers than the guy they gave away? I’m confused. I suppose the bottom line is none of these guys were going to make a difference but it makes a guy wonder what they are thinking.
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right on scoobyScoobyDoo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01 11:38 amSure. Getting older, slower, and smaller is always a good thing.team22tank wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01 11:37 amProves how out of touch Scooby is and is just looking to make loud whiny noises.
Zucc played for the Rangers and 2 games with the Stars before breaking his arm.
Did have a nice playoff with the Stars though.
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WTF
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But we make up for it by being stupid.ScoobyDoo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01 11:38 amSure. Getting older, slower, and smaller is always a good thing.team22tank wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01 11:37 amProves how out of touch Scooby is and is just looking to make loud whiny noises.
Zucc played for the Rangers and 2 games with the Stars before breaking his arm.
Did have a nice playoff with the Stars though.
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Doesn't Zuccarello accrue most of his points via assist?team22tank wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01 11:27 amThat's what you are running with when all 3 blow Zucker out if the water with their production?
Zucc had 40 points in 48 games. Zucker need 82 games for the same roduction.
Anyhow I hope Zucker can assert himself and give us the 30 goal, 60 point guy for consecutive years that is what we need.
Maybe he will pull a page out of Dumba's book and play like he wants to prove he is worth double his contract. Instead of flubbing an entire year.
I don't remember the exact tally but I thought I heard he only has one season where he's scored more than like 18 goals (maybe it was 19, I was half paying attention). Either way it doesn't seem like he's exactly a guy who pours in goals left and right.
Somebody is going to need to be that guy. Zucker has shown the ability to score 20+ goals a year. Maybe he'll bounce back now that he presumably knows he's staying here at least for another year or two.
I won't profess to being a great Zuccarello mind (I know he was always a pain in the ass to play against in NHL online on Xbox
That said, I'm glad they added some talent to the team. Winters are more fun when the Wild are entertaining.
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Zuccarello is an older gritter version of Granlund. Good puck handler that can score goals but is a better playmaker.Beauner wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01 7:23 pmDoesn't Zuccarello accrue most of his points via assist?team22tank wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01 11:27 amThat's what you are running with when all 3 blow Zucker out if the water with their production?
Zucc had 40 points in 48 games. Zucker need 82 games for the same roduction.
Anyhow I hope Zucker can assert himself and give us the 30 goal, 60 point guy for consecutive years that is what we need.
Maybe he will pull a page out of Dumba's book and play like he wants to prove he is worth double his contract. Instead of flubbing an entire year.
I don't remember the exact tally but I thought I heard he only has one season where he's scored more than like 18 goals (maybe it was 19, I was half paying attention). Either way it doesn't seem like he's exactly a guy who pours in goals left and right.
Somebody is going to need to be that guy. Zucker has shown the ability to score 20+ goals a year. Maybe he'll bounce back now that he presumably knows he's staying here at least for another year or two.
I won't profess to being a great Zuccarello mind (I know he was always a pain in the ass to play against in NHL online on Xbox) but I don't know if I'm a huge fan of committing 6 million a year to a guy until he's 37. Especially a guy without who traditionally is more of a set-up guy on a team desperate for goal scorers.
That said, I'm glad they added some talent to the team. Winters are more fun when the Wild are entertaining.
Zucker decided that he didn't have to pay the price to score goals after signing his deal. Either he will start playing hard again or he will continue to be nothing more than a fast guy with zero puck skills and a 10 cent head.
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Wild just need to trade for Travis Zajac or Mika Zibanejad to put together a great line.
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To add to Beauner's goal scorer concern.J22 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01 11:23 pmZuccarello is an older gritter version of Granlund. Good puck handler that can score goals but is a better playmaker.Beauner wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01 7:23 pmDoesn't Zuccarello accrue most of his points via assist?team22tank wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01 11:27 amThat's what you are running with when all 3 blow Zucker out if the water with their production?
Zucc had 40 points in 48 games. Zucker need 82 games for the same roduction.
Anyhow I hope Zucker can assert himself and give us the 30 goal, 60 point guy for consecutive years that is what we need.
Maybe he will pull a page out of Dumba's book and play like he wants to prove he is worth double his contract. Instead of flubbing an entire year.
I don't remember the exact tally but I thought I heard he only has one season where he's scored more than like 18 goals (maybe it was 19, I was half paying attention). Either way it doesn't seem like he's exactly a guy who pours in goals left and right.
Somebody is going to need to be that guy. Zucker has shown the ability to score 20+ goals a year. Maybe he'll bounce back now that he presumably knows he's staying here at least for another year or two.
I won't profess to being a great Zuccarello mind (I know he was always a pain in the ass to play against in NHL online on Xbox) but I don't know if I'm a huge fan of committing 6 million a year to a guy until he's 37. Especially a guy without who traditionally is more of a set-up guy on a team desperate for goal scorers.
That said, I'm glad they added some talent to the team. Winters are more fun when the Wild are entertaining.
Zucker decided that he didn't have to pay the price to score goals after signing his deal. Either he will start playing hard again or he will continue to be nothing more than a fast guy with zero puck skills and a 10 cent head.
Last year we lost Granlund, Nino and Coyle. Zucc is a Granlund type of player replacement.
Nino and Coyle. I mean Ryan Flipping Hartman has scored as many goals as Coyle over the last 3 seasons.
Donato, Kunin, Fiala, Greenway, Ek will obviously need to score, the first 3 have the ability to score off of their shot. And the lineup will benefit from a playmaker.
Kaprizov a year away.
Zucc can also run a power play.
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This guy will be good for the Wild, he won't have issues getting to the rink on time in his Subaru. Maybe he'll be a good influence on Dumba.
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This was absolutely brilliant reading. It could belong in 6-8 threads on this site aloneThirty-Four wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05 11:30 amDown Goes Brown: The 20 stages of watching your team make a horrible free agency mistake.
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https://theathletic.com/1074196/2019/07 ... ontenders/
The Wild actually made the list once from 2008-2019. Once. In 2017. Which of course was the Hanzal season. I guess what's illuminating to me is here I thought the window was open much longer. It was really only one year. And now it's shut. Good to know.Here was the criteria to be labeled a Stanley Cup contender for that particular season:
Advance to the conference finals
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Check four of the six boxes in these categories:
1. Finish the regular season with 100 or more points (or the equivalent in a lockout year)
2. Finish in the top 10 in both the penalty kill and power play
3. Finish in the top five in the league in xGF%
4. Finish in the top five in the league in GF%
5. Finish in the top five in the league in SRS (a metric from hockey-reference that factors in goal differential and strength of schedule)
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This is a little different way of looking at a "Contender" I usually thought of it going into a season, mid season, ect. who are the contenders?ScoobyDoo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15 12:51 pmhttps://theathletic.com/1074196/2019/07 ... ontenders/
The Wild actually made the list once from 2008-2019. Once. In 2017. Which of course was the Hanzal season. I guess what's illuminating to me is here I thought the window was open much longer. It was really only one year. And now it's shut. Good to know.Here was the criteria to be labeled a Stanley Cup contender for that particular season:
Advance to the conference finals
OR
Check four of the six boxes in these categories:
1. Finish the regular season with 100 or more points (or the equivalent in a lockout year)
2. Finish in the top 10 in both the penalty kill and power play
3. Finish in the top five in the league in xGF%
4. Finish in the top five in the league in GF%
5. Finish in the top five in the league in SRS (a metric from hockey-reference that factors in goal differential and strength of schedule)
6. Advance to the second round of the playoffs the previous year
All these criteria are from the same year in question, except #6. I would simply call this, the best teams from that season. Especially when you can crown a "contender" at the conference finals! Seems pretty obvious.
How can a team's window be shut when using the upcoming season's data which doesn't exist yet?
Given this exercise maybe Fenton isn't so dumb after all. Selling assets when the team wasn't a "contender" the past two years. Especially considering Granlund and Coyle would be in the last year of their deals.
"He was decisive: When the team was good, he added. When it wasn’t quite good enough, he subtracted. There’s a lot to learn here."
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Maybe I'm not understanding that article correctly, but if I am, what a crock of $h!t. Tampa was the only legit cup contender going into this seasons playoffs?ScoobyDoo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15 12:51 pmhttps://theathletic.com/1074196/2019/07 ... ontenders/
The Wild actually made the list once from 2008-2019. Once. In 2017. Which of course was the Hanzal season. I guess what's illuminating to me is here I thought the window was open much longer. It was really only one year. And now it's shut. Good to know.Here was the criteria to be labeled a Stanley Cup contender for that particular season:
Advance to the conference finals
OR
Check four of the six boxes in these categories:
1. Finish the regular season with 100 or more points (or the equivalent in a lockout year)
2. Finish in the top 10 in both the penalty kill and power play
3. Finish in the top five in the league in xGF%
4. Finish in the top five in the league in GF%
5. Finish in the top five in the league in SRS (a metric from hockey-reference that factors in goal differential and strength of schedule)
6. Advance to the second round of the playoffs the previous year