Potential Future Recruits - Part II

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Potential Future Recruits - Part II

Post by Greyeagle » Fri Nov 18 9:04 am

The last serious discussion focused on Cardinal's post saying there may be a new signing soon.

Any news?
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Re: Potential Future Recruits - Part II

Post by Iceburg » Fri Nov 18 9:24 am

Greyeagle wrote:The last serious discussion focused on Cardinal's post saying there may be a new signing soon.

Any news?


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Post by NB - WB » Fri Nov 18 9:55 am

Cardinal said their is another who has commited to the Gopher's. I am thinking Cade Fairchild, Sam Gagner or Jim O'Brien. What does everyone else think?

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Cardinal made that statement just before Tony Lucia made his commitment. I don't know if thats who he refered to, but I think it was the Lucia commitment.
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Post by NB - WB » Fri Nov 18 9:57 am

I thought Cardinal said that wasn't the guy he was talking about.

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Post by Lord Viper Scorpion » Fri Nov 18 10:01 am

Iceberg,

Lol, another show-stopper. Was it the word "signing" that got you started with that?



dlw4gophers wrote:Cardinal made that statement just before Tony Lucia made his commitment. I don't know if thats who he refered to, but I think it was the Lucia commitment.


I thought it was established that Cardinal was not talking about Tony Lucia.

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Post by Iceburg » Fri Nov 18 10:10 am

Lord Viper Scorpion wrote:Iceberg,

Lol, another show-stopper. Was it the word "signing" that got you started with that?


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Post by Cardinal » Fri Nov 18 10:15 am

Correct, it wasn't Lucia.

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Post by Lord Viper Scorpion » Fri Nov 18 10:26 am

Iceberg,

Still mostly lost... are you saying we will find out the identity of said recruit at the time of the Badger series in two weeks?

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Post by mnpuckme » Fri Nov 18 10:29 am

I guessed Trent Palm in the other thread, but now I'm wondering about Andy Inderieden. Breck was scouted very heavily by the Gophs and they lost out on Fulton. Wonder if Andy peaked their interest. Though from my neck of the woods there's still a lot of talk about Sneep and Baker.

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Post by SF_Stampede_Fan » Fri Nov 18 11:28 am

Heres a article that I found on Lucia
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Re: Potential Future Recruits - Part II

Post by Kermit » Fri Nov 18 11:37 am

Greyeagle wrote:The last serious discussion focused on Cardinal's post saying there may be a new signing soon.

Any news?


The level of secrecy and intrigue about this expected upcoming commitment suggests to me that it must be a recruit of interest to rivals. Probably someone like Gagner or O'Brien. Just a wild guess.

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Post by Handyman » Fri Nov 18 11:40 am

I think I figured out who Cardinal is talking about, you guys could too if you really try :D

And no I wont post who I think it is, I would rather be wrong in secret ;)

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Post by NB - WB » Fri Nov 18 12:45 pm

I think it might be Jim O'Brien because they are going to let us know when the BADgers SUCK are in town and the BADgers SUCK are hot and heavy over O'brien.

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Post by Iceburg » Fri Nov 18 2:46 pm

I posted some stuff on John Vadnais a while back, thinking he was kind of a long shot.

Des Moines site wrote:Des Moines, Iowa – November 18, 2005 – The Des Moines Buccaneers’ head coach and general manager Regg Simon today announced that Buccaneer defenseman John Vadnais has signed a national letter of intent to play for the Bemidji State University Beavers next season.

“I chose Bemidji because I felt it was a great fit for me,” said Vadnais. “The combination of the school, the environment and the coaching staff all made it feel like it was a place where I could be successful. “

Vadnais, a native of Stillwater , MN , is currently the leading scoring defenseman for the Buccaneers and is fourth in the USHL for defensemen in scoring. He also has the third highest plus/minus rating (plus 7) for defensemen in the league. Vadnais is in his second season with the Buccaneers and third season in the USHL. He previously played for Waterloo and Lincoln before coming to Des Moines via a trade last December.

“John is a junior hockey success story,” said Simon. “He’s persevered through some tough times and has never given in. In his time with the Bucs, he’s grown and matured as a player and as a young man and we wish him nothing but the best in Bedmidji.”

Bemidji State University , located 225 miles north of Minneapolis in north-central Minnesota , was a Division II hockey powerhouse, winning thirteen national titles at that level. In 1999-00 they moved up to Division I hockey and are now members of the College Hockey America (CHA) conference. Last season they made their first trip to the NCAA Division I National Tournament, where they would lose in over-time in the first round of play to the eventual NCAA Champions Denver Pioneers.
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Post by JohnM » Fri Nov 18 5:06 pm

I think I know... I had an interesting thing happen that will not be repeated on this board. 8) However the person I spoke to at/during this event claimed to be a relative of a possible Gopher Recruit and said he was going to play at the U. 8)


I know that sounds cryptic but it is the best I can do. Certain things remain private. heh

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Post by Bucky9 » Fri Nov 18 9:25 pm

It's gotta be Ganger. Theres no way it would be this hush hush if it was just a normal prospect like O'Brien.

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Post by Davey J. » Fri Nov 18 11:25 pm

Iceburg wrote:I posted some stuff on John Vadnais a while back, thinking he was kind of a long shot.

Des Moines site wrote:Des Moines, Iowa – November 18, 2005 – The Des Moines Buccaneers’ head coach and general manager Regg Simon today announced that Buccaneer defenseman John Vadnais has signed a national letter of intent to play for the Bemidji State University Beavers next season.

“I chose Bemidji because I felt it was a great fit for me,” said Vadnais. “The combination of the school, the environment and the coaching staff all made it feel like it was a place where I could be successful. “

Vadnais, a native of Stillwater , MN , is currently the leading scoring defenseman for the Buccaneers and is fourth in the USHL for defensemen in scoring. He also has the third highest plus/minus rating (plus 7) for defensemen in the league. Vadnais is in his second season with the Buccaneers and third season in the USHL. He previously played for Waterloo and Lincoln before coming to Des Moines via a trade last December.

“John is a junior hockey success story,” said Simon. “He’s persevered through some tough times and has never given in. In his time with the Bucs, he’s grown and matured as a player and as a young man and we wish him nothing but the best in Bedmidji.”

Bemidji State University , located 225 miles north of Minneapolis in north-central Minnesota , was a Division II hockey powerhouse, winning thirteen national titles at that level. In 1999-00 they moved up to Division I hockey and are now members of the College Hockey America (CHA) conference. Last season they made their first trip to the NCAA Division I National Tournament, where they would lose in over-time in the first round of play to the eventual NCAA Champions Denver Pioneers.


Vadnais committed to Bemidji yesterday. I still think it's O'brien or Hoeffel...although I'm hoping it's Gagner!

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Post by Davey J. » Fri Nov 18 11:27 pm

OK, I'm an idiot...next time I'll actually read your post, Iceburg, before I "think" I am actually offering something worthwhile.

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Post by mwheeler » Sat Nov 19 4:31 pm

JohnM wrote:I think I know... I had an interesting thing happen that will not be repeated on this board. 8) However the person I spoke to at/during this event claimed to be a relative of a possible Gopher Recruit and said he was going to play at the U. 8)


I know that sounds cryptic but it is the best I can do. Certain things remain private. heh



Why even post that? It's a waste of time to read it, and a bigger waste of time to type it.

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Post by GopherHockeyFan » Sat Nov 19 5:00 pm

Bucky9 wrote:It's gotta be Ganger. Theres no way it would be this hush hush if it was just a normal prospect like O'Brien.


Bucky I suspect it would be kept on the down low regardless of who it is simply beacause you don't reveal information that was told to you in confidence.

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Post by GopherHockeyFan » Sat Nov 19 5:02 pm

mwheeler wrote:
JohnM wrote:I think I know... I had an interesting thing happen that will not be repeated on this board. 8) However the person I spoke to at/during this event claimed to be a relative of a possible Gopher Recruit and said he was going to play at the U. 8)


I know that sounds cryptic but it is the best I can do. Certain things remain private. heh



Why even post that? It's a waste of time to read it, and a bigger waste of time to type it.


Then why respond? I like to hear what JohnM has to say, if you don't then don't read it.

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Post by mwheeler » Sat Nov 19 5:16 pm

GopherHockeyFan wrote:
mwheeler wrote:
JohnM wrote:I think I know... I had an interesting thing happen that will not be repeated on this board. 8) However the person I spoke to at/during this event claimed to be a relative of a possible Gopher Recruit and said he was going to play at the U. 8)


I know that sounds cryptic but it is the best I can do. Certain things remain private. heh



Why even post that? It's a waste of time to read it, and a bigger waste of time to type it.


Then why respond? I like to hear what JohnM has to say, if you don't then don't read it.


I would too if he actually said something. But you're right, my response was worthless too.

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Post by JohnM » Sat Nov 19 5:22 pm

mwheeler wrote:
GopherHockeyFan wrote:
mwheeler wrote:
JohnM wrote:I think I know... I had an interesting thing happen that will not be repeated on this board. 8) However the person I spoke to at/during this event claimed to be a relative of a possible Gopher Recruit and said he was going to play at the U. 8)


I know that sounds cryptic but it is the best I can do. Certain things remain private. heh



Why even post that? It's a waste of time to read it, and a bigger waste of time to type it.


Then why respond? I like to hear what JohnM has to say, if you don't then don't read it.


I would too if he actually said something. But you're right, my response was worthless too.


Don't be an idiot. I can't exactly say what I was told because one it was a private conversation and 2 this person "claimed" to be a relative. I have no reason not to beleive it but not so much to trust it either. I made my guess earlier on one of these threads go search it out. I am not sure if it is the same person that we are waiting to hear about.

However.. Bill Murry's character in Caddy Shack's first name was Carl. although that might just be incidental also.

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Post by GopherHockeyFan » Sat Nov 19 5:50 pm

JohnM wrote:...However.. Bill Murry's character in Caddy Shack's first name was Carl. although that might just be incidental also.


:thumbup:

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Post by Bucky9 » Sat Nov 19 6:24 pm

GopherHockeyFan wrote:
JohnM wrote:...However.. Bill Murry's character in Caddy Shack's first name was Carl. although that might just be incidental also.


:thumbup:


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Post by Handyman » Sun Nov 20 4:40 pm

I may be wrong, but I dont think that player is who Cardinal is talking about...but remember I dont know I just speculate based on what I have noticed from Cardinal's posts the last month.

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I.D. of the mystery recruit

Post by MAP » Mon Nov 21 3:41 pm

Well, Cardinal, I'll take a swag (scientific wild a** guess): the mystery recruit is Cade Fairchild....What's the prize if I am right? Same as the penalty if I am wrong?
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Post by raindog » Mon Nov 21 5:37 pm

MAP wrote:Well, Cardinal, I'll take a swag (scientific wild a** guess): the mystery recruit is Cade Fairchild....What's the prize if I am right? Same as the penalty if I am wrong?


Cardinal said no to Fairchild on the 07 thread, so brace for your medicine.

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Post by Iceburg » Wed Nov 23 9:22 am

Thought I'd move some of this stuff from the "committed recruits" thread to here, where it is probably more on topic.

Star Tribune wrote:"We're still recruiting," Lucia said. "I would like to add a defenseman, maybe a walk-on, who can defend. And a [forward] who can skate, a guy who can kill penalties.

"We're looking for some older juniors, some 20-year-olds. We've got a lot of young freshmen. We need some 19- and 20-years-olds."


Pioneer Press wrote:"We're not finished," Lucia said of his team's recruiting for next season. "We want to look for another defenseman, a walk-on, maybe an older junior player, a 20-year-old who can hit and be a physical presence for us."


bigred006 wrote:Who would be some older guys that we could be looking at?


Some local USHL defensemen that are already out of high school:
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Jake Obermeyer (Chaska), Mark Bernier (South St. Paul), Greg Battani (Benilde), Garrett Raboin (Detroit Lakes), Chris Berenguer (Eden Prairie), Jake Bauer (Champlain Park), Kyle Hardwick (Warroad), Matt Case (Maple Grove), Channing Boe (Bemidji), Mike Phillippi (Hill-Murray), Justin Braun (White Bear Lake), Matt Godlewski (Elk River).

jmac wrote:2 guesses

Casey Peranteau (F)
Kyle Hardwick (D)


I don’t see either of those two as being real likely unless Casey Parenteau were to come as a walk-on. Like Bucky said, Parenteau was a big time youth player who kind of seemed to plateau a bit. He’s been around, Breck as a sophomore, Green Bay as a junior, White Bear as a senior and then playing for John Harrington last year at St. John’s. (28 games, 16 goals and 8 assists) He would come in as a sophomore. I’m not sure, but I believe that Casey is the son of former Gopher <a href=http://www.gopherhockeyhistory.com/players/playerDetail.asp?ID=745>Tom Parenteau</a>. If tDon is really looking for a small scholarship or walk-on type for a defenseman, Kyle Hardwick will probably get some better offers from someone.

mwheeler wrote:Speaking of Tony Lucia (since he played on the same team), what kind of prospect is Joey Miller, and has he commited anywhere? I had always been under the impression that he was the better player of the two.


Up until last year I think most people would say that was probably true, but Tony made a huge jump in his game between his sophomore and junior years. I think recruiters will want to see how Joey fares at the junior level probably.
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Post by Greyeagle » Wed Nov 23 9:35 am

This is interesting. I assume the "mystery" d-man the Michigan guy is referring to is Gryba - but I could be way off as I don't follow the updates/changes on that board very carefully. Anyway, has this guy been on MN's radar at all?
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Post by Iceburg » Wed Nov 23 11:20 am

Greyeagle wrote:This is interesting. I assume the "mystery" d-man the Michigan guy is referring to is Gryba - but I could be way off as I don't follow the updates/changes on that board very carefully. Anyway, has this guy been on MN's radar at all?


I've not heard anything about Gopher interest. I've heard Boston University, North Dakota and Ohio State.

Some information from the Portland Winterhawk's (WHL) site:
Eric Gryba (Pronounced GRY-buh), Hockey Age 17, (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan – 2nd Round Bantam Draft, 2003). 6’4”, 195. Posted (11-29-40) with 83 penalty minutes in 32 games playing AAA Midget with the Saskatoon Contacts. Had an outstanding training camp with Porltand last year and management was very clear he would have had a chance to earn plenty of ice time as a 16-year-old in the WHL this past season. But, his family decided to bypass the opportunity. Eric can do it all. He is big and physical and led all defensemen in scoring this year in a very good midget league. But, it appears the Gryba family has decided Eric will play tier two hockey in Nanaimo of the BCHL in 2005-06 to keep NCAA scholarship options open. The Hawks believe Eric is a potential big-time NHL prospect that Portland offers the best, most proven road to being the best NHL player possible, but unless a major shift occurs, it does not look like Gryba is in the Hawks' picture, at least for this season.


He's at Green Bay, not Nanaimo.
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Post by markwojo » Thu Nov 24 10:02 am

Anyone know anything about Aaron Bendickson from Thief River Falls, Minn who committed to UW for next year on a partial? I'm assuming as a partial kid (had full offers to UM Lowell and Miami, Oh), that he is not a top line talent but more of a bottom of the roster kid trying to work his way into a bigger role.

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:D :D :D :D :D

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What school did Nick Jaskowiak transfer to?

http://www.geocities.com/dent0110/outlo ... eason.html

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Looks like Cade is coming?

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Post by Cardinal » Thu Nov 24 1:46 pm

No, I talked to people in Duluth. :wink:

He's the guy I was elluding to. I said it wasn't him when someone guessed at it since I couldn't say 'yes or no' at the time.

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Cardinal- your last post is unclear- so are you saying yes to Fairchild or unsure about Fairchild?

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Post by Cardinal » Sat Nov 26 9:36 am

Yes, he has committed.

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Post by Iceburg » Sat Nov 26 7:38 pm

I've been out of town for the holiday and haven't checked around to see if this is common knowlidge on here yet, but I've been told by someone I trust to know that Mike Hoeffel of Hill-Murray also gave his committment late this week for 2007.
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Post by Iceburg » Sat Nov 26 11:34 pm

jmac wrote:What school did Nick Jaskowiak transfer to?

http://www.geocities.com/dent0110/outlo ... eason.html

Stroll down to Benide St. Margarets


The rumor on the high school board is Salisbury Prep in Connecticut
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Post by thedude » Sun Nov 27 12:33 am

When is David Grun going to start getting some looks. I know he has already made visits up north, and he was one of the leading scorers in the elite league. The kid is huge too. It'd be too bad if the U didnt even take him in for a visit, he is suposed to be one of the contenders for MR. Hockey.

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Post by jmac » Sun Nov 27 6:44 am

Can I get the website for the high school board?

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Post by Iceburg » Sun Nov 27 9:13 am

jmac wrote:Can I get the website for the high school board?


http://www.minnhock.com/
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Post by Cardinal » Sun Nov 27 9:59 am

Iceburg wrote:I've been out of town for the holiday and haven't checked around to see if this is common knowlidge on here yet, but I've been told by someone I trust to know that Mike Hoeffel of Hill-Murray also gave his committment late this week for 2007.


That would be a huge get. Let's hope it's true.

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Post by Davey J. » Sun Nov 27 9:36 pm

Will someone in the know please give a little scouting report of Hoeffel's game?

Thanks in advance!

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Post by Iceburg » Mon Nov 28 5:52 am

This was in the "Daily", still looking for something more concrete on Hoeffel

<b>Fairchild commits</b>

Defenseman Cade Fairchild, considered to be one of the top recruits available for the 2007-2008 season, has verbally committed to play for the Gophers, Fairchild said Sunday.

Fairchild, listed at 5-foot, 10-inches, 160 pounds, is playing for the U.S. National Under-17 team in Ann Arbor, Mich. He said he informed coach Don Lucia of his decision Wednesday. Fairchild said he was also considering Colorado College, Denver, Minnesota-Duluth and Wisconsin.

“I’m excited,” Fairchild said in a phone interview. “(Minnesota’s) kind of where I always wanted to go.”

In 17 games with the U-17 team this season, Fairchild has two goals and three assists for five points. Fairchild is a native of Duluth and played for Duluth East his first two years of high school before becoming a member of the U-17 team.

Fairchild said Lucia was pleased by his decision.

“He was very excited,” Fairchild said. “I think we’re both looking forward to it.”
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Post by Iceburg » Mon Nov 28 8:31 am

Davey J. wrote:Will someone in the know please give a little scouting report of Hoeffel's game?

Thanks in advance!


I'd say he's probably more similar to Danny Irmen then anyone else on the team right now. Nice size, strong on his skates and on the puck. Still a bit of a work in progress, you won't notice him some shifts, but he'll make a "pull you out of your seat" type play on another. Goes at it pretty hard.

Here's a couple of USHR quotes on him. This one is from the try-out camp for the NTDP U-17 team last spring:

USHR wrote:<u><b>FORWARDS</b></u>

1. <b>Mike Hoeffel</b>, 6-0/168, North Oaks, Minn., Hill-Murray HS --- Best forward in camp. A big strong power forward with soft hands. Surpassed expectations coming in. Made plays at top speed that no one else could make. A poised player who has the potential to be a top pro prospect. If he joins the program, he could be a big-time contributor.


This is from this past summer's Select 16 festival:


USHR wrote:<b><u>Select 16 Forwards</u></b>
1. Jimmy Hayes (Dorchester, MA) 6'3"/191, Late '89 right-shot center just keeps getting better. Big, strong, with a long stride. Plays hard. Can shoot it. Sees the ice. A total player. Plays for Noble & Greenough. Named to the team going to Switzerland.

2. James Van Riemsdyk (Middletown, NJ) 6'3"/180, Also keeps getting better. Has size, vision, patience with the puck. Sees the ice. His skating is better than a year ago. A big man with finesse. Going to NTDP.

<b>3. Mike Hoeffel</b> (North Oaks, MN) 6'1"/170, shoots left - Left-shot center from Hill-Murray with tremendous upside. Strong, powerful skater who can go through guys to get puck to the net, or around them. A power forward with soft hands. Named to the team going to Switzerland. A little more consistency and drive could make him a dynamic player on the level of a Kyle Okposo.


This one is from "Hockey Scouting", also from the NDTP try-out:

Hockey Scouting wrote:Mike Hoeffel was the surprise of the camp. Hoeffel is a smart, all-around forward who can play tough. The 16 year old from Minnesota proved to be one of the best 16 year old forwards in the United States on this weekend.
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Post by quick13 » Mon Nov 28 11:09 am

Confirmed with Hill Murray coaches yesterday, Hoeffel did officially give verbal committment to Gophers.

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Post by Davey J. » Mon Nov 28 12:21 pm

We sure are loading up!

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Post by NB - WB » Mon Nov 28 12:25 pm

Wow!!! Another great week for the Gophers. They get commitments from the best forwward and defenseman of their age group in the state of Minnesota. Lucia is doing a great job recruiting.

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Post by Greyeagle » Mon Nov 28 1:01 pm

Great news!

Quick question, is Guentzel's kid considered a DI prospect?
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MAP wrote:
Well, Cardinal, I'll take a swag (scientific wild a** guess): the mystery recruit is Cade Fairchild....What's the prize if I am right? Same as the penalty if I am wrong?


Cardinal said no to Fairchild on the 07 thread, so brace for your medicine.
I don't think so. :D :wink:



[/quote]Cardinal- your last post is unclear- so are you saying yes to Fairchild or unsure about Fairchild

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Yes, he has committed.

Sometimes swags (scientific wild a** guesses work. I like the way the 2007-8 team is shaping up. Any word on the 2111-2112 team?[/quote]
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NB - WB wrote:Wow!!! Another great week for the Gophers. They get commitments from the best forwward and defenseman of their age group in the state of Minnesota. Lucia is doing a great job recruiting.


He could go on vacation and get most of his MN targets. That's one of the benefits of coaching the UofM. That's not to say he's not a good recruiter because obviously he's a great recruiter. But I think it's more impressive when he goes out and gets a Chucko, a Vanek or a Kessel than than a couple of in-state high school guys.

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Post by Iceburg » Mon Nov 28 6:41 pm

MAP wrote:Any word on the 2111-2112 team?


Should be just about right for Nick Bjugstad :wink: :D
(assuming you meant 2011-2012) :wink:
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<font color=black><b><font size=5>Hoeffel verbally commits to Gophers</font></b>
<font size=1>By Chris Lempesis</font>

Mike Hoeffel, considered one of the top recruits available for the 2007-08 season, has verbally committed to play for Minnesota’s men’s hockey team, Hoeffel said Monday.
Hoeffel is a 6-2, 180 lbs. forward currently playing for Hill-Murray School in Maplewood, Minn. He is in his junior year.

Hoeffel — who originally hails from North Oaks, Minn. — said he called coach Don Lucia Friday to inform him of his decision.

While he said he was also considering North Dakota, Wisconsin and Minnesota-Duluth, Hoeffel said he felt “really comfortable” when he visited Minnesota.

“It was just where my heart was and I always wanted to be a Gopher,” he said. “Everybody dreams of being a Gopher. It was just the right thing for me.”</font>
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Re: From the "Minnesota Daily"

Post by max27t » Mon Nov 28 8:50 pm

Iceburg wrote: Mike Hoeffel, 6-0/168, North Oaks, Minn

Iceburg wrote: 3. Mike Hoeffel (North Oaks, MN) 6'1"/170

Iceburg wrote: Hoeffel is a 6-2, 180 lbs. forward


The way he's growing, in another couple days John Scott will be looking up at him. :wink:

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Post by holmes » Mon Nov 28 11:17 pm

Given that we are going to have some early departures in the next two years, does anyone know who we have on our recruiting short-list?

I would think Gagner, O'Brien, and Grun are in the mix. Who else might be targeted?

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Post by Master_Shake » Tue Nov 29 1:26 am

Anyone in the know, what are the chances if any of landing Patrick Kane, I think he is a 2007 commit. Has he been talked about or any rumors about where he might end up?

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Post by Bucky9 » Tue Nov 29 6:08 am

Master_Shake wrote:Anyone in the know, what are the chances if any of landing Patrick Kane, I think he is a 2007 commit. Has he been talked about or any rumors about where he might end up?


Slim to none. Hes a Michigan/BU guy.

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Post by streakygopher » Tue Nov 29 9:40 am

I saw David Fischer play last Saturday. Anybody who doubts his ability (ahem...Bucky), doesn't know the game. Compared to Jack Hillen (AHA now with CC) Fischer is bigger, stronger, moves the puck as well or better, plays his defensive position better and is more aggressive on loose pucks. He can also skate circles around the other team, seemingly at will.

Lucia says that skillwise the kid is ready for the WCHA...however, he wants his playing weight at around 190...it's now 175. Depending on defensive needs, this means that David may spend a year in the USHL. It's wait and see at this point.

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streakygopher wrote:I saw David Fischer play last Saturday. Anybody who doubts his ability (ahem...Bucky), doesn't know the game. Compared to Jack Hillen (AHA now with CC) Fischer is bigger, stronger, moves the puck as well or better, plays his defensive position better and is more aggressive on loose pucks. He can also skate circles around the other team, seemingly at will.

Lucia says that skillwise the kid is ready for the WCHA...however, he wants his playing weight at around 190...it's now 175. Depending on defensive needs, this means that David may spend a year in the USHL. It's wait and see at this point.


Because I dont think that David Fischer is a Minnesota quality type player means that I dont know the game?

You guys keep telling yourself how good of a recruit he is. But i'm happy he is playing for you guys instead of us. I think we'll do just fine with McBain and Williams.

Just watch Fischer play...he doenst even hold onto his stick right. He just doesnt look good out there. Goooood Luck.

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Post by streakygopher » Tue Nov 29 12:19 pm

I'll trust Lucia over you, Buck.

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Post by Bucky9 » Tue Nov 29 12:20 pm

He plays high school hockey. Of course hes going to look good. But the kid is not a high end player like you guys seem to think.

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Post by streakygopher » Tue Nov 29 12:34 pm

He plays high school hockey in Minnesota. I've seen the Broten's, Hankinson's, Paul Martin, Jordan Leopold, Johnny Pohl, Rasmussen, and countless others of all talent levels play Minnesota high school hockey. This kid belongs. I would say right now he has more ability than a guy like Vanelli...he sees the ice better, is a better skater and probably a better defender. Time will tell.

You don't have a chance to watch kids like this come up in Wisconsin. We see it all the time here in Minnesota. Fischer dominates at this level MORE THAN Jack Hillen did a couple years ago for Holy Angels.

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streakygopher wrote:He plays high school hockey in Minnesota. I've seen the Broten's, Hankinson's, Paul Martin, Jordan Leopold, Johnny Pohl, Rasmussen, and countless others of all talent levels play Minnesota high school hockey. This kid belongs. I would say right now he has more ability than a guy like Vanelli...he sees the ice better, is a better skater and probably a better defender. Time will tell.

You don't have a chance to watch kids like this come up in Wisconsin. We see it all the time here in Minnesota. Fischer dominates at this level MORE THAN Jack Hillen did a couple years ago for Holy Angels.


I cannot even believe you brought up David freaking Fischers name with the Brotens, Hankinsons, Pauly Martin, Leopold, Rasmussen, and Pohl's. Are you kidding me? Fischer will never be able to carry their jocks. By the way...I've seen plenty of good players that are much better then David Fischer come through Wisconsin hs Hockey. Hell I had 3 in my conference that are on the BADgers SUCK right now. Not to mention playing against guys like Skille.

Minnesota is not hand over fist better than Wisconsin like you think. Do you have to be reminded that 2 out of the top 3 recruits from last season to enter the NCAA ranks were from Wisconsin?

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Bucky9 wrote:
streakygopher wrote:I saw David Fischer play last Saturday. Anybody who doubts his ability (ahem...Bucky), doesn't know the game. Compared to Jack Hillen (AHA now with CC) Fischer is bigger, stronger, moves the puck as well or better, plays his defensive position better and is more aggressive on loose pucks. He can also skate circles around the other team, seemingly at will.

Lucia says that skillwise the kid is ready for the WCHA...however, he wants his playing weight at around 190...it's now 175. Depending on defensive needs, this means that David may spend a year in the USHL. It's wait and see at this point.


Because I dont think that David Fischer is a Minnesota quality type player means that I dont know the game?

You guys keep telling yourself how good of a recruit he is. But i'm happy he is playing for you guys instead of us. I think we'll do just fine with McBain and Williams.

Just watch Fischer play...he doenst even hold onto his stick right. He just doesnt look good out there. Goooood Luck.

Bucky's right. The guy can skate, has good vision, and good hands. However, he has a major flaw in how he grips his stick................
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Post by Danny » Tue Nov 29 12:56 pm

http://insidecollegehockey.com/7Archive ... l_0222.htm

Something worth reading, since Wisconsin is right around the same level as Minnesota when it comes to Hockey. A whole 25 players in D1 compared to Minnesota's 208.

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Post by streakygopher » Tue Nov 29 12:57 pm

Bucky9 wrote:
streakygopher wrote:He plays high school hockey in Minnesota. I've seen the Broten's, Hankinson's, Paul Martin, Jordan Leopold, Johnny Pohl, Rasmussen, and countless others of all talent levels play Minnesota high school hockey. This kid belongs. I would say right now he has more ability than a guy like Vanelli...he sees the ice better, is a better skater and probably a better defender. Time will tell.

You don't have a chance to watch kids like this come up in Wisconsin. We see it all the time here in Minnesota. Fischer dominates at this level MORE THAN Jack Hillen did a couple years ago for Holy Angels.


I cannot even believe you brought up David freaking Fischers name with the Brotens, Hankinsons, Pauly Martin, Leopold, Rasmussen, and Pohl's. Are you kidding me? Fischer will never be able to carry their jocks. By the way...I've seen plenty of good players that are much better then David Fischer come through Wisconsin hs Hockey. Hell I had 3 in my conference that are on the BADgers SUCK right now. Not to mention playing against guys like Skille.

Minnesota is not hand over fist better than Wisconsin like you think. Do you have to be reminded that 2 out of the top 3 recruits from last season to enter the NCAA ranks were from Wisconsin?


Settle down, Bucky. In terms of depth Minnesota absolutely is "hand-over-fist" better than Wisconsin in high school hockey...only a fool would argue to the contrary. So what if 2 of the top 3 recruits came from Wisconsin...what's your point? I'm not arguing that no good players come from Wisconsin....

By bringing up names such as Broten etc. doesn't imply that I'm comparing Fischer to them, does it? That was an infantile inference. I'm only suggesting that I've seen plenty of high school kids play against other high school kids and then go on to play college hockey. In fact, if you bother to read the post the only salient comparison I made was to a recent high school defenseman, Jack Hillen, who is now having a very successful college career at CC. I think Fischer is better.

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Post by NB - WB » Tue Nov 29 1:10 pm

Bucky 9

Do you forget about Blake Wheeler. You may want to consider him one of the top three recruits from last year. Wayne Gretzky sure thinks highly of him and last time I checked Wayne Gretzky was the best hockey player in the history of the sport.

You are one person and your opinion is fine, but their are plenty of people that rank David Fischer as a dominant player. People that scout hockey talent for a living. Don Lucia and Mike Eaves both think this kid can play for their programs because both have offered him scholorships. So you are a 19 year old that has his opinion and many others that do this for a living have another. I think I am going to believe the guys who do this for a living and two years from know you probably won't be around to allow everyone the chance to bring up how you felt about him and how wrong you were. So I won't even go there. But don't forget to look at Don Lucia's record for defensemen.

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Danny wrote:http://insidecollegehockey.com/7Archives/Features/statesall_0222.htm

Something worth reading, since Wisconsin is right around the same level as Minnesota when it comes to Hockey. A whole 25 players in D1 compared to Minnesota's 208.


Well about 15 of those are on UW...and i'd say they are doing pretty well.

streakygopher wrote:
Settle down, Bucky. In terms of depth Minnesota absolutely is "hand-over-fist" better than Wisconsin in high school hockey...only a fool would argue to the contrary. So what if 2 of the top 3 recruits came from Wisconsin...what's your point? I'm not arguing that no good players come from Wisconsin....

By bringing up names such as Broten etc. doesn't imply that I'm comparing Fischer to them, does it? That was an infantile inference. I'm only suggesting that I've seen plenty of high school kids play against other high school kids and then go on to play college hockey. In fact, if you bother to read the post the only salient comparison I made was to a recent high school defenseman, Jack Hillen, who is now having a very successful college career at CC. I think Fischer is better.


You are right, depth wise they dont compare. But the top 10 teams in Wisconsin (who play each other a lot) can definitly compete with Minnesota teams. Superior is down this year and lost like 6-3 to Breck the other day.


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Do you forget about Blake Wheeler. You may want to consider him one of the top three recruits from last year. Wayne Gretzky sure thinks highly of him and last time I checked Wayne Gretzky was the best hockey player in the history of the sport.


No I didnt forget about Blake Wheeler...He is not better than Kessel, Skille, or Jack Johnson

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Post by Lord Viper Scorpion » Tue Nov 29 1:37 pm

Bucky9 wrote:You are right, depth wise they dont compare. But the top 10 teams in Wisconsin (who play each other a lot) can definitly compete with Minnesota teams. Superior is down this year and lost like 6-3 to Breck the other day.


Breck is a Class A team, certainly not a top 10 power overall most years. They were great a few years ago when they were stacked with guys like the following...

Bucky9 wrote:No I didnt forget about Blake Wheeler...He is not better than Kessel, Skille, or Jack Johnson


I disagree regarding Skille v. Wheeler. Skille may be the better college player, but Wheeler may be the better pro.

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By the way, I have no idea why you are sticking so close to your guns regarding Fischer. The fact is you have seen him play only once. We all know what you felt about that viewing... can't you just admit that it may have been an off day for him? For the sake of argument, I'll admit that it may not have been, but how could you know?

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Lord Viper Scorpion wrote:
Bucky9 wrote:You are right, depth wise they dont compare. But the top 10 teams in Wisconsin (who play each other a lot) can definitly compete with Minnesota teams. Superior is down this year and lost like 6-3 to Breck the other day.


Breck is a Class A team, certainly not a top 10 power overall most years. They were great a few years ago when they were stacked with guys like the following...

Bucky9 wrote:No I didnt forget about Blake Wheeler...He is not better than Kessel, Skille, or Jack Johnson


I disagree regarding Skille v. Wheeler. Skille may be the better college player, but Wheeler may be the better pro.

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By the way, I have no idea why you are sticking so close to your guns regarding Fischer. The fact is you have seen him play only once. We all know what you felt about that viewing... can't you just admit that it may have been an off day for him? For the sake of argument, I'll admit that it may not have been, but how could you know?


Who said that was the only time i've ever seen him? Thats the only time i've ever commented on a game specificly.

As for Wheeler v. Skille...the argument was over the top 3 NCAA recruits. I dont care who is a better pro right now. Because Wheeler and Skille will be better pro's than Kessel but thats a different topic.

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