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Post by Gopherguy05 » Mon Oct 04 11:28 am

It would have been even better if it came in a game where for the the rest of the 59:50 they didn't play like crap.

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Post by MATT » Wed Oct 06 12:20 am

gopherguy06 wrote:
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The players at this level play around with that move all the time, but it's pretty ovariansy of her to try that in a game.
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Post by Lancaster » Sat Oct 09 5:17 pm

Unbelievably pathetic three on three by the Gophers.

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Post by Lancaster » Sat Oct 09 5:29 pm

Abigail Boreen...OMG. I've talked about her before.

Somehow she has worked her way to the first line, and our first line actually looks pretty good. Her hands-in the sense of catching a pass and getting a shot off-she has no business being on the first line. But somehow or another, she has made it impossible for the coaches to resist her. She has totally earned her way up the line chart.

And on the other hand her hands-she is probably the best player on the team at winning one on one battles. Remembering her play as a freshman, I am amazed at her improvement and the contrast between her performance and so many of the other Gopher players.

Very few feel good stories for GWH the last few years, but Abigail is. How is it that she has gotten so much better every year?

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Post by D2D » Sat Oct 09 8:28 pm

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Abigail Boreen...OMG. I've talked about her before.....

Very few feel good stories for GWH the last few years, but Abigail is. How is it that she has gotten so much better every year?
My guess is she dedicated herself to be the very best player she could be, and worked her butt off to get there.
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Post by Arlan Marttila » Mon Oct 11 2:09 pm

Even as a rookie, Boreen was able to make big plays in big moments. She strikes me as somebody who doesn't like to lose, and is therefore willing to work/try very hard. I wish that she could pass that on to some of her (supposedly) more talented teammates.

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Post by Five-HoleFrenzy » Tue Oct 12 8:35 am

Lancaster wrote:
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Abigail Boreen...OMG. I've talked about her before.

Somehow she has worked her way to the first line, and our first line actually looks pretty good. Her hands-in the sense of catching a pass and getting a shot off-she has no business being on the first line. But somehow or another, she has made it impossible for the coaches to resist her. She has totally earned her way up the line chart.

And on the other hand her hands-she is probably the best player on the team at winning one on one battles. Remembering her play as a freshman, I am amazed at her improvement and the contrast between her performance and so many of the other Gopher players.

Very few feel good stories for GWH the last few years, but Abigail is. How is it that she has gotten so much better every year?
That is a good description of Boreen. Like you said, she doesn't have the talent to be on the first line but...She is good in the faceoff circle. Gives her best effort and wins more than her share of battles for the puck. She also can pass the puck better than many of her teammates. Her development from a freshman to now is soemthing that, as ARM mentioned, hasn't been the case for quite a few of her teammates.

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Post by Lancaster » Fri Oct 22 1:11 pm

Did anyone see either of the penalties, did they look real?

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Post by Lancaster » Fri Oct 22 1:16 pm

I saw the Colgate penalty, I miss the WCHA refs.

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Post by Lancaster » Fri Oct 22 1:25 pm

This game reminds me of a a Robert Morris game a couple years ago. If someone gets touched it’s a penalty.

Totally unworthy of #3 vs #4 and borderline unwatchable.

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Post by D2D » Fri Oct 22 1:50 pm

Lancaster wrote:
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This game reminds me of a a Robert Morris game a couple years ago. If someone gets touched it’s a penalty.

Totally unworthy of #3 vs #4 and borderline unwatchable.
Apparently the Gopher coaches forgot to warn their team that Eastern referees call even the slightest physical contact a penalty. :roll: Gophers need to adjust, especially when they are already down a player.
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Post by Lancaster » Fri Oct 22 3:14 pm

Gophers beat 8-0 (#3) Colgate 5-3.
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Post by D2D » Fri Oct 22 3:15 pm

Would love to see Heise's goal made available.
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Would love to see Heise's goal made available.
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Post by D2D » Fri Oct 22 10:53 pm

Who says the backhand is a lost art?
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Post by D2D » Sat Oct 23 3:23 pm

Congrats to the lady Gophers who win another nailbiter, this time by 3-2.
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Post by Iceburg » Tue Oct 26 6:49 pm

Frosty signs a three year extension.

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Post by Lancaster » Fri Oct 29 3:21 pm

lol….1st shot of the game, I think. We’ve heard that song before.

Josey Dunne fell, left open a 2 on 1……sigh. God damn it!

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Post by Lancaster » Fri Oct 29 3:30 pm

Gophers do look pretty good, up 3-1 after one vs Bemidji.
But we’re also trying to break some of those old patterns :ahhh:

btw, Kelly Schultz, that announcer for Bemidji Women’s’ Hockey does a pretty nice job for them.

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Post by D2D » Fri Oct 29 5:13 pm

Final was 5-2. Gophers put up 57 shots on goal while allowing 23.
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Post by Lancaster » Sat Oct 30 2:12 pm

I think Emily Oden is one of our enforcers :shock:

The difference in refs this series vs Colgate is gigantic.

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Post by D2D » Sat Oct 30 2:46 pm

Lancaster wrote:
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I think Emily Oden is one of our enforcers :shock:

The difference in refs this series vs Colgate is gigantic.
I can't believe they didn't call the Beaver who crosschecked our player in the front of their net well after the ref blew his whistle. :chainsaw:
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Post by Lancaster » Sat Oct 30 4:11 pm

Anyone know why Borden did not play at the end of the game?

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Post by D2D » Sat Oct 30 8:28 pm

Assume you mean Abigail Boreen? I missed the 3rd period as I went to see the men play. Maybe someone else can chime in.
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Post by outofstateoutofmind » Sat Oct 30 9:55 pm

Shearen is no longer listed on the roster.

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Post by Lancaster » Sun Oct 31 2:07 am

D2D wrote:
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Assume you mean Abigail Boreen? I missed the 3rd period as I went to see the men play. Maybe someone else can chime in.
I did mean Boreen. That dang auto correct :lol:

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Post by D2D » Sun Oct 31 10:27 am

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Shearen is no longer listed on the roster.
Not enough icetime maybe?
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Post by Lancaster » Sun Oct 31 5:41 pm

D2D wrote:
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Assume you mean Abigail Boreen? I missed the 3rd period as I went to see the men play. Maybe someone else can chime in.
Doesn’t seem right that she would have been benched, seems more likely it was an injury or something.

I hope she’s OK and back right away next game.

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Lancaster wrote:
Sun Oct 31 5:41 pm
D2D wrote:
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Assume you mean Abigail Boreen? I missed the 3rd period as I went to see the men play. Maybe someone else can chime in.
Doesn’t seem right that she would have been benched, seems more likely it was an injury or something.

I hope she’s OK and back right away next game.
If it was an injury that caused her to be removed from the roster it would have to pretty serious, quite possibly one that was going to cause her to miss the rest of the season. Whatever it was I'm sure all Gopher fans wish her the best.
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Various forms of this are floating around the Twitterverse today

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Okay I see your gap. And what is the revenue gap?
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Bonin21 wrote:
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Okay I see your gap. And what is the revenue gap?
The same thought had crossed my mind.
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Post by Maize » Thu Nov 04 3:08 pm

If you're spending 17.5 times more on marketing on one event over the other, I'd certainly hope it produces more revenue.

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Post by Bonin21 » Thu Nov 04 3:11 pm

Maize wrote:
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If you're spending 17.5 times more on marketing on one event over the other, I'd certainly hope it produces more revenue.
Still need to know numbers. Revenue and profit. When you have more profit you can test out more marketing.
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Post by Five-HoleFrenzy » Fri Nov 05 9:27 am

From just the Minnesota's Athletic Dept perspective ...Taken from financial report for 2019.

Men's hockey total revenue 5,613,408
Men's hockey total expenses 5,324,406
Profit = 289,002
Women's hockey total revenue 357,235
Women's hockey total expenses 2,785,243
Loss =2,428,008

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Post by Norm » Fri Nov 05 11:18 am

Five-HoleFrenzy wrote:
Fri Nov 05 9:27 am
From just the Minnesota's Athletic Dept perspective ...Taken from financial report for 2019.

Men's hockey total revenue 5,613,408
Men's hockey total expenses 5,324,406
Profit = 289,002
Women's hockey total revenue 357,235
Women's hockey total expenses 2,785,243
Loss =2,428,008
Why don't the women quadruple their ticket prices? :lol:

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Post by Bonin21 » Fri Nov 05 11:29 am

Five-HoleFrenzy wrote:
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From just the Minnesota's Athletic Dept perspective ...Taken from financial report for 2019.
As far as I can tell, "Close the Gap" is directed at the NCAA. So looking to know NCAA Tournament revenue.
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Post by Five-HoleFrenzy » Fri Nov 05 11:43 am

Bonin21 wrote:
Fri Nov 05 11:29 am
Five-HoleFrenzy wrote:
Fri Nov 05 9:27 am
From just the Minnesota's Athletic Dept perspective ...Taken from financial report for 2019.
As far as I can tell, "Close the Gap" is directed at the NCAA. So looking to know NCAA Tournament revenue.
Ok, I can hopefully help you there...

Taken from https://kaplanhecker.app.box.com/s/y17p ... yye6zx8tmz

2019 NCAA ice hockey tournament revenue for the men's and women's tournament.

Men's 5.84 million
Womens 154,189

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Post by Bonin21 » Fri Nov 05 11:49 am

Well there you go.
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Post by Five-HoleFrenzy » Fri Nov 05 11:52 am

Yeah...By my simple math, The men had roughly 38 times more revenue that the women.

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Post by outofstateoutofmind » Sun Nov 07 6:56 pm

Shearen to the Purple Cows.


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Post by streakygopher » Mon Nov 08 12:24 am

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Thu Nov 04 2:34 pm
Various forms of this are floating around the Twitterverse today

Certain people want desperately for this to be a "gender equity" issue. It's not. It's a fan interest issue.

Fans express their interests and preferences discretely by buying tickets for the teams they want to see play. (The Gophers men's hockey team is on the wrong end of this stick here versus the MN Wild.) Women's sports don't generate enough interest at the same ticket prices as men's sports. The legal system can enforce equity by the numbers, but it can't change the minds of fans.

Men aren't to blame for the lack of interest in women's sports. If female fans attended women's sporting events like male fans attend men's events, there would be no "gap."

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Post by SkiUMahLaw » Mon Nov 08 10:59 am

streakygopher wrote:
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Iceburg wrote:
Thu Nov 04 2:34 pm
Various forms of this are floating around the Twitterverse today

Certain people want desperately for this to be a "gender equity" issue. It's not. It's a fan interest issue.

Fans express their interests and preferences discretely by buying tickets for the teams they want to see play. (The Gophers men's hockey team is on the wrong end of this stick here versus the MN Wild.) Women's sports don't generate enough interest at the same ticket prices as men's sports. The legal system can enforce equity by the numbers, but it can't change the minds of fans.

Men aren't to blame for the lack of interest in women's sports. If female fans attended women's sporting events like male fans attend men's events, there would be no "gap."
It's a bit more complicated than that. Title IX does play a role here.

The NCAA does not get Federal funding directly, so it isn't subject to it; however, participating universities do receive Federal funding and thus have some responsibility to see an equivalent opportunity is provided for female athletes. If the university isn't pushing to participate in an equivalent opportunity, it could be liable as a Title IX violation.

Note that equivalent does not mean equal-- so there will not be equal amounts spent on each. But the advocacy here is to spend more on women's hockey than they are currently spending. That is a good thing for everyone.

But nobody is ignorant-- there is a bit of zero-sum going on here, as that money to be spent comes from somewhere. In the NCAA, the bulk comes from the basketball tournament, so spending money on women's hockey means less take-home given back to NCAA schools/conferences directly. That trickles down.

What they are really after is expanding the playoffs to 12 teams. While that will cost something, it may make the women's championship cost around $1M total. The reason it is a problem is that the NCAA standards for championships have a certain ratio that the men already get an exemption to allow 16 teams. The women are asking for a ratio even above that.

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Post by Slap Shot » Mon Nov 08 11:37 am

I'd like to see the argument laid out that there is less opportunity available. More $$ spent doesn't necessarily translate imho into "opportunity" - albeit yes the men get to play for instance in 3M while the women play in Ridder. Both programs have x # of scholarships, both have high quality training facilities, both have as much opportunity as anywhere else to put together a competitive team and compete for titles. We are seeing female athletes under new rules being offered contracts to earn endorsement income. The women are less often on broadcast TV but that's the market working as intended. Obviously the NHL is a bigger "opportunity" post college than anything available to the women, but that's not the responsibility of neither the NCAA nor the university to solve.

I realize I am simplifying the topic with the above examples and I am all in favor of Title IX etc. But I do think quantifying an 'opportunity' disparity relative to allocated expenses is not so easily done. I might be missing something very obvious so...
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Post by Steve MN » Mon Nov 08 12:58 pm

SkiUMahLaw wrote:
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But nobody is ignorant-- there is a bit of zero-sum going on here, as that money to be spent comes from somewhere. In the NCAA, the bulk comes from the basketball tournament, so spending money on women's hockey means less take-home given back to NCAA schools/conferences directly. That trickles down.

What they are really after is expanding the playoffs to 12 teams. While that will cost something, it may make the women's championship cost around $1M total. The reason it is a problem is that the NCAA standards for championships have a certain ratio that the men already get an exemption to allow 16 teams. The women are asking for a ratio even above that.
Also remember that at the time the Men's tournament got the exemption to move from 12 to 16 teams, the Frozen 4 was completely selling out and regionals were bringing in more people as well. That meant there was certainly the money coming in (particularly the Frozen 4) to justify it financially.
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Post by MATT » Mon Nov 08 10:55 pm

Slap Shot wrote:
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I'd like to see the argument laid out that there is less opportunity available.
There’s a 19.5% opportunity for women to make the NCAAs (8 out of 41 teams) compared to the men’s 26.7% opportunity.
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What they are really after is expanding the playoffs to 12 teams. While that will cost something, it may make the women's championship cost around $1M total. The reason it is a problem is that the NCAA standards for championships have a certain ratio that the men already get an exemption to allow 16 teams. The women are asking for a ratio even above that.
What is the non-exemption / allowed ratio? 12 is 29.2%; 10 would be 24.4% - closer but not exceeding the men’s.

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Post by Slap Shot » Tue Nov 09 1:03 am

MATT wrote:
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Slap Shot wrote:
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I'd like to see the argument laid out that there is less opportunity available.
There’s a 19.5% opportunity for women to make the NCAAs (8 out of 41 teams) compared to the men’s 26.7% opportunity.
In that one regard then ok, but I'm sorry overall I'm not seeing a once per year tournament as representing their opportunity on the whole is restrictive.
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Post by Lancaster » Tue Nov 09 7:04 am

Love the impressive turnout for the discussion on women's hockey all of a sudden..lol

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Post by SkiUMahLaw » Tue Nov 09 8:03 am

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Love the impressive turnout for the discussion on women's hockey all of a sudden..lol
Nothing gets everyone fired up like a Title IX discussion!

@SlapShot, Title IX requires an equivalent opportunity (as I mentioned) for participation, and access to championships is a pretty important component to a season-- I mean, we hang a banner for it, right? If the men's tournament had 16 teams and the women's had 4 teams (which was the case at one time), would you say that the 5th place women's team has an equivalent opportunity to compete as compared to their male counterparts?

Note that access to championships alone is not the test, but it is one of a laundry list of factors in a Title IX analysis. So perhaps there are other factors tilting in favor of women's hockey that we aren't speaking about here. But mere revenues alone is not one of them, and "because the women's sport costs too much for the revenues it brings in" is not a defense to a Title IX action.

I can't seem to easily find the NCAA D-1 ratio on access to championships, but for D-3 the tournament size should be 1 out of every 6.5 teams, which is approximately 15%. Quick math of the Bouncyball tournament is 68/353 = approximately 19%. So my guess is the women are already in the correct NCAA range for tournament size.

One note-- there doesn't seem to be much variation in the women's tournament field from year-to-year. A larger tournament may help the sport significantly by boosting, say, a SCSU or Mankato program that otherwise has no practical chance of beating out UW, UMN, or UMD to make the field.

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Re: Women's hockey

Post by Lancaster » Tue Nov 09 5:06 pm

Kent Hrbek and Krissy W-P drop the puck for the HOF game vs St Cloud on Nov 20.

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Re: Women's hockey

Post by gopheritall » Tue Nov 09 7:45 pm

If I follow the logic correctly NCAA men's hockey should be shut down with the exception of about 5 teams and there should be no tournament because it doesn't make as much as football or basketball.

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Re: Women's hockey

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Re: Women's hockey

Post by Slap Shot » Wed Nov 10 10:56 pm

So 5 teams get a bye?
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Re: Women's hockey

Post by Orion » Thu Nov 11 5:55 am

Slap Shot wrote:
Wed Nov 10 10:56 pm
So 5 teams get a bye?
That does seem odd. Why not make it an even 12 to balance the bracket?

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Post by Lancaster » Thu Nov 11 9:11 am

The women achieved parity with the men!!!!! Whoop-de-do!!!!

27% of the teams go to the tourney. The men and women's tournament size will have to be adjusted year by year if any schools add or drop hockey in order to maintain parody.

I think the NCAA was being sarcastic when they made this decision :lol:

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Post by Gopherguy05 » Thu Nov 11 11:39 am

It will probably be set up as:
# 1 hosts and plays 8/9 winner
#2 hosts and plays 7/10 winner
#3 hosts and plays 6/11 winner
#4 hosts #5

Then the Frozen Four as normal.

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Re: Women's hockey

Post by Lancaster » Fri Nov 12 5:42 pm

Emily Brown is a scratch tonite.

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Post by D2D » Fri Nov 12 10:07 pm

Lancaster wrote:
Fri Nov 12 5:42 pm
Emily Brown is a scratch tonite.
Tomorrow?
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Post by Gopherguy05 » Fri Nov 12 10:44 pm

They don't need her vs RIT. Give her the weekend off.

Sit as many people as possible tomorrow.

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Re: Women's hockey

Post by sec 16 row16 seat 16 17 » Sat Nov 13 3:59 pm

did taylor wente graduate

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Re: Women's hockey

Post by Lancaster » Sat Nov 13 4:03 pm

sec 16 row16 seat 16 17 wrote:
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did taylor wente graduate
Yes

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Post by Lancaster » Sat Nov 13 4:05 pm

Very strange line sheet today. Only 18 skaters, with Emily Brown listed as 7th D. Only 11 forwards, with Conner and Jungels on 4th line.

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Post by D2D » Sat Nov 13 8:57 pm

Lancaster wrote:
Sat Nov 13 4:05 pm
Very strange line sheet today. Only 18 skaters, with Emily Brown listed as 7th D. Only 11 forwards, with Conner and Jungels on 4th line.
What's up with Brown? On the line sheet I picked up Friday she was shown as a scratch, then today as the 7th D?
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Re: Women's hockey

Post by Five-HoleFrenzy » Sat Nov 13 9:41 pm

D2D wrote:
Sat Nov 13 8:57 pm
Lancaster wrote:
Sat Nov 13 4:05 pm
Very strange line sheet today. Only 18 skaters, with Emily Brown listed as 7th D. Only 11 forwards, with Conner and Jungels on 4th line.
What's up with Brown? On the line sheet I picked up Friday she was shown as a scratch, then today as the 7th D?
Evidently nothing...It was talked about on the broadcast that she was attended a good friends wedding Friday. It was RIT so why not give some other players more ice time. She looked just fine out their today.

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Re: Women's hockey

Post by D2D » Sun Nov 14 9:07 am

Five-HoleFrenzy wrote:
Sat Nov 13 9:41 pm
Evidently nothing...It was talked about on the broadcast that she was attended a good friends wedding Friday. It was RIT so why not give some other players more ice time. She looked just fine out their today.
Good news, thanks. I had to miss yesterday's game due to a wedding I had to attend! Sure hope the team doesn't overlook St. Cloud next weekend...
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Re: Women's hockey

Post by Lancaster » Mon Nov 15 9:52 am

Wisconsin finally announced times for Dec series:
7 pm Fri the 3rd
3 pm Sat the 4th

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Post by Lancaster » Wed Nov 17 3:02 pm

No word yet on streaming for Nashville Smashville Friday and Saturday after Thanksgiving.

My guess is still that it will be LiveBarn. Last time it was not good but it was free. I like the option to watch even if it isn’t good (but I hope it’s not $14.95 for terrible :-o )

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Re: Women's hockey

Post by Lancaster » Fri Nov 19 7:00 pm

Awfully nice pass from Emily Oden on that third goal :dup:

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Re: Women's hockey

Post by D2D » Fri Nov 19 10:46 pm

Lancaster wrote:
Fri Nov 19 7:00 pm
Awfully nice pass from Emily Oden on that third goal :dup:
Gee, how could this be possible? According to the recruiting thread it's all individual play with no passing. :roll:
And from the box score in tonight's game I see the team registered 11 assists to score their 6 goals - not a sign of all individual play.
And finally check out Taylor Heise's interview with the league's commissioner. Nothing but positive things to say about her teammates and coaching staff. Totally genuine.

https://www.wcha.com/women/index.php
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Re: Women's hockey

Post by Lancaster » Sat Nov 20 8:15 am

D2D wrote:
Fri Nov 19 10:46 pm
Lancaster wrote:
Fri Nov 19 7:00 pm
Awfully nice pass from Emily Oden on that third goal :dup:
Gee, how could this be possible? According to the recruiting thread it's all individual play with no passing. :roll:
And from the box score in tonight's game I see the team registered 11 assists to score their 6 goals - not a sign of all individual play.
And finally check out Taylor Heise's interview with the league's commissioner. Nothing but positive things to say about her teammates and coaching staff. Totally genuine.

https://www.wcha.com/women/index.php
The dramatic post has been edited out. But also, he referenced the coaches relying on 10/11 players. Clearly the Gophers play many more than that regularly. If the stuff about the dads, and the laziness in recruiting, and encouraging high school players to transfer..and all of that chaotic sounding stuff....is it possible that is as exaggerated as the 10/11 players remark?

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Re: Women's hockey

Post by Lancaster » Sat Nov 20 3:29 pm

Heise and Boreen, to me, look like they love playing together. Heise deserves more of the credit of course, but still!

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Re: Women's hockey

Post by D2D » Sat Nov 20 11:57 pm

One troubling aspect of today's game was the number of totally unnecessary (lazy?) penalties the Gophers took, 8 in all including 4 in the 2nd period. Fortunately we were not playing either Wisconsin or Ohio State or even Duluth, in which case the final outcome could have easily been very different.
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