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Post by Karlsson » Mon Apr 19 4:23 pm

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Post by Buzzkill Bonin » Mon Apr 19 4:55 pm

I thought we'd get one NCHC captain but not THAT one! That's big. And he can skate like the wind which Gopher hockey has been lacking in numbers. Do we know for sure the other five are all coming, especially Huglen?
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Post by bearpaw28 » Mon Apr 19 5:00 pm

Bonin21 wrote:
Mon Apr 19 3:56 pm
mnrouser wrote:
Mon Apr 19 3:07 pm
Bonin21 wrote:
Mon Apr 19 12:49 pm
mnrouser wrote:
Mon Apr 19 12:43 pm
I was referring to things to do in these towns not the scenery. Of course Duluth is more picturesque than Grand Forks, St.Cloud, Mankato but these towns have pretty much the same attractions (bars, restaurants, malls, etc..) A certain town might have something another town doesn't have but overall there the same. IMO.
Duluth has better restaurants and breweries
Thank you for acknowledging that these other towns have restaurants and breweries.
Pretty much everyone on here will agree the Duluth road trip is the best one by a mile from your list.
Plus you’re playing little bro from 150 miles due north & with a little luck, the oil can will be ROCKING come October, although some student chants may be a bit R rated :wink: :biggrin2:

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Post by YoungEagle » Mon Apr 19 5:06 pm

I’ve been to Amsoil a few times, beautiful rink/facilities but always was left disappointed by student/fan attendance and participation. Saw the Gophers play and WMU a few years back. Maybe that’s changed.
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Post by ddillon22 » Mon Apr 19 5:09 pm

Bonin21 wrote:
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I thought we'd get one NCHC captain but not THAT one! That's big. And he can skate like the wind which Gopher hockey has been lacking in numbers. Do we know for sure the other five are all coming, especially Huglen?
I would think he would be a great skater given his mother. I always like it when opposing coaches talk about how fast the Gophers are. Those are the years we are good.

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Post by frozen4champs » Mon Apr 19 5:13 pm

IF there are no more departures up front, and with the 5 recruits and Cruikshank coming it, the forward depth will be off the charts. Plus, a lot of the guys that are coming in can play center, and will allow more flexibility. The 4th line has the potential to be, as Clymer likes to say, the best 4th line in the country. :D

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Post by Laxref » Mon Apr 19 5:15 pm

Bonin21 wrote:
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I thought we'd get one NCHC captain but not THAT one! That's big. And he can skate like the wind which Gopher hockey has been lacking in numbers. Do we know for sure the other five are all coming, especially Huglen?
Is this as good a transfer as anyone has picked up so far this offseason? Has to be top 3 at least right?

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Post by Buzzkill Bonin » Mon Apr 19 5:22 pm

Laxref wrote:
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Bonin21 wrote:
Mon Apr 19 4:55 pm
I thought we'd get one NCHC captain but not THAT one! That's big. And he can skate like the wind which Gopher hockey has been lacking in numbers. Do we know for sure the other five are all coming, especially Huglen?
Is this as good a transfer as anyone has picked up so far this offseason? Has to be top 3 at least right?
For skaters ya I think he's in the top 3 discussion and probably safely about top 5. Importantly we can get two years out of him.
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Post by Buzzkill Bonin » Mon Apr 19 5:25 pm

frozen4champs wrote:
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The 4th line has the potential to be, as Clymer likes to say, the best 4th line in the country. :D
I feel like in the years we least expect it they are noticeable, and when we expect big things we don't hear a peep. So I'm going to go ahead and say, no they're going to suck. ;)
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Post by Bertogliat » Mon Apr 19 5:32 pm

Karlsson wrote:
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His mom is Bonnie Blair?

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Post by Buzzkill Bonin » Mon Apr 19 5:32 pm

As someone who likes players that put the puck in the net, I like a 30-15 career stat line after losing our two biggest above-500 pitchers Ranta (37-30) and Reedy (40-37).
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Post by Buzzkill Bonin » Mon Apr 19 5:33 pm

Bertogliat wrote:
Mon Apr 19 5:32 pm
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Welcome aboard Grant Cruikshank!
His mom is Bonnie Blair?
Yup
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Post by frozen4champs » Mon Apr 19 5:33 pm

Bertogliat wrote:
Mon Apr 19 5:32 pm
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Welcome aboard Grant Cruikshank!
His mom is Bonnie Blair?
Yes.

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Post by mnrouser » Mon Apr 19 5:37 pm

Bonin21 wrote:
Mon Apr 19 3:56 pm
mnrouser wrote:
Mon Apr 19 3:07 pm
Bonin21 wrote:
Mon Apr 19 12:49 pm
mnrouser wrote:
Mon Apr 19 12:43 pm
I was referring to things to do in these towns not the scenery. Of course Duluth is more picturesque than Grand Forks, St.Cloud, Mankato but these towns have pretty much the same attractions (bars, restaurants, malls, etc..) A certain town might have something another town doesn't have but overall there the same. IMO.
Duluth has better restaurants and breweries
Thank you for acknowledging that these other towns have restaurants and breweries.
Pretty much everyone on here will agree the Duluth road trip is the best one by a mile from your list.
My original comment had nothing to do with witch road trip is better ( you changed it to that topic). Alll I'm saying is that the towns I mentioned have the same attractions as the other towns ( bars, restaurants, a local mall, etc.). This wasn't meant to be a debate that Duluth is a better road trip than other road trips.

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Post by Buzzkill Bonin » Mon Apr 19 5:55 pm

The Gophers are now sitting on what I would call the ideal roster size. But they may add a D to hedge against the massive losses there next spring.
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Post by Norm » Mon Apr 19 6:43 pm

Now do we like the transfer rule?

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Post by Buzzkill Bonin » Mon Apr 19 7:10 pm

UMN vs UM for the Big Ten regular season championship, in the Big Ten championship game, and for the national championship. Heard it here first.
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Post by frozen4champs » Mon Apr 19 7:22 pm

Norm wrote:
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Now do we like the transfer rule?
I don't mind a guy or 2 a year at most, I just don't want it to interrupt the flow of recruits. Today is a good day though :D

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Post by Composer » Mon Apr 19 7:30 pm

Bonin—You’re out of your league with mnrouser.

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Composer wrote:
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Bonin—You’re out of your league with mnrouser.
I don't pay attention to who posts and so I checked his posts and realized he replies to mine a ton. No idea who he was.
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Another plus for GC? He was originally committed to uw. Hoping he gets a hatty on Moe and sends him to the showers.
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Post by Miller77 » Mon Apr 19 7:55 pm

Does Cruikshank play Center? Or left wing? Seems like a good addition...

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Miller77 wrote:
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Does Cruikshank play Center? Or left wing? Seems like a good addition...
He plays center.

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Bertogliat wrote:
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Welcome aboard Grant Cruikshank!
His mom is Bonnie Blair?
And his dad built possibly the greatest hockey skates ever made.

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Post by Miller77 » Mon Apr 19 8:02 pm

Most importantly, does he play with grit? Or is he another Edina boy who plays outside of the dots?

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Miller77 wrote:
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Most importantly, does he play with grit? Or is he another Edina boy who plays outside of the dots?
2 year captain at CC. Excellent skater, and an excellent 2 way player.

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This is a championship caliber roster top to bottom. I have not felt that since 2014-15.
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Post by frozen4champs » Mon Apr 19 8:19 pm

Bonin21 wrote:
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This is a championship caliber roster top to bottom.
Your positivity is going to give you a headache. :D

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Post by BlueBandit24 » Mon Apr 19 8:20 pm

Definitely a balanced roster loaded with potential. Going to be a fun year.

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frozen4champs wrote:
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This is a championship caliber roster top to bottom.
Your positivity is going to give you a headache. :D
Freshmen forwards will need to contribute. We'll know if it's for real about a month in.
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Post by frozen4champs » Mon Apr 19 8:49 pm

Wonder how tBob sets the lines now. He will have plenty of centers to choose from-- Walker, Meyers, Nelson, Perbix, Cruikshank, Knies, Huglen, Lucius. I'm guessing he will try to keep the freshmen on the wings. Cruikshank will also help the PP.

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Post by maroon_and_gold » Mon Apr 19 9:31 pm

Holy cow gonna be honest that Cruikshank transfer is outta nowhere but I couldn’t be more pumped we landed him.

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Post by maroon_and_gold » Mon Apr 19 9:32 pm

Gonna be the wolverines and the gophers at 1 and 2 all year next year, in any order.

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Post by Jupiter » Mon Apr 19 9:33 pm

I still think he will need to add some depth at D.... Only 8 guys on the roster right now and they have an extremely thin cupboards in the pipeline. I can see him adding from the portal at some point just for depth.

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maroon_and_gold wrote:
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Gonna be the wolverines and the gophers at 1 and 2 all year next year, in any order.
Pretty hard for two from one conference to hang at 1 and 2 in the voting polls, especially when all teams will be back playing.
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Jupiter wrote:
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I still think he will need to add some depth at D.... Only 8 guys on the roster right now and they have an extremely thin cupboards in the pipeline. I can see him adding from the portal at some point just for depth.
Noah Ganske the big Jefferson Jaguar is available for ya
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Post by Jupiter » Mon Apr 19 9:37 pm

Bonin21 wrote:
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Noah Ganske the big Jefferson Jaguar is available for ya
I have honestly never heard of him... Have not followed Jefferson hockey in decades.

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Post by maroon_and_gold » Mon Apr 19 9:38 pm

Bonin21 wrote:
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Jupiter wrote:
Mon Apr 19 9:33 pm
I still think he will need to add some depth at D.... Only 8 guys on the roster right now and they have an extremely thin cupboards in the pipeline. I can see him adding from the portal at some point just for depth.
Noah Ganske the big Jefferson Jaguar is available for ya
If we had a Roseau Ram, a Johnson Governor and a Jefferson Jaguar.......retro.

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Jupiter wrote:
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Noah Ganske the big Jefferson Jaguar is available for ya
I have honestly never heard of him... Have not followed Jefferson hockey in decades.
He's huge. And actually has some skill. I don't reckon they're going to be able to get a stud D when it's going to be hard to even get ice time for them next year since the best D in the portal right now are not great.
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Post by Buzzkill Bonin » Mon Apr 19 9:42 pm

Or John Schuldt from Tonka
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maroon_and_gold wrote:
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If we had a Roseau Ram, a Johnson Governor and a Jefferson Jaguar.......retro.
And a GR "Indian" that plays pond hockey style
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Post by frozen4champs » Tue Apr 20 7:42 am

tBob should have fun trying to puzzle these lines together. I kept Broz and Huglen together as they have been playing on the same line in Fargo. I could see Knies and Cruikshank changing lines as well.I could also see Nelson and Meyers flipping spots. Nevers, Sorenson and Pitlick may be the rotating extra skater/4th line winger. Again, tBob has 6 months to figure it out.

McLaughlin Walker Lucius
Huglen Meyers Broz
Brodzinski Nelson Knies
Pitlick Cruikshank Perbix
Nevers Schmidt Sorenson

Lacombe Staudacher
Johnson Faber
Koster Brinkman
Fish Denman

Laffer
Boynton
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McLaughlin, Walker, Lucius, Cruikshank, LaCombe
Brodzinski, Meyers, Knies, Nelson, Koster

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Bertogliat wrote:
Mon Apr 19 5:32 pm
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Welcome aboard Grant Cruikshank!
His mom is Bonnie Blair?
Yep 👍

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gopher6 wrote:
Tue Apr 20 7:53 am
Bertogliat wrote:
Mon Apr 19 5:32 pm
Karlsson wrote:
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Welcome aboard Grant Cruikshank!
His mom is Bonnie Blair?
Yep 👍
Did he get her speed? I hope so!

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frozen4champs wrote:
Tue Apr 20 7:42 am
tBob should have fun trying to puzzle these lines together. I kept Broz and Huglen together as they have been playing on the same line in Fargo. I could see Knies and Cruikshank changing lines as well.I could also see Nelson and Meyers flipping spots. Nevers, Sorenson and Pitlick may be the rotating extra skater/4th line winger. Again, tBob has 6 months to figure it out.

McLaughlin Walker Lucius
Huglen Meyers Broz
Brodzinski Nelson Knies
Pitlick Cruikshank Perbix
Nevers Schmidt Sorenson

Lacombe Staudacher
Johnson Faber
Koster Brinkman
Fish Denman

Laffer
Boynton
Close

PP
McLaughlin, Walker, Lucius, Cruikshank, LaCombe
Brodzinski, Meyers, Knies, Nelson, Koster
I’ll be surprised if they bring in 5 freshmen forwards plus Cruikshank...somebody will get pushed back to playing another year of juniors. Skilled guys exclusively playing 4th line roles rarely works. That said, the roster for 21-22 appears stacked, poised to make a deep post season run. This will be an exciting team to watch...a top 5 team.

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tBob should have fun trying to puzzle these lines together. I kept Broz and Huglen together as they have been playing on the same line in Fargo. I could see Knies and Cruikshank changing lines as well.I could also see Nelson and Meyers flipping spots. Nevers, Sorenson and Pitlick may be the rotating extra skater/4th line winger. Again, tBob has 6 months to figure it out.

McLaughlin Walker Lucius
Huglen Meyers Broz
Brodzinski Nelson Knies
Pitlick Cruikshank Perbix
Nevers Schmidt Sorenson

Lacombe Staudacher
Johnson Faber
Koster Brinkman
Fish Denman

Laffer
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McLaughlin, Walker, Lucius, Cruikshank, LaCombe
Brodzinski, Meyers, Knies, Nelson, Koster
I’ll be surprised if they bring in 5 freshmen forwards plus Cruikshank...somebody will get pushed back to playing another year of juniors. Skilled guys exclusively playing 4th line roles rarely works.
I know that would be wise, but who do you push back? Broz has played 2 good years at the USHL level and currently is top 10 in points. Huglen could be the guy, but I'm afraid if he doesn't come in, we lose him to the green team. Also, who ever ends up on the 4th line, it could be a pretty good line. Does Huglen stay 4 years anyway?

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Post by Vegoe » Tue Apr 20 9:17 am

bearpaw28 wrote:
Tue Apr 20 8:19 am
frozen4champs wrote:
Tue Apr 20 7:42 am
tBob should have fun trying to puzzle these lines together. I kept Broz and Huglen together as they have been playing on the same line in Fargo. I could see Knies and Cruikshank changing lines as well.I could also see Nelson and Meyers flipping spots. Nevers, Sorenson and Pitlick may be the rotating extra skater/4th line winger. Again, tBob has 6 months to figure it out.

McLaughlin Walker Lucius
Huglen Meyers Broz
Brodzinski Nelson Knies
Pitlick Cruikshank Perbix
Nevers Schmidt Sorenson

Lacombe Staudacher
Johnson Faber
Koster Brinkman
Fish Denman

Laffer
Boynton
Close

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McLaughlin, Walker, Lucius, Cruikshank, LaCombe
Brodzinski, Meyers, Knies, Nelson, Koster
I’ll be surprised if they bring in 5 freshmen forwards plus Cruikshank...somebody will get pushed back to playing another year of juniors. Skilled guys exclusively playing 4th line roles rarely works. That said, the roster for 21-22 appears stacked, poised to make a deep post season run. This will be an exciting team to watch...a top 5 team.
Lucius, Huglen, Broz, Knies and Pitlick are all signed to their NLIs, they're coming in now unless they choose to play an extra year of juniors. It'll be a very competitive lineup next year.

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Post by glenhogan21 » Tue Apr 20 9:58 am

We should bring in all freshman. They can all help in different ways. I could see Pitlick being very effective on 4th line with Nelson and Perbix. I think it will be tough for Nevers to get in line-up unless injuries. Excited for the year, rosters often look great on paper but this is best one we have had in a while. Could argue we have best D Corp 1-6 in country, one of best recruiting classes and one of best senior classes. See what Motzko can do with this group!

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Updated based on the few rumors we've heard.

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Post by YoungEagle » Tue Apr 20 10:58 am

It will be nice to play our local MN/North Dakota rivals again. The Michigan series should get Mariucci Rocking hopefully. Should be a dog fight.
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Post by maroon_and_gold » Tue Apr 20 11:59 am

Am I jumping the gun to say Frozen Four is the bare minimum for this team next year? I know there’s still the entire offseason to happen......wish it was September.

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I don’t recall this board being this excited since the Justin Holl game.

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maroon_and_gold wrote:
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Am I jumping the gun to say Frozen Four is the bare minimum for this team next year? I know there’s still the entire offseason to happen......wish it was September.
Wish it was April 2022 👌

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Post by Cowgirl » Tue Apr 20 1:41 pm

Let’s start with October 2021 first. :)

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Post by glenhogan21 » Tue Apr 20 2:32 pm

g-manpuck wrote:
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Line combo's....GO!
My early guess... I think Cruikshank has played RW and Center, same as Walker so interchangeable. Lots of options to move around guys that are playing well etc. Even with the stacked forward group, the strength of the team is still with the D group and goal. Should be a fun season, can't wait!

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Post by Buzzkill Bonin » Tue Apr 20 2:38 pm

Gophers need to be better at faceoffs so if Cruikshank is better than Walker there let him take center. Perbix might lose his center job on the 4L if he keeps losing draws. Nelson is solid and Meyers holds his own, too.
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Post by Eckes » Tue Apr 20 2:50 pm

I've thought for a few years now that Walker's senior year was when the team had a chance to win it all again. Looking like that is going to be right, although for some reasons that I didn't expect.

On paper they're one of the top couple teams in the country. Should have as good a chance as anyone to win it all next year. Here's hoping we're back to normal by the time the season starts, because I'd sure love to see this team in person.
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Post by JC65 » Tue Apr 20 2:51 pm

Bonin21 wrote:
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Gophers need to be better at faceoffs so if Cruikshank is better than Walker there let him take center. Perbix might lose his center job on the 4L if he keeps losing draws. Nelson is solid and Meyers holds his own, too.
Nelson 57.3%
Meyers 55.6%
Cruikshank 51.2%
Walker 48.7%
Perbix 40.6% (come on, man)
I'd go out on a limb and say 57% is better than "solid". (edit: sorry, I mis-read at first)

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Re: Gopher Offseason 2021...

Post by Bertogliat » Tue Apr 20 3:12 pm

Bonin21 wrote:
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Gophers need to be better at faceoffs so if Cruikshank is better than Walker there let him take center. Perbix might lose his center job on the 4L if he keeps losing draws. Nelson is solid and Meyers holds his own, too.
Nelson 57.3%
Meyers 55.6%
Cruikshank 51.2%
Walker 48.7%
Perbix 40.6% (come on, man)
There is a lot more to playing center than winning faceoffs. It's not like they're a wing who also takes faceoffs.

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Post by streakygopher » Wed Apr 21 11:10 am

maroon_and_gold wrote:
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Am I jumping the gun to say Frozen Four is the bare minimum for this team next year? I know there’s still the entire offseason to happen......wish it was September.
The tournament is the great equalizer. Good teams get tripped up in single games all the time.

That said, I think a Frozen Four appearance is the minimum expectation for next season, but we'll know better at the Christmas break what kind of team this is.

When asked about his measure of success, I'd like to see the coach adopt more of a "this team is built to win a national title" attitude versus the "we already had a successful season" comment we got from him in the regional this year.

Bob is on the hot seat for sure. This team has the horses. Can it - and Bob - win?

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streakygopher wrote:
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Bob is on the hot seat for sure. This team has the horses. Can it - and Bob - win?
I think it largely depends on how quickly the large contingent of freshmen forwards get acclimated to the college game. The team needs more scoring, and for this team to reach the Frozen Four the freshmen will need to provide a substantial boost to the offense. Having such a skilled contingent on the blue line should be a big help in the adjustment process.

The other question mark is can the team as a whole learn to penetrate the stiff zone trap that the likes of Mankato throw at them? The Gophers will still be a young team, and getting into the offensive zone and keeping it there will be a work in progress.
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Post by Buzzkill Bonin » Wed Apr 21 1:18 pm

Idk about "hot seat".

I feel like Bob has gotten pretty much a B+ all three seasons and therefore I give his first three years a B+. A regular season title or FF appearance can get a season to an A-.

I'll say over the next two seasons he needs at least one FF appearance and at least one regular season championship, otherwise we can start to evaluate what he needs to do in year 6 to not land after that season on a truly hot seat.
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Post by g-manpuck » Wed Apr 21 1:45 pm

I guess to pile on the "hot seat" discussion, if Bob's teams hadn't shown improvement year over year I would agree that a hot seat might live in his office. To me IMO his teams have improved, his recruiting has been above par, and he put a trophy in the case this season, plus his he has a couple all americans and their GPA is very good. To me he hits the marks on everything you want in a good to great coach. I think he is quite a distance away from a hot seat.
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Post by trixR4kids » Wed Apr 21 1:48 pm

Yeah the team could just get really unlucky in any given tournament game. I think they should prob be top of the conference though or maybe neck and neck with Michigan, have a good record in the out of conference games and against in state teams for once, and at the very least play well in their tournament games. No huge stinkers like the Mankato game where it isn't even competitive. Obviously I'd like to see them win the tournament but it's hard to predict how goaltending/special teams will play out sometimes in a one game scenario.
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Post by Davey J. » Wed Apr 21 2:07 pm

frozen4champs wrote:
Tue Apr 20 7:42 am

McLaughlin Walker Lucius
Huglen Meyers Broz
Brodzinski Nelson Knies
Pitlick Cruikshank Perbix
Nevers Schmidt Sorenson

Lacombe Staudacher
Johnson Faber
Koster Brinkman
Fish Denman

Laffer
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McLaughlin, Walker, Lucius, Cruikshank, LaCombe
Brodzinski, Meyers, Knies, Nelson, Koster

This is what I would try...

McLaughlin/Cruikshank/Brodzinski
Knies/Meyers/Walker
Lucius/Nelson/Hulgen
Broz/Schmidt/Perbix/Sorenson/Pitlick/Nevers

LaCombe/Staudacher
Johnson/Faber
Fish/Koster
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Post by Buzzkill Bonin » Wed Apr 21 2:20 pm

Davey J. wrote:
Wed Apr 21 2:07 pm
This is what I would try...

McLaughlin/Cruikshank/Brodzinski
Knies/Meyers/Walker
Lucius/Nelson/Hulgen
Broz/Schmidt/Perbix/Sorenson/Pitlick/Nevers

LaCombe/Staudacher
Johnson/Faber
Fish/Koster
Denman/Brinkman
Seems legit mostly. Brodz/Knies/Huglen/Broz/Pitlick could shuffle around depending how they do. Basically impossible to predict.

I also don't expect Fish to jump Brinkman, but I think he will be the extra skater in at least half the games. One of the forwards that doesn't play may want to transfer at Christmas break. Sorenson or Nevers.
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Post by 5 O.T. » Wed Apr 21 3:55 pm

streakygopher wrote:
Wed Apr 21 11:10 am
maroon_and_gold wrote:
Tue Apr 20 11:59 am
Am I jumping the gun to say Frozen Four is the bare minimum for this team next year? I know there’s still the entire offseason to happen......wish it was September.
The tournament is the great equalizer. Good teams get tripped up in single games all the time.

That said, I think a Frozen Four appearance is the minimum expectation for next season, but we'll know better at the Christmas break what kind of team this is.

When asked about his measure of success, I'd like to see the coach adopt more of a "this team is built to win a national title" attitude versus the "we already had a successful season" comment we got from him in the regional this year.

Bob is on the hot seat for sure. This team has the horses. Can it - and Bob - win?
As long as one of the calling cards of a Motzko coached team is that it's the least penalized team in college hockey, a NC isn't in the cards. When you are the least physical, least penalized team in college hockey, you have no answer to an older, more physically mature and more physically aggressive team. This years one-sided thumping by Mankato was exhibit A. :blackeye:

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Post by Buzzkill Bonin » Wed Apr 21 4:10 pm

Gopher hockey is soft. No doubt about that.

But in recent years when they had more penalty minutes they were coming from the lack of hockey skill on the defense and that was painful to watch. I'll take what we have now over that.

More penalty minutes <> a better team
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Post by trixR4kids » Wed Apr 21 4:17 pm

Yeah Idk, often times teams without a ton of hits just have the puck a lot more than their opponent and are outskating them. The blackhawks teams at the start of the decade were a good example, the Penguins under Sullivan hit a lot less than the old Bylsma teams, pretty sure TB wasn't a heavy hitting team either. And obviously penalties don't help you win so having less of those is probably a good thing.

Any team needs a certain amount of physicality to win games, it's hard to get anything going in front of the net or block the goalie's vision if you don't. But the issues against Mankato just seemed more like the team was completely off than anything.
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Post by 5 O.T. » Wed Apr 21 4:17 pm

Bonin21 wrote:
Wed Apr 21 1:18 pm
Idk about "hot seat".

I feel like Bob has gotten pretty much a B+ all three seasons and therefore I give his first three years a B+. A regular season title or FF appearance can get a season to an A-.

I'll say over the next two seasons he needs at least one FF appearance and at least one regular season championship, otherwise we can start to evaluate what he needs to do in year 6 to not land after that season on a truly hot seat.
Seems like you're setting the bar pretty low. Three B+ seasons seems kind of mediocre, even by your earlier professed standards.

Herb Brooks had a 15-16-3 record in his first season. In his next six seasons he coached the Gophers to four Frozen Fours. The Gophers played for the National Championship three years in a row, winning two of those three and winning three National Championships in total.

Brad Buetow
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Doug Woog
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Don Lucia
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Giving Motzko six years before he hits the hot seat makes no sense. He's in the hot seat. Now.

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Post by 5 O.T. » Wed Apr 21 4:19 pm

trixR4kids wrote:
Wed Apr 21 4:17 pm
Yeah Idk, often times teams without a ton of hits just have the puck a lot more than their opponent and are outskating them. The blackhawks teams at the start of the decade were a good example, the Penguins under Sullivan hit a lot less than the old Bylsma teams, pretty sure TB wasn't a heavy hitting team either. And obviously penalties don't help you win so having less of those is probably a good thing.
I'm talking about Gopher hockey, not NHL hockey. Apples to oranges.

I've seen every Gopher team since 1965-66. The successful teams, the exciting teams and the Championship winning teams all played a very aggressive brand of hockey. They weren't afraid of taking penalties. The penalties come with being the aggressor. Those teams were skilled, played physical and were the team that was intimidating to their opponents. Worrying about taking penalties instead of playing aggressive hockey just isn't Gopher hockey.
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Post by trixR4kids » Wed Apr 21 4:21 pm

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I'm talking about Gopher hockey, not NHL hockey. Apples to oranges.
It's ultimately the same game and you win by outscoring the opposition. Not by committing more penalties.
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5 O.T. wrote:
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Giving Motzko six years before he hits the hot seat makes no sense. He's in the hot seat. Now.
The first two seasons were spent cleaning that absolute mess Lucia left by being held three years too long. Also there is more parity now at tourney time.

I think one FF minimum and one reg season championship (giving the threat of Michigan) minimum over the next two seasons is reasonable.
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Post by trixR4kids » Wed Apr 21 4:43 pm

Also I forget when the NCAA tourney format changed but comparing the results of the old 2 game series format to results of the current one and done format doesn't really work all that well. There's more randomness in the second format especially as parity has increased across the sport.
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Post by 5 O.T. » Wed Apr 21 4:47 pm

trixR4kids wrote:
Wed Apr 21 4:21 pm
5 O.T. wrote:
Wed Apr 21 4:19 pm
I'm talking about Gopher hockey, not NHL hockey. Apples to oranges.
It's ultimately the same game and you win by outscoring the opposition. Not by committing more penalties.
The great Gopher teams had no problem doing both. They committed more penalties, scored more than the opposition and won more games. Those teams were exciting to watch and the arena was always full. Most of the time the people in the stands were on their feet because there was so much action on the ice. Not sitting on their asses watching boring modern day no check Gopher hockey.

Nowadays, Gopher hockey is soft, non aggressive and they are easily pushed around. The Gophers intimidate nobody. With the exception of this season, people don't want to buy tickets for passive, non-aggressive hockey. It's boring when there is zero conflict on the ice.

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