Yep, in the last 24 games vs BADgers the Gophers are 14-9-1.



Yep, in the last 24 games vs BADgers the Gophers are 14-9-1.
No doubt. And have almost twice as many wins head-to-head historically. Guy clearly isn’t a Gopher hockey fan.frozen4champs wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06 9:27 pmYep, in the last 24 games vs BADgers the Gophers are 14-9-1.![]()
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Wisconsin won, so it’s clearly not. Great day for the BADgers, but not for hockey.
He said on the radio post game that they were flat as a door nail. Said he did not see this coming. He said he didn't think he had to blow anything up. He seemed fairly calm. I just think he was shocked and really did not have much to say about it. I think he will practice them like he did after the losses to ND earlier.JDUBBS1280 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06 9:34 pmReally anxious to hear what Bob has to say after this disaster of a game. This team should get a week of solid bag skates after this effort. Two goals on the weekend. Brutal.
Look at their goal differential before this weekend. It was historically good. This isn’t a middle of the pack team in terms of talent. They played a team that should be in the Top 5 nationally and no-showed. This Gopher team is every bit as good as Wisconsin, but didn’t play like it this weekend. Wisconsin did.JoeGopher wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06 9:40 pmAnd what were people saying earlier today about my comments being a 7-10 team nationally in any other year? I like this team. I think they just played an unfortunate schedule early where they weren't really tested until Wisco after the WJC break. They are playing to their ability and drive. I think they will finish either 2nd or 3rd in the B10 this year; get a bid for the tourney and lose in the first or second round. An improvement from last year and a necessary step for the years to come.
In case you're wondering, and I am guessing you're not, I predict they finish the year either 4-4 0r 3-5. Still a good year and an improvement from last year.
Based on tonight's performance I would argue that they are NOT the same team. The earlier version would not lose a series to Wisconsin by a combined 12-1.
Thanks. Not sure how they couldn’t get up for this weekend. I’d makes the practices a living Hell this week.frozen4champs wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06 9:42 pmHe said on the radio post game that they were flat as a door nail. Said he did not see this coming. He said he didn't think he had to blow anything up. He seemed fairly calm. I just think he was shocked and really did not have much to say about it. I think he will practice them like he did after the losses to ND earlier.JDUBBS1280 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06 9:34 pmReally anxious to hear what Bob has to say after this disaster of a game. This team should get a week of solid bag skates after this effort. Two goals on the weekend. Brutal.
If Wisconsin-Madison is the state's most prestigious university and the state itself is known as The Dairy State, does that mean UW is Bovine University?
If this doesn't put a chip on their shoulder, nothing will. The optimist that I am, I think they will circle the wagons and redeem themselves next weekend. Plus, they have the ND sweep on their mind from last time. We will see what kind of leaders they have.JDUBBS1280 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06 9:46 pmThanks. Not sure how they couldn’t get up for this weekend. I’d makes the practices a living Hell this week.frozen4champs wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06 9:42 pmHe said on the radio post game that they were flat as a door nail. Said he did not see this coming. He said he didn't think he had to blow anything up. He seemed fairly calm. I just think he was shocked and really did not have much to say about it. I think he will practice them like he did after the losses to ND earlier.JDUBBS1280 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06 9:34 pmReally anxious to hear what Bob has to say after this disaster of a game. This team should get a week of solid bag skates after this effort. Two goals on the weekend. Brutal.
Plus, if he was really nicked up in warmups, it may have been best to pull him to rest that.thinkbui wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06 9:47 pmOne thing that's clear to me from this game is LaFontaine is definitely our #1 goalie. He may have been pulled after just over one period, but it wasn't really on him while Wisco never really gave Moe or Close their best shot. It was probably the right decision to pull him after that 4th goal and give him a rest before next weekend, but I actually wonder if our best chance to claw back into this game would have been to leave him in goal.
He’s a Wisconsin hockey fan, so cut him some slack. He’s probably been waiting to gloat on here for a decade.
Ironic that a guy from South Minneapolis & an ex-Gopher coinedthat phrase.
He did seem a bit more pointed during his media Q & A though. Vegoe has a recap of it on Twitter.JDUBBS1280 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06 9:46 pmThanks. Not sure how they couldn’t get up for this weekend. I’d makes the practices a living Hell this week.frozen4champs wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06 9:42 pmHe said on the radio post game that they were flat as a door nail. Said he did not see this coming. He said he didn't think he had to blow anything up. He seemed fairly calm. I just think he was shocked and really did not have much to say about it. I think he will practice them like he did after the losses to ND earlier.JDUBBS1280 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06 9:34 pmReally anxious to hear what Bob has to say after this disaster of a game. This team should get a week of solid bag skates after this effort. Two goals on the weekend. Brutal.
I’d tell you to go
Thank you sir. Will check that out when I’m done venting on Twitterfrozen4champs wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06 10:17 pmHe did seem a bit more pointed during his media Q & A though. Vegoe has a recap of it on Twitter.JDUBBS1280 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06 9:46 pmThanks. Not sure how they couldn’t get up for this weekend. I’d makes the practices a living Hell this week.frozen4champs wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06 9:42 pmHe said on the radio post game that they were flat as a door nail. Said he did not see this coming. He said he didn't think he had to blow anything up. He seemed fairly calm. I just think he was shocked and really did not have much to say about it. I think he will practice them like he did after the losses to ND earlier.JDUBBS1280 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06 9:34 pmReally anxious to hear what Bob has to say after this disaster of a game. This team should get a week of solid bag skates after this effort. Two goals on the weekend. Brutal.
Sorry, but I have no respect for your program or your fans. Disrespect intended
Clever comeback if we were still in middle school. You can do better.Diesel Gopher wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06 10:22 pm
I’d tell you to goyourself, but I’m pretty sure you’d enjoy that.
JDUBBS1280 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06 10:26 pm
Sorry, but I have no respect for your program or your fans. Disrespect intended![]()
We’re 176-99-24 against you. Wouldn’t call that much of a rivalry. If you’d been coming around while we were sweeping the floor with your program in recent years, the responses you’re getting would be much more good natured.BuckyFan wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06 10:33 pmJDUBBS1280 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06 10:26 pm
Sorry, but I have no respect for your program or your fans. Disrespect intended![]()
Wouldn't want it any other way!
#BorderBattle
#Rivalry
You seem to not understand that we don’t care what you think either way.
MNGophers29 wrote:When the wife asks, I will just tell her "Rube said it was ok"!! LOL!
He was holding back tonight from really speaking his mind. He's been around long enough to be even keeled as a coach, even when his team is not. All the calls for bag skate and hell week practices will only weaken their legs for playing Notre Dame. The only way to get through to kids who won't listen to coaching is taking away power play time, taking away ice time, taking away practice time, taking away coaching time, etc. It's not like they can make a trade or call guys up to send a message.frozen4champs wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06 10:17 pmHe did seem a bit more pointed during his media Q & A though. Vegoe has a recap of it on Twitter.JDUBBS1280 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06 9:46 pmThanks. Not sure how they couldn’t get up for this weekend. I’d makes the practices a living Hell this week.frozen4champs wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06 9:42 pmHe said on the radio post game that they were flat as a door nail. Said he did not see this coming. He said he didn't think he had to blow anything up. He seemed fairly calm. I just think he was shocked and really did not have much to say about it. I think he will practice them like he did after the losses to ND earlier.JDUBBS1280 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06 9:34 pmReally anxious to hear what Bob has to say after this disaster of a game. This team should get a week of solid bag skates after this effort. Two goals on the weekend. Brutal.
Never experienced that, but I’ll use my imagination.00xtremeninja wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06 11:44 pmSometimes in life you get your dick knocked into the dirt. It's how you respond that matters. No time to feel sorry for themselves, gotta be ready for ND
Wow, was I ever wrong. This series reminds me of the 2-8 and 3-6 losses against Penn State last season (both of which I was unfortunately in attendance for).
I’d bag skate them. They’re young. Their legs can take it. If you can’t get up for a big series like this, there are big issues. Getting swept is one thing, but this was a complete embarrassment. No time to be soft IMO. Just my $0.02, but I certainly see your points.Vegoe wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06 11:16 pmHe was holding back tonight from really speaking his mind. He's been around long enough to be even keeled as a coach, even when his team is not. All the calls for bag skate and hell week practices will only weaken their legs for playing Notre Dame. The only way to get through to kids who won't listen to coaching is taking away power play time, taking away ice time, taking away practice time, taking away coaching time, etc. It's not like they can make a trade or call guys up to send a message.frozen4champs wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06 10:17 pmHe did seem a bit more pointed during his media Q & A though. Vegoe has a recap of it on Twitter.JDUBBS1280 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06 9:46 pmThanks. Not sure how they couldn’t get up for this weekend. I’d makes the practices a living Hell this week.frozen4champs wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06 9:42 pmHe said on the radio post game that they were flat as a door nail. Said he did not see this coming. He said he didn't think he had to blow anything up. He seemed fairly calm. I just think he was shocked and really did not have much to say about it. I think he will practice them like he did after the losses to ND earlier.JDUBBS1280 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06 9:34 pmReally anxious to hear what Bob has to say after this disaster of a game. This team should get a week of solid bag skates after this effort. Two goals on the weekend. Brutal.
The way they've played tonight will not fly the next few weeks. Practice can be firm and targeted on what they need to focus on going forward, but based on what I've seen the past two years -- that's probably already happening and this team should know better by now. They might have some young D in Faber and Koster, but LaCombe and Johnson have been through this. Their forwards are very experienced--they should know what's coming.
This next week is why Motzko gets paid the big bucks. There are a lot of eyes on the program, just look at the Star Tribune on Saturday and they have a huge opportunity to define where they're headed the rest of this month.
And... Wisconsin is back. Maybe that's a good thing?
Not sure if I would call bag skates archaic. Not sure how effective it would be with this group, and you and Vegoe certainly do make some good points. However, it is a little concerning when the team can’t get up for a big series. Again, it’s not that they got swept. They got embarrassed.Cowgirl wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07 1:18 amIs fatiguing them physically the best recourse? I don’t know. I didn’t grow up playing hockey and I’m not sure archaic methods of punishment will yield the results we want. Not denying a message needs to be sent, but physically or emotionally abusing our guys isn’t the right answer. Yes they should have some extra work this week, but hopefully their mental coaches (this has to be a thing these days?) can help them fix their headspace.
We’ve had a taste of tArrogance and I know we have all been starved of it for some time, let’s hope coach knows how to get the best out of these guys. I do believe we have a very special team, but we need to bring our A game to every series the rest of this season.
Keep the faith, Gopher fans. It’s my middle name, so I’ll do as much as I can.![]()
They certainly deserve to fall drastically in the polls, and I am not sure that is a bad thing. I am still convinced this team is a really good team. You don’t get the goal differential (even minus the ASU series) they had and win all games in regulation if you are an average team. They have the potential to be a great team, but they are certainly not without weaknesses and seem to really struggle with adversity.streakygopher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07 1:25 amThere is no way to spin this positively, so I won't even try. They were humiliated in every aspect of the game.
Their arch rival just came into a bigger rink and beat the Gophers at their own game - twice. In the process they swapped spots with them in the league standing. Wisconsin scored on their first three shots in two games, and dropped a snowman on them tonight. It was quite shocking.
After starting 10-0, they're a .500 club - and they've lost against the better teams. Wisconsin is so far ahead of the Gophers right now. Minnesota is completely deflated and devoid of confidence.
I think this team has been overrated for some time now, and I expect they'll slip badly in the polls as a result of this Chernobyl weekend.
Next weekend will define if that statement is true.streakygopher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07 1:25 amThere is no way to spin this positively, so I won't even try. They were humiliated in every aspect of the game.
Their arch rival just came into a bigger rink and beat the Gophers at their own game - twice. In the process they swapped spots with them in the league standing. Wisconsin scored on their first three shots in two games, and dropped a snowman on them tonight. It was quite shocking.
After starting 10-0, they're a .500 club - and they've lost against the better teams. Wisconsin is so far ahead of the Gophers right now. Minnesota is completely deflated and devoid of confidence.
I think this team has been overrated for some time now, and I expect they'll slip badly in the polls as a result of this Chernobyl weekend.
It has always amused me when BADger fans gloat about their team. Teams with rosters heavily loaded with Minnesota hockey players and usually few if any Wisconsin developed hockey players. Granted Holden Cau(l)field is a great hockey player but all in all Wisconsin itself doesn't produce much talent at all.
I agree. I think a spirited practice is more of a solution than fatiguing them with a bag skate. Just like tBob did after the last ND series, work on puck battles and the basics and try to keep their legs fresh. They can draw on last years Whioux series and lets hope they can finish this year like they did last year.Cowgirl wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07 1:18 amIs fatiguing them physically the best recourse? I don’t know. I didn’t grow up playing hockey and I’m not sure archaic methods of punishment will yield the results we want. Not denying a message needs to be sent, but physically or emotionally abusing our guys isn’t the right answer. Yes they should have some extra work this week, but hopefully their mental coaches (this has to be a thing these days?) can help them fix their headspace.
We’ve had a taste of tArrogance and I know we have all been starved of it for some time, let’s hope coach knows how to get the best out of these guys. I do believe we have a very special team, but we need to bring our A game to every series the rest of this season.
Keep the faith, Gopher fans. It’s my middle name, so I’ll do as much as I can.![]()
If you DVR'd the Notre Dame vs Ohio State game last evening, then that is, indeed, what you saw - in an identical score game ( though apple and oranges opponent comparison ): 8 - 1 Notre Dame https://und.com/ndhockey-highlights-vs- ... te-2-6-21/
Fun fact - There are almost as many Minnesotans with their name on the Stanley Cup (34) as there are Wisconsinites who have played in the NHL all-time (38).north45 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07 7:57 amIt has always amused me when BADger fans gloat about their team. Teams with rosters heavily loaded with Minnesota hockey players and usually few if any Wisconsin developed hockey players. Granted Holden Cau(l)field is a great hockey player but all in all Wisconsin itself doesn't produce much talent at all.
I don't think the losses to ND were an embarrassment. I felt MN got a little outfoxed by Jeff Jackson and couldn't come up with an answer to Notre Dame's style of play. The Gophers got bottled up in that game and frustrated by better team play. Let's hope Motzko has a solution for that this weekend. It's his job to figure it out.JoeGopher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07 9:55 amI am all for the comeback and the proverbial off game or off weekend, but how many times does it have to happen? They split with Wisco earlier this year and then got embarrassed by ND. They re-grouped and hammered ASU and tOSU. Then they get even more embarrassed by Wisco, like historically embarrassed and they need to get another chip on their shoulder? The need to re-group once again? They couldn't get up for a series against their #1 rival when 1st place in the B10 is on the line?
Next weekend will be very telling, but ND has been playing .500 since they swept us and they destroyed tOSU worse than we did. This and the Michigan series will likely decide their fate for the NCAAs.
This perfectly articulates how I feel.streakygopher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07 12:16 pmI don't think the losses to ND were an embarrassment. I felt MN got a little outfoxed by Jeff Jackson and couldn't come up with an answer to Notre Dame's style of play. The Gophers got bottled up in that game and frustrated by better team play. Let's hope Motzko has a solution for that this weekend. It's his job to figure it out.JoeGopher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07 9:55 amI am all for the comeback and the proverbial off game or off weekend, but how many times does it have to happen? They split with Wisco earlier this year and then got embarrassed by ND. They re-grouped and hammered ASU and tOSU. Then they get even more embarrassed by Wisco, like historically embarrassed and they need to get another chip on their shoulder? The need to re-group once again? They couldn't get up for a series against their #1 rival when 1st place in the B10 is on the line?
Next weekend will be very telling, but ND has been playing .500 since they swept us and they destroyed tOSU worse than we did. This and the Michigan series will likely decide their fate for the NCAAs.
No team should need to get blown out so they can "re-group." It's pretty obvious to anyone watching last night that Minnesota pretty much gave up early in the second. They couldn't get off the ice fast enough, and it showed. On the sixth goal, for example, Stucker acted like it wasn't in his job description to make any attempt whatsoever to engage the oncoming forward skating who skated unchallenged past the face off circle. To me, the worst part about last night is that it felt like they gave up. Oh, and Gophers' goaltending this weekend SUCKED.
Every team has a throw-away game or two during the season. For Minnesota, last night had better be theirs. They can't let that happen again.
Hockey is a game of momentum. When you let your opponents #1 sniper (Caufield) slip behind the D a couple minutes in for a breakaway goal, its deflating. But the Gophers bounced back & it was 1-1 going into the 3rd. Caufield sniped one & Holloway got loose on another breakaway goal & that was that, they lost the 3rd period & game. On Saturday, taking early penalties & getting behind 2-0 was a BAD way to start out, but Meyers scores a nice goal to make it 2-1, then BADgers respond on a weak goal let in by Laf, momentum is squashed again & things got out of hand after that, particularly because the goaltending was pretty awful all night. Simply have a regroup, learn from what happened and be ready to battle vs the Irish.JDUBBS1280 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07 11:48 amI hear all the points made on the bag skate vs spirited practice discussion and after a night to cool off I agree. No need to wear the team out going into another tough series. However, I am not completely convinced that handling this the way we handled the Notre Dame or North Dakota sweeps is the answer either. A good team should not have to keep learning this lesson. Off nights happen, but this weekend was a complete no-show against a good team who just leap frogged us in the standings. For the life of me, I don’t understand how you come out that flat for this series.
I agree with all this. Gophers are an ultra-talented team, but seem to lack mental toughness. You make your own momentum. Instead of giving up, you fight harder. I don’t see that in this Gopher team, which is what is frustrating.bearpaw28 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07 12:23 pmHockey is a game of momentum. When you let your opponents #1 sniper (Caufield) slip behind the D a couple minutes in for a breakaway goal, its deflating. But the Gophers bounced back & it was 1-1 going into the 3rd. Caufield sniped one & Holloway got loose on another breakaway goal & that was that, they lost the 3rd period & game. On Saturday, taking early penalties & getting behind 2-0 was a BAD way to start out, but Meyers scores a nice goal to make it 2-1, then BADgers respond on a weak goal let in by Laf, momentum is squashed again & things got out of hand after that, particularly because the goaltending was pretty awful all night.JDUBBS1280 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07 11:48 amI hear all the points made on the bag skate vs spirited practice discussion and after a night to cool off I agree. No need to wear the team out going into another tough series. However, I am not completely convinced that handling this the way we handled the Notre Dame or North Dakota sweeps is the answer either. A good team should not have to keep learning this lesson. Off nights happen, but this weekend was a complete no-show against a good team who just leap frogged us in the standings. For the life of me, I don’t understand how you come out that flat for this series.
Ask yourself this: How does a team that, ostensibly, has the best D corps in the league and a Hobey candidate in the net give up 8 goals? To any team? The only explanation is a break down in mental toughness and giving up.JDUBBS1280 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07 12:32 pmI agree with all this. Gophers are an ultra-talented team, but seem to lack mental toughness. You make your own momentum. Instead of giving up, you fight harder. I don’t see that in this Gopher team, which is what is frustrating.bearpaw28 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07 12:23 pmHockey is a game of momentum. When you let your opponents #1 sniper (Caufield) slip behind the D a couple minutes in for a breakaway goal, its deflating. But the Gophers bounced back & it was 1-1 going into the 3rd. Caufield sniped one & Holloway got loose on another breakaway goal & that was that, they lost the 3rd period & game. On Saturday, taking early penalties & getting behind 2-0 was a BAD way to start out, but Meyers scores a nice goal to make it 2-1, then BADgers respond on a weak goal let in by Laf, momentum is squashed again & things got out of hand after that, particularly because the goaltending was pretty awful all night.JDUBBS1280 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07 11:48 amI hear all the points made on the bag skate vs spirited practice discussion and after a night to cool off I agree. No need to wear the team out going into another tough series. However, I am not completely convinced that handling this the way we handled the Notre Dame or North Dakota sweeps is the answer either. A good team should not have to keep learning this lesson. Off nights happen, but this weekend was a complete no-show against a good team who just leap frogged us in the standings. For the life of me, I don’t understand how you come out that flat for this series.
I also think the team came out fairly flat each game, which is why they were coughing up pucks (leading to the breakaways) and taking bad penalties. Again, not sure how you come out flat twice in a big series. It’s disheartening.
You nailed it.streakygopher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07 12:45 pmAsk yourself this: How does a team that, ostensibly, has the best D corps in the league and a Hobey candidate in the net give up 8 goals? To any team? The only explanation is a break down in mental toughness and giving up.JDUBBS1280 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07 12:32 pmI agree with all this. Gophers are an ultra-talented team, but seem to lack mental toughness. You make your own momentum. Instead of giving up, you fight harder. I don’t see that in this Gopher team, which is what is frustrating.bearpaw28 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07 12:23 pmHockey is a game of momentum. When you let your opponents #1 sniper (Caufield) slip behind the D a couple minutes in for a breakaway goal, its deflating. But the Gophers bounced back & it was 1-1 going into the 3rd. Caufield sniped one & Holloway got loose on another breakaway goal & that was that, they lost the 3rd period & game. On Saturday, taking early penalties & getting behind 2-0 was a BAD way to start out, but Meyers scores a nice goal to make it 2-1, then BADgers respond on a weak goal let in by Laf, momentum is squashed again & things got out of hand after that, particularly because the goaltending was pretty awful all night.JDUBBS1280 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07 11:48 amI hear all the points made on the bag skate vs spirited practice discussion and after a night to cool off I agree. No need to wear the team out going into another tough series. However, I am not completely convinced that handling this the way we handled the Notre Dame or North Dakota sweeps is the answer either. A good team should not have to keep learning this lesson. Off nights happen, but this weekend was a complete no-show against a good team who just leap frogged us in the standings. For the life of me, I don’t understand how you come out that flat for this series.
I also think the team came out fairly flat each game, which is why they were coughing up pucks (leading to the breakaways) and taking bad penalties. Again, not sure how you come out flat twice in a big series. It’s disheartening.
Now, that happens in sports. Teams go through the motions when all they really want to do is get the hell off the field or off the ice. I witnessed it last night.
It's just that it's really bad timing to do that at home. Against your arch rival. Twice. Playing your style of game. On your big rink. With the league lead hanging in the balance.
No positive spin here. They blew it.
I know this will sound mean, but I hope it is a miserable and humiliating experience. I know this is amateur hockey, but wearing the M should mean something. I don’t like watching my favorite teams lose, but I hate watching them just quit on the ice. That’s what drives me up a wall.Bladepuller wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07 1:44 pmThe film sessions will, or were, not fun. Sotting with your teammates and having your play be dissected is not fun.
Get Carl Fish out there, somehow. His grit is needed.
I think a film session will be humiliating punishment enough.Bladepuller wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07 1:44 pmThe film sessions will, or were, not fun. Sotting with your teammates and having your play be dissected is not fun.
Get Carl Fish out there, somehow. His grit is needed.
This always cracks me up. If a coach today acted like Herbie did back in the day he wouldn’t have a team left to coach. Times change.
Though not necessarily for the better.
I agree. Another way things have changed is that so much more is known about sports physiology. I doubt that Cal Dietz would appreciate having to fix the damage done by such a stunt.