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Post by frozen4champs » Tue Feb 23 5:38 pm

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Post by upnorthkid » Wed Feb 24 11:32 am

Would we imagine the bids to look about like this? Obviously a ton can change over the next few weeks, but I'm interested to see what people think they'll do roughly, particularly with less teams playing on the East coast this year.

AHA: 1 (AQ)
B10 3 (AQ and 2 at large)
Independents: none
ECAC: 1 (AQ)
HE: 4 (AQ and 3 at large)
NCHC: 4 (AQ and 3 at large)
WCHA: 3 (AQ and 2 at large)

Obviously so much changes pending who the AQs end up being from each conference, but as of right now the USCHO top 20 has the following for ranked teams from each league, which may give an idea of perceived strength:

AHA: 1 (AIC)
B10 3 (MN, WI, MI)
Independents: none
ECAC: 2 (Qunnipiac, Clarkson)
HE: 5 (BC, BU, Mass, NE, Providence)
NCHC: 4 (UND, UMD, St Cloud, Omaha)
WCHA: 5 (Mankato, BG, BSU, LSSU, Mi Tech)

this year is going to be bizarre and I'm very glad the Gophers are well away from the potential cut line

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Post by JDUBBS1280 » Wed Feb 24 3:47 pm

upnorthkid wrote:
Wed Feb 24 11:32 am
Would we imagine the bids to look about like this? Obviously a ton can change over the next few weeks, but I'm interested to see what people think they'll do roughly, particularly with less teams playing on the East coast this year.

AHA: 1 (AQ)
B10 3 (AQ and 2 at large)
Independents: none
ECAC: 1 (AQ)
HE: 4 (AQ and 3 at large)
NCHC: 4 (AQ and 3 at large)
WCHA: 3 (AQ and 2 at large)

Obviously so much changes pending who the AQs end up being from each conference, but as of right now the USCHO top 20 has the following for ranked teams from each league, which may give an idea of perceived strength:

AHA: 1 (AIC)
B10 3 (MN, WI, MI)
Independents: none
ECAC: 2 (Qunnipiac, Clarkson)
HE: 5 (BC, BU, Mass, NE, Providence)
NCHC: 4 (UND, UMD, St Cloud, Omaha)
WCHA: 5 (Mankato, BG, BSU, LSSU, Mi Tech)

this year is going to be bizarre and I'm very glad the Gophers are well away from the potential cut line
Looks about right to me. I don’t see Michigan getting in if a team like Notre Dame wins the tourney. Unless of course they win out in the regular season and aren’t one-and-done in the conference tourney. Then perhaps HE gets one less at large and the Big Ten gets three at larges.
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Post by Magic » Wed Feb 24 5:14 pm

If AIC or Quinnipiac doesnt win their league tournaments a quality team will get left out
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Post by Magic » Wed Feb 24 5:16 pm

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Wed Feb 24 5:14 pm
My early picks (barring any major tourney upsets.
Atlantic: AIC
B10: Gophers, Wisconsin, Michigan
ECAC: Quinnipiac
HE: BC BU UMass
NCHC: North Dakota, St Cloud, Duluth, Omaha
WCHA: Mankato, Bowling Green, Lake St, Bemidji St
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Post by upnorthkid » Thu Feb 25 8:56 am

Magic wrote:
Wed Feb 24 5:16 pm
Magic wrote:
Wed Feb 24 5:14 pm
My early picks (barring any major tourney upsets.
Atlantic: AIC
B10: Gophers, Wisconsin, Michigan
ECAC: Quinnipiac
HE: BC BU UMass
NCHC: North Dakota, St Cloud, Duluth, Omaha
WCHA: Mankato, Bowling Green, Lake St, Bemidji St
*maybe Northeastern edging out one of the WCHA teams
I'd be surprised if at this juncture they gave 4 to the NCHC and WCHA. That would be a pretty heavy Western spread of teams and could see the committee trying to balance that more (not saying it's right, just saying I could see that happening). Would agree with NE taking a spot from either LSSU or BSU

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Post by Steve MN » Thu Feb 25 9:09 am

I can't imagine WCHA getting more than 3 teams in. NCHC I can see getting 4.
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Post by upnorthkid » Thu Feb 25 11:38 am

An interesting post from USCHO on them starting to put together their bracket predictions

https://www.uscho.com/2021/02/24/bracke ... ournament/

Jim Connelly- more uses metrics, etc as per previous years
Minnesota State-WCHA
Boston College-HE
Minnesota-B10
North Dakota-NCHC
Boston University-HE
Quinnipiac-ECAC
Massachusetts-HE
St. Cloud-NCHC
Wisconsin-B10
Michigan-B10
AIC-AHA
Bemidji State-WCHA
Connecticut- HE; technically below 500 so as of now cannot be in
Providence-HE
Minnesota Duluth-NCHC
Omaha-NCHC

Jayson Moy- uses a premise of max of 3 teams from any conference with every conference getting at least 2 bids and then using win % to compare remaining teams
AIC-AHA
Army-AHA
Robert Morris-AHA
Minnesota-B10
Wisconsin-B10
Quinnipiac-ECAC
Clarkson-ECAC
Boston College-HE
Boston University-HE
Massachusetts-HE
North Dakota-NCHC
St. Cloud-NCHC
Omaha-NCHC
Minnesota State-WCHA
Lake Superior-WCHA
Bemidji State-WCHA

Bids per conference
Connelly
AHA: 1 (AQ)
B10 3 (AQ and 2 at large)
Independents: none
ECAC: 1 (AQ)
HE: 5 (AQ and 4 at large)
NCHC: 4 (AQ and 3 at large)
WCHA: 2 (AQ and 1 at large)

Moy
AHA: 3 (AQ and 2 at large)
B10 2 (AQ and 1 at large)
Independents: none
ECAC: 2 (AQ and 1 at large)
HE: 3 (AQ and 2 at large)
NCHC: 3 (AQ and 2 at large)
WCHA: 3 (AQ and 2 at large)

The Moy bracket looks disgusting but interesting they have completely different metrics

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Post by Bonin21 » Thu Feb 25 11:39 am

The Moy one is not worth anyone's time.
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Post by Steve MN » Thu Feb 25 11:57 am

Like the guys were saying last night on the Podcast stream... Moy usually does such a great job predicting the seeding/pairings, it's a surprise he seems to be so far off this time. I know that the actual FIELD is easy enough to figure out normally from the PWR results after the championship games Saturday night, but the way he's almost always exactly on with what moves from a "pure" bracket are going to be made is a bit tricky.

Why he's assuming Max 3 Min 2, I just don't understand. I could easily see ECAC or especially AHA only getting 1 in. Certainly no reason to put THREE AHA teams in. 2, maybe AIC + Tournament champ. I'm not certain AIC should get in if they don't win the Tournament, but I can see an argument for that. No way anyone else from AHA deserves an at-large, though. Sorry, AHA, you're just not that good of a conference yet.
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Post by frozen4champs » Thu Feb 25 12:02 pm

I agree that Moy's one that he put out is like throwing darts. His final one he puts out after the conference tourneys is usually spot on. On a side note, the guy that NHL radio has on to talk college hockey is a complete moron. His name is Bernie Corbett. He has a segment once a week and is full of more disinformation than facts. He is the typical east coast hockey guy based in Boston, and thinks the only good teams every year are the Boston teams and the Whioux. He said no teams are dealing with covid issues now ( incorrect ). Last week said the B1G tourney was 2 weekends and campus sites. A basic internet search would serve him well.

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Post by upnorthkid » Thu Feb 25 12:11 pm

Steve MN wrote:
Thu Feb 25 11:57 am
Like the guys were saying last night on the Podcast stream... Moy usually does such a great job predicting the seeding/pairings, it's a surprise he seems to be so far off this time. I know that the actual FIELD is easy enough to figure out normally from the PWR results after the championship games Saturday night, but the way he's almost always exactly on with what moves from a "pure" bracket are going to be made is a bit tricky.

Why he's assuming Max 3 Min 2, I just don't understand. I could easily see ECAC or especially AHA only getting 1 in. Certainly no reason to put THREE AHA teams in. 2, maybe AIC + Tournament champ. I'm not certain AIC should get in if they don't win the Tournament, but I can see an argument for that. No way anyone else from AHA deserves an at-large, though. Sorry, AHA, you're just not that good of a conference yet.
That's why I included it. He usually does such a good job, I was very surprised to see this bracket out of him. Will be shocked if it plays out the way he is thinking and man that would be real ugly to see the B10 get 2 and AHA get 3 in.

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upnorthkid wrote:
Thu Feb 25 12:11 pm
Steve MN wrote:
Thu Feb 25 11:57 am
Like the guys were saying last night on the Podcast stream... Moy usually does such a great job predicting the seeding/pairings, it's a surprise he seems to be so far off this time. I know that the actual FIELD is easy enough to figure out normally from the PWR results after the championship games Saturday night, but the way he's almost always exactly on with what moves from a "pure" bracket are going to be made is a bit tricky.

Why he's assuming Max 3 Min 2, I just don't understand. I could easily see ECAC or especially AHA only getting 1 in. Certainly no reason to put THREE AHA teams in. 2, maybe AIC + Tournament champ. I'm not certain AIC should get in if they don't win the Tournament, but I can see an argument for that. No way anyone else from AHA deserves an at-large, though. Sorry, AHA, you're just not that good of a conference yet.
That's why I included it. He usually does such a good job, I was very surprised to see this bracket out of him. Will be shocked if it plays out the way he is thinking and man that would be real ugly to see the B10 get 2 and AHA get 3 in.
The only scenario I can see that happening is if they decide to essentially say 8 eastern teams and 8 western teams, with no cross-over until the Frozen 4. But that would mean completely :censored: one of the top 4 teams in the country to do so.
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Post by JDUBBS1280 » Thu Feb 25 12:55 pm

upnorthkid wrote:
Thu Feb 25 11:38 am
An interesting post from USCHO on them starting to put together their bracket predictions

https://www.uscho.com/2021/02/24/bracke ... ournament/

Jim Connelly- more uses metrics, etc as per previous years
Minnesota State-WCHA
Boston College-HE
Minnesota-B10
North Dakota-NCHC
Boston University-HE
Quinnipiac-ECAC
Massachusetts-HE
St. Cloud-NCHC
Wisconsin-B10
Michigan-B10
AIC-AHA
Bemidji State-WCHA
Connecticut- HE; technically below 500 so as of now cannot be in
Providence-HE
Minnesota Duluth-NCHC
Omaha-NCHC

Jayson Moy- uses a premise of max of 3 teams from any conference with every conference getting at least 2 bids and then using win % to compare remaining teams
AIC-AHA
Army-AHA
Robert Morris-AHA
Minnesota-B10
Wisconsin-B10
Quinnipiac-ECAC
Clarkson-ECAC
Boston College-HE
Boston University-HE
Massachusetts-HE
North Dakota-NCHC
St. Cloud-NCHC
Omaha-NCHC
Minnesota State-WCHA
Lake Superior-WCHA
Bemidji State-WCHA

Bids per conference
Connelly
AHA: 1 (AQ)
B10 3 (AQ and 2 at large)
Independents: none
ECAC: 1 (AQ)
HE: 5 (AQ and 4 at large)
NCHC: 4 (AQ and 3 at large)
WCHA: 2 (AQ and 1 at large)

Moy
AHA: 3 (AQ and 2 at large)
B10 2 (AQ and 1 at large)
Independents: none
ECAC: 2 (AQ and 1 at large)
HE: 3 (AQ and 2 at large)
NCHC: 3 (AQ and 2 at large)
WCHA: 3 (AQ and 2 at large)

The Moy bracket looks disgusting but interesting they have completely different metrics
The Moy one is idiotic. Hate to be harsh, but it is ridiculous. The AHA getting more bids this year than the B10 is laughable.
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Post by Steve MN » Thu Feb 25 12:59 pm

Agreed. But, he definitely seems to be looking at the tournament as 8 east/8 west with no cross-over in the regionals
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Even if it were 8+8, two more HE teams would be in over Army and RMU.
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The merger of the Bischoff and McLaughlin families a decade ago was born out of tragedy. But from their blended clans have come a quartet of NCAA Division I hockey players, the most recent of whom has re-discovered his scoring touch for the Minnesota Gophers in 2021.

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Post by Steve MN » Thu Feb 25 1:16 pm

Bonin21 wrote:
Thu Feb 25 1:01 pm
Even if it were 8+8, two more HE teams would be in over Army and RMU.
He seems to be going with the idea that, with no inter-conference play to speak of, we can't say one conference is better than another, so, balance them out. To which I say BS. We can certainly look at past history to see that AHA has NEVER had 3 teams in. Why would you suddenly think they should this year? 2, maybe, but AIC is the only team in AHA that's even a reasonable argument for an at-large.
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Thu Feb 25 1:08 pm
https://www.therinklive.com/big-10/um-g ... BY.twitter

From a blended family with 'U' roots, Blake McLaughlin is the Gophers' smiling sniper
The merger of the Bischoff and McLaughlin families a decade ago was born out of tragedy. But from their blended clans have come a quartet of NCAA Division I hockey players, the most recent of whom has re-discovered his scoring touch for the Minnesota Gophers in 2021.

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Steve MN wrote:
Thu Feb 25 1:16 pm
Bonin21 wrote:
Thu Feb 25 1:01 pm
Even if it were 8+8, two more HE teams would be in over Army and RMU.
He seems to be going with the idea that, with no inter-conference play to speak of, we can't say one conference is better than another, so, balance them out. To which I say BS. We can certainly look at past history to see that AHA has NEVER had 3 teams in. Why would you suddenly think they should this year? 2, maybe, but AIC is the only team in AHA that's even a reasonable argument for an at-large.
Couldn't agree more. These teams didn't magically become better comparatively because the season is weird.

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Post by SkiUMahLaw » Thu Feb 25 2:35 pm

I haven't looked, but college hockey already had an exemption to allow a 16-team tournament (the NCAA's own standards say, based on the number of participants, that there should be only 12), and we have lost 15 or so schools to COVID for the season. Are we guaranteed to have a 16 team tournament and not a 12-team tournament?

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Even if it were 8+8, two more HE teams would be in over Army and RMU.
Exactly. I see no plausible scenario at all were the ACA gets three teams in the tourney.
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Steve MN wrote:
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I can't imagine WCHA getting more than 3 teams in. NCHC I can see getting 4.
I think they will balance east and west. 8 teams each. For no good reason— just because.

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Post by Bonin21 » Thu Feb 25 3:31 pm

If you want 8 west teams I don't see an argument for anyone other than:
UND
Mankato
UMN
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Omaha
SCSU
Michigan
Duluth

Side note those regionals would be insane.
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Post by Steve MN » Thu Feb 25 3:49 pm

yeah... 7 or 8 of the top 10 teams all in two regions?
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To be the best you've got to beat the best
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To be the best you've got to beat the best
Unless you're one of the top two teams in the east, in which case you get a free pass your first game, and an easy second game.
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Composer wrote:
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I can't imagine WCHA getting more than 3 teams in. NCHC I can see getting 4.
I think they will balance east and west. 8 teams each. For no good reason— just because.
I agree, and it will be justly ridiculed.
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Post by gopherfun83 » Thu Feb 25 8:54 pm

There will be at least a couple of unexpected teams winning their tourney, so the final 16 will be interesting.

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Post by gopher6 » Fri Feb 26 9:03 am

So next weeks games vs the ugly helmets will more fans be allowed in to games?

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So next weeks games vs the ugly helmets will more fans be allowed in to games?
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I haven't looked, but college hockey already had an exemption to allow a 16-team tournament (the NCAA's own standards say, based on the number of participants, that there should be only 12), and we have lost 15 or so schools to COVID for the season. Are we guaranteed to have a 16 team tournament and not a 12-team tournament?
It should be at most 12 every year, but nothing is more important to the NCAA than being able to grift some cash and a free meal out of four C-list cities every year. We're guaranteed 16 teams this year.

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Post by Cowgirl » Sat Feb 27 8:55 pm

Hey numbers geeks - based on this weekends results, what now has to happen for us to win the conference next weekend (ie other scenarios besides winning out of course)?

Thanks!

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If WI goes 2-0, MN must go 1-0-1.
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Post by frozen4champs » Mon Mar 01 2:46 pm

Let's hope for a similar result this weekend to win the B1G. What a great memory and was at the game and it was loud. Sacchetti was on the PP because Bjugstad was in the penalty box.

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Post by thinkbui » Mon Mar 01 3:01 pm

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Let's hope for a similar result this weekend to win the B1G. What a great memory and was at the game and it was loud. Sacchetti was on the PP because Bjugstad was in the penalty box.
IIRC Bjugstad was in the box serving an extra minor that was off the board and had just expired, so some were surprised when he seemed to come out of nowhere during the goal celebration.
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Post by frozen4champs » Mon Mar 01 3:12 pm

thinkbui wrote:
Mon Mar 01 3:01 pm
frozen4champs wrote:
Mon Mar 01 2:46 pm
Let's hope for a similar result this weekend to win the B1G. What a great memory and was at the game and it was loud. Sacchetti was on the PP because Bjugstad was in the penalty box.
IIRC Bjugstad was in the box serving an extra minor that was off the board and had just expired, so some were surprised when he seemed to come out of nowhere during the goal celebration.
Correct. When I got home, I watched the replay on TV and Woog was upset a few seconds before this happened because the Gophers were off side on the entry and there were a few seconds left on the penalty time for Bjugstad. He said he would have been less mad if the off side would have freed him.

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Bill Baker from Grand Rapids became a dentist.

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Norm wrote:
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Bill Baker from Grand Rapids became a dentist.
Didn't Lou Nanne come to the U in part to become a dentist or is my memory fading? He then changed his major. :confused2:

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Cowgirl wrote:
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Hey numbers geeks - based on this weekends results, what now has to happen for us to win the conference next weekend (ie other scenarios besides winning out of course)?

Thanks!
The "magic number" is still 1.5 - a combination of Gopher wins and Wisconsin non-wins (with ties counting for 0.5 of a win and 0.5 of a non-win).

Regulation and OT wins count as a full win. Regulation and OT losses count as a full loss. Any shootout result counts as a tie.

So, Gophers go 1-0-1 or better to secure the title. Gophers can split if Wisconsin doesn't sweep.
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Post by Steve MN » Tue Mar 02 11:09 am

Eckes wrote:
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Cowgirl wrote:
Sat Feb 27 8:55 pm
Hey numbers geeks - based on this weekends results, what now has to happen for us to win the conference next weekend (ie other scenarios besides winning out of course)?

Thanks!
The "magic number" is still 1.5 - a combination of Gopher wins and Wisconsin non-wins (with ties counting for 0.5 of a win and 0.5 of a non-win).

Regulation and OT wins count as a full win. Regulation and OT losses count as a full loss. Any shootout result counts as a tie.

So, Gophers go 1-0-1 or better to secure the title. Gophers can split if Wisconsin doesn't sweep.
I really don't see Wisconsin dropping a game to MSU, but it is at Munn, and we all know how flaky hockey can be. So, Go Sparty!
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Post by Iceburg » Tue Mar 02 11:20 am

frozen4champs wrote:
Tue Mar 02 10:40 am
Norm wrote:
Tue Mar 02 9:38 am
Bill Baker from Grand Rapids became a dentist.
Didn't Lou Nanne come to the U in part to become a dentist or is my memory fading? He then changed his major. :confused2:
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Post by Zwak » Tue Mar 02 11:31 am

Iceburg wrote:
Tue Mar 02 11:20 am
frozen4champs wrote:
Tue Mar 02 10:40 am
Norm wrote:
Tue Mar 02 9:38 am
Bill Baker from Grand Rapids became a dentist.
Didn't Lou Nanne come to the U in part to become a dentist or is my memory fading? He then changed his major. :confused2:
Yes, that’s the way I remember the story also.
I think Lou has a son that is a dentist too.

Edit: My apologies. His son Michael was a DDS but he passed away in 2012.
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Post by Vegoe » Tue Mar 02 11:43 am

frozen4champs wrote:
Tue Mar 02 10:40 am
Norm wrote:
Tue Mar 02 9:38 am
Bill Baker from Grand Rapids became a dentist.
Didn't Lou Nanne come to the U in part to become a dentist or is my memory fading? He then changed his major. :confused2:
Yes... becoming a dentist kept him from considering North Dakota and a frog dissection gone wrong sent him on the business path.

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Norm wrote:
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Bill Baker from Grand Rapids became a dentist.
My dentist a very good looking dentist who who was a high school Home coming queen in 1976 was a former girlfriend of Bill Baker

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Somewhat surprising that the years of Parise, Toews, Zajac, Duncan, Oshie, Stafford, and more didn't get a single slot on the all decade team.

I'm not arguing for any of them, just the idea that they produced so many good players.

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JC65 wrote:
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Doc Holliday wrote:
Tue Mar 02 12:19 pm
Somewhat surprising that the years of Parise, Toews, Zajac, Duncan, Oshie, Stafford, and more didn't get a single slot on the all decade team.

I'm not arguing for any of them, just the idea that they produced so many good players.
Great players, but Duncan is the only one of those guys who stayed for 4 years.

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Jaykay3 wrote:
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Tue Mar 02 12:57 pm
Doc Holliday wrote:
Tue Mar 02 12:19 pm
Somewhat surprising that the years of Parise, Toews, Zajac, Duncan, Oshie, Stafford, and more didn't get a single slot on the all decade team.

I'm not arguing for any of them, just the idea that they produced so many good players.
Great players, but Duncan is the only one of those guys who stayed for 4 years.
Yes, I think that should count for something. Vanek is also notably missing. Speaking of which, did he officially retire?

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Yes, I think that should count for something. Vanek is also notably missing. Speaking of which, did he officially retire?
Yes he officially retired last February

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Looks like total points + 4 years was the big factor. Duncan should be there over Sterling at the least.

Also had options like Sejna and Lessard. What a conference.
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Sejna did make it.

Lessard & Duncan were the two that I thought could be there, but I don't think it was a huge injustice with the ones that they went with.
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Doc Holliday wrote:
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Sejna did make it.

Lessard & Duncan were the two that I thought could be there, but I don't think it was a huge injustice with the ones that they went with.
Oops, Sertich would be the other one, then. Temporary dyslexia
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I don’t know, was Duncan really that good? I don’t recall him being anyone other than cleaning up what others did.
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I don’t know, was Duncan really that good? I don’t recall him being anyone other than cleaning up what others did.
I mean, he won the Hobey...
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I don’t know, was Duncan really that good? I don’t recall him being anyone other than cleaning up what others did.
I mean, he won the Hobey...
Wasn't he a guy that didn't play much defense?

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I don’t know, was Duncan really that good? I don’t recall him being anyone other than cleaning up what others did.
I mean, he won the Hobey...
Doesn’t mean he was all decade of a complete hockey player. I know these threads don’t go that far back but it was a common gripe about the kid on this site too.

EDIT: looking at his career since leaving UND, I guess he could be considered all-decade in Salzburg Germany...
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Bonin21 wrote:
Tue Mar 02 3:37 pm
Looks like total points + 4 years was the big factor. Duncan should be there over Sterling at the least.

Also had options like Sejna and Lessard. What a conference.
Sterling earned his spot over Duncan. A more complete player than Duncan. Much better skater too.

Sterling had 108 goals to Duncan's 85 goals. Both played four seasons. Sterling - 149gp. Duncan - 175gp

Sterling's goals per game were .725. Duncan's was .486.

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How about over Sertich and Lessard? Hobey has to count for something...
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This will agitate some.

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Well it's 2000s not 2010s. Who would it agitate? Denver fans?
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How about over Sertich and Lessard? Hobey has to count for something...
The Hobey is a seasonal recognition and can be/is pretty political. In that regard it isn't as important to how I would look at a player's worthiness for an All Decade team.

Despite the fact that Duncan won a Hobey, even most Whioux fans thought he was the third best player on the team that season.

I always thought Lessard was an OK selection for the Hobey. I'd take Bochensky or Parise over Lessard for Hobey in 2004. Lessard didn't have a good enough career at UMD to even catch a whiff of an All Decade team.

Even though Sertich won a Hobey I think Sterling was the better player over their four years at CC. They were a great 1-2 punch.

I'd take Sertich over Duncan and Lessard.

I'd even take Troy Riddle over Duncan and Lessard. Two National Championships trumps a Hobey in my book. Iron Man, never missed a game and put up 177 pts. :dup: Riddle had everything you'd want in a college player. He could skate like the wind, had a great shot, consistently productive, tough as nails, durable, and he was a winner.
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Well it's 2000s not 2010s. Who would it agitate? Denver fans?
You'd have to ask Hartzell and folks who think like him. tDon certainly deserves a bunch of criticism, but they always wanted to delegitimize his taking a program that missed the Tournament multiple years in a row to winning it all back to back.
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Post by Cowgirl » Wed Mar 03 1:56 pm

Maybe we need a thread titled “Pre 2020-2021 Gopher Hockey season thread.” ;)

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thinkbui wrote:
Wed Mar 03 1:45 pm
Bonin21 wrote:
Wed Mar 03 12:42 pm
Well it's 2000s not 2010s. Who would it agitate? Denver fans?
You'd have to ask Hartzell and folks who think like him. tDon certainly deserves a bunch of criticism, but they always wanted to delegitimize his taking a program that missed the Tournament multiple years in a row to winning it all back to back.
Not sure who other than Denver fans would really have an argument:

Seasons ending 2000-09
Lucia: 2 regular season championships, 3 playoff titles, 2 National Championships
Gwozdecki: 2 regular season championships (one shared with CC), 3 playoff titles, 2 National Championships
Blais (5 years): 2 regular season, 1 playoff title, 1 National Championship
Owens: 3 regular season championships (1 shared with DU)

Who else is even possibly in the discussion?
Sauer had 1 regular season title in his 3 years, and Eaves had 1 National Championship in his 7
Hakstol had 1 regular season title, 1 playoff title in 5 years
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Post by thinkbui » Wed Mar 03 3:46 pm

Steve MN wrote:
Wed Mar 03 2:04 pm
thinkbui wrote:
Wed Mar 03 1:45 pm
Bonin21 wrote:
Wed Mar 03 12:42 pm
Well it's 2000s not 2010s. Who would it agitate? Denver fans?
You'd have to ask Hartzell and folks who think like him. tDon certainly deserves a bunch of criticism, but they always wanted to delegitimize his taking a program that missed the Tournament multiple years in a row to winning it all back to back.
Not sure who other than Denver fans would really have an argument:

Seasons ending 2000-09
Lucia: 2 regular season championships, 3 playoff titles, 2 National Championships
Gwozdecki: 2 regular season championships (one shared with CC), 3 playoff titles, 2 National Championships
Blais (5 years): 2 regular season, 1 playoff title, 1 National Championship
Owens: 3 regular season championships (1 shared with DU)

Who else is even possibly in the discussion?
Sauer had 1 regular season title in his 3 years, and Eaves had 1 National Championship in his 7
Hakstol had 1 regular season title, 1 playoff title in 5 years
Yeah, I don't know about now, but while tDon was still coach, Kevin Hartzell's ilk would have argued that Gwoz should have gotten this honor.
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It's definitely a close call between tDon and Gwoz. I can't honestly say that Lucia is at all the clear choice between the two, but it would be hard to come up with a good reason to say Gwoz would be either.
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Re: 2020-2021 Gopher Hockey Season Thread - Year 100 of Pride On Ice

Post by frozen4champs » Thu Mar 04 11:00 am

The B1G bracket and times. The Gophers scenarios are the same as the BADgers. So either 3pm on Sunday or 3:30 on Monday.

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Re: 2020-2021 Gopher Hockey Season Thread - Year 100 of Pride On Ice

Post by Bonin21 » Thu Mar 04 11:02 am

Alright Gophers, make me block my calendar Monday afternoon
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Re: 2020-2021 Gopher Hockey Season Thread - Year 100 of Pride On Ice

Post by frozen4champs » Thu Mar 04 2:13 pm

Back to back players of the decade for Gophers defensemen

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Re: 2020-2021 Gopher Hockey Season Thread - Year 100 of Pride On Ice

Post by MNGophers29 » Thu Mar 04 3:14 pm

Steve MN wrote:
Wed Mar 03 3:51 pm
It's definitely a close call between tDon and Gwoz. I can't honestly say that Lucia is at all the clear choice between the two, but it would be hard to come up with a good reason to say Gwoz would be either.
Remember this game against UND in Grand Forks. He gets tossed and then I believe called his assistant on the bench from the locker room or the tunnel. UND fans were beside themselves! I was watching it live for some reason and to me, this tips the scale in his favor! :biggrin2:
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Re: 2020-2021 Gopher Hockey Season Thread - Year 100 of Pride On Ice

Post by 5 O.T. » Thu Mar 04 4:48 pm

MNGophers29 wrote:
Thu Mar 04 3:14 pm
Steve MN wrote:
Wed Mar 03 3:51 pm
It's definitely a close call between tDon and Gwoz. I can't honestly say that Lucia is at all the clear choice between the two, but it would be hard to come up with a good reason to say Gwoz would be either.
Remember this game against UND in Grand Forks. He gets tossed and then I believe called his assistant on the bench from the locker room or the tunnel. UND fans were beside themselves! I was watching it live for some reason and to me, this tips the scale in his favor! :biggrin2:
I remember watching that game too. Some great teams during that period with a lot of hard nosed hockey. :club: :blackeye:


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Re: 2020-2021 Gopher Hockey Season Thread - Year 100 of Pride On Ice

Post by The Rube » Thu Mar 04 9:23 pm

That was hilarious when he did that.
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Re: 2020-2021 Gopher Hockey Season Thread - Year 100 of Pride On Ice

Post by streakygopher » Fri Mar 05 7:51 am

5 O.T. wrote:
Wed Mar 03 11:50 am
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Tue Mar 02 3:37 pm
Looks like total points + 4 years was the big factor. Duncan should be there over Sterling at the least.

Also had options like Sejna and Lessard. What a conference.
Sterling earned his spot over Duncan. A more complete player than Duncan. Much better skater too.

Sterling had 108 goals to Duncan's 85 goals. Both played four seasons. Sterling - 149gp. Duncan - 175gp

Sterling's goals per game were .725. Duncan's was .486.

Sterling - 108g 76a - 184 PPG - 1.23
Duncan - 85g - 87a - 172 PPG - .982
I agree with this analysis. Without poring over stats and going from memory, as a fan of the Gophers I always feared Sterling more than Duncan. As I recall, Sterling was a more complete player and was a tougher player. CC had some killer teams back then. Duncan was a very good college player but a little more one dimensional.

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