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Post by gator » Wed Jun 23 9:30 am

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The Wolves didn't land in the top 3 of the lottery so the Warriors get the pick. #7 overall.
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Post by Don Adams Wheel of Justice » Wed Jun 23 10:53 am

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Wed Jun 23 7:14 am
The Wolves didn't land in the top 3 of the lottery so the Warriors get the pick. #7 overall.
On the bright side, I've heard the draft is only 6 players deep so pick #7 is an even bigger crapshoot. I'd feel way worse if we had to give the #4 pick to Golden State.

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Post by Greyeagle » Wed Jun 23 10:58 am

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Post by gator » Wed Jun 23 11:40 am

I heard on the Power Trip this morning that last nights LAC/PHX game. The last 1:30 seconds took over 30 actual minutes.
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Post by bearpaw28 » Wed Jun 23 11:46 am

gator wrote:
Wed Jun 23 11:40 am
I heard on the Power Trip this morning that last nights LAC/PHX game. The last 1:30 seconds took over 30 actual minutes.
That’s one of the many reasons why I don’t watch the NBA until the Finals.

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Post by Beauner » Wed Jun 23 11:58 am

gator wrote:
Wed Jun 23 11:40 am
I heard on the Power Trip this morning that last nights LAC/PHX game. The last 1:30 seconds took over 30 actual minutes.
The last 9.2 seconds (I shut off my xbox right when the big play when Beverly tipped the ball and it was still touching Booker's hand after Beverly tipped it so it was out of bounds on Booker). Between that review, then the foul on Paul George and his 2 missed FTs, followed by a Phoenix timeout, followed by a missed 3pt shot tipped OB followed by another lengthy review to determine it was still Phoenix ball, followed by the alley oop to Ayton and another lengthy review to reset the clock... it was about 17 minutes to play 9 seconds.
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Post by Beauner » Wed Jun 23 12:12 pm

Don Adams Wheel of Justice wrote:
Wed Jun 23 10:53 am
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Wed Jun 23 7:14 am
The Wolves didn't land in the top 3 of the lottery so the Warriors get the pick. #7 overall.
On the bright side, I've heard the draft is only 6 players deep so pick #7 is an even bigger crapshoot. I'd feel way worse if we had to give the #4 pick to Golden State.
Yeah pretty much. Winning as much as they did down the stretch bumped their odds to getting a top 4 pick to not very good.
There are going to be some decent options available at 7 but not super likely to have a huge impact immediately.

Cunningham, Mobley, Green, and Suggs figure to be top 4 (probably in that order).
5-6-7 will probably be some combination of Scottie Barnes (Florida State), Jonathan Kuminga (G League Ignite), and Jalen Johnson (Duke).
Kuminga is the big wildcard. He was the #1 rated recruit in his class before reclassifying and going to the G League where he did not play very well.
Barnes is a sketchy shooter, especially from outside, but he's a high level defender on the wing and a very good passer.
Johnson was the guy I am most intrigued by. He's a pretty good ball handler and has good defensive abilities. If he can develop an outside shot, Golden State would be a great fit.
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Post by Steve MN » Wed Jun 23 1:01 pm

bearpaw28 wrote:
Wed Jun 23 11:46 am
gator wrote:
Wed Jun 23 11:40 am
I heard on the Power Trip this morning that last nights LAC/PHX game. The last 1:30 seconds took over 30 actual minutes.
That’s one of the many reasons why I don’t watch the NBA until the Finals.
Easier with my edit ;)
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Post by Maize » Wed Jun 23 1:53 pm

Beauner wrote:
Wed Jun 23 7:14 am
The Wolves didn't land in the top 3 of the lottery so the Warriors get the pick. #7 overall.
At least they get to keep next year's pick, so I'm sure they'll come out ahead in the deal.

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Post by bearpaw28 » Wed Jun 23 1:57 pm

Steve MN wrote:
Wed Jun 23 1:01 pm
bearpaw28 wrote:
Wed Jun 23 11:46 am
gator wrote:
Wed Jun 23 11:40 am
I heard on the Power Trip this morning that last nights LAC/PHX game. The last 1:30 seconds took over 30 actual minutes.
That’s one of the many reasons why I don’t watch the NBA until the Finals.
Easier with my edit ;)
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Post by Border Gopher » Wed Jun 23 3:10 pm

Maize wrote:
Wed Jun 23 1:53 pm
Beauner wrote:
Wed Jun 23 7:14 am
The Wolves didn't land in the top 3 of the lottery so the Warriors get the pick. #7 overall.
At least they get to keep next year's pick, so I'm sure they'll come out ahead in the deal.
Glass half-full I see. :dup:
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I'm not all that excited about any of Edwards/Ball/Wiseman. I'm sure the Wolves would love to trade down, but it's almost impossible to do. Of the three, I guess Ball if I had to pick. My gut feeling is that it will be a replay of last year where they try to trade down, can't do it, then throw their hands up and take another shooting guard in Edwards that doesn't amount to much.

The guy I probably like the most is Tyrese Hailiburton, but if they can't trade down--and Hailburton has risen enough that there are fewer options to do so--I'm not sure they'll have the balls to go that off the board with their pick.
By the by, anybody want to take a guess at which two players from last year's draft finished tied for first in Value Over Replacement Player out of their draft class, way ahead of anyone else, and which player finished 44th out of the 55 drafted players that played last year?

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Post by YoungEagle » Wed Jun 23 3:41 pm

I have to say the Valley-Oop (I think that’s what they’re calling it) was sick.
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Post by Bigbeer » Sat Jun 26 11:07 pm

Believe it or not, old school defensive battle in game 4 of the PHO/LAC series. Looked like a Bulls/Jordan playoff game. Unfortunately some bad missed calls by the refs but some wild situations in the last minute.
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Post by Bertogliat » Mon Jun 28 9:47 am

Maize wrote:
Wed Jun 23 3:38 pm
Maize wrote:
Tue Nov 17 11:11 am
I'm not all that excited about any of Edwards/Ball/Wiseman. I'm sure the Wolves would love to trade down, but it's almost impossible to do. Of the three, I guess Ball if I had to pick. My gut feeling is that it will be a replay of last year where they try to trade down, can't do it, then throw their hands up and take another shooting guard in Edwards that doesn't amount to much.

The guy I probably like the most is Tyrese Hailiburton, but if they can't trade down--and Hailburton has risen enough that there are fewer options to do so--I'm not sure they'll have the balls to go that off the board with their pick.
By the by, anybody want to take a guess at which two players from last year's draft finished tied for first in Value Over Replacement Player out of their draft class, way ahead of anyone else, and which player finished 44th out of the 55 drafted players that played last year?
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Maize wrote:
Wed Jun 23 3:38 pm
Maize wrote:
Tue Nov 17 11:11 am
I'm not all that excited about any of Edwards/Ball/Wiseman. I'm sure the Wolves would love to trade down, but it's almost impossible to do. Of the three, I guess Ball if I had to pick. My gut feeling is that it will be a replay of last year where they try to trade down, can't do it, then throw their hands up and take another shooting guard in Edwards that doesn't amount to much.

The guy I probably like the most is Tyrese Hailiburton, but if they can't trade down--and Hailburton has risen enough that there are fewer options to do so--I'm not sure they'll have the balls to go that off the board with their pick.
By the by, anybody want to take a guess at which two players from last year's draft finished tied for first in Value Over Replacement Player out of their draft class, way ahead of anyone else, and which player finished 44th out of the 55 drafted players that played last year?
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Post by Bigbeer » Tue Jun 29 9:25 pm

This game is REALLY not going well for the Bucks
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Post by Laxref » Mon Jul 05 10:53 am

I know there is way more to it but I’ll stand by my statement, if the Milwaukee Bucks can make the finals the Wolves have no excuses.

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Post by Bertogliat » Mon Jul 05 11:01 am

Laxref wrote:
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I know there is way more to it but I’ll stand by my statement, if the Milwaukee Bucks can make the finals the Wolves have no excuses.
It’s been 47 years since their last Finals appearance.

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Post by Laxref » Mon Jul 05 11:47 am

Bertogliat wrote:
Mon Jul 05 11:01 am
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I know there is way more to it but I’ll stand by my statement, if the Milwaukee Bucks can make the finals the Wolves have no excuses.
It’s been 47 years since their last Finals appearance.
They still have been one of the three most consistent teams in the league last handful of seasons, have their star locked in for many years, have built a supporting cast around him, have a state of the art arena, have the now mandatory outside the arena area where fans gather and add to the atmosphere. I just think so many believe Minnesota will never be a spot that will succeed in the NBA, I disagree, it’s been much more about mismanagement of the Wolves than location, and the Bucks are proving that making good decisions will lead you somewhere in the NBA, location be damned.

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Post by Bertogliat » Mon Jul 05 12:27 pm

Laxref wrote:
Mon Jul 05 11:47 am
Bertogliat wrote:
Mon Jul 05 11:01 am
Laxref wrote:
Mon Jul 05 10:53 am
I know there is way more to it but I’ll stand by my statement, if the Milwaukee Bucks can make the finals the Wolves have no excuses.
It’s been 47 years since their last Finals appearance.
They still have been one of the three most consistent teams in the league last handful of seasons, have their star locked in for many years, have built a supporting cast around him, have a state of the art arena, have the now mandatory outside the arena area where fans gather and add to the atmosphere. I just think so many believe Minnesota will never be a spot that will succeed in the NBA, I disagree, it’s been much more about mismanagement of the Wolves than location, and the Bucks are proving that making good decisions will lead you somewhere in the NBA, location be damned.
OKC thought the same thing.

Locking up a star in the NBA is not really a thing. If Kevin Garnett or Jimmy Butler want out, they seem to get their way.

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Post by Bigbeer » Sat Jul 17 10:27 pm

Stellar Finals game 5, somehow high scoring but also with great defense....earning every point
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Post by Bigbeer » Sat Jul 17 10:38 pm

Milwaukee is gonna be tough to beat if Holliday gives them 27 & 13 but the Suns made it close
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Post by Bigbeer » Tue Jul 20 9:22 pm

Giannis somehow steps up his game even more but the rest of the Bucks not doing squat....down by 5 at the half. Coverage is claiming there’s 60K people outside the arena and there may be...it’s a sea of fans.
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Post by Beauner » Tue Jul 20 10:25 pm

Giannis is absolutely incredible.
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Post by ex_goldy » Tue Jul 20 10:31 pm

I have no idea what fouls they are calling. The announcers even disagree on the calls. Bucks look like they are going to put this one away. 2:25 left

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Bigbeer wrote:
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Giannis somehow steps up his game even more but the rest of the Bucks not doing squat....down by 5 at the half. Coverage is claiming there’s 60K people outside the arena and there may be...it’s a sea of fans.
I was there, good times. The main screen people were watching (the main sea of ppl you see on TV) went out for a few mins and it was already tough to see that one, but it forced us to move which paid off, we got to the side section by the bars and had a perfect view of a diff big screen for the fourth quarter.
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Post by Laxref » Wed Jul 21 12:00 pm

Is it really that crazy to think if the Milwaukee effin Bucks can win an NBA title that the local team also could pull it off?

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Laxref wrote:
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Is it really that crazy to think if the Milwaukee effin Bucks can win an NBA title that the local team also could pull it off?
First..... :lol:

You have to get super lucky with the right lottery pick and hope you catch lightning in a bottle before the prima donna side kicks implode. Garnett almost got them to the finals.

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Giannis is absolutely incredible.
Admittedly I don’t watch a ton of bball…but some of the blocks he had last night. Damn!! What a monster. Dropping 50 to win a title is Jordan-esque.
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YoungEagle wrote:
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Tue Jul 20 10:25 pm
Giannis is absolutely incredible.
Admittedly I don’t watch a ton of bball…but some of the blocks he had last night. Damn!! What a monster. Dropping 50 to win a title is Jordan-esque.
I then you see highlights of his interviews showing that he is a really good guy.
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Post by Beauner » Wed Jul 21 3:16 pm

Zwak wrote:
Wed Jul 21 2:37 pm
YoungEagle wrote:
Wed Jul 21 2:15 pm
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Tue Jul 20 10:25 pm
Giannis is absolutely incredible.
Admittedly I don’t watch a ton of bball…but some of the blocks he had last night. Damn!! What a monster. Dropping 50 to win a title is Jordan-esque.
I then you see highlights of his interviews showing that he is a really good guy.
He was on Instagram live or something this morning and went to Chic Fil A and ordered 50 chicken nuggets. It was hilarious.
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Post by gator » Wed Jul 21 4:12 pm

Just can't get into the NBA any more. Basketball was my sport from youth through high school. Just no care for the NBA at all. It's not basketball anymore. I'll watch highlights on the news or the game is on at a restaurant. Watching it just gives me a headache. I see violation after violation and nothing called. No wonder the youth these days don't have basic fundamentals. They watch this stuff and want to mimic it all.
I still to day, can watch an afternoon of college basketball and enjoy it. I especially enjoy going to Vegas and sitting in the sports bet room or private table for opening round of the NCAA's. It's great entertainment.
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Post by Slap Shot » Wed Jul 21 5:35 pm

When I was a kid (born 67) and at least until the first few years of the Wolvws, in college I was an avid.NBA fan. But at some.point the league became a huge afterthought, and while I still appreciate the athleticism the league itself bores me to tears.
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Laxref wrote:
Wed Jul 21 12:00 pm
Is it really that crazy to think if the Milwaukee effin Bucks can win an NBA title that the local team also could pull it off?
Not impossible, the bucks got a bit lucky to get a top 5 NBA player at pick fifteen in the draft. The pieces around him aren’t bad but he carried the team by any metric and the Suns just didn’t have an answer or an equivalent player who could also put up fifty points (and twenty in a quarter twice, not to mention his defensive impact).
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Slap Shot wrote:
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When I was a kid (born 67) and at least until the first few years of the Wolvws, in college I was an avid.NBA fan. But at some.point the league became a huge afterthought, and while I still appreciate the athleticism the league itself bores me to tears.
I've got a year on you and am sort of the same. I used to LOVE the NBA back in the early 80's. I was a big fan of the 76ers (Dr. J, Moses Malone, etc). Once the late 80's hit I started to lose interest and I'm to the point that I have almost no interest in the NBA anymore. I still like following the draft but I honestly haven't watched a minute of an NBA game in a long time.

That said, I do think it was great to have to non-perennial contenders vying for the title this year and especially great to have a smaller market team win it all.
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Post by Beauner » Tue Aug 17 11:18 am

Wolves trade former first round (#6 overall) Jarrett Culver and Juancho Hernangomez to Memphis for Patrick Beverley. One of everybody's least favorite players.
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Post by Laxref » Tue Aug 17 11:43 am

Beauner wrote:
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Wolves trade former first round (#6 overall) Jarrett Culver and Juancho Hernangomez to Memphis for Patrick Beverley. One of everybody's least favorite players.
Ha, I thought Beverly was they guy who tried to fight half the western conference last playoffs.

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Post by Slap Shot » Tue Aug 17 12:20 pm

Laxref wrote:
Tue Aug 17 11:43 am
Beauner wrote:
Tue Aug 17 11:18 am
Wolves trade former first round (#6 overall) Jarrett Culver and Juancho Hernangomez to Memphis for Patrick Beverley. One of everybody's least favorite players.
Ha, I thought Beverly was they guy who tried to fight half the western conference last playoffs.
I don't follow too closely but if he's a good defender why not? I believe the Wolves are sorely lacking that and toughness?
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Post by Border Gopher » Tue Aug 17 1:35 pm

Beauner wrote:
Tue Aug 17 11:18 am
Wolves trade former first round (#6 overall) Jarrett Culver and Juancho Hernangomez to Memphis for Patrick Beverley. One of everybody's least favorite players.
I needn't say more than this:

We got him.
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Post by Beauner » Tue Aug 17 2:43 pm

Laxref wrote:
Tue Aug 17 11:43 am
Beauner wrote:
Tue Aug 17 11:18 am
Wolves trade former first round (#6 overall) Jarrett Culver and Juancho Hernangomez to Memphis for Patrick Beverley. One of everybody's least favorite players.
Ha, I thought Beverly was they guy who tried to fight half the western conference last playoffs.
He is. He's a frequent target of scorn among players on the league for borderline (or blatantly dirty) plays.
In the playoffs he threw an elbow into Chris Paul's ribs, shoved him from behind after a game, and headbutted Devin Booker.
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Post by gator » Wed Sep 01 3:39 pm

What's the chances of Ben Simmons being a Timberpuppy?!?!?!
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Post by Beauner » Wed Sep 01 4:54 pm

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What's the chances of Ben Simmons being a Timberpuppy?!?!?!
Not high. Not zero, but not high.

I think if Philly does trade him, the Wolves are probably one of the 2-3 most likely destinations but I'm still expecting him to be in Philly this season as of now.

If they do trade for him it likely means DLo has to go to Philly. And the Wolves have talked all summer about building a team around DLo, KAT, and Ant.

So the other option would be Beasley, McDaniels, Beverly, and like 7 first round picks? I don't envision that being a good enough package to lure Philly in if they are trying to compete still.
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Post by Slap Shot » Wed Sep 01 5:09 pm

Original commentary was PHI wanted way, way too much for him. Wolves could use him but they're not in rebuild mode. Yet. :mrgreen:
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Beauner wrote:
Wed Sep 01 4:54 pm
gator wrote:
Wed Sep 01 3:39 pm
What's the chances of Ben Simmons being a Timberpuppy?!?!?!
Not high. Not zero, but not high.

I think if Philly does trade him, the Wolves are probably one of the 2-3 most likely destinations but I'm still expecting him to be in Philly this season as of now.

If they do trade for him it likely means DLo has to go to Philly. And the Wolves have talked all summer about building a team around DLo, KAT, and Ant.

So the other option would be Beasley, McDaniels, Beverly, and like 7 first round picks? I don't envision that being a good enough package to lure Philly in if they are trying to compete still.
I don’t follow the NBA and only blurbs on talk radio hear and there. Though if Simmons is refusing to come to training camp, his trade value can’t be to high.
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Post by Beauner » Wed Sep 01 9:00 pm

gator wrote:
Wed Sep 01 5:49 pm
Beauner wrote:
Wed Sep 01 4:54 pm
gator wrote:
Wed Sep 01 3:39 pm
What's the chances of Ben Simmons being a Timberpuppy?!?!?!
Not high. Not zero, but not high.

I think if Philly does trade him, the Wolves are probably one of the 2-3 most likely destinations but I'm still expecting him to be in Philly this season as of now.

If they do trade for him it likely means DLo has to go to Philly. And the Wolves have talked all summer about building a team around DLo, KAT, and Ant.

So the other option would be Beasley, McDaniels, Beverly, and like 7 first round picks? I don't envision that being a good enough package to lure Philly in if they are trying to compete still.
I don’t follow the NBA and only blurbs on talk radio hear and there. Though if Simmons is refusing to come to training camp, his trade value can’t be to high.
It's not impossibly high but Philly will still be able to play teams against each other.

If the Wolves were to make a move for him we'd likely have to include a third team in the trade. Maybe a team like Washington? We send Beverly to Philly, Washington sends Beal to Philly, Wolves send McDaniel, Beasley, and Balmero and 3-4 first round picks to Washington, Philly sends Simmons to MN.

Then Wolves would get to keep DLo, Ant, and KAT and still add Simmons and have a formidable top 4.

I dunno how that would work out contract wise though
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Post by Beauner » Wed Sep 22 3:10 pm

Rumors on Twitter are that this was a while in the making.

I've also heard/seen rumors that he was having an affair with his assistant.

This matches what I heard

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Post by Beauner » Wed Sep 22 4:10 pm

More (unsubstantiated to this point) rumors that seem to hold weight

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Post by Iceburg » Wed Sep 22 4:22 pm

Did I mix up reading the Wolves thread with my wife discussing her favorite soap opera?

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Post by Border Gopher » Wed Sep 22 4:42 pm

Gupta is pretty highly regarded, isn't he?
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Post by Beauner » Wed Sep 22 5:01 pm

Border Gopher wrote:
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Gupta is pretty highly regarded, isn't he?
The HillRat guy also tweeted out that multiple teams had contacted the Wolves trying to interview Gupta for open positions that would (likely) have been a higher profile position than his previous role here, and Rosas told them no without consulting Gupta at all.
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