Vikings 2020 season

[Bigbeer]

We traded a 5 to CHI for a 4 next year so that’s one way to knock one out

[Bigbeer]

Now we traded our No.201 and No.219 for BAL No.225....does that make sense?

[Border Gopher]

Now we traded our No.201 and No.219 for BAL No.225....does that make sense?

We get the Ravens 5th next year as well.

[Bigbeer]

Then went OT at 203 and S at 205

I’m assuming this is a tackle they think can move inside

[Beauner]

Vikings draft former Iowa QB Nate Stanley in the seventh round.

[team22tank]

Spielman has made a Day 2 trade in each of the past six drafts, after initially being unwilling to trade up in the second round and unable to trade up in the third round on Friday.

“We wanted to be aggressive,” Spielman said. “We just couldn’t get a trade partner to deal with us.”

Because of the coronavirus pandemic, this was different. Spielman continued to stockpile late-round picks to get ahead of undrafted free agency starting Saturday night, when NFL executives, scouts and coaches might struggle to cast a coordinated net while sequestered in their homes.

“Having this amount of picks alleviates some of that stress in college free agency, just because of the situation we’re dealing with right now,” Spielman said. “A lot of those guys that we like, if they did get to free agency you’d have to be battling with [other teams].”

https://www.startribune.com/vikings-tak ... 569940452/

Instead of using the picks on the guys that everyone wants, we traded them for more picks to be used on the guys that nobody plans on drafting. That's the logic? Seriously?

About 30% of NFL rosters are made up of Undrafted Free Agents.

I didn’t follow day three very close and am not sure if there is something in particular you are pointing to.

But in general moving down in the draft that late, odds are still pretty high you can get a guy you have your eyes on.

By having more picks the Vikings now have control over all the players they chose obviously. They will have to be less active in the undrafted free agency portion because they essentially did that late yesterday. And now don’t have to compete against other teams In that process.

They had 7 pics in rounds 1-4 and hit many of their needs. I actually think this was a good strategy for the late rounds.

**And In the process of maneuvering around in the late rounds, they picked up a 4th round and 5th for next year.**

I don’t see many issues with this draft at all. Now what really matter how many can they develop into legitimate NFL Players.

Pro Football graded the Vikes A. Packers Grade D!

[MNNavy]

Pro Football graded the Vikes A. Packers Grade D!

[Beauner]

Spielman has made a Day 2 trade in each of the past six drafts, after initially being unwilling to trade up in the second round and unable to trade up in the third round on Friday.

“We wanted to be aggressive,” Spielman said. “We just couldn’t get a trade partner to deal with us.”

Because of the coronavirus pandemic, this was different. Spielman continued to stockpile late-round picks to get ahead of undrafted free agency starting Saturday night, when NFL executives, scouts and coaches might struggle to cast a coordinated net while sequestered in their homes.

“Having this amount of picks alleviates some of that stress in college free agency, just because of the situation we’re dealing with right now,” Spielman said. “A lot of those guys that we like, if they did get to free agency you’d have to be battling with [other teams].”

https://www.startribune.com/vikings-tak ... 569940452/

Instead of using the picks on the guys that everyone wants, we traded them for more picks to be used on the guys that nobody plans on drafting. That's the logic? Seriously?

About 30% of NFL rosters are made up of Undrafted Free Agents.

I didn’t follow day three very close and am not sure if there is something in particular you are pointing to.

But in general moving down in the draft that late, odds are still pretty high you can get a guy you have your eyes on.

By having more picks the Vikings now have control over all the players they chose obviously. They will have to be less active in the undrafted free agency portion because they essentially did that late yesterday. And now don’t have to compete against other teams In that process.

They had 7 pics in rounds 1-4 and hit many of their needs. I actually think this was a good strategy for the late rounds.

**And In the process of maneuvering around in the late rounds, they picked up a 4th round and 5th for next year.**

I don’t see many issues with this draft at all. Now what really matter how many can they develop into legitimate NFL Players.

Pro Football graded the Vikes A. Packers Grade D!

One big thing you touched on that was confirmed already: Brian Cole, the safety they picked at 249, was already in talks and had agreed to an UDFA contract with the Seahawks. Vikings took him so they didn't have to try to get into a bidding war.

[ScoobyDoo]

Good. I hate the Seachickens.

[Beauner]

Of the 90 players on the roster currently, 53 players are first or second year guys.

[Bigbeer]

Was just reading thru a draft grade article:


Vikings B+

Packers F

[Bertogliat]

Was just reading thru a draft grade article:


Vikings B+

Packers F

A summary of several major draft graders. Vikings with top grade and Packers with bottom.

My guess is Thor Nystrom from Rotoworld is an Eagles fan.

[gopher6]

Queens to play at Saints Christmas Day

[frozen4champs]

Former Vikings D line coach dies. It seemed like he was her longer than 3 years.

Regarded by some as the greatest defensive line coach of all time, Teerlinck established an NFL presence in the early 1990s. "John Teerlinck is kind of like Mr. Miyagi", John Randle said. "He's very unorthodox. A different breed. Rough around the edges. He tells you things that are funny, but they register if you just listen. That's why he's the guru."[2] He is the namesake of the John Teerlinck Award, given annually to the best defensive line coach in the NFL.[3]

[gopher6]

Bud Grant 93rd BDay today

[frozen4champs]

[Don Adams Wheel of Justice]

I can't blame Cook for wanting to get paid. Hell, he deserves every penny he can squeeze out of the purple. Selfishly, I worry about the salary cap and want him to just play for the love of the game, not dollars .

[frozen4champs]

Zimmer extended

[Aldy]

I received an email from the Vikings on Monday that gives season ticket holders the option to opt out of the 2020 season without any negative impact to purchase season tickets in 2021. Given that fans who do attend games can expect a different game day experience that will include a face-covering requirement, stadium seating reconfigurations, staggered entrance times and other mandated protocols, I think my best option is to watch their games from the comfort of my house this year.

[team22tank]

I received an email from the Vikings on Monday that gives season ticket holders the option to opt out of the 2020 season without any negative impact to purchase season tickets in 2021. Given that fans who do attend games can expect a different game day experience that will include a face-covering requirement, stadium seating reconfigurations, staggered entrance times and other mandated protocols, I think my best option is to watch their games from the comfort of my house this year.

I haven’t been paying much attention about fans being able to go to games this year. But I did catch a headline this morning. Does it sound like there will be fans in some capacity at the beginning of the season or is the thought later on?

[sunbone]

Zimmer extended

Wonder if this means Spielman is getting an extension. Hope not.

[Snowcool08]

Wonder if this means Spielman is getting an extension. Hope not.

Why not?

[Aldy]

I received an email from the Vikings on Monday that gives season ticket holders the option to opt out of the 2020 season without any negative impact to purchase season tickets in 2021. Given that fans who do attend games can expect a different game day experience that will include a face-covering requirement, stadium seating reconfigurations, staggered entrance times and other mandated protocols, I think my best option is to watch their games from the comfort of my house this year.

I haven’t been paying much attention about fans being able to go to games this year. But I did catch a headline this morning. Does it sound like there will be fans in some capacity at the beginning of the season or is the thought later on?

There may be fans at some capacity but I don't think the Vikings know when that will be at this time. The email mentioned that games may be played without fans or played with a reduced capacity that limits attendance. If the attendance is limited, fans with seat licences will be given priority.

[gopher6]

Eric Sugarman test positive for COVID-19

[Bonin21]

Literally the team's "Infection Control Officer".

[Bigbeer]

Literally the team's "Infection Control Officer".

This is only the beginning. Wait til these leagues get to playoff games and players test positive.

[Bertogliat]

Literally the team's "Infection Control Officer".

This is only the beginning. Wait til these leagues get to playoff games and players test positive.

There won’t be playoffs unless they postpone to play into spring. I’d be shocked to see a start.

I am looking forward to seeing how they handle the draft order if there is no season.

[Bonin21]

NFL Top 100 is being posted to YT.
https://www.youtube.com/nfl

40 left. Think Thielen might have fallen off the 100, but the monster Danielle Hunter will be the team's highest ranked player.

Oh ya, Dalvin could be up there, too.

Cousins 58
H Smith 64
Kendricks 83

[Karlsson]

Big free agent signing Michael Pierce opts out of this season due to COVID-19 concerns.

[Bonin21]

Well, when the season actually starts in 2021 does the opt out still apply?

[Bigbeer]

Literally the team's "Infection Control Officer".

This is only the beginning. Wait til these leagues get to playoff games and players test positive.

There won’t be playoffs unless they postpone to play into spring. I’d be shocked to see a start.

I am looking forward to seeing how they handle the draft order if there is no season.

NBA and NHL are basically starting back up with playoffs

[gopher6]

Anthony Barr tested positive for COVID 19

[Bonin21]

No bubble = no NFL season in the fall

[YoungEagle]

Anthony Barr may have it or he came into contact with someone who had COVID-19, and they changed his roster status, but they did not release that he tested positive.

[frozen4champs]

[Bertogliat]

Yeesh

[coondog]

Moss Carter Cousins Smith Shiancoe

this. but would like to be able to use white instead of shiancoe and go to a three receiver set. White and Cousins are the best values on the board, but hard to leave off two HOFers as WRs

[D2D]

Vikings trying to get fans into the seats at U.S. Bank Stadium for opener next month
Team says no more than a fifth of the seats would be filled.

If approved, it'll be interesting to see how much demand to attend there is.

[Snowcool08]

Vikings trying to get fans into the seats at U.S. Bank Stadium for opener next month
Team says no more than a fifth of the seats would be filled.

If approved, it'll be interesting to see how much demand to attend there is.

I bet they could sell the stadium to damn near capacity if they wanted to. The people will show up.

[gopher6]

Vikings trying to get fans into the seats at U.S. Bank Stadium for opener next month
Team says no more than a fifth of the seats would be filled.

If approved, it'll be interesting to see how much demand to attend there is.

I bet they could sell the stadium to damn near capacity if they wanted to. The people will show up.

3250 to be let in?

[Bertogliat]

Vikings trying to get fans into the seats at U.S. Bank Stadium for opener next month
Team says no more than a fifth of the seats would be filled.

If approved, it'll be interesting to see how much demand to attend there is.

I bet they could sell the stadium to damn near capacity if they wanted to. The people will show up.

3250 to be let in?

66,000 x 0.2 = 13,200

[team22tank]

I don’t see what the issue is if masks are required.

Masks stop the virus.

[Bigbeer]

I don’t see what the issue is if masks are required.

Masks stop the virus.

Literally no one has ever said that

[D2D]

I don’t see what the issue is if masks are required.

Masks stop the virus.

Literally no one has ever said that

I'm certainly no expert on the subject (and I'm beginning to question if anyone really is!) but my understanding is no mask stops 100% of the microscopic droplets. Surgical masks are the best, although not perfect, followed by N95's which are slightly less effective, followed by everything else ("Who Knows?") because of the wide-ranging degree of materials and fit.

[Steve MN]

I don’t see what the issue is if masks are required.

Masks stop the virus.

Literally no one has ever said that

I'm certainly no expert on the subject (and I'm beginning to question if anyone really is!) but my understanding is no mask stops 100% of the microscopic droplets. Surgical masks are the best, although not perfect, followed by N95's which are slightly less effective, followed by everything else ("Who Knows?") because of the wide-ranging degree of materials and fit.

I believe N95s are better than Surgical masks, especially with how they're fitted. Both are way above the "everything else." And nothing short of a full hazmat type suit or military anti-nuclear/biological/chemical gear really gets to 100% effective.

Having said that, if people do wear masks (even the cloth masks that most people use these days) that's a definite help, especially if the infected person wears one, as it helps stop the spread of the virus from them in the first place, and if you're not infected, not breathing in the particles helps as well. Masks aren't about eliminating the spread, they're about minimizing the spread.

[The Rube]

I don’t see what the issue is if masks are required.

Masks stop the virus.

Literally no one has ever said that

It severely limits the risk. No more, no less. That's it. And most everyone is saying that part.

[Cowgirl]

And reducing the virus load, which can reduce the degree of illness if you are infected.

Hoping it was a facetious comment.....

[Bertogliat]

I don’t see what the issue is if masks are required.

Masks stop the virus.

Literally no one has ever said that

I'm certainly no expert on the subject (and I'm beginning to question if anyone really is!) but my understanding is no mask stops 100% of the microscopic droplets. Surgical masks are the best, although not perfect, followed by N95's which are slightly less effective, followed by everything else ("Who Knows?") because of the wide-ranging degree of materials and fit.

I believe N95s are better than Surgical masks, especially with how they're fitted. Both are way above the "everything else." And nothing short of a full hazmat type suit or military anti-nuclear/biological/chemical gear really gets to 100% effective.

Having said that, if people do wear masks (even the cloth masks that most people use these days) that's a definite help, especially if the infected person wears one, as it helps stop the spread of the virus from them in the first place, and if you're not infected, not breathing in the particles helps as well. Masks aren't about eliminating the spread, they're about minimizing the spread.

N95 respirators protect the wearer by blocking small particles (and viruses) from being inhaled. But IIRC the exhale is not filtered and if the wearer has the virus, it can be spread.

A cloth mask, like a surgical mask, protects people near the wearer by blocking much of the wearer’s exhale/cough/sneeze. But it does not protect the wearer as much as a respirator. Of course the designs vary greatly and thus the degree of protection is near impossible to measure across the board.

Both respirators and masks reduce viral load of the wearer which can reduce the severity of the illness.

I believe many people working in health care these days wear a mask over their N95 respirator to protect themselves and the patients.

[The Rube]

And N95 is named as such because it's 95% effective. Not 100%.

[Bigbeer]

I don’t see what the issue is if masks are required.

Masks stop the virus.

Literally no one has ever said that

It severely limits the risk. No more, no less. That's it. And most everyone is saying that part.

I assumed that was a sarcastic RL post, I apologize if I was wrongly judging from the source

[frozen4champs]

Vikings get All Pro pass rusher from Jaguars.

[Beauner]

Vikings trade for Yannick Ngakoue.

Him and Danielle Hunter on the ends? Yikes. Good luck other QBs.

Dang it. He beat me by like 3 seconds.

[FargoGopher7]

This injury with hunter could be worse then we know

[gopher6]

Vikings trade for Yannick Ngakoue.

Him and Danielle Hunter on the ends? Yikes. Good luck other QBs.

Dang it. He beat me by like 3 seconds.

It’s only a 1 year contract

[Bigbeer]

This injury with hunter could be worse then we know

Hopefully they are being extremely cautious and this isn’t a move to replace Hunter.

[Bonin21]

That would be depressing but not surprising given how often we see injury replacement type moves come together quickly.

[Bertogliat]

This injury with hunter could be worse then we know

This doesn't make sense unless Hunter's injury is worse than thought. Why trade away high draft picks go after another DE instead of a CB (especially for a 1 year contract)?

If it truly is a 1 year deal, I am not loving this.

[Beauner]

This injury with hunter could be worse then we know

This doesn't make sense unless Hunter's injury is worse than thought. Why trade away high draft picks go after another DE instead of a CB (especially for a 1 year contract)?

If it truly is a 1 year deal, I am not loving this.

Because other than Hunter we have no defensive line? Griffen is gone, Linval is gone, Michael Pierce is sitting out. It would have been Hunter and a rotation of 6-7 guys who fill niche roles.

I'd be shocked if they don't bring Ngakoue back. Especially since he said the Vikings were one of the few teams he'd take less money for if he got traded.

The Hunter injury is concerning, obviously. But the rumors of Ngakoue being a trade target for the Vikings date back to before the 2020 draft even happened.

[gopher6]

Vikings trade for Yannick Ngakoue.

Him and Danielle Hunter on the ends? Yikes. Good luck other QBs.

Dang it. He beat me by like 3 seconds.

It’s only a 1 year contract

And he took a pay cut in his new contract with the Queens

[Beauner]

Seeing on Twitter that the Vikings are asking Rieff to restructure his contract (not surprising). If he doesn't, he seems to believe he'll be released.

[FargoGopher7]

Seeing on Twitter that the Vikings are asking Rieff to restructure his contract (not surprising). If he doesn't, he seems to believe he'll be released.

Sounds like he is already saying goodbye to his teammates!!

[Slap Shot]

Cousins had an Ivan Drago like comment regarding Covid.

[team22tank]

Seeing on Twitter that the Vikings are asking Rieff to restructure his contract (not surprising). If he doesn't, he seems to believe he'll be released.

Sounds like he is already saying goodbye to his teammates!!

I thought I heard this as well or did hear it. But there must have been a change of heart, sounds like he is staying and they restructured.

[frozen4champs]

God, I love Tommy Kramer.

[Bigbeer]

Cousins had an Ivan Drago like comment regarding Covid.

When you listen to the whole audio and not cherry picked quotes it’s not a big deal. He was talking about his personal beliefs that his faith will determine his fate (but no one is gonna talk about how stupid that is). He wears a mask, follows protocols and is respectful of others. Nuff said.

[The Rube]

Cousins had an Ivan Drago like comment regarding Covid.

When you listen to the whole audio and not cherry picked quotes it’s not a big deal. He was talking about his personal beliefs that his faith will determine his fate (but no one is gonna talk about how stupid that is). He wears a mask, follows protocols and is respectful of others. Nuff said.

He's kind of along my lines of thinking. I'll follow the rules, but if God's gonna pull my string, He's gonna do just that.

[Slap Shot]

Cousins had an Ivan Drago like comment regarding Covid.

When you listen to the whole audio and not cherry picked quotes it’s not a big deal. He was talking about his personal beliefs that his faith will determine his fate (but no one is gonna talk about how stupid that is). He wears a mask, follows protocols and is respectful of others. Nuff said.

I didn't criticize him I was having fun with it.

[Bertogliat]

God, I love Tommy Kramer.

The Favre photo above the Packers urinal is perfect.

[gopher6]

Danielle Hunter put on injured Reserve list

[YoungEagle]

Yikes. Will Ifedi be the replacement there?

[D2D]

Yikes. Will Ifedi be the replacement there?

From the Star Tribune:

"The Vikings’ trade for former Jaguars defensive end Yannick Ngakoue comes into clearer focus. Ifeadi Odenigbo, who was a starter before the Ngakoue trade, is expected to step back into the lineup for Hunter during Sunday’s opener against the Packers."

[Bertogliat]

So Dalvin is disheartened so see other stunning backs such as Kareem Hunt and Alvin Kamara get new contracts while he still has to play on his rookie deal?

Kamara has over 4400 yards over the last 3 years with 37 touchdowns.

Hunt, who has also missed significant playing time has 3400 combined yards and 28 TDs. He also plays for the Browns.

Cook has 3000 combined yards and 19 TDs.

https://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-41099030-4

[team22tank]

So Dalvin is disheartened so see other stunning backs such as Kareem Hunt and Alvin Kamara get new contracts while he still has to play on his rookie deal?

Kamara has over 4400 yards over the last 3 years with 37 touchdowns.

Hunt, who has also missed significant playing time has 3400 combined yards and 28 TDs. He also plays for the Browns.

Cook has 3000 combined yards and 19 TDs.

https://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-41099030-4

What?

Did you read what you linked?

Dalvin Cook on whether it's disheartening to see other running backs like Joe Mixon, Kareem Hunt and soon to Alvin Kamara signing new deals while he still doesn't have one: "I’ve never been a guy to look at this guy or look at that guy. Everybody is human. You go out and bust your tail and do what you’ve got to do and you expect a reward to come behind that. I just hope the Vikings and my agent come to an agreement of a deal that values me. Until then, I’ve just got to wait my turn."

[Bertogliat]

So Dalvin is disheartened so see other stunning backs such as Kareem Hunt and Alvin Kamara get new contracts while he still has to play on his rookie deal?

Kamara has over 4400 yards over the last 3 years with 37 touchdowns.

Hunt, who has also missed significant playing time has 3400 combined yards and 28 TDs. He also plays for the Browns.

Cook has 3000 combined yards and 19 TDs.

https://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-41099030-4

What?

Did you read what you linked?

Dalvin Cook on whether it's disheartening to see other running backs like Joe Mixon, Kareem Hunt and soon to Alvin Kamara signing new deals while he still doesn't have one: "I’ve never been a guy to look at this guy or look at that guy. Everybody is human. You go out and bust your tail and do what you’ve got to do and you expect a reward to come behind that. I just hope the Vikings and my agent come to an agreement of a deal that values me. Until then, I’ve just got to wait my turn."

Yes, I misread it.

[Bonin21]

Hunter to IR, obviously after big signing covering him.