Vikings 2020 season

[Bertogliat]

Qb $4 Fran
RB $4 Chuck
Wr1 $1 White
Wr 2 $5 Carter
TE $1 Shiancoe

Carter over Moss?

[minnhkyruls]

Qb $4 Fran
RB $4 Chuck
Wr1 $1 White
Wr 2 $5 Carter
TE $1 Shiancoe

Carter over Moss?

All he does is catch TD’s

[00xtremeninja]

I'm not a Vikings fan in the least and I know there is debate of Carter and moss, but from my observations over the years, I always preferred Carter for his hands and he seemed like less of a diva

[Beauner]

Moss Carter Cousins Smith Shiancoe

[Butters Stotch]

QB: Cunningham $2
RB: Cook $2
WR1: Moss $5
WR2 : Carter $5
TE: Shiancoe $1

[Bertogliat]

Cunningham, Smith, Moss, Reed, and Kleinsasser.

But no Dennis Green.

[Five-HoleFrenzy]

Cunningham, Smith, Moss, Reed, and Kleinsasser.

But no Dennis Green.

You'd take him over Steckel though, right?

[MNNavy]

Cunningham, Smith, Moss, Reed, and Kleinsasser.

But no Dennis Green.

You'd take him over Steckel though, right?

I would. I'd also take him over Brad Childress and Leslie Frazier.

[Border Gopher]

5 favre
2 cook
5 moss
2 reed
1 shiancoe

[Beauner]

NFL draft this weekend.
Really interested to see what the Vikings do. They have tons of capital to move up but could also feasibly move down and still get players to help while accumulating more (theoretically to move up in another round). I've had a bit of fun playing armchair GM on a couple mock draft simulation sites.

It sounds like they are making progress on an extension for Anthony Harris too. Probably a good thing, although it makes it less likely that they'd take Antoine Winfield Jr. which would be disappointing. Unless they think he could convert to the hybrid nickel they used a lot last year (primarily with Jayron Kearse).

I'm of the belief that they'll go OT/DE or OT/CB if they stand pat at 22 and 25. I've seen and heard rumors that they may try to package 22 and a 3rd and maybe a late round pick to move up to 15-17 range to try to secure one of the top 4 OTs or top 2-3 CBs. If they stand pat we could end up with Stefon Diggs younger brother

[Bertogliat]

NFL draft this weekend.
Really interested to see what the Vikings do. They have tons of capital to move up but could also feasibly move down and still get players to help while accumulating more (theoretically to move up in another round). I've had a bit of fun playing armchair GM on a couple mock draft simulation sites.

It sounds like they are making progress on an extension for Anthony Harris too. Probably a good thing, although it makes it less likely that they'd take Antoine Winfield Jr. which would be disappointing. Unless they think he could convert to the hybrid nickel they used a lot last year (primarily with Jayron Kearse).

I'm of the belief that they'll go OT/DE or OT/CB if they stand pat at 22 and 25. I've seen and heard rumors that they may try to package 22 and a 3rd and maybe a late round pick to move up to 15-17 range to try to secure one of the top 4 OTs or top 2-3 CBs. If they stand pat we could end up with Stefon Diggs younger brother

I think they know better than to draft Diggs.

[Beauner]

NFL draft this weekend.
Really interested to see what the Vikings do. They have tons of capital to move up but could also feasibly move down and still get players to help while accumulating more (theoretically to move up in another round). I've had a bit of fun playing armchair GM on a couple mock draft simulation sites.

It sounds like they are making progress on an extension for Anthony Harris too. Probably a good thing, although it makes it less likely that they'd take Antoine Winfield Jr. which would be disappointing. Unless they think he could convert to the hybrid nickel they used a lot last year (primarily with Jayron Kearse).

I'm of the belief that they'll go OT/DE or OT/CB if they stand pat at 22 and 25. I've seen and heard rumors that they may try to package 22 and a 3rd and maybe a late round pick to move up to 15-17 range to try to secure one of the top 4 OTs or top 2-3 CBs. If they stand pat we could end up with Stefon Diggs younger brother

I think they know better than to draft Diggs.

Well Trevon would only have himself to blame if he's not getting the ball

[Beauner]

This is funny right here

[Bonin21]

The appeal of the draft has gone down a lot over time for me since the grade can't come for a few years, and MN sports, but I did notice Sling is broadcasting the first round tonight for free. No CC needed apparently.

This is interesting as I paused my YTTV for now. Not that finding a stream online would be hard.

[Beauner]

The appeal of the draft has gone down a lot over time for me since the grade can't come for a few years, and MN sports, but I did notice Sling is broadcasting the first round tonight for free. No CC needed apparently.

This is interesting as I paused my YTTV for now. Not that finding a stream online would be hard.

IIRC it will also be on ABC if you have an antenna.

[gopherguy06]

This is funny right here

I wish I knew all those players.

[Bonin21]

First mock I've looked at, but has us taking two LSU guys? Love it! SEC!
https://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30000 ... loa-slides

[Beauner]

This is funny right here

I wish I knew all those players.

Anthony Barr
Alexander Mattison
Bryan O'Neil
Adam Thielen

[bearpaw28]

This is funny right here

I wish I knew all those players.

Anthony Barr
Alexander Mattison
Bryan O'Neill
Adam Thielen

FYP

[gopherguy06]

Lamb and Jeudy gone. Maybe the Eagles won’t take Jefferson

[Bonin21]

Justin Jefferson come on down

[gopherguy06]

On the clock. Has to be Jefferson

[Bonin21]

Suppose we can't take Diggs' brother...

[Five-HoleFrenzy]

VIkings don't have the greatest recent history with 1st round WR...

[bearpaw28]

VIkings don't have the greatest recent history with 1st round WR...

I’ll guarantee Jefferson is better than Treadwell & Williamson (combined)

[Bonin21]

They don't have the greatest 1st round history period lately. You could say the same about CB with the way they fell apart last year. And I'm pretty sure at least one lineman drafted after him is looking to be much better than Bradbury.

Seems he was the BPA at need positions.

[Bigbeer]

Traded back, no surprise. Moved back to 31

[Bigbeer]

Possibly Winfield at 31?

[gopherguy06]

I missed that his stock went this high. Thought he was a 2nd rounder based on mocks but haven't paid close enough attention

[Bonin21]

If the kid from Alabama is still available and you're taking a safety, it'll be the Bama kid.

[Bonin21]

Name a more iconic duo: You know what I mean

[bearpaw28]

No surprise...Zimmer gets a CB in the 1st Round, let’s hope this one pans out

[Bigbeer]

They seemed to make that pick very quickly so that must have been their target in moving back

[gopherguy06]

Ha let's hope this one works out.

[gopherguy06]

Need some OL help bigly

[Bonin21]

They seemed to make that pick very quickly so that must have been their target in moving back

Diggs' brother was the highest rated CB left on the board. Gotta hope he flops compared to this kid.

[Bigbeer]

Cue the “no oline help with 2 1st round pics” criticism

[bearpaw28]

Cue the “no oline help with 2 1st round pics” criticism

It’s worse for another team: Carnac the Magnificent:
Answer: Tuesday afternoon. Question: When will Brett Favre stop laughing.

[Bonin21]

Cue the “no oline help with 2 1st round pics” criticism

Cue the "Not a real contender anymore and therefore holes at CB, WR, and OL and can't get three positions with two picks".

[Bonin21]

Jefferson seems to stick to shorter routes which is good for Kirk and his stats lol. His teammate coming out next year looks like an absolute beast compared to him in this video.

[Bertogliat]

Jefferson seems to stick to shorter routes which is good for Kirk and his stats lol. His teammate coming out next year looks like an absolute beast compared to him in this video.

They said on NFL network that Jefferson is a slot receiver.... like Thielen.

[team22tank]

Cue the “no oline help with 2 1st round pics” criticism

Cue the "Not a real contender anymore and therefore holes at CB, WR, and OL and can't get three positions with two picks".

Most fans are complete rubes. And a good portion of that contingent are complete emotional rubes.

On another note the Vikings have 12 more picks in the draft. 7 picks rounds 2-5. One In the 2nd, and then two each in 3rd, 4th, 5th.

They don’t need all those picks so they should be able to make some moves and go after the players they want from here on out.

[ScoobyDoo]

Cue the “no oline help with 2 1st round pics” criticism

Cue the "Not a real contender anymore and therefore holes at CB, WR, and OL and can't get three positions with two picks".

I watched the draft last night. While I wanted an offensive lineman more than anything I recognized at both picks that there wasn't any value there. So, I agree with the picks they made. If Zimmer thinks this is a cornerback he wants. Great. And they needed a receiver. Let's hope their history of bombing on receivers in the first round ends with this draft.

Now they need to find the second round offensive lineman that wasn't going to go in the first round but is ready to play. He's out there. Just go get him.

[team22tank]

Cue the “no oline help with 2 1st round pics” criticism

Cue the "Not a real contender anymore and therefore holes at CB, WR, and OL and can't get three positions with two picks".

I watched the draft last night. While I wanted an offensive lineman more than anything I recognized at both picks that there wasn't any value there. So, I agree with the picks they made. If Zimmer thinks this is a cornerback he wants. Great. And they needed a receiver. Let's hope their history of bombing on receivers in the first round ends with this draft.

Now they need to find the second round offensive lineman that wasn't going to go in the first round but is ready to play. He's out there. Just go get him.

I agree.

It was important whichever two players they drafted last night could come in and contribute next year.

If Olinemen at 31 is similar to other second rounds or even 3rd then it’s not even much of a discussion. My take is most people feel like the Vikes had a pretty solid night.

The Vikes also drafted Dru Samia last year in the 4th a big guard from Oklahoma. You just never hear much about the guys that “red shirt” their rookie year.

I would expect a couple of Oline pics in the middle rounds.

[team22tank]

Also hearing that the Vikings are in on Williams LT from Washington. With the number of draft picks the Vikes have they could reasonably give Washington a package they want.

Washington has been holding firm on their asking price, they don’t want to just give him a way. Sounds like the Browns are out.

Could be an interesting day.

[Border Gopher]

Jefferson seems to stick to shorter routes which is good for Kirk and his stats lol. His teammate coming out next year looks like an absolute beast compared to him in this video.

They said on NFL network that Jefferson is a slot receiver.... like Thielen.

He might be better in the slot, but he played on the outside until last season.

[ScoobyDoo]

Also hearing that the Vikings are in on Williams LT from Washington. With the number of draft picks the Vikes have they could reasonably give Washington a package they want.

Washington has been holding firm on their asking price, they don’t want to just give him a way. Sounds like the Browns are out.

Could be an interesting day.

Heard that as well. If they make that trade that does a lot to help the line out.

[Border Gopher]

Williams is looking for a payday. Are they able to fit him under the cap for the next few seasons?

[ScoobyDoo]

Williams is looking for a payday. Are they able to fit him under the cap for the next few seasons?

That could be a problem. Either way it doesn't change what they did in the draft last night.

Vikings newest wide receiver caught 92.3% of this contested targets in 2019. Best in college football.

[gopherguy13]

Jefferson seems to stick to shorter routes which is good for Kirk and his stats lol. His teammate coming out next year looks like an absolute beast compared to him in this video.

They said on NFL network that Jefferson is a slot receiver.... like Thielen.

He might be better in the slot, but he played on the outside until last season.

Plus, Thielen is definitely no slouch when split out wide.

[team22tank]

Jefferson seems to stick to shorter routes which is good for Kirk and his stats lol. His teammate coming out next year looks like an absolute beast compared to him in this video.

They said on NFL network that Jefferson is a slot receiver.... like Thielen.

He might be better in the slot, but he played on the outside until last season.

Plus, Thielen is definitely no slouch when split out wide.

It’s such a skills competition these days. So many of these guys are off the charts with their physical specs. They are a dime a dozen.

The real key is finding guys that can do all the little things to go with the physical gifts. So when I hear a guy is a slot receiver that tells me he knows how to run a route. Because you can’t play the slot otherwise.

Slot guys are just as physically gifted today as the outside guys. It’s no longer just the guy willing to go over the middle or get dirty.

So long story short. I like that’s how he is advertised, shows he can play some football.

[Beauner]

Need some OL help bigly

12 picks to use in a trade for LT Trent Williams

[Beauner]

Williams is looking for a payday. Are they able to fit him under the cap for the next few seasons?

If they trade for Williams it likely means Riley Rieff is either released or reworks his contract.
The other move that would make sense, money-wise, is trading Anthony Harris (currently $11 million cap hit with the franchise tag) if they are not able to reach a reasonable extension.

With the quality of safeties in the second round (Winfield, Delpit, McKinney) it would not shock me if they traded Harris, trade for Williams (maybe swap them in the trade since Washington essentially has Landon Collins and a black hole) and then moved up to nab one of those 3. Hopefully Winfield, as he seems to be the most flexible in terms of coverage etc.

[fightclub30]

Williams is looking for a payday. Are they able to fit him under the cap for the next few seasons?

If they trade for Williams it likely means Riley Rieff is either released or reworks his contract.
The other move that would make sense, money-wise, is trading Anthony Harris (currently $11 million cap hit with the franchise tag) if they are not able to reach a reasonable extension.

With the quality of safeties in the second round (Winfield, Delpit, McKinney) it would not shock me if they traded Harris, trade for Williams (maybe swap them in the trade since Washington essentially has Landon Collins and a black hole) and then moved up to nab one of those 3. Hopefully Winfield, as he seems to be the most flexible in terms of coverage etc.

Not even a sieve or a funnel or vacuum? Straight to black hole? he must really S**K!





man I miss hockey.

[gopherguy06]

Vikings take Ezra Cleveland (6’6” 311 lbs) with the 58th pick

[Bigbeer]

Vikings take Ezra Cleveland (6’6” 311 lbs) with the 58th pick

Sounds like he was projected first round and in many mocks they had us taking him at 22 or 25. This also apparently takes us out of contention for a T Williams trade as WAS wanted a 2nd rounder.

[Bertogliat]

Are the Vikings planning to draft 14 players? Last I saw there is a roster limit in the NFL.

It would be a huge waste to amass so many picks only to throw half away.

[Five-HoleFrenzy]

Are the Vikings planning to draft 14 players? Last I saw there is a roster limit in the NFL.

It would be a huge waste to amass so many picks only to throw half away.

Their draft has been pretty good so far. They will have a lot of flexibility to move up tomorrow if needed.

[gopherguy06]

Just traded again at 105. We have 13 picks tomorrow. I think I read we got 4 for our 3rd round pick.

[Bertogliat]

Are the Vikings planning to draft 14 players? Last I saw there is a roster limit in the NFL.

It would be a huge waste to amass so many picks only to throw half away.

Their draft has been pretty good so far. They will have a lot of flexibility to move up tomorrow if needed.

Other teams won’t need four 5th rounders either.


This is terrible.

[Beauner]

13 picks tomorrow. I'm guessing they'll trade some for 2021 picks.

[Bladepuller]

They'll go for some O & D line projects is my guess.

[gopherguy06]

Trade all of them for anorher 1st pick next year. Ha

[Five-HoleFrenzy]

Maybe it's "terrible" that the Vikings have 13 picks tomorrow but at least they haven't been the $#@!show that the Fudge Packers have been so far in this draft.

[CollegeHockeyAddict]

Man does Spielman like to trade down. Every year he trades down multiple times. I wouldn't be surprised if tomorrow Spielman trades down in effort to pick up 8th, 9th, and 10th round picks.

[Bertogliat]

Man does Spielman like to trade down. Every year he trades down multiple times. I wouldn't be surprised if tomorrow Spielman trades down in effort to pick up 8th, 9th, and 10th round picks.

I really don’t mind trading down. The patriots have been doing it forever.

But we don’t need, and can’t sign, the number of players the Vikings have left to draft. And I don’t think other teams are going to be wanting a bunch of the late round picks either. I guess we will see. Hoping for the best.

[CollegeHockeyAddict]

Man does Spielman like to trade down. Every year he trades down multiple times. I wouldn't be surprised if tomorrow Spielman trades down in effort to pick up 8th, 9th, and 10th round picks.

I really don’t mind trading down. The patriots have been doing it forever.

But we don’t need, and can’t sign, the number of players the Vikings have left to draft. And I don’t think other teams are going to be wanting a bunch of the late round picks either. I guess we will see. Hoping for the best.

Yes the Patriots have been doing it but this year's draft was strong in the second and third rounds. Not surprisingly the Patriots made trades to accumulate extra 2nd and 3rd round picks. They ended up making five picks in those two rounds this years. The Vikings had chances with the extra picks they had coming in to the draft do to look to make hay in rounds 2 and 3 but instead they traded back to accumulate extra picks in rounds 4-7 which are much more of a crap shoot. If you look through Spielman's previous drafts you will see he always has extra picks in these late rounds and very little of importance has come of it. I hope this year things work out different but NFL track record says teams win based on players picked in round 1-4 not 5-7. Plus most of the picks they've accumulated are late picks in each round.

[Border Gopher]

Spielman has made a Day 2 trade in each of the past six drafts, after initially being unwilling to trade up in the second round and unable to trade up in the third round on Friday.

“We wanted to be aggressive,” Spielman said. “We just couldn’t get a trade partner to deal with us.”

Because of the coronavirus pandemic, this was different. Spielman continued to stockpile late-round picks to get ahead of undrafted free agency starting Saturday night, when NFL executives, scouts and coaches might struggle to cast a coordinated net while sequestered in their homes.

“Having this amount of picks alleviates some of that stress in college free agency, just because of the situation we’re dealing with right now,” Spielman said. “A lot of those guys that we like, if they did get to free agency you’d have to be battling with [other teams].”

https://www.startribune.com/vikings-tak ... 569940452/

[J22]

Spielman has made a Day 2 trade in each of the past six drafts, after initially being unwilling to trade up in the second round and unable to trade up in the third round on Friday.

“We wanted to be aggressive,” Spielman said. “We just couldn’t get a trade partner to deal with us.”

Because of the coronavirus pandemic, this was different. Spielman continued to stockpile late-round picks to get ahead of undrafted free agency starting Saturday night, when NFL executives, scouts and coaches might struggle to cast a coordinated net while sequestered in their homes.

“Having this amount of picks alleviates some of that stress in college free agency, just because of the situation we’re dealing with right now,” Spielman said. “A lot of those guys that we like, if they did get to free agency you’d have to be battling with [other teams].”

https://www.startribune.com/vikings-tak ... 569940452/

Instead of using the picks on the guys that everyone wants, we traded them for more picks to be used on the guys that nobody plans on drafting. That's the logic? Seriously?

[Bonin21]

Ya that sounds ridiculous

[gopherguy06]

Was hoping Bartch would drop to us but like some of the picks today

[ScoobyDoo]

Picks have been fine. I would have drafted another offensive lineman by now though. Hopefully they draft a bunch of those and practice squad some of them. They need youth and depth there for once.

[gopherguy06]

Yeah was hoping for a couple by now instead of the one.

Seems like Williams went to SF for decent price. Two picks

[Bigbeer]

Yeah was hoping for a couple by now instead of the one.

Seems like Williams went to SF for decent price. Two picks

Williams says he did not veto a trade to Vikings, Rappaport came back and stood behind his story that Williams definitely did....is it possible he didn’t want to play with Cousins again?

SF got him for a 5 this year and a 3 next year, I would think we would do that if we could make the money work.

Also seeing that Spielman was desperately trying to move up in the first and second rounds but couldn’t work out deals. I believe they tried to move up to take Jefferson because they thought PHI was gonna take him, couldn’t and then he fell them anyway.

[Five-HoleFrenzy]

Very good 4th round for the Vikings and then...

5th round...Not so good.