NHL 2019-20 season

[gopher6]

Pavelski to Stars?
https://www.nhl.com/news/joe-pavelski-v ... =281072352

[Master_Shake]

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/270 ... ffer-sheet

Would love to have seen the Wild try and pull this off.

[ScoobyDoo]

Pavelski to Stars?
https://www.nhl.com/news/joe-pavelski-v ... =281072352

Corey Perry too. Colorado and the Stars are going to be very good.

[J22]

Pavelski to Stars?
https://www.nhl.com/news/joe-pavelski-v ... =281072352

Corey Perry too. Colorado and the Stars are going to be very good.

Ryan Hartman has as many goals as Corey Perry does over the last 3 years

[J22]

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/270 ... ffer-sheet

Would love to have seen the Wild try and pull this off.

All that really accomplished is now Montreal can't try to sign any of the other UFA's.

[gopher6]

So I will correct my post, Vanek is a free agent will he retire?

[ex_goldy]

Sad story about down and out ex nhl top pick-
/https://www.freep.com/in-depth/sports/c ... 1878370001

[trixR4kids]

Sad story about down and out ex nhl top pick-
/https://www.freep.com/in-depth/sports/c ... 1878370001

I assume that's the same story I read months ago but it's a good read and definitely sad. Hopefully there's been some positive progress in his situation.

[Vegoe]

Corey Pronman farm system rankings are coming out. He had Clayton Phillips at No. 10 for Pitt in 2018, but not on the list going into this year.

https://theathletic.com/446764/2018/08/ ... -penguins/

"Phillips is a great skater, one of the best in college hockey, and has the skill to make plays. I don’t love his decision making and overall hockey sense though."

Probably still true!

Penn St. forward Nikita Pavlychev is on the list at No. 10 this year.

https://theathletic.com/1128904/2019/08 ... -penguins/

Rem Pitlick showed up on Nashville's list at No. 6 as a 'legit NHL prospect,' not sure why his size always gets brought up as he's a bit of a tank at 5'10" and 200 lbs.

https://theathletic.com/1134387/2019/08 ... =twittered

[Bonin21]

Based on the body of work the last season and a half Phillips on that list still would have been ridiculous.

[gopher6]

Jim Bowers former National Anthem singer for MN Northstars passed away at 84

[Vegoe]

Noticed today that @SBurkie1 no longer exists on twitter... so that's fun.

[J22]

Noticed today that @SBurkie1 no longer exists on twitter... so that's fun.

He's 100% right

[ScoobyDoo]

Noticed today that @SBurkie1 no longer exists on twitter... so that's fun.

He's 100% right

No he's not. Journalists need more than one source but none of the sources need be named. I guarantee everyone who has been quoted as unnamed has been dual sourced.

Fenton deserves everything he is getting.

[J22]

Noticed today that @SBurkie1 no longer exists on twitter... so that's fun.

He's 100% right

No he's not. Journalists need more than one source but none of the sources need be named. I guarantee everyone who has been quoted as unnamed has been dual sourced.

Fenton deserves everything he is getting.

You don't have any sources if they're not named. Your guarantee is worthless. Fenton deserving it or not has nothing to do with it.

[ScoobyDoo]

Noticed today that @SBurkie1 no longer exists on twitter... so that's fun.

He's 100% right

No he's not. Journalists need more than one source but none of the sources need be named. I guarantee everyone who has been quoted as unnamed has been dual sourced.

Fenton deserves everything he is getting.

You don't have any sources if they're not named. Your guarantee is worthless. Fenton deserving it or not has nothing to do with it.

If the paper only quoted named sources it would be blank. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.

[J22]

Noticed today that @SBurkie1 no longer exists on twitter... so that's fun.

He's 100% right

No he's not. Journalists need more than one source but none of the sources need be named. I guarantee everyone who has been quoted as unnamed has been dual sourced.

Fenton deserves everything he is getting.

You don't have any sources if they're not named. Your guarantee is worthless. Fenton deserving it or not has nothing to do with it.

If the paper only quoted named sources it would be blank. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Not sure if you're actually serious with that take, but yes, most journalists do in fact name the person that they are quoting. I understand that there are situations where you won't be able to get people to go on the record, but then you can't quote them. Russo got lazy and someone called him on it.

[ScoobyDoo]

I don't see the difference between attributing it to an unnamed source and just paraphrasing and reporting it anyway. Same thing. As Russo told Fenton a thousand times when he blew up at his employees about leaks, Russo ultimately got the information from someone outside the Wild organization.

Ultimately I would guess most things that are insider information are sourced but not named. Why? Because these people want to keep their jobs.

[trixR4kids]

Lol J22

[Bertogliat]

Noticed today that @SBurkie1 no longer exists on twitter... so that's fun.

He's 100% right

No he's not. Journalists need more than one source but none of the sources need be named. I guarantee everyone who has been quoted as unnamed has been dual sourced.

Fenton deserves everything he is getting.

You don't have any sources if they're not named. Your guarantee is worthless. Fenton deserving it or not has nothing to do with it.

If the paper only quoted named sources it would be blank. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Not sure if you're actually serious with that take, but yes, most journalists do in fact name the person that they are quoting. I understand that there are situations where you won't be able to get people to go on the record, but then you can't quote them. Russo got lazy and someone called him on it.

If they call the unnamed source “deepthroat” will you feel better about it?

Unnamed sources are sometimes necessary.

[J22]

Noticed today that @SBurkie1 no longer exists on twitter... so that's fun.

He's 100% right

No he's not. Journalists need more than one source but none of the sources need be named. I guarantee everyone who has been quoted as unnamed has been dual sourced.

Fenton deserves everything he is getting.

You don't have any sources if they're not named. Your guarantee is worthless. Fenton deserving it or not has nothing to do with it.

If the paper only quoted named sources it would be blank. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Not sure if you're actually serious with that take, but yes, most journalists do in fact name the person that they are quoting. I understand that there are situations where you won't be able to get people to go on the record, but then you can't quote them. Russo got lazy and someone called him on it.

If they call the unnamed source “deepthroat” will you feel better about it?

Unnamed sources are sometimes necessary.

In Russo's article about Fenton he quotes unnamed sources 17 times. He quotes an actual person 0 times. That's just lazy, bad journalism.

I'm not saying it isn't true, and I'm certainly not saying that Fenton doesn't deserve to get roasted, but that doesn't make it good writing/reporting. Russo has become just like his buddy Souhan where he now thinks that he's part of the story.

[Butters Stotch]

He's 100% right

No he's not. Journalists need more than one source but none of the sources need be named. I guarantee everyone who has been quoted as unnamed has been dual sourced.

Fenton deserves everything he is getting.

You don't have any sources if they're not named. Your guarantee is worthless. Fenton deserving it or not has nothing to do with it.

If the paper only quoted named sources it would be blank. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Not sure if you're actually serious with that take, but yes, most journalists do in fact name the person that they are quoting. I understand that there are situations where you won't be able to get people to go on the record, but then you can't quote them. Russo got lazy and someone called him on it.

If they call the unnamed source “deepthroat” will you feel better about it?

Unnamed sources are sometimes necessary.

In Russo's article about Fenton he quotes unnamed sources 17 times. He quotes an actual person 0 times. That's just lazy, bad journalism.

I'm not saying it isn't true, and I'm certainly not saying that Fenton doesn't deserve to get roasted, but that doesn't make it good writing/reporting. Russo has become just like his buddy Souhan where he now thinks that he's part of the story.

As unpopular as it may be, I'm going to have to agree with J22 on this one.

[Steve MN]

That's not lazy journalism, that's protecting sources. Stories like this frequently don't have anyone willing to be quoted, so what do you do, not say anything if nobody is willing to go on the record? One unnamed source is, in all but the rarest of situations, not something you can do a story from. But, if you've got multiple people all saying the same thing about an environment where any story that comes out sets the GM in question to raging about leaks... are you surprised that nobody is willing to be named as a source?

[J22]

That's not lazy journalism, that's protecting sources. Stories like this frequently don't have anyone willing to be quoted, so what do you do, not say anything if nobody is willing to go on the record? One unnamed source is, in all but the rarest of situations, not something you can do a story from. But, if you've got multiple people all saying the same thing about an environment where any story that comes out sets the GM in question to raging about leaks... are you surprised that nobody is willing to be named as a source?

How do you know he has multiple people saying the same thing?

I'm not surprise that there were people that were not willing to be quoted in this story. There are also multiple chances to have actual quotes and he failed at every opportunity. You can't insinuate that Zucker and Staal both told you something and then not have a direct quote. Where is the Leipold quote pertaining to Fenton wanting to fire Boudreau?

[Thirty-Four]

The owner himself said all that was need to be said by firing the goof. He also hired said goof. As far as people willing to be quoted directly, there is a reason there are whistleblower laws to protect people in certain situations. The owner and organization are moving on from Fenton, maybe Wild fans should follow suit. It was an abysmal hire and thankfully for all involved with the Wild, it's over.

[ScoobyDoo]

https://theathletic.com/1141297/2019/08 ... from-pack/

This article about Bill Guerin being interviewed a second time cites "sources" without naming them as well. Russo should be drawn and quartered for writing it. Feel free like I am to post links to any NHL article that cites sources without naming them. Maybe we can change what happens every single day.

[Steve MN]

https://theathletic.com/1141297/2019/08 ... from-pack/

This article about Bill Guerin being interviewed a second time cites "sources" without naming them as well. Russo should be drawn and quartered for writing it. Feel free like I am to post links to any NHL article that cites sources without naming them. Maybe we can change what happens every single day.

I know I don't need to convince you... but this happens every day, in every newspaper, on almost any topic.

[sec 16 row16 seat 16 17]

the hockey news has tampa and vegas for the cup with tampa the victor

[frozen4champs]

the hockey news has tampa and vegas for the cup with tampa the victor

and the Wild last in the central

[ex_goldy]

Seasons over

[streakygopher]

Seasons over

That's what Bears' fans are saying...radio blowing up today in Chicago.

Wild fans will be there by Christmas.

[george]

Pierre McGuire gone from NBC's top team. He'll still work them but not on the top team.

[D2D]

What's up with Byfuglien?

http://www.startribune.com/winnipeg-s-dustin-byfuglien-granted-leave-of-absence-no-reason-given/560332292/

[Thirty-Four]

What's up with Byfuglien?

http://www.startribune.com/winnipeg-s-dustin-byfuglien-granted-leave-of-absence-no-reason-given/560332292/

Getting his GED now that he’s learned to read this offseason?

[Grovetown Scotty]

Was just watching NHL top 10 goaltenders right now on the NHL network. Ben Bishop #3. Dallas got him for a 4th round pick in 2017. Too bad the Wild couldn’t have made a better offer.

[Bertogliat]

Was just watching NHL top 10 goaltenders right now on the NHL network. Ben Bishop #3. Dallas got him for a 4th round pick in 2017. Too bad the Wild couldn’t have made a better offer.

Wouldn’t the Wild then have $9M in goaltenders?

[Grovetown Scotty]

Was just watching NHL top 10 goaltenders right now on the NHL network. Ben Bishop #3. Dallas got him for a 4th round pick in 2017. Too bad the Wild couldn’t have made a better offer.

Wouldn’t the Wild then have $9M in goaltenders?

I guess when they signed Dubnyk to a six year deal they handcuffed themselves to a mediocre goalie with no hope of upgrading.

[team22tank]

Was just watching NHL top 10 goaltenders right now on the NHL network. Ben Bishop #3. Dallas got him for a 4th round pick in 2017. Too bad the Wild couldn’t have made a better offer.

Wouldn’t the Wild then have $9M in goaltenders?

I guess when they signed Dubnyk to a six year deal they handcuffed themselves to a mediocre goalie with no hope of upgrading.

The way your first post laid it out is to simple and misleading. Not saying that it was intentional but there is more to consider.

Bishop was traded at the deadline of that year from Tampa to LA Kings. Bishop would be a free agent at the conclusion of that season 2017. Tampa wouldn’t be able to resign him so they moved him and there was also expansion draft to consider. Tampa got a pretty good return for him from the Kings.

At the conclusion of the 2017 season the The Kings traded him to Dallas with an expiring contract. The Stars were signing a free agent and getting a one month head start to sign him before he hit the market. They weren’t signing Bishop with a contract and term in place. Because he is the guy and got a nice contract a deal was done.

If that same scenario were to take place for the Wild we would have had to offer more than a 4th round pick. And I highly doubt Bishop signs with the Wild knowing there were places where he would be the sole #1 and get a better deal since the Wild already had Dubnyk locked in.

[Grovetown Scotty]

I would say with the addition of Pavelski the Stars might be the best team in the Western Conference.

[Thirty-Four]

Blues trade for Faulk, sign him for 7.5 million less than Spurgeon.

[Grovetown Scotty]

Canes get D Joel Edmundson and 2018 1st rounder Dominik Bokk a winger.

[bearpaw28]

Blues trade for Faulk, sign him for 7.5 million less than Spurgeon.

I like Faulk...but he will be a 3rd pair D when Perunovich arrives for the playoffs

[Bonin21]

We get it

[Grovetown Scotty]

Preseason Stanley cup final predictions anyone?

I’ll take Dallas in the West and Tampa Bay in the east.

Stars to win cup

[frozen4champs]

Tampa in the east over Toronto, and in the west I will take Vegas over Nashville. I will go with Vegas to win the Cup

[sec 16 row16 seat 16 17]

Toronto east vegas west golden knights win the cup

[bearpaw28]

Preseason Stanley cup final predictions anyone?

I’ll take Dallas in the West and Tampa Bay in the east.

Stars to win cup

Agree except this is the year Tampa hoists the Cup (at least on paper)

[uofm86]

Toronto in the east, Colorado in the west - Toronto to win the Cup.

[ScoobyDoo]

Preseason Stanley cup final predictions anyone?

I’ll take Dallas in the West and Tampa Bay in the east.

Stars to win cup

Good. If Dallas is in it I don't have to watch it. Didn't watch it last year either. Saves time.

[Bonin21]

Blues have basically the same team, upgrading Edmundson to Faulk. They should be a top four team in the west for sure.

[team22tank]

Blues have basically the same team, upgrading Edmundson to Faulk. They should be a top four team in the west for sure.

If Binnington posts a .927 save percentage for sure.

If he drops below, say, .920. They will be another team.

[Bonin21]

Righhhtttttttt

.920 would be 11th in goalies that started more than 10 games last year lmao

[team22tank]

Righhhtttttttt

.920 would be 11th in goalies that started more than 10 games last year lmao

BELOW

Yeah having a drop from a .927 to sub .920 wouldn’t hurt at all.

Come on 12

[Bonin21]

So who is your top 4 in the west?

[Grovetown Scotty]

Dallas
Las Vegas
St. Louis
Nashville

[Greyeagle]

It's nice to have Doc back on my TV. SUCH CHAOS!!!!

[trixR4kids]

So who is your top 4 in the west?

Most projections I've seen have the Blues in the top 4 of the west and in one case #1.

Actually this tweet averages them all out and has them just barely behind Vegas for 2nd in the west.

[Grovetown Scotty]

Nice start for the Golden Knights beating the Sharks 4-1 at home and 5-1 in San Jose.

[sec 16 row16 seat 16 17]

Nice start for the Golden Knights beating the Sharks 4-1 at home and 5-1 in San Jose.

watched both games sharks look slow d was horrible vegas looks good

[Bonin21]

4-3 in the first between TOR and TBL with all the superstars getting in on the action. Nice to dream of having one of those guys in MN.

[Thirty-Four]

The Blues stunk last night. I just wanted to make that known.

[grothm01]

Must have taken a cue from the Cardinals.

[Bonin21]

[gopher6]

Not sure where to post this but a KHL coach threatened to burn a refs car
https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/279 ... rn-ref-car

[Snowcool08]

Calgary and Winnipeg playing an outdoor game, in Saskatchewan, in October. It’s snowing too, so it doesn’t look like it’s too early in the season.

[gopher6]

Sharks Kane sued by Vegas casino for not paying back 500k gambling credit
https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/280 ... ng-credits

[Steve MN]

Sharks Kane sued by Vegas casino for not paying back 500k gambling credit
https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/280 ... ng-credits

He's lucky they're just suing to recover. Unless they've changed the rules recently, that can you get jailed in Nevada.

[fightclub30]

Sharks Kane sued by Vegas casino for not paying back 500k gambling credit
https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/280 ... ng-credits

He's lucky they're just suing to recover. Unless they've changed the rules recently, that can get you jailed kneecapped in Nevada.

This might be more accurate...

[Steve MN]

Sharks Kane sued by Vegas casino for not paying back 500k gambling credit
https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/280 ... ng-credits

He's lucky they're just suing to recover. Unless they've changed the rules recently, that can get you jailed kneecapped in Nevada.

This might be more accurate...

LOL. Not so much any more, but certainly in the past.

[bearpaw28]

Sharks Kane sued by Vegas casino for not paying back 500k gambling credit
https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/280 ... ng-credits

He's lucky they're just suing to recover. Unless they've changed the rules recently, that can get you jailed kneecapped in Nevada.

This might be more accurate...

LOL. Not so much any more, but certainly in the past.

I don’t think Evander would be skipping out on this gambling debt...if Ace & Nicky were still running the CASINO

[YoungEagle]

Leafs fire Babcock....... I get it but still he’s a damn good coach.

[Greyeagle]

Leafs fire Babcock....... I get it but still he’s a damn good coach.

Wonder if the Wild will make a move?

[Karlsson]

Bobby Ryan takes leave of absence and enters NHL player assistance program. Not good.

[Thirty-Four]

Leafs fire Babcock....... I get it but still he’s a damn good coach.

Wonder if the Wild will make a move?

IF they are hellbent on making a run with the old core, they should be on the horn. He could get this current team in the playoffs.

[Chris83]

Leafs fire Babcock....... I get it but still he’s a damn good coach.

I was listening to NHL radio on Sirius last night on the way home from work and they were speculating he was toast.