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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by bearpaw28 » Sat Dec 07 9:59 am

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Hasn't the knock on him been that he disappears in the playoffs - especially as any sort of physical presence?

Not trying to take him down on the whole, but if that is true he needs to show he can prove that wrong.
That’s exactly (the accurate) knock in Brodin, he’s a fabulous skater, and a terrific regular season player. But when the physicality ramps up 1st round of the playoffs (literally) about 50% he gets the crap beat out of him in the corners. That’s why he’s such an intriguing player to trade...because we most likely could/will get a really good player (for Brodin) ☝️

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by streakygopher » Sat Dec 07 11:30 am

bearpaw28 wrote:
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Slap Shot wrote:
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Hasn't the knock on him been that he disappears in the playoffs - especially as any sort of physical presence?

Not trying to take him down on the whole, but if that is true he needs to show he can prove that wrong.
That’s exactly (the accurate) knock in Brodin, he’s a fabulous skater, and a terrific regular season player. But when the physicality ramps up 1st round of the playoffs (literally) about 50% he gets the crap beat out of him in the corners. That’s why he’s such an intriguing player to trade...because we most likely could/will get a really good player (for Brodin) ☝️
You can say that about Spurgeon too and probably half the team come playoff time, starting with the incredibly shrinking Dubnyk, who begins his annual molt come April. Koivu will always endure the knocks for not scoring, but he is a good example for the other cupcakes to follow. He knows how to play nasty without being a dick like Marchand.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by team22tank » Sat Dec 07 11:53 am

streakygopher wrote:
Sat Dec 07 11:30 am
bearpaw28 wrote:
Sat Dec 07 9:59 am
Slap Shot wrote:
Fri Dec 06 4:44 pm
Hasn't the knock on him been that he disappears in the playoffs - especially as any sort of physical presence?

Not trying to take him down on the whole, but if that is true he needs to show he can prove that wrong.
That’s exactly (the accurate) knock in Brodin, he’s a fabulous skater, and a terrific regular season player. But when the physicality ramps up 1st round of the playoffs (literally) about 50% he gets the crap beat out of him in the corners. That’s why he’s such an intriguing player to trade...because we most likely could/will get a really good player (for Brodin) ☝️
You can say that about Spurgeon too and probably half the team come playoff time, starting with the incredibly shrinking Dubnyk, who begins his annual molt come April. Koivu will always endure the knocks for not scoring, but he is a good example for the other cupcakes to follow. He knows how to play nasty without being a dick like Marchand.
The playoff woes have been noted over the years. But nothing comes even remotely close to being issue #1 to their inability to score.

Players that went completely MIA were Zucker biggest by far, Coyle, Nino. Granlund’s playoff numbers weren’t awful but quite a dip from his regular season production.

I would say second has been the untimely and weak goals given up by Dubnyk.

Keeping pucks out of the net has not been the issue for the Wild in the playoffs.

I personally have no appetite to trade Brodin. Having 5 legit D is such a huge asset. Pateryn hasn’t been close to playing this year and I would say the Wild’s depth has been incredible even without him.

Brodin will never put up the numbers like Dumba, Suter and Spurgeon. Which is a bit of a blessing in disguise because he will never command a monster contract. But he does so many things extremely well.

Having said that the Wild will have to decide how to maneuver the next expansion draft.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Bonin21 » Sat Dec 07 7:59 pm

Caufield goals 11 and 12 oops wrong thread

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Slap Shot » Sat Dec 07 8:02 pm

I don't have a Gophers feed today so have watched some of the Wild. Not having the luck they had last night and they are getting outplayed. I'd lay the 1st goal given up on Stalock, but the other 3 not sure he had a chance. Wild PP has been brutal.
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by streakygopher » Sun Dec 08 12:25 pm

Slap Shot wrote:
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I don't have a Gophers feed today so have watched some of the Wild. Not having the luck they had last night and they are getting outplayed. I'd lay the 1st goal given up on Stalock, but the other 3 not sure he had a chance. Wild PP has been brutal.
I think they petered out after a long road stretch...good run, but Carolina pressed all game and refused to lose.

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Aho is better than anyone the Wild have under contract or in the pipeline.
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Post by gopher6 » Tue Dec 10 9:16 am

I was hearing on KFAN yesterday the Wild will have the Winter classic 2021 at Target Field

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Post by SkiUMahLaw » Tue Dec 10 9:36 am

Wow- Jim Montgomery dismissed as Dallas Stars head coach. Official Team Twitter has it. "Unprofessional Conduct".

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Damn that unprofessional conduct stealing that recruit from Motzko finally caught up to him.
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by frozen4champs » Tue Dec 10 10:28 am

SkiUMahLaw wrote:
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Wow- Jim Montgomery dismissed as Dallas Stars head coach. Official Team Twitter has it. "Unprofessional Conduct".
Well, that experiment did not work out well.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Bladepuller » Tue Dec 10 3:36 pm

While not a lot of local kids go to the WHL of the CHL and play major juniors, a lot of kids from the WHL are in the NHL.
It is kind of an " all in " bet when you are 16, or so.
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Vegasgopher » Tue Dec 10 7:18 pm

Bunch of home games coming up and it starts tonight ...time to make hay

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Post by Bigbeer » Tue Dec 10 7:23 pm

The tribute to Koivu was pretty cool. Great to see the former players that were in the building for it, especially Gabby.
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2-0 Ducks.
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Staal injured by linesman.
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

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Booooooooo

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Booooooooo
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Vegasgopher » Tue Dec 10 8:11 pm

So...that little burst of wild sunshine we saw the last month was either:

-the best they'll play all season and the rest will be .500 at best and chasing that coveted 8 seed all year

Or

-just them surviving an unbelievably difficult road schedule and they take off from here and "super bowl homeboy"

Or

-They continue to get hurt we go completely in the tank and we are selling everything including the Zamboni by valenatines day

Or

- I could really give a rip, when's the outback bowl again??!

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Post by Kelor » Tue Dec 10 8:26 pm

1 Shot on goal 25 minutes into the game?

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1 Shot on goal 25 minutes into the game?
It's worse than it sounds.
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Vegasgopher » Tue Dec 10 8:29 pm

Don't remember the 1

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Post by Kelor » Tue Dec 10 8:29 pm

I'm not sure I've ever seen such shot mediocrity in any home game of any team before. Even when the Gophers dominated Anchorage. I wonder what the record low shots on goal in a home game has ever been after 30 minutes?

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I'm not sure I've ever seen such shot mediocrity in any home game of any team before. Even when the Gophers dominated Anchorage. I wonder what the record low shots on goal in a home game has ever been after 30 minutes?
It's zero for a period I saw.
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Post by Kelor » Tue Dec 10 8:32 pm

We just got a shot on goal! 2nd shot in 27 minutes. Crowd goes wild!

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Post by Kelor » Tue Dec 10 8:35 pm

Well, I guess that continues to prove that shots on goal matters. We just had the weakest of shots from the boards go in!

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by MNGophers29 » Tue Dec 10 8:40 pm

.750 save percentage for the Ducks tendy after the 4th shot on net. Now he is up to .800 more than halfway through the game.

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Post by Iceburg » Tue Dec 10 8:42 pm

Kelor wrote:
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I'm not sure I've ever seen such shot mediocrity in any home game of any team before. Even when the Gophers dominated Anchorage. I wonder what the record low shots on goal in a home game has ever been after 30 minutes?
Didn't have much luck. Found an article from 2000 when the Maple Leafs had six shots in a game. That was the record at that point in time. Didn't know the NHL has only been tracking SOG since 1955.
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Post by fightclub30 » Tue Dec 10 10:05 pm

The Wild deserved none of that game but managed a loser point thanks to an extremely soft goal from Gibson.

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Post by gopher6 » Wed Dec 11 12:27 pm

I have never heard of a NHL team to only have 2 shots on net after 2 periods

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by frozen4champs » Wed Dec 11 4:29 pm

It is Gerry time part 2 as wild recall Gerald Mayhew from Iowa. Still no word on Staal injury.

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Top 5 best point ever

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Post by Grovetown Scotty » Wed Dec 11 8:52 pm

Russo is saying Staal has a stinger and may try to practice tomorrow. I thought you had to be a Edina alum to have a stinger.

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Russo is saying Staal has a stinger and may try to practice tomorrow. I thought you had to be a Edina alum to have a stinger.
Well, he lives here now so....

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Post by ScoobyDoo » Thu Dec 12 7:45 am

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Russo is saying Staal has a stinger and may try to practice tomorrow. I thought you had to be a Edina alum to have a stinger.
That's good news.
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by frozen4champs » Thu Dec 12 11:53 am

Going with rookie goalie again tonight. Looks like Menell in again as Seeler has found his way to the press box again.


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Post by bearpaw28 » Thu Dec 12 9:25 pm

Protecting a 3rd period lead not exactly the specialty of the Wild in 19-20 :crazy:

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Greyeagle » Thu Dec 12 9:34 pm

Ericksson Ek completely abused the Oiler dman on the Wild’s 6th goal. Great play.
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Post by bearpaw28 » Thu Dec 12 9:37 pm

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Ericksson Ek completely abused the Oiler dman on the Wild’s 6th goal. Great play.
Terrific forecheck on the 6th goal 👍 Nice passes by Zucker & Suter & great finish by Staal on 5th goal ☝️
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Ericksson Ek completely abused the Oiler dman on the Wild’s 6th goal. Great play.
14 is a blast to watch.

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Post by bearpaw28 » Thu Dec 12 9:42 pm

EE, Greenway & Kunin got the job done in the clutch tonight :good2: :dup:

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Ericksson Ek completely abused the Oiler dman on the Wild’s 6th goal. Great play.
14 is a blast to watch.
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Post by Grovetown Scotty » Thu Dec 12 9:50 pm

Soucy is becoming a solid NHL defenseman. +4 tonight.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by streakygopher » Thu Dec 12 11:00 pm

Greenway-Ek-Kunin...I'm liking their line a lot...good old fashioned hockey.

Nurse was kind of dick all night because he was getting away with it (refs didn't bother calling the two handed slash he gave to Greenway after his goal). Glad to see Greenway step in when the team needed him. He's not much of a fighter, but that kid is solid and tough.

That last goal by Edmonton with their goalie pulled was pretty bad. The team needs to figure out how to close out these games.

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Post by Slap Shot » Fri Dec 13 7:34 am

Norm Green still sucks. 25 years ago today.



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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Greyeagle » Fri Dec 13 8:10 am

Slap Shot wrote:
Fri Dec 13 7:34 am
Norm Green still sucks. 25 years ago today.



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I still miss The Met. It was the X of the 60s, an arena designed for hockey first.
I don't miss the Civic Center, that was an arena built for camping shows.
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Slap Shot » Fri Dec 13 8:14 am

Greyeagle wrote:
Fri Dec 13 8:10 am
Slap Shot wrote:
Fri Dec 13 7:34 am
Norm Green still sucks. 25 years ago today.



:x :evil: :censored: :chainsaw: :anger: :ahhh: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
I still miss The Met. It was the X of the 60s, an arena designed for hockey first.
I don't miss the Civic Center, that was an arena built for camping shows.
Yeah I think Civic Center for hockey is missed from a nostalgia angle only. When they still had clear boards, the one class state tourney, etc.

The Met was wonderful for hockey - the fans were right on top of the surface and while I only to skate on it a few times the consensus was generally it always had great ice.

For a kid born in 1967 that grew up playing hockey in Minnesota, the North Stars (and Gophers) were everything. Bigger than life. So many cold winter nights fighting to stay awake in bed listening to Al Shaver call the game - every bit as exciting as the rare times you could watch them on TV. I was lucky enough to see several games at the Met during the 1981 SC run, and somewhere in the basement GOAL magazines are collecting dust in a box (that I shold get to some day). Norm Green was not unique as a cold-blooded asshole, but he crushed souls. I try like hell to rekindle those same feelings for the Wild, and while I support them it will sadly never be the same.
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by ScoobyDoo » Fri Dec 13 8:19 am

I had season tickets during that era. They were dirt cheap and on sale when Norm took over. I shook his hand in the concourse when I was at a game one time. He was kind of a hero for buying the team and saving them.

Then he had his "sex" problem and took them to Dallas and we all found out he was pure drip slime.
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Post by JWG » Fri Dec 13 9:37 am

I certainly do not like Norm Green, but I really blame the NHL more than him. It is a shame that the league allowed the move to happen for what were such controversial reasons with, what seemed like, not any quesiton or push back. I don't know that anyone would admit it was a mistake, but the quickness with which MN was given an expansion franchise answers that question. It only took 4 years to announce hockey's return.
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Grovetown Scotty » Fri Dec 13 9:40 am

Slap Shot wrote:
Fri Dec 13 8:14 am
Greyeagle wrote:
Fri Dec 13 8:10 am
Slap Shot wrote:
Fri Dec 13 7:34 am
Norm Green still sucks. 25 years ago today.



:x :evil: :censored: :chainsaw: :anger: :ahhh: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
I still miss The Met. It was the X of the 60s, an arena designed for hockey first.
I don't miss the Civic Center, that was an arena built for camping shows.
Yeah I think Civic Center for hockey is missed from a nostalgia angle only. When they still had clear boards, the one class state tourney, etc.

The Met was wonderful for hockey - the fans were right on top of the surface and while I only to skate on it a few times the consensus was generally it always had great ice.

For a kid born in 1967 that grew up playing hockey in Minnesota, the North Stars (and Gophers) were everything. Bigger than life. So many cold winter nights fighting to stay awake in bed listening to Al Shaver call the game - every bit as exciting as the rare times you could watch them on TV. I was lucky enough to see several games at the Met during the 1981 SC run, and somewhere in the basement GOAL magazines are collecting dust in a box (that I shold get to some day). Norm Green was not unique as a cold-blooded asshole, but he crushed souls. I try like hell to rekindle those same feelings for the Wild, and while I support them it will sadly never be the same.
Met Center was great. Was known by the players of having some of the best ice in the NHL. You could tailgate.

I was a huge North Star fan and eventually have become a Wild fan. I have never liked the "Wild"as a team name. Stupid name. Almost as stupid as Leipold. :wink:
What a shame that they destroyed an awesome hockey building to build a shopping mall.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by team22tank » Fri Dec 13 11:21 am

streakygopher wrote:
Thu Dec 12 11:00 pm
Greenway-Ek-Kunin...I'm liking their line a lot...good old fashioned hockey.

Nurse was kind of dick all night because he was getting away with it (refs didn't bother calling the two handed slash he gave to Greenway after his goal). Glad to see Greenway step in when the team needed him. He's not much of a fighter, but that kid is solid and tough.

That last goal by Edmonton with their goalie pulled was pretty bad. The team needs to figure out how to close out these games.
Greenway took a few more punches but he landed the one that counted right on Nurse’s kisser.

That line has been fun to watch. They are playing hard, for each other, ect. And they are shutting down other teams top guns.

Which means Koivu doesn’t have to and can shut down whoever he is up against. Which is great for Parise and Fiala because neither should be playing against other teams top lines when it comes to D.

I am still nervous about the goaltending situation and if it can be stable enough.

But right now they are playing well and really do a good job when at home. And as soon as they go on this little 3 game road trip they will be playing at home a lot.

Oh and one more thing, Donato. Good for him to stick with it and now starting to see some success. Man did he rip that one right by the goalie last night. 2-1, he could have tried to get it to the vet goal scorer Parise but he new he had a good look and ripped it.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by team22tank » Fri Dec 13 11:50 am

Holy smokes are Granlund, Nino and Coyle all having poor seasons. Coyle actually not to bad he is a 40 point guy, 15 goal guy and he is on pace for 39 points 14 goals.

Granlund mid 35 points projection and Nino just brutal.

Funny that people were calling the trades after about 20 games when the Wild were at their lowest point in 7 years and had permanent injuries to Dumba and Koivu.

As if that was the permanent state of the franchise moving forward. Now you don’t hear a peep about them. #Rubes.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by ScoobyDoo » Fri Dec 13 12:27 pm

It has nothing to do with the players traded performance last season or this season. It has everything to do with the value received. Rask is way overpaid for a 4th line center. Both the Coyle and the Granlund trades should have had draft picks coming to the Wild.

Please get the story straight.
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by team22tank » Fri Dec 13 12:38 pm

ScoobyDoo wrote:
Fri Dec 13 12:27 pm
It has nothing to do with the players traded performance last season or this season. It has everything to do with the value received. Rask is way overpaid for a 4th line center. Both the Coyle and the Granlund trades should have had draft picks coming to the Wild.

Please get the story straight.
Really? You might want to to circle back and look at the responses.

And we did get a pick along with Donato for Coyle.

I said it from the beginning, Granlund’s value is going to be diminished by the fact he is essentially a one year rental. No one is selling a legit player prospect in Fiala and giving pick(s).

The Preds can lock him up if they so choose for $ and term or he walks and they just lost Fiala for nothing. Or I guess 1.25 years of under performance.

Also cap space is Gold in the NHL but no one at the time had the patience to listen to someone say that the Wild could now do things that they otherwise could not have.

Zuccarello and Hartman both look to be great fits for the Wild. And could no way be here if it wasn’t for the trades.
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Greyeagle » Fri Dec 13 12:39 pm

team22tank wrote:
Fri Dec 13 12:38 pm
ScoobyDoo wrote:
Fri Dec 13 12:27 pm
It has nothing to do with the players traded performance last season or this season. It has everything to do with the value received. Rask is way overpaid for a 4th line center. Both the Coyle and the Granlund trades should have had draft picks coming to the Wild.

Please get the story straight.
Really? You might want to to circle back and look at the responses.
If this does happen it should be done in PM.
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by team22tank » Fri Dec 13 12:44 pm

Greyeagle wrote:
Fri Dec 13 12:39 pm
team22tank wrote:
Fri Dec 13 12:38 pm
ScoobyDoo wrote:
Fri Dec 13 12:27 pm
It has nothing to do with the players traded performance last season or this season. It has everything to do with the value received. Rask is way overpaid for a 4th line center. Both the Coyle and the Granlund trades should have had draft picks coming to the Wild.

Please get the story straight.
Really? You might want to to circle back and look at the responses.
If this does happen it should be done in PM.
I meant generally speaking, Twitter, the Athletic ect. Fans were very vocal about the performance based on a small sample of games and that defining the trades.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by bearpaw28 » Fri Dec 13 12:55 pm

team22tank wrote:
Fri Dec 13 12:44 pm
Greyeagle wrote:
Fri Dec 13 12:39 pm
team22tank wrote:
Fri Dec 13 12:38 pm
ScoobyDoo wrote:
Fri Dec 13 12:27 pm
It has nothing to do with the players traded performance last season or this season. It has everything to do with the value received. Rask is way overpaid for a 4th line center. Both the Coyle and the Granlund trades should have had draft picks coming to the Wild.

Please get the story straight.
Really? You might want to to circle back and look at the responses.
If this does happen it should be done in PM.
I meant generally speaking, Twitter, the Athletic ect. Fans were very vocal about the performance based on a small sample of games and that defining the trades.
Well...nobody’s out of the woods yet regarding these trades, we will know in a few years how they worked out 😉☝️

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by ScoobyDoo » Fri Dec 13 12:56 pm

What it's time for is it's time to give the Wild coaching staff their due for turning Fiala, Donato, and Rask around. Rask is playing incredibly well right now. You can actually see why he got the contract he did.
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by team22tank » Fri Dec 13 1:00 pm

bearpaw28 wrote:
Fri Dec 13 12:55 pm
team22tank wrote:
Fri Dec 13 12:44 pm
Greyeagle wrote:
Fri Dec 13 12:39 pm
team22tank wrote:
Fri Dec 13 12:38 pm
ScoobyDoo wrote:
Fri Dec 13 12:27 pm
It has nothing to do with the players traded performance last season or this season. It has everything to do with the value received. Rask is way overpaid for a 4th line center. Both the Coyle and the Granlund trades should have had draft picks coming to the Wild.

Please get the story straight.
Really? You might want to to circle back and look at the responses.
If this does happen it should be done in PM.
I meant generally speaking, Twitter, the Athletic ect. Fans were very vocal about the performance based on a small sample of games and that defining the trades.
Well...nobody’s out of the woods yet regarding these trades, we will know in a few years how they worked out 😉☝️
Very true. But knowing what we know and where we want to go the Wild needed a youth movement. Look at how well the GEEK line is playing and we had all those guys already but that would have been it. But then you add in Fiala and Donato and you have a nice core group of forwards. 5 of them and looking more and more likely 6 with Kaprizov.

Fiala, Zuccarello, Donato, Hartman, Rask

Granlund, Coyle, Nino

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Grovetown Scotty » Fri Dec 13 1:00 pm

I remember Fiala before he broke his Tibia. You would watch him and say this kid is going to be good. Then when the Wild traded Granland for him he wasn’t putting up good numbers and people were saying WTH.

Then he shows up late for camp and early in the year is a turnover machine, gets a chance to watch a few games from the press box and still everyone is scratching there heads.

You watch him now you can see the skill he has, the speed, and something I don’t remember seeing with the Preds, is his physical play. He will body people and isn’t afraid to go into the corners.
It’s got to be confidence. Starting to see it in a lot of the young Wild players.
I know I will PO some peeps, but I don’t think they miss Koivu that much.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by team22tank » Fri Dec 13 1:07 pm

Grovetown Scotty wrote:
Fri Dec 13 1:00 pm
I remember Fiala before he broke his Tibia. You would watch him and say this kid is going to be good. Then when the Wild traded Granland for him he wasn’t putting up good numbers and people were saying WTH.

Then he shows up late for camp and early in the year is a turnover machine, gets a chance to watch a few games from the press box and still everyone is scratching there heads.

You watch him now you can see the skill he has, the speed, and something I don’t remember seeing with the Preds, is his physical play. He will body people and isn’t afraid to go into the corners.
It’s got to be confidence. Starting to see it in a lot of the young Wild players.
I know I will PO some peeps, but I don’t think they miss Koivu that much.
The turnover machine narrative is overrated and got beat into the ground by Russo. When the puck is on his stick it is on like glue. He did have a propensity to try to make passes that weren’t there. But again look at the state of the Wild when he showed up last year. This year he survived the early onslaught better than a number of forwards.

Now he has two regular lineups and neither is an offensive wizard and he is doing well.

Fiala is also incredible in the neutral zone. He is able to make little passes to teammates where he gets them the puck with speed and space. That’s why his numbers are off the charts. He is also a big time play maker just wait til the day comes when he is moving the puck to a guy that can shoot.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by ScoobyDoo » Fri Dec 13 1:50 pm

Yeah, but Fiala was a turnover machine. The eye test doesn't lie. Everyone saw it. It's great that he's not now, but he certainly was.
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by team22tank » Fri Dec 13 2:23 pm

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Yeah, but Fiala was a turnover machine. The eye test doesn't lie. Everyone saw it. It's great that he's not now, but he certainly was.
And again if anyone pointed out that it would not last, they were scoffed at, The Rubes were running the show. He was horrible and a bust. Literally that was what was being said.

What was every other player’s description word? Or were they all playing awesome except?

It was one of the most overblown narratives I have heard in quite some time.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Grovetown Scotty » Fri Dec 13 2:24 pm

It may have been a case of trying to do to much.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by ScoobyDoo » Fri Dec 13 2:29 pm

team22tank wrote:
Fri Dec 13 2:23 pm
ScoobyDoo wrote:
Fri Dec 13 1:50 pm
Yeah, but Fiala was a turnover machine. The eye test doesn't lie. Everyone saw it. It's great that he's not now, but he certainly was.
And again if anyone pointed out that it would not last, they were scoffed at, The Rubes were running the show. He was horrible and a bust. Literally that was what was being said.

What was every other player’s description word? Or were they all playing awesome except?

It was one of the most overblown narratives I have heard in quite some time.
The most overblown one is Zucker can't score. Right now he and Eric Staal lead the Wild in points. And Zucker and Parise lead in goals scored. Last year was just a blip.
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by team22tank » Fri Dec 13 2:30 pm

Grovetown Scotty wrote:
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It may have been a case of trying to do to much.
Valid point. Trying to do to much, different linemates each night, To many moves in a short amount of time to realistically be good together, injuries,

But he was hardly the only one that struggled the last 20 games. And is still one of the few Wild forwards that is a plus.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by streakygopher » Fri Dec 13 5:48 pm

I don't know how they turned this around but after the first dozen games they looked like a last place team. Now, at least they're competing most every night, and they're starting to gel a little bit. When your third line is rising like they are, it can only make the team harder to play against.

Last night, they played a little too loose (as did Edmonton), but every time the Oilers got close the Wild pumped in another goal to separate themselves....gotta work on salting games away, though. For a minute their it looked like the game against the Bruins with the goalie pulled.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Viking » Fri Dec 13 8:04 pm

Grovetown Scotty wrote:
Fri Dec 13 9:40 am
Slap Shot wrote:
Fri Dec 13 8:14 am
Greyeagle wrote:
Fri Dec 13 8:10 am
Slap Shot wrote:
Fri Dec 13 7:34 am
Norm Green still sucks. 25 years ago today.



:x :evil: :censored: :chainsaw: :anger: :ahhh: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
I still miss The Met. It was the X of the 60s, an arena designed for hockey first.
I don't miss the Civic Center, that was an arena built for camping shows.
Yeah I think Civic Center for hockey is missed from a nostalgia angle only. When they still had clear boards, the one class state tourney, etc.

The Met was wonderful for hockey - the fans were right on top of the surface and while I only to skate on it a few times the consensus was generally it always had great ice.

For a kid born in 1967 that grew up playing hockey in Minnesota, the North Stars (and Gophers) were everything. Bigger than life. So many cold winter nights fighting to stay awake in bed listening to Al Shaver call the game - every bit as exciting as the rare times you could watch them on TV. I was lucky enough to see several games at the Met during the 1981 SC run, and somewhere in the basement GOAL magazines are collecting dust in a box (that I shold get to some day). Norm Green was not unique as a cold-blooded asshole, but he crushed souls. I try like hell to rekindle those same feelings for the Wild, and while I support them it will sadly never be the same.
Met Center was great. Was known by the players of having some of the best ice in the NHL. You could tailgate.

I was a huge North Star fan and eventually have become a Wild fan. I have never liked the "Wild"as a team name. Stupid name. Almost as stupid as Leipold. :wink:
What a shame that they destroyed an awesome hockey building to build a shopping mall.
Met Center was still there when the mall of hell went up.
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Post by Greyeagle » Fri Dec 13 8:28 pm

I believe The Met is now Ikea.
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Post by Bigbeer » Fri Dec 13 9:01 pm

Viking wrote:
Fri Dec 13 8:04 pm
Grovetown Scotty wrote:
Fri Dec 13 9:40 am
Slap Shot wrote:
Fri Dec 13 8:14 am
Greyeagle wrote:
Fri Dec 13 8:10 am
Slap Shot wrote:
Fri Dec 13 7:34 am
Norm Green still sucks. 25 years ago today.



:x :evil: :censored: :chainsaw: :anger: :ahhh: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
I still miss The Met. It was the X of the 60s, an arena designed for hockey first.
I don't miss the Civic Center, that was an arena built for camping shows.
Yeah I think Civic Center for hockey is missed from a nostalgia angle only. When they still had clear boards, the one class state tourney, etc.

The Met was wonderful for hockey - the fans were right on top of the surface and while I only to skate on it a few times the consensus was generally it always had great ice.

For a kid born in 1967 that grew up playing hockey in Minnesota, the North Stars (and Gophers) were everything. Bigger than life. So many cold winter nights fighting to stay awake in bed listening to Al Shaver call the game - every bit as exciting as the rare times you could watch them on TV. I was lucky enough to see several games at the Met during the 1981 SC run, and somewhere in the basement GOAL magazines are collecting dust in a box (that I shold get to some day). Norm Green was not unique as a cold-blooded asshole, but he crushed souls. I try like hell to rekindle those same feelings for the Wild, and while I support them it will sadly never be the same.
Met Center was great. Was known by the players of having some of the best ice in the NHL. You could tailgate.

I was a huge North Star fan and eventually have become a Wild fan. I have never liked the "Wild"as a team name. Stupid name. Almost as stupid as Leipold. :wink:
What a shame that they destroyed an awesome hockey building to build a shopping mall.
Met Center was still there when the mall of hell went up.
Yes...where IKEA is now. I miss Met Center too, some great hockey memories. I saw a Gophers vs Wisconsin game there, a New Years Eve game against Chicago where 5 players from each team were ejected and also the clinching game 6 in ‘91 against Chicago. Good stuff...
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