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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by streakygopher » Fri Feb 21 1:06 pm

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Well they did put Stalock in, so it’s not full on tank.
With the way Duby is playing they don't have much choice. Don't know if it's his off ice stuff, but he's not the same goal tender he was even last season.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Goldy77 » Fri Feb 21 1:20 pm

Ya it’s been pretty brutal.
Dubnyk. GAA-3.31 Sv% .893
Stalock. GAA-2.68 Sv% .909

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by team22tank » Fri Feb 21 1:23 pm

Saw the third period goals he gave up on Wednesday night just now at lunch. That’s about as bad as it gets. And they somehow got 2 points out of that game.

I have to think Kaapo is coming up after the trade deadline when the roster expands. Team deserves it they’ve hung in there with league worst goaltending. Plus good stretch of games to see how Kaapo does and what else you need to do for next year. Neither Stalock or Dubnyk should be playing next season.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Slap Shot » Fri Feb 21 1:29 pm

Even with Stalock having down moments how do you not give him 75% of the starts unless his results tank?
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by team22tank » Fri Feb 21 1:30 pm

Good news is Fiala is playing close to 20 minutes a night lately. To think Bruce had him throttled around 12 minutes many nights.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by J22 » Fri Feb 21 1:42 pm

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Saw the third period goals he gave up on Wednesday night just now at lunch. That’s about as bad as it gets. And they somehow got 2 points out of that game.

I have to think Kaapo is coming up after the trade deadline when the roster expands. Team deserves it they’ve hung in there with league worst goaltending. Plus good stretch of games to see how Kaapo does and what else you need to do for next year. Neither Stalock or Dubnyk should be playing next season.
If Guerin really wanted to win, Kahkonen would've been up 2 months ago.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by J22 » Fri Feb 21 2:50 pm

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I think $h!t like this was the major reason that Boudreau was fired. Doesn't make much sense for Guerin to continue doing it though.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by gopheritall » Fri Feb 21 7:27 pm

I thought I would have seen another Wild trade by now. Busy weekend?

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by frozen4champs » Fri Feb 21 7:30 pm

gopheritall wrote:
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I thought I would have seen another Wild trade by now. Busy weekend?
Russo thinks no trades until they get back from Edmonton and fathers trip.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by team22tank » Fri Feb 21 7:51 pm

J22 wrote:
Fri Feb 21 2:50 pm
frozen4champs wrote:
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I think $h!t like this was the major reason that Boudreau was fired. Doesn't make much sense for Guerin to continue doing it though.
It’s not difficult to see what the real issues were last year. There is a reason GMs want their own guy. Especially when coach and owner are buddy, buddy.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Snowcool08 » Fri Feb 21 9:12 pm

frozen4champs wrote:
Fri Feb 21 7:30 pm
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Fri Feb 21 7:27 pm
I thought I would have seen another Wild trade by now. Busy weekend?
Russo thinks no trades until they get back from Edmonton and fathers trip.
Why did they schedule a father's trip around trade deadline weekend? Couldn't they have seen some awkward moments coming?

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by team22tank » Fri Feb 21 9:24 pm

The only thing that needs to be blown up is this awful goaltending tandem.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Cowgirl » Fri Feb 21 10:31 pm

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Grovetown Scotty » Fri Feb 21 10:37 pm

Stalock with some huge saves late.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by team22tank » Fri Feb 21 10:41 pm

Grovetown Scotty wrote:
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Stalock with some huge saves late.
And a .885 save percentage on the night in which his team put on an absolute clinic.

Just think, he gives up one more fluffer and Russo is yipping and yapping about what a flawed team they are in an Athletic Article.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Karlsson » Sat Feb 22 1:19 am

I've really liked Galchenyuk the last few games. Strong on the puck. Winning battles on the boards. Throwing is weight around a bit. Hope it continues. (History says it doesn't)

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by NYC Gopher fan » Sat Feb 22 8:30 am

Apparently koivu has been asked if he’ll lift his no trade, and Brodin, dumba and Parise are being shopped around also....

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by frozen4champs » Sat Feb 22 9:07 am

The Islanders were interested in Parise this summer, so that would make a good fit, although I just don't see it happening. Would love to flip Koivu, but what is he really worth at this point? It would be nice if Galchenyuk could have another nice game on Sunday to flip him for a draft pick. I'm still in the camp that the Wild should trade for the future and throw in the towel this year. The goaltending isn't good enough to make a long run in the playoffs.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by team22tank » Sat Feb 22 9:18 am

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The Islanders were interested in Parise this summer, so that would make a good fit, although I just don't see it happening. Would love to flip Koivu, but what is he really worth at this point? It would be nice if Galchenyuk could have another nice game on Sunday to flip him for a draft pick. I'm still in the camp that the Wild should trade for the future and throw in the towel this year. The goaltending isn't good enough to make a long run in the playoffs.
Galchenyuk might be worth doing a trial run with and see if their is a fit for both sides.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by streakygopher » Sat Feb 22 9:19 am

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The Islanders were interested in Parise this summer, so that would make a good fit, although I just don't see it happening. Would love to flip Koivu, but what is he really worth at this point? It would be nice if Galchenyuk could have another nice game on Sunday to flip him for a draft pick. I'm still in the camp that the Wild should trade for the future and throw in the towel this year. The goaltending isn't good enough to make a long run in the playoffs.
I would agree they should be selling. Even if they squeak into the playoffs, they'll be first-round cannon fodder.

After watching Galchenyuk, I'd like to see more. He's young and still on his way up, so who knows what kind of player he can become, but I don't know why he would be a guy you're looking to move at this point.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by team22tank » Sat Feb 22 9:23 am

streakygopher wrote:
Sat Feb 22 9:19 am
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Sat Feb 22 9:07 am
The Islanders were interested in Parise this summer, so that would make a good fit, although I just don't see it happening. Would love to flip Koivu, but what is he really worth at this point? It would be nice if Galchenyuk could have another nice game on Sunday to flip him for a draft pick. I'm still in the camp that the Wild should trade for the future and throw in the towel this year. The goaltending isn't good enough to make a long run in the playoffs.
I would agree they should be selling. Even if they squeak into the playoffs, they'll be first-round cannon fodder.

After watching Galchenyuk, I'd like to see more. He's young and still on his way up, so who knows what kind of player he can become, but I don't know why he would be a guy you're looking to move at this point.
The thought on moving Galchenyuk is that he is a unrestricted free agent and you move him because the odds of him landing here might not be in the cards.

But I don’t think he would return much at this point so run with him. And if the Wild really like what they see and he feels like he can revive his career here, you might have something.

I agree on selling older forwards. Not interested in trading Dumba and Brodin at this point. I am interested in seeing this team with some halfway decent goaltending, a loaded D Corps, Fiala playing 20 a night and Kaprizov.
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by streakygopher » Sat Feb 22 9:24 am

Ah, didn't realize his status.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by frozen4champs » Sat Feb 22 9:34 am

My thinking on Galchenyuk was that he is an UFA and is making 4.9 million this year, and I just don't think his price tag he will want next year will be in the Wilds range, unless he would take a Staal like deal he took when he first came here ( 3.5 or so) . Just as well get a pick, even a mid rounder for him if they can.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by streakygopher » Sat Feb 22 9:36 am

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My thinking on Galchenyuk was that he is an UFA and is making 4.9 million this year, and I just don't think his price tag he will want next year will be in the Wilds range, unless he would take a Staal like deal he took when he first came here ( 3.5 or so) . Just as well get a pick, even a mid rounder for him if they can.
Yeah, at that price I see your point.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by F Da Sue » Sat Feb 22 9:45 am

Boldy with 3 points last night. 15 points in his last 10 games.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by team22tank » Sat Feb 22 9:52 am

F Da Sue wrote:
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Boldy with 3 points last night. 15 points in his last 10 games.
So at draft time the experts were semi sold, then he was a bust, is he back to promising? All in one year.

I wish I could be an expert.

In all seriousness there is a lot to like with Kaprizov, Kohvanov and Boldy leading the way in the Forward pipe.

And it is looking like Fiala could very well be a point a game player in this league or very close.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by J22 » Sat Feb 22 10:04 am

Galchenyuk will be taking a pay cut no matter where he ends up. If you can get a 3rd round pick or equivalent level prospect, he should probably go. Otherwise take the chance that he can figure it out here. I have seen/read a few rumors that hockey isn't his issue though, and that he has a Devin Setoguchi problem.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Bigbeer » Sun Feb 23 11:00 am

Mayhew...sweet.

I’d really rather they keep Brodin. I would be fine if Dumba was the odd Dman out but I wouldn’t think we’d get max value with how he’s played this season compared to how he was trending.
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by J22 » Sun Feb 23 7:08 pm

Dubnyk and a 2nd round pick for the Zamboni driver from Toronto. Who says no?

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

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Dubnyk and a 2nd round pick for the Zamboni driver from Toronto. Who says no?
My daughter, son-in-law and granddaughters live in Toronto. Believe me, the fans love their Zamboni driver WAY too much to make that deal. :wink:
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

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Chris83 wrote:
Sun Feb 23 7:13 pm
J22 wrote:
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Dubnyk and a 2nd round pick for the Zamboni driver from Toronto. Who says no?
My daughter, son-in-law and granddaughters live in Toronto. Believe me, the fans love their Zamboni driver WAY too much to make that deal. :wink:
But, if Dubnyk goes to be the emergency goalie, the Leafs might actually be able to beat him.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by frozen4champs » Sun Feb 23 7:29 pm

Wild will play the Blues in the Winter Classic :bored:

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Grovetown Scotty » Sun Feb 23 7:39 pm

No Pierre, Eden Prairie is not out of it.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

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frozen4champs wrote:
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Wild will play the Blues in the Winter Classic :bored:
Well, they could have had Chicago in yet another appearance.
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

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Grovetown Scotty wrote:
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No Pierre, Eden Prairie is not out of it.
I was scrambling to see if I had missed something

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

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Nice technique by Doobs.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

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Grovetown Scotty wrote:
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Nice technique by Doobs.
Worth a shot trying to play the position on his stomach, the conventional way clearly isn't working for him

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by gopher6 » Mon Feb 24 7:32 am

the Blues will play the Wild in next season Winter classic
http://www.startribune.com/st-louis-blues-will-be-wild-s-winter-classic-opponent/568129022/

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by J22 » Mon Feb 24 11:56 am

Really sounds like the Parise trade is going to happen. Sure hope Guerin knows something that nobody else does.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by frozen4champs » Mon Feb 24 12:10 pm

If (when) this deal happens, can you imagine the angry Whioux fans? :D

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by g-manpuck » Mon Feb 24 12:11 pm

That retirement recapture penalty is quite the hurt. Russo put in his article on The Athletic that Parise is quoted to say he plans on playing out his contract so the recapture penalty is mute. We'll see. I would like to see this trade happen for both sides. Parise needs to move on and the Wild need to move on as well. If this trade happens and then this offseason Mikko retires, Guerin might be able to put something together...maybe.
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by team22tank » Mon Feb 24 12:12 pm

g-manpuck wrote:
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That retirement recapture penalty is quite the hurt. Russo put in his article on The Athletic that Parise is quoted to say he plans on playing out his contract so the recapture penalty is mute. We'll see. I would like to see this trade happen for both sides. Parise needs to move on and the Wild need to move on as well. If this trade happens and then this offseason Mikko retires, Guerin might be able to put something together...maybe.
Parise isn’t going to flat out retire. If he doesn’t play out the entire contract it will be because of injury and he will go on LTIR.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by J22 » Mon Feb 24 12:14 pm

g-manpuck wrote:
Mon Feb 24 12:11 pm
That retirement recapture penalty is quite the hurt. Russo put in his article on The Athletic that Parise is quoted to say he plans on playing out his contract so the recapture penalty is mute. We'll see. I would like to see this trade happen for both sides. Parise needs to move on and the Wild need to move on as well. If this trade happens and then this offseason Mikko retires, Guerin might be able to put something together...maybe.
I just can't see Guerin making a trade like this without some sort of assurance from the league that he will be able to work around the cap recapture in some way if it were to arise.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Karlsson » Mon Feb 24 12:39 pm

Ladd has waived his clause. Looks like this is happening.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by streakygopher » Mon Feb 24 1:24 pm

Karlsson wrote:
Mon Feb 24 12:39 pm
Ladd has waived his clause. Looks like this is happening.
I'm all for it. The Parise experiment failed. Not saying it's on him, but it's pretty obvious this team is not going to win anything while he's on the roster...might as well get something while you can. Get rid of Staal next. He has been terrible lately.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by J22 » Mon Feb 24 1:27 pm

streakygopher wrote:
Mon Feb 24 1:24 pm
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Mon Feb 24 12:39 pm
Ladd has waived his clause. Looks like this is happening.
I'm all for it. The Parise experiment failed. Not saying it's on him, but it's pretty obvious this team is not going to win anything while he's on the roster...might as well get something while you can. Get rid of Staal next. He has been terrible lately.
Getting Parise out of the lineup was the best move Guerin could've made today. Have to imagine that getting him out of the locker room is an even bigger deal.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by frozen4champs » Mon Feb 24 2:07 pm

I hope this isn't true....


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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by frozen4champs » Mon Feb 24 2:18 pm

So the Wild stand pat :roll: . I agree to not giveaway Dumba or Brodin, but one will move this summer with more teams in the mix. Just wanted to get the coach killer moved. :evil:

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Post by J22 » Mon Feb 24 2:22 pm

And now Leipold can begin his search for yet another new GM :dope:

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Post by Gopher99 » Mon Feb 24 2:25 pm

My man calling him the coach killer is a little extreme...I hear ya for wanting more success during this tenure of #11/#20, but peak at the seasons from 2008-2012 for that reminder of where this franchise was pre-Parise & Suter.

The NHL, like the other professional leagues, is a business. Coaching moves are made often. Parise or no-Parise that's becoming more of the norm in the NHL.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by team22tank » Mon Feb 24 2:28 pm

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My man calling him the coach killer is a little extreme...I hear ya for wanting more success during this tenure of #11/#20, but peak at the seasons from 2008-2012 for that reminder of where this franchise was pre-Parise & Suter.

The NHL, like the other professional leagues, is a business. Coaching moves are made often. Parise or no-Parise that's becoming more of the norm in the NHL.
Without Parise and Suter Yeo would have last as long as Richards with that team. And he never would have gotten a second chance to blow which was St. Louis.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Chris83 » Mon Feb 24 2:29 pm

If the deal simply didn't get done, then whatever. However, as the panel on TSN pointed out, if trying to wrangle all the financial angles was the issue, wouldn't you have broached this sooner than right up against the deadline?
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Goldy77 » Mon Feb 24 2:38 pm

Yep, couldn’t trade Parise. The guy clearly should be fired.

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Post by frozen4champs » Mon Feb 24 2:42 pm

Gopher99 wrote:
Mon Feb 24 2:25 pm
My man calling him the coach killer is a little extreme...I hear ya for wanting more success during this tenure of #11/#20, but peak at the seasons from 2008-2012 for that reminder of where this franchise was pre-Parise & Suter.

The NHL, like the other professional leagues, is a business. Coaching moves are made often. Parise or no-Parise that's becoming more of the norm in the NHL.
He just rubs me the wrong way. I was beyond thrilled when he and Suter signed those years ago. A few years ago, he went behind the organizations back and brought in Adam Oates to work with his buddies on the PP a few days before camp. Last summer he made it known about his frustrations the direction the team was headed ( can't blame him ). There also has been discourse in the locker room the past few years, and although names have not been named, you would think if he wasn't involved, he would have the clout to stop it. He is a heck of a hockey player, but I hope a deal can be made this off season, as it is time to move on from him IMHO.
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by J22 » Mon Feb 24 2:43 pm

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Yep, couldn’t trade Parise. The guy clearly should be fired.
Guerin just told Parise and the entire NHL that he would rather throw $5M away than have Parise on his team. Think that's going to help the locker room situation?

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At least Guerin tried to trade Parise. But with his contract & age, he’s a difficult player to trade. Zack obviously gave him permission to try, so no harm, no foul, regarding that ☝️I like Guerin as GM a hell of a lot better than Fenton (or Fletcher) for that matter, he actually PLAYED the game at a very high level & I trust he has a vision for building a contender. But time will tell how good or bad he ultimately is...so far he’s made one trade that appears will benefit the Wild down the road and it benefited Zucker too.

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bearpaw28 wrote:
Mon Feb 24 3:15 pm
At least Guerin tried to trade Parise. But with his contract & age, he’s a difficult player to trade. Zack obviously gave him permission to try, so no harm, no foul, regarding that ☝️I like Guerin as GM a hell of a lot better than Fenton (or Fletcher) for that matter, he actually PLAYED the game at a very high level & I trust he has a vision for building a contender. But time will tell how good or bad he ultimately is...so far he’s made one trade that appears will benefit the Wild down the road and it benefited Zucker too.
At this point, Guerin can't even hold a candle to Fenton. That's scary.

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Post by g-manpuck » Mon Feb 24 3:24 pm

I think if Guerin stands pat this offseason then we as fans can and should bitch. He will have a little money to play with this offseason but signing Kaprisov and Kunin will take precedence. After that then look to who deserves a contract extension like Brodin, Fiala, and Foligno.

I don't see a trade with Parise happening in the offseason because I don't think another team will look to him as a need like they would at the trade deadline. I think if Guerin really wanted this trade to happen he would have been working on it a lot over the last five days instead of the last five hours before the deadline knowing how complicated the trade with be financially. This is 1000% speculation on my part though.
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by J22 » Mon Feb 24 3:34 pm

g-manpuck wrote:
Mon Feb 24 3:24 pm
I think if Guerin stands pat this offseason then we as fans can and should bitch. He will have a little money to play with this offseason but signing Kaprisov and Kunin will take precedence. After that then look to who deserves a contract extension like Brodin, Fiala, and Foligno.

I don't see a trade with Parise happening in the offseason because I don't think another team will look to him as a need like they would at the trade deadline. I think if Guerin really wanted this trade to happen he would have been working on it a lot over the last five days instead of the last five hours before the deadline knowing how complicated the trade with be financially. This is 1000% speculation on my part though.
Kaprisov has to sign an ELC so that's a nothing contract. Kunin should be pretty simple. Fiala could be a tricky decision. You can't sign Brodin to an extension this summer because of the expansion draft. Foligno shouldn't even be considered for an extension unless he's willing to take a significant pay cut.

The Parise situation can only get worse after this, and it was bad already.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by bearpaw28 » Mon Feb 24 3:45 pm

J22 wrote:
Mon Feb 24 3:22 pm
bearpaw28 wrote:
Mon Feb 24 3:15 pm
At least Guerin tried to trade Parise. But with his contract & age, he’s a difficult player to trade. Zack obviously gave him permission to try, so no harm, no foul, regarding that ☝️I like Guerin as GM a hell of a lot better than Fenton (or Fletcher) for that matter, he actually PLAYED the game at a very high level & I trust he has a vision for building a contender. But time will tell how good or bad he ultimately is...so far he’s made one trade that appears will benefit the Wild down the road and it benefited Zucker too.
At this point, Guerin can't even hold a candle to Fenton. That's scary.
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by SkiUMahLaw » Mon Feb 24 4:07 pm

J22 wrote:
Mon Feb 24 3:34 pm
g-manpuck wrote:
Mon Feb 24 3:24 pm
I think if Guerin stands pat this offseason then we as fans can and should bitch. He will have a little money to play with this offseason but signing Kaprisov and Kunin will take precedence. After that then look to who deserves a contract extension like Brodin, Fiala, and Foligno.

I don't see a trade with Parise happening in the offseason because I don't think another team will look to him as a need like they would at the trade deadline. I think if Guerin really wanted this trade to happen he would have been working on it a lot over the last five days instead of the last five hours before the deadline knowing how complicated the trade with be financially. This is 1000% speculation on my part though.
Kaprisov has to sign an ELC so that's a nothing contract. Kunin should be pretty simple. Fiala could be a tricky decision. You can't sign Brodin to an extension this summer because of the expansion draft. Foligno shouldn't even be considered for an extension unless he's willing to take a significant pay cut.

The Parise situation can only get worse after this, and it was bad already.
I don't disagree with your ideas, but realistically, do we know it was Guerin holding back on the trade? Maybe Lamorillo was the one holding back because of the salary position? Maybe it is an open secret that Parise will retire this year anyway and it was just for a rental and the numbers didn't work as a result? Or perhaps trading him made the numbers even worse for the Wild.

I agree that we should look to trade him, but just because it fell through didn't mean it would have been a better deal if we had. Put differently, I would for sure trade Foligno straight up for Aho, but that doesn't mean the Hurricanes would.

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Post by J22 » Mon Feb 24 4:16 pm

SkiUMahLaw wrote:
Mon Feb 24 4:07 pm
J22 wrote:
Mon Feb 24 3:34 pm
g-manpuck wrote:
Mon Feb 24 3:24 pm
I think if Guerin stands pat this offseason then we as fans can and should bitch. He will have a little money to play with this offseason but signing Kaprisov and Kunin will take precedence. After that then look to who deserves a contract extension like Brodin, Fiala, and Foligno.

I don't see a trade with Parise happening in the offseason because I don't think another team will look to him as a need like they would at the trade deadline. I think if Guerin really wanted this trade to happen he would have been working on it a lot over the last five days instead of the last five hours before the deadline knowing how complicated the trade with be financially. This is 1000% speculation on my part though.
Kaprisov has to sign an ELC so that's a nothing contract. Kunin should be pretty simple. Fiala could be a tricky decision. You can't sign Brodin to an extension this summer because of the expansion draft. Foligno shouldn't even be considered for an extension unless he's willing to take a significant pay cut.

The Parise situation can only get worse after this, and it was bad already.
I don't disagree with your ideas, but realistically, do we know it was Guerin holding back on the trade? Maybe Lamorillo was the one holding back because of the salary position? Maybe it is an open secret that Parise will retire this year anyway and it was just for a rental and the numbers didn't work as a result? Or perhaps trading him made the numbers even worse for the Wild.

I agree that we should look to trade him, but just because it fell through didn't mean it would have been a better deal if we had. Put differently, I would for sure trade Foligno straight up for Aho, but that doesn't mean the Hurricanes would.
My point is that you can't do everything that you did today and end up not trading him. You certainly can't let it get public. Parise has quite a bit of leverage because of the cap recapture BS, Guerin just publicly insulted him.

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Post by bearpaw28 » Mon Feb 24 4:25 pm

Boo Fricking Hoo that Guerin “insulted Parise”. Guerin couldn’t have even contemplated trading Parise without his acquiescence. It’s business...it’s not personal.

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by J22 » Mon Feb 24 4:35 pm

bearpaw28 wrote:
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Boo Fricking Hoo that Guerin “insulted Parise”. Guerin couldn’t have even contemplated trading Parise without his acquiescence. It’s business...it’s not personal.
Yeah, because Parise hasn't proven to be a crybaby when he doesn't get his way. The only reason that Guerin would even consider trading him would be to get him away from the team/locker room.

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Post by bearpaw28 » Mon Feb 24 4:40 pm

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Mon Feb 24 4:35 pm
bearpaw28 wrote:
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Boo Fricking Hoo that Guerin “insulted Parise”. Guerin couldn’t have even contemplated trading Parise without his acquiescence. It’s business...it’s not personal.
Yeah, because Parise hasn't proven to be a crybaby when he doesn't get his way. The only reason that Guerin would even consider trading him would be to get him away from the team/locker room.
It must be nice thinking you’re smarter than Fletcher, Fenton & Guerin...but...just another day in the pony corral for U J22 🤠

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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by J22 » Mon Feb 24 4:49 pm

bearpaw28 wrote:
Mon Feb 24 4:40 pm
J22 wrote:
Mon Feb 24 4:35 pm
bearpaw28 wrote:
Mon Feb 24 4:25 pm
Boo Fricking Hoo that Guerin “insulted Parise”. Guerin couldn’t have even contemplated trading Parise without his acquiescence. It’s business...it’s not personal.
Yeah, because Parise hasn't proven to be a crybaby when he doesn't get his way. The only reason that Guerin would even consider trading him would be to get him away from the team/locker room.
It must be nice thinking you’re smarter than Fletcher, Fenton & Guerin...but...just another day in the pony corral for U J22 🤠
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Re: 2019-2020 Wild Season

Post by Bladepuller » Mon Feb 24 5:42 pm

I figured that a power play force like # 11 is, according to J22, would be a hot commodity for any contending team.
I realize Parise would have to sign off but once it got out that he was willing to go to the Isles....Why wouldn't any contending team want such a player? The deals do not have to be done at the stroke of the hour, also. The teams talking do have to be logged onto the NHL trade line and be working out details, from what I have seen else where
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Ladd has waived his clause. Looks like this is happening.
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