2019-2020 Wild Season

[Grovetown Scotty]

Leipold is a moron.

[J22]

Leipold is a moron.

How is that?

[Bladepuller]

Well he was smart enough to marry serious wealth.

[frozen4champs]

Someone ( Boudreau maybe?) wrote down the wrong players on the official lineup card, so Pateryn can't play and is pulled off the bench. Donato may be listed and not sure if he is allowed to come out of the press box. Typical Wild.

Edit-- Donato came down from press box and is now dressed on the bench..

[mnpuckguy]

Stick a fork in them! Another pathetic performance!

[Vegasgopher]

Could actually be worse...if we played these guys every night we'd be 0-45...

I'd say play the prospects the rest of the year like baseball, but we already are and don't have any more. More kappo please

[Bigbeer]

Parise scores with 10 seconds left to cut their lead to 4....

[Alby22]

Stick a fork in them! Another pathetic performance!

Wild always struggle in Pitt but besides the drubbing tonight the wild just aren’t a very good team. Not stunned by this slide they are in. They played great for a month or so but with no offensive game breakers or a top flight goalie it’s tough to sustain that level.

This team just feels stale. We know they have 4-5 veterans on long term deals but hopefully a good off season with BG and Kaprizov coming next year gives this team the jolt it needs to raise the level of play up.

[Goldy77]

Might as well bring up a few guys from Iowa and let them play for an extended period of time(not a couple games). Embrace the suck and hope for a top pick or 5.

[Dances With Gophers]

Someone ( Boudreau maybe?) wrote down the wrong players on the official lineup card, so Pateryn can't play and is pulled off the bench. Donato may be listed and not sure if he is allowed to come out of the press box. Typical Wild.

Edit-- Donato came down from press box and is now dressed on the bench..

Looks like it was Boudreau. That’s a first...

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/284 ... l-my-fault

[JC65]

Sadly I think the strib is being optimistic with this headline:

Following lineup gaffe, Wild hits 'lowest point of the season' in blowout loss
http://www.startribune.com/lineup-mix-up-in-pittsburgh-adds-to-wild-s-misery-in-blowout-loss/566992472/

I mean... it could always get worse.

[YoungEagle]

After watching that game... Newsflash... Crosby is still phenomenal.

[Greyeagle]

After watching that game... Newsflash... Crosby is still phenomenal.

Reminded me of my HS playing days with the Wild playing the part of Woodbury and the Pens being just about every team we played.
We excelled in moral victories, which was keeping the other team under 10.

[Goldy77]

[frozen4champs]

I was listening to NHL radio yesterday and they were talking Mn Wild. The topic of Zach Parise came up and they alluded to the possible trade that was discussed last summer with Parise and the team they said that was in discussions was the Islanders. That makes sense because of Lamoriello being there. Russo had said they had discussions with a team, but would not say who, so that must have been the team. Wonder what the return would have been? ( Leddy and Clutterbuck lol) I would be all for trading him, but as others have said, the cap recapture would be back breaking if he retired before his deal is up.

[frozen4champs]

Koivu skating with the 4th line this morning.

[grothm01]

I can't believe the Wild played a good game and nobody commented.

[J22]

I can't believe the Wild played a good game and nobody commented.

They look like a decent team when the goaltender plays well

[Cowgirl]

I can't believe the Wild played a good game and nobody commented.

It’s typically very quiet here when the team is winning/has won.....

[bearpaw28]

I can't believe the Wild played a good game and nobody commented.

They look like a decent team when the goaltender plays well

Agree, Stalock made just 18 saves on 20 shots, but more than a handful appeared to be of high quality. Additionally, the pipes were his friend tonight (except on Kuch 2nd goal). Took advantage of a PP beautiful passing play & two TB turnovers for their 3 goals. An important home win that was desperately needed.

[Greyeagle]

I can't believe the Wild played a good game and nobody commented.

It’s typically very quiet here when the team is winning/has won.....

It really does ruin the narrative.

[Cowgirl]

I can't believe the Wild played a good game and nobody commented.

It’s typically very quiet here when the team is winning/has won.....

It really does ruin the narrative.

For sure. There is no place for happiness and positivity in this thread on this board.

[ScoobyDoo]

In a vacuum it was a fun game to watch.

[gopher6]

The Wild have canceled tomorrow’s am practice

[Grovetown Scotty]

I can't believe the Wild played a good game and nobody commented.

Didn’t see the game ( high school hockey night) but sounds like Stalock played well and the team held the Lightning to 20 shots and also scored first. All things this team needs to do to win. With all these home games they obviously need to make up some ground.

Who would have thought that Carson Soucy would have more goals than Matt Dumba and +15 (Tied for 10th in the league) as opposed to Dumba’s -14.
There’s some positivity.

[frozen4champs]

Dear Wes Walz, the Wild are not playing well tonight because it is Hockey Day Minnesota. I know that is the company line, but they are playing well because of their passing.

[ScoobyDoo]

Dear Wes Walz, the Wild are not playing well tonight because it is Hockey Day Minnesota. I know that is the company line, but they are playing well because of their passing.

How can anyone be sure with this squad?

[Grovetown Scotty]

Dear Wes Walz, the Wild are not playing well tonight because it is Hockey Day Minnesota. I know that is the company line, but they are playing well because of their passing.

And physical play....

[frozen4champs]

The roller coaster is now going up

[ScoobyDoo]

The roller coaster is now going up

This team is weird. Fun game to watch tonight.

[Cowgirl]

Always nice when the stars are the recipient of a shellacking. Who knows, they might be motivated by several things tonight that are resulting in improved play.

Enjoy it while it lasts!

Go Wild!

[Bladepuller]

The dreaded 5 goal lead. Worst lead in hockey.

[Vegasgopher]

Weird

[Greyeagle]

The extra point is....GOOD!

7-0 final.

Corey Perry is no longer on Stalock's Christmas card list.

[JC65]

Corey Perry is no longer on Stalock's Christmas card list.

Ya think?

[Vegasgopher]

Corey Perry is no longer on Stalock's Christmas card list.

Ya think?

Love it

[Steve MN]

Is there a replay of what led to that exchange?

I do love Stalock's fire, though, and he is, of course correct.

And, as always, Norm Green still sucks.

[frozen4champs]

Is there a replay of what led to that exchange?

I do love Stalock's fire, though, and he is, of course correct.

And, as always, Norm Green still sucks.

the 2nd video has it

[Steve MN]

Ahhh yes. I do like how the rest of the team made their displeasure known as well.

[streakygopher]

Glad to see the response by the team. Perry clearly moved his knee right into Stalock's head.

Dirty players like Brad Marchant and Cory Perry have something in common. They have no impulse control. When that split second comes when they need to decide to play clean or play dirty, they often make the wrong choice, throwing a late elbow, a slew foot, or, in Perry's case, moving a knee into the head of an unsuspecting player.

Hope the leagues suspends him for that, because he deserves it.

[Bertogliat]

Glad to see the response by the team. Perry clearly moved his knee right into Stalock's head.

Dirty players like Brad Marchant and Cory Perry have something in common. They have no impulse control. When that split second comes when they need to decide to play clean or play dirty, they often make the wrong choice, throwing a late elbow, a slew foot, or, in Perry's case, moving a knee into the head of an unsuspecting player.

Hope the leagues suspends him for that, because he deserves it.

He also stepped on Stalocks glove in the process of kneeing him in the head.

[JC65]

The striking thing to me is that after the initial skirmish starts, the Stars players mostly just stand around and watch two or three Wild players try to get at Perry. He's on their team, but they know he's garbage.

[team22tank]

Man does Guerin have some decisions to make.

I am beginning for the first time to think this is it with Koivu. They need to free up a couple of top 9 spots in my opinion. So unless Mikko resigns a one year deal and accepts a 4th line role I don’t see him with the club. And I’m not sure he will accept that?

Donato, the kids scores and can create chances on his own. He had been scratched a handful of times, played some 4th line and been moved around. And he has a chance to make a run at 20 goals. I hope Guerin doesn’t move him. This kid could be a scorer and with him, Fiala, and Kaprizov you could have a group of forwards that can put pucks in the net without having to work, work, work just for a look. He will need to be a top 9 forward after this season.

I still think Zucker is the candidate to get moved. He would return a draft pick and a prospect.

Rask, I would not buy him out this off season to have him on the books for 4 more seasons. But a lot will probably depend on what happens with Koivu. Of course if he could be dealt with say Zucker then of course you do it. But that would be a ton of Cap for a team to take on so I am not sure that is realistic.

[streakygopher]

I would agree letting Zucker go. This team probably won't make the playoffs with him this year, and if he has any value, get it now. Focus on young players, bring them along, and find a goal tender. By the time Parise, Suter, Koivu and Staal are gone, hopefully the nucleus of the team is winning games.

Something has to change with this team. #frustratedfan

[F Da Sue]

Brodin asking price for a new deal is getting more expensive by the day. Kid is playing unbelievable right now.

If Brodin does re sign here after next season that's a lot of money tied up in your top four defenseman. Too bad his stock is so low right now because Dumba is the logical pick to be traded.

[J22]

Brodin asking price for a new deal is getting more expensive by the day. Kid is playing unbelievable right now.

If Brodin does re sign here after next season that's a lot of money tied up in your top four defenseman. Too bad his stock is so low right now because Dumba is the logical pick to be traded.

Spurgeon was the logical pick to be traded. Guerin already f*** that up. Brodin won't be hard to keep around if he really wants to stay.

[team22tank]

Brodin asking price for a new deal is getting more expensive by the day. Kid is playing unbelievable right now.

If Brodin does re sign here after next season that's a lot of money tied up in your top four defenseman. Too bad his stock is so low right now because Dumba is the logical pick to be traded.

Spurgeon was the logical pick to be traded. Guerin already f*** that up. Brodin won't be hard to keep around if he really wants to stay.

I don’t understand why everyone thinks a D needs to be traded? I wouldn’t trade any of the four or Soucy. Unless there is some blockbuster on the table they don’t need to be moved.

As far as Brodin’s next contract it will be manageable. He doesn’t score a lot of points or goals which will keep it reasonable.

[J22]

Brodin asking price for a new deal is getting more expensive by the day. Kid is playing unbelievable right now.

If Brodin does re sign here after next season that's a lot of money tied up in your top four defenseman. Too bad his stock is so low right now because Dumba is the logical pick to be traded.

Spurgeon was the logical pick to be traded. Guerin already f*** that up. Brodin won't be hard to keep around if he really wants to stay.

I don’t understand why everyone thinks a D needs to be traded? I wouldn’t trade any of the four or Soucy. Unless there is some blockbuster on the table they don’t need to be moved.

As far as Brodin’s next contract it will be manageable. He doesn’t score a lot of points or goals which will keep it reasonable.

Soucy will likely be lost in the expansion draft. Spurgeon should've been traded because of his age and his contract demands. Was a no-brainer

[F Da Sue]

Brodin asking price for a new deal is getting more expensive by the day. Kid is playing unbelievable right now.

If Brodin does re sign here after next season that's a lot of money tied up in your top four defenseman. Too bad his stock is so low right now because Dumba is the logical pick to be traded.

Spurgeon was the logical pick to be traded. Guerin already f*** that up. Brodin won't be hard to keep around if he really wants to stay.

I don’t understand why everyone thinks a D needs to be traded? I wouldn’t trade any of the four or Soucy. Unless there is some blockbuster on the table they don’t need to be moved.

As far as Brodin’s next contract it will be manageable. He doesn’t score a lot of points or goals which will keep it reasonable.

What number do you think is manageable and reasonable for Brodin's next deal?

[J22]

Brodin asking price for a new deal is getting more expensive by the day. Kid is playing unbelievable right now.

If Brodin does re sign here after next season that's a lot of money tied up in your top four defenseman. Too bad his stock is so low right now because Dumba is the logical pick to be traded.

Spurgeon was the logical pick to be traded. Guerin already f*** that up. Brodin won't be hard to keep around if he really wants to stay.

I don’t understand why everyone thinks a D needs to be traded? I wouldn’t trade any of the four or Soucy. Unless there is some blockbuster on the table they don’t need to be moved.

As far as Brodin’s next contract it will be manageable. He doesn’t score a lot of points or goals which will keep it reasonable.

What number do you think is manageable and reasonable for Brodin's next deal?

His next deal will start with a 6. Problem is he won't sign a long term extension in Minnesota without protection against the expansion draft, and Guerin sure as hell can't give him that.

[bearpaw28]

Brodin asking price for a new deal is getting more expensive by the day. Kid is playing unbelievable right now.

If Brodin does re sign here after next season that's a lot of money tied up in your top four defenseman. Too bad his stock is so low right now because Dumba is the logical pick to be traded.

Brodin is (has always been) a terrific regular season player. But when the playoffs start & the physicality ramps up 50% in round one...Brodin gets (and always has) gotten the crap pounded out of him, making him less effective. And with the expansion draft coming (Dumba, Spurgeon or Brodin) Suters going nowhere, the Wild need to trade one of the top 4 while they still have value, they can’t afford to lose Soucy the way he’s playing & scoring

[team22tank]

Brodin asking price for a new deal is getting more expensive by the day. Kid is playing unbelievable right now.

If Brodin does re sign here after next season that's a lot of money tied up in your top four defenseman. Too bad his stock is so low right now because Dumba is the logical pick to be traded.

Brodin is (has always been) a terrific regular season player. But when the playoffs start & the physicality ramps up 50% in round one...Brodin gets (and always has) gotten the crap pounded out of him, making him less effective. And with the expansion draft coming (Dumba, Spurgeon or Brodin) Suters going nowhere, the Wild need to trade one of the top 4 while they still have value, they can’t afford to lose Soucy the way he’s playing & scoring

Sorry your playoff analysis is off. Scoring goals has been problem one, two and three, especially in the years when they had a legit chance And you could throw in untimely bad goals against. Brodin has hardly been THE issue.

They traded two of their three softest playoff players in Nino and Coyle. The softest still remains, Zucker.

And trading players doesn’t finesse your way out of the expansion draft.

[Grovetown Scotty]

Dumba and Zucker should be on the block. Hold your draft picks. They would be stupid to trade Brodin, and I am all in for any move to upgrade the goaltending situation. That includes drafting the Russian kid in June.

[grothm01]

According to the expansion draft rules, first and second year players don't need to be protected. So did the 3 games Soucy played last year count as a year?

[J22]

According to the expansion draft rules, first and second year players don't need to be protected. So did the 3 games Soucy played last year count as a year?

It's years in pro hockey, so his time in the AHL counts as well.

[J22]

Dumba and Zucker should be on the block. Hold your draft picks. They would be stupid to trade Brodin, and I am all in for any move to upgrade the goaltending situation. That includes drafting the Russian kid in June.

Drafting a goalie in the 1st round is generally a bad idea. The Wild doing so this year would be a terrible idea.

[grothm01]

According to the expansion draft rules, first and second year players don't need to be protected. So did the 3 games Soucy played last year count as a year?

It's years in pro hockey, so his time in the AHL counts as well.

The rule I read say NHL 2 years.

[grothm01]

https://www.nhl.com/news/seattle-2021-n ... -302586918

Expansion rules.

[Grovetown Scotty]

Dumba and Zucker should be on the block. Hold your draft picks. They would be stupid to trade Brodin, and I am all in for any move to upgrade the goaltending situation. That includes drafting the Russian kid in June.

Drafting a goalie in the 1st round is generally a bad idea. The Wild doing so this year would be a terrible idea.

Our history of first round draft picks has been brutal. Gaborik was the closest thing to a franchise player. We traded Burns. I say roll the dice and maybe we get a franchise goalie.

[J22]

https://www.nhl.com/news/seattle-2021-n ... -302586918

Expansion rules.

That refers to having an NHL contract.

I tried to add a link from a Sportsnet story but it isn't working so well. Here's a quote from the story though-

Players with two years of professional experience or less will be exempt from the process. Determining who that covers is based on the definition included in the collective bargaining agreement – meaning that 10 games played in the NHL at age 18 or 19 counts as a season, as does any American Hockey League or NHL season for players older than that.

[J22]

Dumba and Zucker should be on the block. Hold your draft picks. They would be stupid to trade Brodin, and I am all in for any move to upgrade the goaltending situation. That includes drafting the Russian kid in June.

Drafting a goalie in the 1st round is generally a bad idea. The Wild doing so this year would be a terrible idea.

Our history of first round draft picks has been brutal. Gaborik was the closest thing to a franchise player. We traded Burns. I say roll the dice and maybe we get a franchise goalie.

And the draft history says that's not a good idea. The Wild don't need a "franchise" goaltender. They need top 6 centers

[bearpaw28]

Brodin asking price for a new deal is getting more expensive by the day. Kid is playing unbelievable right now.

If Brodin does re sign here after next season that's a lot of money tied up in your top four defenseman. Too bad his stock is so low right now because Dumba is the logical pick to be traded.

Brodin is (has always been) a terrific regular season player. But when the playoffs start & the physicality ramps up 50% in round one...Brodin gets (and always has) gotten the crap pounded out of him, making him less effective. And with the expansion draft coming (Dumba, Spurgeon or Brodin) Suters going nowhere, the Wild need to trade one of the top 4 while they still have value, they can’t afford to lose Soucy the way he’s playing & scoring

Sorry your playoff analysis is off. Scoring goals has been problem one, two and three, especially in the years when they had a legit chance And you could throw in untimely bad goals against. Brodin has hardly been THE issue.

My playoff comment didn’t refer to the entire team. It referred to Brodin and is accurate, he gets bullied physically in the playoffs, and it decreases his effectiveness

[streakygopher]

Brodin asking price for a new deal is getting more expensive by the day. Kid is playing unbelievable right now.

If Brodin does re sign here after next season that's a lot of money tied up in your top four defenseman. Too bad his stock is so low right now because Dumba is the logical pick to be traded.

Brodin is (has always been) a terrific regular season player. But when the playoffs start & the physicality ramps up 50% in round one...Brodin gets (and always has) gotten the crap pounded out of him, making him less effective. And with the expansion draft coming (Dumba, Spurgeon or Brodin) Suters going nowhere, the Wild need to trade one of the top 4 while they still have value, they can’t afford to lose Soucy the way he’s playing & scoring

Sorry your playoff analysis is off. Scoring goals has been problem one, two and three, especially in the years when they had a legit chance And you could throw in untimely bad goals against. Brodin has hardly been THE issue.

My playoff comment didn’t refer to the entire team. It referred to Brodin and is accurate, he gets bullied physically in the playoffs, and it decreases his effectiveness

This feels like deja vu all over again....

The problem is your comment should have referred to the entire team, because it's like you're reaching through a bagful of marshmallows to find a certain one. Why single out Brodin? Spurgeon is smaller and softer than Brodin, and he doesn't skate or defend quite as well. I haven't checked any stats, but this season he doesn't seem to be pouring the puck into the net either...same story with Dumba. Speaking of Dumba, he's way edgier than Brodin or Spurgeon combined, but his defensive skills aren't a match and he can be a flat out mess.

I have zero problems with Brodin not scoring goals. He's a top end skater who can play all three zones and shut down other teams' top players. Deficiencies included, he's grades out as an A. We can wish all we want that Brodin and Spurgeon would play with the attitude of Suter or Koivu, but by now it's pretty obvious that's not going to happen. Adding a big guy like Soucy is a good start, but they need to have that same attitude up front from guys who can actually, you know, score goals.

This team is short on goal tending, short on scoring talent and long on aging players with disproportionate contracts. Brodin has been one of the precious few bright spots so far this year. Last year, Nanne said the Wild would be crazy to trade Brodin, and his play this season is validating that comment.

[ScoobyDoo]

They're also short on skating speed. Top Trade Bait listed on anyone's list is always the fastest skater on the team. Yet, while he was out the team was horrid. And now that he's back the team is playing well again.

[team22tank]

They're also short on skating speed. Top Trade Bait listed on anyone's list is always the fastest skater on the team. Yet, while he was out the team was horrid. And now that he's back the team is playing well again.

Who in the top 9 would you move to make room for Kaprizov?

[ScoobyDoo]

They're also short on skating speed. Top Trade Bait listed on anyone's list is always the fastest skater on the team. Yet, while he was out the team was horrid. And now that he's back the team is playing well again.

Who in the top 9 would you move to make room for Kaprizov?

I don't know right now. I just don't think getting slower does anything. Fortunately it's not my decision. The one thing I do know is I wouldn't be dealing Zucker if it were me. And everyone can rejoice cause not only don't I have the job, but I will never have the job.

[streakygopher]

They're also short on skating speed. Top Trade Bait listed on anyone's list is always the fastest skater on the team. Yet, while he was out the team was horrid. And now that he's back the team is playing well again.

Who in the top 9 would you move to make room for Kaprizov?

I don't know right now. I just don't think getting slower does anything. Fortunately it's not my decision. The one thing I do know is I wouldn't be dealing Zucker if it were me. And everyone can rejoice cause not only don't I have the job, but I will never have the job.

I would favor moving Zucker but could go either way on it. No doubt that Greenway and Ek are grinders, not speedsters, and Kunin, while faster, still fits more into the grinder role, as does Parise. Parise's saving grace is that he has an uncanny ability to gain possession of pucks and put the puck in the net. Fiala and Donato have speed. Koivu and Staal do not. This team is a mixed bag and probably is top heavy in age and slow speed.

[Grovetown Scotty]

Why does everyone think that this Kaprizov is going to be the next Ovechkin. Hasn’t played a game yet. He might turn out to be a stiff too. I guess he would fit right in though.

[J22]

Why does everyone think that this Kaprizov is going to be the next Ovechkin. Hasn’t played a game yet. He might turn out to be a stiff too. I guess he would fit right in though.

I don't see anyone thinking that he will be Ovechkin, but it isn't hard to figure out that he's a better player than most of this roster.

[team22tank]

Why does everyone think that this Kaprizov is going to be the next Ovechkin. Hasn’t played a game yet. He might turn out to be a stiff too. I guess he would fit right in though.

Has nothing to do with it.

Has to do with how contracts work in the NHL and available spots.

[frozen4champs]

Walz 3 minutes into the game " The Wild really have come out and punched Florida in the mouth" 1 minute later Florida scores

[Grovetown Scotty]

Lazy back check by all 3 forwards.

[Grovetown Scotty]

Fiala, Rask, and Zucker line not working out.

[Cowgirl]

I got home and started watching at 2-2. It’s been a very entertaining game since then. Let’s go Wild!

[team22tank]

Leipold is a moron.

On pace for 32 goals and Top 10 scoring defensemen. Guess will wait another year for the contracts to be a disaster.