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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by team22tank » Fri Apr 26 8:31 am

ScoobyDoo wrote:
Fri Apr 26 8:26 am
team22tank wrote:
Fri Apr 26 8:24 am
ScoobyDoo wrote:
Fri Apr 26 8:23 am
team22tank wrote:
Fri Apr 26 8:18 am
Not sure how they were set up better headed into last year.

Oline was set back right out of the gate, No Berger or Easton from the year prior and Elflein was screwed with the injury in the last game against the Eagles.

New OC from outside the team, Soprano passes away and new QB.
I'm referring to the same timeframe. At this exact timeframe last year they were better set up. I know what happened. Thanks for the history lesson.
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There are zero games in April, May, June, July, August. I am hoping they are set up better come September 1, with personnel and health at this point they should be.
With this towns love for major injuries to sports stars I have my doubts.
Can't disagree there. All joking aside, just getting through an NFL training camp and pre season takes some luck these days.

I like that we have 3 lineman that are all young, Elflien, O'neill, and now Bradbury. And those 3 are very athletic. Will be interesting to see if we grab another one this weekend for depth.

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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by ScoobyDoo » Fri Apr 26 8:46 am

team22tank wrote:
Fri Apr 26 8:31 am
ScoobyDoo wrote:
Fri Apr 26 8:26 am
team22tank wrote:
Fri Apr 26 8:24 am
ScoobyDoo wrote:
Fri Apr 26 8:23 am
team22tank wrote:
Fri Apr 26 8:18 am
Not sure how they were set up better headed into last year.

Oline was set back right out of the gate, No Berger or Easton from the year prior and Elflein was screwed with the injury in the last game against the Eagles.

New OC from outside the team, Soprano passes away and new QB.
I'm referring to the same timeframe. At this exact timeframe last year they were better set up. I know what happened. Thanks for the history lesson.
Your welcome.

There are zero games in April, May, June, July, August. I am hoping they are set up better come September 1, with personnel and health at this point they should be.
With this towns love for major injuries to sports stars I have my doubts.
Can't disagree there. All joking aside, just getting through an NFL training camp and pre season takes some luck these days.

I like that we have 3 lineman that are all young, Elflien, O'neill, and now Bradbury. And those 3 are very athletic. Will be interesting to see if we grab another one this weekend for depth.
There last two number one picks have had their rookie seasons destroyed by knee injuries. I don't think Cook came back as good as he looked his rookie year. We'll see with Hughes.

Luck in this town with injuries is nill.
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by bearpaw28 » Fri Apr 26 8:52 am

ScoobyDoo wrote:
Fri Apr 26 8:46 am
team22tank wrote:
Fri Apr 26 8:31 am
ScoobyDoo wrote:
Fri Apr 26 8:26 am
team22tank wrote:
Fri Apr 26 8:24 am
ScoobyDoo wrote:
Fri Apr 26 8:23 am
team22tank wrote:
Fri Apr 26 8:18 am
Not sure how they were set up better headed into last year.

Oline was set back right out of the gate, No Berger or Easton from the year prior and Elflein was screwed with the injury in the last game against the Eagles.

New OC from outside the team, Soprano passes away and new QB.
I'm referring to the same timeframe. At this exact timeframe last year they were better set up. I know what happened. Thanks for the history lesson.
Your welcome.

There are zero games in April, May, June, July, August. I am hoping they are set up better come September 1, with personnel and health at this point they should be.
With this towns love for major injuries to sports stars I have my doubts.
Can't disagree there. All joking aside, just getting through an NFL training camp and pre season takes some luck these days.

I like that we have 3 lineman that are all young, Elflien, O'neill, and now Bradbury. And those 3 are very athletic. Will be interesting to see if we grab another one this weekend for depth.
There last two number one picks have had their rookie seasons destroyed by knee injuries. I don't think Cook came back as good as he looked his rookie year. We'll see with Hughes.

Luck in this town with injuries is nill.
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by ScoobyDoo » Fri Apr 26 8:57 am

Twins - No Sano
Vikings - #1 draft pick knee injury, numerous others.
Wolves - Covington (key pickup in Butler trade, many other injuries this season)
Wild - Dumba, Koivu (this year, other years others)

Injuries galore in this town.
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by Bertogliat » Fri Apr 26 10:38 am

ScoobyDoo wrote:
Fri Apr 26 8:57 am
Twins - No Sano
Vikings - #1 draft pick knee injury, numerous others.
Wolves - Covington (key pickup in Butler trade, many other injuries this season)
Wild - Dumba, Koivu (this year, other years others)

Injuries galore in this town.
And these are just players that GG13 didn't jinx! :shock:

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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by Bonin21 » Fri Apr 26 11:05 am

Round 2 OL:
Taylor
Ford
Risner
Little

Do the Vikings go all in on OL?
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by Handyman » Fri Apr 26 11:52 am

I dunno...I mean 2 weeks ago I would have said yes but I think if there is a better player at another position of need in that spot you have to seriously look at taking them. You could make an argument for going BPA outside of say a QB or CB.

I mean on the one hand you see Taylor is still there and you think "that guy was a Top 10 guy we need to take him!" but at the same time you have to wonder why all these teams are passing on him. If he is injured that maybe is something you can look past but if it is attitude then I would rather just keep letting him fall.

I dunno...outside of completing reaching for someone I am not sure there is a wrong answer to who they should draft.
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by Beauner » Fri Apr 26 1:54 pm

I think they go BPA here in Rd 2 regardless of position (outside maybe QB). DL, CB, OL, LB, hell even WR (the two Ole Miss guys could be a good fit here). I expect them to end up making 3 picks today somehow.
Then 3rd Rd I bet they go back to OL if they didn't take one in Rd 2.
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

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An Ole Miss receiver? Uh oh lmao
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by Beauner » Fri Apr 26 2:12 pm

Bonin21 wrote:
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An Ole Miss receiver? Uh oh lmao
Yeah I know. 😂
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

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Bonin21 wrote:
Fri Apr 26 11:05 am
Round 2 OL:
Taylor
Ford
Risner
Little

Do the Vikings go all in on OL?
All gone. Could be wide open. Bama TE?
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by Bonin21 » Fri Apr 26 7:32 pm

Nice
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by Handyman » Fri Apr 26 7:56 pm

Does this mean Rudy is going bye bye?
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by bearpaw28 » Fri Apr 26 8:04 pm

Maybe not this year, but likely next year

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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by Bonin21 » Fri Apr 26 8:05 pm

Ya if he doesn't get traded to have two weapons at TE plus the two WRs plus Cook...
All in this year and tons of pressure on the should be improved OL.
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by Bonin21 » Fri Apr 26 9:08 pm

Jaylon Ferguson if he's there?
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by Bonin21 » Fri Apr 26 9:40 pm

Nvm Vikings traded down 7 and he went.

Traded again. Ended up trading
81 and 209 for
92, 159, 204
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by F Da Sue » Fri Apr 26 9:48 pm

And then they traded down again.

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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by F Da Sue » Fri Apr 26 10:00 pm

Vikings have now traded back 4 times in the 3rd round.

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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by Handyman » Fri Apr 26 10:01 pm

Listening to Meatsauce and Nordo melt down over the trades is awesome! :lol:
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by Bonin21 » Fri Apr 26 10:02 pm

Bonin21 wrote:
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81 and 209 for
102, 159, 191, 193, 204
Updated
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by Bertogliat » Fri Apr 26 10:17 pm

Rick has a beauner for 6th rounders.....

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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by Beauner » Fri Apr 26 10:24 pm

Vikings have 9 picks tomorrow.
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by Beauner » Fri Apr 26 10:25 pm

Pick #102 for the Vikings is Alexander Mattison, RB from Boise State.
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by The Rube » Fri Apr 26 10:26 pm

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Pick #102 for the Vikings is Alexander Madison, RB from Boise State.
Throw as many darts as you can. Something should work out. That late in the draft? I'd say good decision.
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Post by Bonin21 » Fri Apr 26 10:28 pm

That was an off the board pick in terms of RBs
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by GoldenRube » Fri Apr 26 10:47 pm

He was on the CBSSports board,

Alexander Mattison, Boise State
NFL comparison: Royce Freeman
Freeman was a record-setting bell cow at Oregon, a low center of gravity slasher who didn't run by many down the field at the end of his illustrious collegiate career but was a nightmare to tackle. I get a similar feel with Mattison, a powerful throwback type with good lean, burst, and strength to fall forward without much juice to break off huge gains.
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by Bonin21 » Fri Apr 26 10:53 pm

They had him round 3? Maybe he is suited well for the backup role for Cook.
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by bearpaw28 » Fri Apr 26 10:55 pm

Bonin21 wrote:
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They had him round 3? Maybe he is suited well for the backup role for Cook.
That’s clearly the idea with Latavious now GONE

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Post by Bonin21 » Fri Apr 26 10:59 pm

I just didn't really know if that's something you spend a third on
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by Snowcool08 » Fri Apr 26 11:07 pm

I just turned it on NFL network and they were calling Irv Smith the steal of the 2nd round. Then they discussed who the Vikings would trade Rudolph to. I can't disagree more with that take. Keep Rudolph for at least one year. TE is one of the toughest positions to transition from college to pros. In college they are asked to chip DE or OLB if they have them block at all. In the pros they are expected to hold a block every once in a while. Most TEs take a year or even two to really get a grasp on what they are doing. Keep Rudolph while Smith learns the position.

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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by Beauner » Fri Apr 26 11:14 pm

2800 rushing yards, 29 TDs, and 60+ catches in his last two seasons at Boise. Supposed to be a solid pass blocker too.
With no Latavius and with Roc suspended, it's not surprising they went RB.
He finished in the top 5-6 for RBs in every test at the combine.

He seems to be the type of guy who can step in to a starting role for a time if Dalvin were to miss time.
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by Beauner » Fri Apr 26 11:15 pm

Snowcool08 wrote:
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I just turned it on NFL network and they were calling Irv Smith the steal of the 2nd round. Then they discussed who the Vikings would trade Rudolph to. I can't disagree more with that take. Keep Rudolph for at least one year. TE is one of the toughest positions to transition from college to pros. In college they are asked to chip DE or OLB if they have them block at all. In the pros they are expected to hold a block every once in a while. Most TEs take a year or even two to really get a grasp on what they are doing. Keep Rudolph while Smith learns the position.
I wouldn't be shocked to see them keep Rudolph but they almost have to try to trade him or somebody else (Griffen, Rhodes, Waynes) to get under the cap. Unless they don't plan on signing any of their picks.
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by Bonin21 » Fri Apr 26 11:30 pm

First time the Vikings have gone offense 1 2 3 since 1993.
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by Bertogliat » Fri Apr 26 11:36 pm

Bonin21 wrote:
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First time the Vikings have gone offense 1 2 3 since 1993.
Isn’t that the first year they had picks in the first 3 rounds after the Hershel Walker trade in 89?

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Re: Vikings 2019 season

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Snowcool08 wrote:
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I just turned it on NFL network and they were calling Irv Smith the steal of the 2nd round. Then they discussed who the Vikings would trade Rudolph to. I can't disagree more with that take. Keep Rudolph for at least one year. TE is one of the toughest positions to transition from college to pros. In college they are asked to chip DE or OLB if they have them block at all. In the pros they are expected to hold a block every once in a while. Most TEs take a year or even two to really get a grasp on what they are doing. Keep Rudolph while Smith learns the position.
We need his money and right now we have 4 TEs. They need to get rid of 1 of them and honestly Rudolph is expendable. They arent cutting Morgan and Conklin was a 4th round pick last year so cutting him does nothing.
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

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2800 rushing yards, 29 TDs, and 60+ catches in his last two seasons at Boise. Supposed to be a solid pass blocker too.
With no Latavius and with Roc suspended, it's not surprising they went RB.
He finished in the top 5-6 for RBs in every test at the combine.

He seems to be the type of guy who can step in to a starting role for a time if Dalvin were to miss time.
The Vikings have been dreadful on 3rd and short situations. Sounds like this guy could help alot.

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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by Beauner » Sat Apr 27 1:23 pm

Vikes moved up in the fourth round to nab Dru Samia, guard from OU. 2nd team all-american.
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Nice. Seven picks in rounds six and seven what in the world.
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

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Nice. Seven picks in rounds six and seven what in the world.
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Post by Beauner » Sat Apr 27 3:24 pm

Vikings add a DT, DB, and OT with 190, 191, and 193.
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by Beauner » Sat Apr 27 7:35 pm

Discussion about one of the Vikings 7th round picks.

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Not one mention that we drafted a long snapper.
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Handyman wrote:
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I just turned it on NFL network and they were calling Irv Smith the steal of the 2nd round. Then they discussed who the Vikings would trade Rudolph to. I can't disagree more with that take. Keep Rudolph for at least one year. TE is one of the toughest positions to transition from college to pros. In college they are asked to chip DE or OLB if they have them block at all. In the pros they are expected to hold a block every once in a while. Most TEs take a year or even two to really get a grasp on what they are doing. Keep Rudolph while Smith learns the position.
We need his money and right now we have 4 TEs. They need to get rid of 1 of them and honestly Rudolph is expendable. They arent cutting Morgan and Conklin was a 4th round pick last year so cutting him does nothing.
Beyond having good hands, Rudolph doesn’t block or break tackles well and isnt agile. Unless they are lucky enough to get someone to take his big contact in a trade the writing is now on the wall that they’ll probably have to release him. Good team and community guy but most likely gone.
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by The Rube » Sat Apr 27 8:56 pm

Honestly, that sucks. Get in the red zone? Toss it to Rudy. Period. Honestly, it's like tossing to Gronk in the red zone. You can't stop that. I dunno why they didn't take more advantage of that in the past. NOTE: Rudy is no Gronk, but he's within a couple spots of Gronk in that situation.
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by JWG » Thu May 02 12:40 pm

Brad Childress hired be Bears as some sort of offensive staff member.
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JWG wrote:
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Brad Childress hired be Bears as some sort of offensive staff member.
what were the bears thinking

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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by Beauner » Tue May 14 3:19 pm

That is good news.
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

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Vikings extend Rudolph, lower his cap number to give the team some more breathing room under the cap. 4 year extension.
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

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Beauner wrote:
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Vikings extend Rudolph, lower his cap number to give the team some more breathing room under the cap. 4 year extension.
I have heard this helped the cap but I haven’t seen how it helped. Are there any details?

Seems The Vikings have too many TEs. How do they deal with that?

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Re: Vikings 2019 season

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Bertogliat wrote:
Tue Jun 11 8:06 am
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Vikings extend Rudolph, lower his cap number to give the team some more breathing room under the cap. 4 year extension.
I have heard this helped the cap but I haven’t seen how it helped. Are there any details?

Seems The Vikings have too many TEs. How do they deal with that?
I would imagine a lot of money up front as a signing bonus and smaller per year payment amount.
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

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Re: Vikings 2019 season

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Beauner wrote:
Tue Jun 11 8:17 am
Bertogliat wrote:
Tue Jun 11 8:06 am
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Tue Jun 11 7:48 am
Vikings extend Rudolph, lower his cap number to give the team some more breathing room under the cap. 4 year extension.
I have heard this helped the cap but I haven’t seen how it helped. Are there any details?

Seems The Vikings have too many TEs. How do they deal with that?
I would imagine a lot of money up front as a signing bonus and smaller per year payment amount.
Yes, I would think it is structured that they could cut him lose after two years with no Cap implications or very, very, little.

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Post by gopher6 » Tue Jul 16 4:50 pm

Roc Thomas suspended for 3 games
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I smell a SB
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You arent so much of a masochist that you actually watched that did you? Preseason Football is the WORST!
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First drive. Also preseason highlights are where you can see some late round flyers for fantasy
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

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I havent played Fantasy in almost a decade...made football 10000000000000000 times better! Plus I can just walk away whenever someone tries to tell me about their team.
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Post by Beauner » Sat Aug 10 10:48 pm

I had the preseason game on my tablet while watching the Twins on tv. That Olabisi Johnson kid they drafted in the 7th round made a couple really nice catches. And Hercules Mata'afa or however you spell it, was pretty impressive (granted, against a lot of guys who won't be in the league) and lived up to Leber's hype pretty well.
Teddy looked pretty dang good.
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Everything I heard say Teddy is a great guy. I wish him luck against any team but the Vikings. May he never miss another game due to injury.

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I havent played Fantasy in almost a decade...made football 10000000000000000 times better! Plus I can just walk away whenever someone tries to tell me about their team.
I agree!!!....people start talking about FF and I turn around and walk away...
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Looks the Vikes answer to creating cap space may be saving money at the kicker position?
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Bigbeer wrote:
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Looks the Vikes answer to creating cap space may be saving money at the kicker position?
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/273 ... kings-pick

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Post by Beauner » Sun Aug 11 9:08 pm

Vikings release Kevin McDermott. Guess they are going with Austin Cutting as long snapper.

Hopefully McDermott can catch on somewhere. He's one year from being able to get full retirement from the NFL. He seems like a really good guy from all reports and I've really enjoyed hearing him on with the Power Trip
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

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gopher6 wrote:
Sun Aug 11 3:56 pm
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Looks the Vikes answer to creating cap space may be saving money at the kicker position?
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/273 ... kings-pick
The kicking game sounds like a mess. Bailey hit 3/6 in his last practice before the Saints game and they're having holding issues which may nor may not be related to having 2 snappers.

Soooo it's the snapper, the holder, or the kicker. They cut a snapper and trade for a kicker/punter who can also hold for FG. I guess they are getting to the bottom of this.. :lol:

If he ends up as the kicker AND punter, let's hope he doesn't get hurt in a game.

Dang, the guy missed a year of NFL after being jumped in East Baltimore lat year???? Yikes.

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Bertogliat wrote:
Mon Aug 12 7:15 am
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Sun Aug 11 3:56 pm
Bigbeer wrote:
Sun Aug 11 2:05 pm
Looks the Vikes answer to creating cap space may be saving money at the kicker position?
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/273 ... kings-pick
The kicking game sounds like a mess. Bailey hit 3/6 in his last practice before the Saints game and they're having holding issues which may nor may not be related to having 2 snappers.

Soooo it's the snapper, the holder, or the kicker. They cut a snapper and trade for a kicker/punter who can also hold for FG. I guess they are getting to the bottom of this.. :lol:

If he ends up as the kicker AND punter, let's hope he doesn't get hurt in a game.

Dang, the guy missed a year of NFL after being jumped in East Baltimore lat year???? Yikes.
I haven't been following this closely but I would keep Bailey and this new guy. Let our current punter go.

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Post by bearpaw28 » Mon Aug 12 10:12 am

That seems most likely what’s going to happen, unless Bailey just sucks the rest of preseason.

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Post by Slap Shot » Mon Aug 12 10:22 am

They've had kicking issues for years now under Zimmer. Didn't they bring in a new ST coach this year? They should have high expectations this year and if that proves to be true you don't want to lose games because your ST is in the toilet.
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Slap Shot wrote:
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They've had kicking issues for years now under Zimmer. Didn't they bring in a new ST coach this year? They should have high expectations this year and if that proves to be true you don't want to lose games because your ST is in the toilet.
I try not to be too knee jerk when it comes to coaches because they are at the mercy of the player performance. There isn't much a coach can do when players under perform. That said, after a period of time, as players come and go it's time to look at the coaching staff/program/routines.

For the Vikings kicking situation we probably need to look at the coaching staff as a contributor to the problems. I am not saying we should ditch the whole coaching staff over kicking, but SOMETHING is rotten in that part of the team and it isn't likely the players.


Last season the Vikings spend a fairly high draft pick on kicker Dan Carlson. The guy goes 1/4 in FG attempts and is cut form the team. Dan is cut from the team and picked up by the Raiders and converts 16 of 17 attempts. Dan Bailey comes in an hit just 21 of 27 FG. Now we have more issues.

When you continue to have issues kicker after kicker and spend draft picks in back to back years (including the trade with Baltimore) it may not be the players.

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They obviously agree with you...since they brought in a ST coach ;)
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

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Handyman wrote:
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They obviously agree with you...since they brought in a ST coach ;)
Because Mike Priefer left to be Cleveland's ST coach.
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Re: Vikings 2019 season

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Bertogliat wrote:
Mon Aug 12 11:21 am
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Mon Aug 12 10:22 am
They've had kicking issues for years now under Zimmer. Didn't they bring in a new ST coach this year? They should have high expectations this year and if that proves to be true you don't want to lose games because your ST is in the toilet.
I try not to be too knee jerk when it comes to coaches because they are at the mercy of the player performance. There isn't much a coach can do when players under perform. That said, after a period of time, as players come and go it's time to look at the coaching staff/program/routines.

For the Vikings kicking situation we probably need to look at the coaching staff as a contributor to the problems. I am not saying we should ditch the whole coaching staff over kicking, but SOMETHING is rotten in that part of the team and it isn't likely the players.

Last season the Vikings spend a fairly high draft pick on kicker Dan Carlson. The guy goes 1/4 in FG attempts and is cut form the team. Dan is cut from the team and picked up by the Raiders and converts 16 of 17 attempts. Dan Bailey comes in an hit just 21 of 27 FG. Now we have more issues.

When you continue to have issues kicker after kicker and spend draft picks in back to back years (including the trade with Baltimore) it may not be the players.
This seems very knee jerk. In regards to field goals, ect., it isn't a system or a scheme. The misses are on the kicker. Blair Walsh isn't even in the league right now at 29.

In regards to Bailey he put of the same numbers last year as he did the season prior in Dallas, 75% in 18' & 17'. And he was only slightly better in 2016, 85%. Coming off of a injury season in 2017 and then not coming into the season until part way through it isn't surprising he wasn't lights out last year.

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Re: Vikings 2019 season

Post by Bertogliat » Tue Aug 13 1:03 pm

team22tank wrote:
Tue Aug 13 8:41 am
Bertogliat wrote:
Mon Aug 12 11:21 am
Slap Shot wrote:
Mon Aug 12 10:22 am
They've had kicking issues for years now under Zimmer. Didn't they bring in a new ST coach this year? They should have high expectations this year and if that proves to be true you don't want to lose games because your ST is in the toilet.
I try not to be too knee jerk when it comes to coaches because they are at the mercy of the player performance. There isn't much a coach can do when players under perform. That said, after a period of time, as players come and go it's time to look at the coaching staff/program/routines.

For the Vikings kicking situation we probably need to look at the coaching staff as a contributor to the problems. I am not saying we should ditch the whole coaching staff over kicking, but SOMETHING is rotten in that part of the team and it isn't likely the players.

Last season the Vikings spend a fairly high draft pick on kicker Dan Carlson. The guy goes 1/4 in FG attempts and is cut form the team. Dan is cut from the team and picked up by the Raiders and converts 16 of 17 attempts. Dan Bailey comes in an hit just 21 of 27 FG. Now we have more issues.

When you continue to have issues kicker after kicker and spend draft picks in back to back years (including the trade with Baltimore) it may not be the players.
This seems very knee jerk. In regards to field goals, ect., it isn't a system or a scheme. The misses are on the kicker. Blair Walsh isn't even in the league right now at 29.

In regards to Bailey he put of the same numbers last year as he did the season prior in Dallas, 75% in 18' & 17'. And he was only slightly better in 2016, 85%. Coming off of a injury season in 2017 and then not coming into the season until part way through it isn't surprising he wasn't lights out last year.
Did you read the article Gopher 6 linked? It sounds like they're having more issues than Dan Bailey.

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