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Re: Soccer

Post by Viking » Thu Dec 03 8:28 pm

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What a f*** goal from Molino, WOW!
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Re: Soccer

Post by davescharf » Thu Dec 03 8:28 pm

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What a f*** goal from Molino, WOW!
He's been extremely good this year.

Reynoso is exactly the type of player they've missed in that #10 role...every pass just seems to be in a dangerous or perfect spot. Molino and him just click but Lod and Finlay have both been pretty good with him directing the attack as well.
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Re: Soccer

Post by gopherguy13 » Thu Dec 03 8:31 pm

davescharf wrote:
Thu Dec 03 8:28 pm
gopherguy13 wrote:
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What a f*** goal from Molino, WOW!
He's been extremely good this year.

Reynoso is exactly the type of player they've missed in that #10 role...every pass just seems to be in a dangerous or perfect spot. Molino and him just click but Lod and Finlay have both been pretty good with him directing the attack as well.
Yeah, Reynoso was so badly needed on a team like this. He can beat people and create things on his own. Peak Darwin had a bit of that to him, but Reynoso is better.

Those DSC saves are SO huge now. Could have been a completely different game if SKC would have gone up 1-0
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Re: Soccer

Post by davescharf » Thu Dec 03 8:49 pm

gopherguy13 wrote:
Thu Dec 03 8:31 pm
davescharf wrote:
Thu Dec 03 8:28 pm
gopherguy13 wrote:
Thu Dec 03 8:10 pm
What a f*** goal from Molino, WOW!
He's been extremely good this year.

Reynoso is exactly the type of player they've missed in that #10 role...every pass just seems to be in a dangerous or perfect spot. Molino and him just click but Lod and Finlay have both been pretty good with him directing the attack as well.
Yeah, Reynoso was so badly needed on a team like this. He can beat people and create things on his own. Peak Darwin had a bit of that to him, but Reynoso is better.

Those DSC saves are SO huge now. Could have been a completely different game if SKC would have gone up 1-0
Darwin did but I always felt like he was trying to do it all on his own. He just didn’t gel all that well with Ibarra, Ramirez, Angelo, etc.

Reynoso just came in and fit like a glove
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Re: Soccer

Post by gopherguy13 » Thu Dec 03 9:42 pm

What a win, on top the semis!

Seattle will be a really tough match, but this game has gotta give them confidence.
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Re: Soccer

Post by gopherguy13 » Sat Dec 05 4:07 pm

McKennie, Reyna, and Pulisic all scored today.

Imagine someone telling you 5 years ago that American players would score for Dortmund, Chelsea, and Juventus on the same day. :lol:
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Re: Soccer

Post by Chris83 » Sat Dec 05 6:07 pm

gopherguy13 wrote:
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McKennie, Reyna, and Pulisic all scored today.

Imagine someone telling you 5 years ago that American players would score for Dortmund, Chelsea, and Juventus on the same day. :lol:
It certainly is nice to be riding a "Fútbol high" for the first time in a while.
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Re: Soccer

Post by Slap Shot » Sat Dec 05 8:29 pm

I read the USMNT had a record 7 players see time on the same day in the CL. Last Tuesday I believe.
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Re: Soccer

Post by davescharf » Sun Dec 06 7:07 am

gopherguy13 wrote:
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McKennie, Reyna, and Pulisic all scored today.

Imagine someone telling you 5 years ago that American players would score for Dortmund, Chelsea, and Juventus on the same day. :lol:
I saw an overhead view of Pulisic’s goal at the end of Chelsea’s game. The pure acceleration at the end of a 60-70 yard sprint to get by his defender is just simply world class.
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Re: Soccer

Post by Viking » Sun Dec 06 10:32 am

davescharf wrote:
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gopherguy13 wrote:
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McKennie, Reyna, and Pulisic all scored today.

Imagine someone telling you 5 years ago that American players would score for Dortmund, Chelsea, and Juventus on the same day. :lol:
I saw an overhead view of Pulisic’s goal at the end of Chelsea’s game. The pure acceleration at the end of a 60-70 yard sprint to get by his defender is just simply world class.
Even more impressive when he is coming back from a hamstring injury.

Super Frank has Chelsea playing really well now.
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Re: Soccer

Post by gopherguy13 » Sun Dec 06 11:08 am

What a goal from Son in the NLD!!

He is so good

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Re: Soccer

Post by Border Gopher » Mon Dec 07 9:24 pm

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
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Re: Soccer

Post by gopherguy13 » Mon Dec 07 9:27 pm

What a f*** goal, Reynoso!!!
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Re: Soccer

Post by CollegeHockeyAddict » Mon Dec 07 9:28 pm

BEND IT LIKE REYNOSO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a cracker of a goal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Soccer

Post by JC65 » Mon Dec 07 9:43 pm




Good first half.

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Re: Soccer

Post by CollegeHockeyAddict » Mon Dec 07 10:08 pm

How is that not a foul?

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Re: Soccer

Post by Border Gopher » Mon Dec 07 10:08 pm

Nice to see replay work better than it does in the Premier League haha
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Re: Soccer

Post by CollegeHockeyAddict » Mon Dec 07 10:09 pm

It is a foul. No Goal - Loon still lead 1-0

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Re: Soccer

Post by Snowcool08 » Mon Dec 07 10:11 pm

Border Gopher wrote:
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Nice to see replay work better than it does in the Premier League haha
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Re: Soccer

Post by gopherguy13 » Mon Dec 07 10:13 pm

Equalizer is starting to feel inevitable...
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Equalizer is starting to feel inevitable...
You mean the counter...if not then shush
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Post by davescharf » Mon Dec 07 10:20 pm

Woooooooooo
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Re: Soccer

Post by JC65 » Mon Dec 07 10:20 pm

woooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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Re: Soccer

Post by CollegeHockeyAddict » Mon Dec 07 10:21 pm

GOAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 2-0

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Post by Border Gopher » Mon Dec 07 10:21 pm

Wow, goals going against the run of play
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Post by gopherguy13 » Mon Dec 07 10:23 pm

Wow wow wow! Dibassy!!
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Post by Snowcool08 » Mon Dec 07 10:28 pm

Ruh roh.

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Post by gopherguy13 » Mon Dec 07 10:43 pm

Well f***
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Post by Border Gopher » Mon Dec 07 10:43 pm

Welp
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Re: Soccer

Post by Snowcool08 » Mon Dec 07 10:46 pm

Why did we not use subs to slow the game down and chew the clock?

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Post by gopherguy13 » Mon Dec 07 10:47 pm

Lol
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Re: Soccer

Post by Border Gopher » Mon Dec 07 10:47 pm

Minnesota
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Re: Soccer

Post by JWG » Mon Dec 07 10:47 pm

Wow... just wow... that’s unfortunate.
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Re: Soccer

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Classic minnesota sports

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Re: Soccer

Post by trixR4kids » Mon Dec 07 10:55 pm

I feel like the better team won but yeah that was a heart breaker and total MN sports moment.
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Post by gopherguy13 » Mon Dec 07 10:56 pm

Hell of an accomplishment to get to the Western Conference Final without our best defender, and having to replace the MLS Goaltender of the Year.

Strengthen the squad in the offseason and get back at it.
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Post by Snowcool08 » Wed Dec 09 7:09 pm

Turned it over to the USMNT game and they’re up 5-0 in the 28’. El Salvador isn’t very good apparently. It’s the MLS team for the US tonight. No European players.

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Re: Soccer

Post by davescharf » Tue Jan 26 9:23 pm

They're not going to challenge for much this year but Arsenal won their 5th of 6 Prem League matches today. They've been doing it with the kids from their academy (Bukayo Saka and Emile Smith Rowe) leading the charge. Saka is turning into a star very quickly and it's hard to believe he's barely 19 years old.

The more I see of Mikel Arteta the more I think he's the right guy to be managing this team. They're still going to take a lot of lumps but he's going to be a heck of a manager for a long time.
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Re: Soccer

Post by davescharf » Sun Jan 31 8:38 am

Barcelona and Lionel Messi are suing a Spanish media company over the leak of his 4 year contract he signed in 2017.

According to the contract if he hits all the add-ons he will have been paid $673 million dollars in the 4 years
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Re: Soccer

Post by Border Gopher » Sun Jan 31 9:14 am

He is going to look great in sky blue.
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Re: Soccer

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He is going to look great in sky blue.
He’s still very good but I wished he’d have left Spain a few years ago. Spain has always felt like a 2-3 quality team league to me compared to other European leagues
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Post by Slap Shot » Thu Mar 18 4:46 pm

The US is playing its first qualifying match for the Olympics vs. Costa Rica. Just hit the post on a very obvious scoring opportunity. Have to win this to advance barring a lot of help in a very difficult Group A.
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Possibly outplayed so far but the US goes up 1-0 at 35:00!!
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Re: Soccer

Post by Viking » Thu Mar 18 6:07 pm

MN United midfielder Hassani Dotson playing tonight as well.
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@gopherguy13 ’s Spurs have had a rough few weeks. First losing the NLD and then blowing a 2-0 first leg advantage in the Europa League today
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Re: Soccer

Post by gopherguy13 » Fri Mar 19 2:41 pm

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Spurs have had a rough few weeks. First losing the NLD and then blowing a 2-0 first leg advantage in the Europa League today
Yeah they might as well fire Jose...

Firing Poch was the worst thing they ever did. Took them to the Champions League final, and they fired him. I think they thought they were a bigger club than they really are when they did that. Could be years before they ever get a manager that good back in the door.

As far as the brand of football goes, watching Mourinho teams makes me want to claw my eyes out. Poch's teams were always fun to watch. If Mou isn't winning trophies, send him packing...
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Spurs have had a rough few weeks. First losing the NLD and then blowing a 2-0 first leg advantage in the Europa League today
Yeah they might as well fire Jose...

Firing Poch was the worst thing they ever did. Took them to the Champions League final, and they fired him. I think they thought they were a bigger club than they really are when they did that. Could be years before they ever get a manager that good back in the door.

As far as the brand of football goes, watching Mourinho teams makes me want to claw my eyes out. Poch's teams were always fun to watch. If Mou isn't winning trophies, send him packing...
Especially when Poch may take PSG to the Finals again this year.

I’m surprised Mourinho keeps getting jobs at this point. His shelf life is 2-3 years wherever he goes. At least if Arsenal does something dumb and gets rid of Arteta (who I think is building something good at the Emirates) I shouldn’t have to worry about them ever hiring him.
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Re: Soccer

Post by Viking » Fri Mar 19 6:05 pm

davescharf wrote:
Fri Mar 19 3:10 pm
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davescharf wrote:
Thu Mar 18 7:14 pm
Spurs have had a rough few weeks. First losing the NLD and then blowing a 2-0 first leg advantage in the Europa League today
Yeah they might as well fire Jose...

Firing Poch was the worst thing they ever did. Took them to the Champions League final, and they fired him. I think they thought they were a bigger club than they really are when they did that. Could be years before they ever get a manager that good back in the door.

As far as the brand of football goes, watching Mourinho teams makes me want to claw my eyes out. Poch's teams were always fun to watch. If Mou isn't winning trophies, send him packing...
Especially when Poch may take PSG to the Finals again this year.

I’m surprised Mourinho keeps getting jobs at this point. His shelf life is 2-3 years wherever he goes. At least if Arsenal does something dumb and gets rid of Arteta (who I think is building something good at the Emirates) I shouldn’t have to worry about them ever hiring him.
That's a bold statement considering their draw. Would have to beat Bayern and (likely) Man City just to get there. I like Chelsea's draw a lot more!!! Keep The Blue Flag Flying High!!!
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Re: Soccer

Post by davescharf » Fri Mar 19 7:21 pm

Viking wrote:
Fri Mar 19 6:05 pm
davescharf wrote:
Fri Mar 19 3:10 pm
gopherguy13 wrote:
Fri Mar 19 2:41 pm
davescharf wrote:
Thu Mar 18 7:14 pm
Spurs have had a rough few weeks. First losing the NLD and then blowing a 2-0 first leg advantage in the Europa League today
Yeah they might as well fire Jose...

Firing Poch was the worst thing they ever did. Took them to the Champions League final, and they fired him. I think they thought they were a bigger club than they really are when they did that. Could be years before they ever get a manager that good back in the door.

As far as the brand of football goes, watching Mourinho teams makes me want to claw my eyes out. Poch's teams were always fun to watch. If Mou isn't winning trophies, send him packing...
Especially when Poch may take PSG to the Finals again this year.

I’m surprised Mourinho keeps getting jobs at this point. His shelf life is 2-3 years wherever he goes. At least if Arsenal does something dumb and gets rid of Arteta (who I think is building something good at the Emirates) I shouldn’t have to worry about them ever hiring him.
That's a bold statement considering their draw. Would have to beat Bayern and (likely) Man City just to get there. I like Chelsea's draw a lot more!!! Keep The Blue Flag Flying High!!!
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It'll be interesting to see if Poch can reverse PSG's CL mojo. They always seem to choke it away lol
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f*** relegate them all in their domestic leagues for trying to pull that $h!t. Embarrassing.

FIFA came out and said they would consider not allowing players who participate in this to play for their national teams. And all the domestic leagues came out very strongly against this today with statements.

If FIFA and the leagues stick together and threaten harsh consequences, even expulsion, for these clubs, they might be able to stop it from happening. We can only hope...
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Tottenham is like the little brother that mom made the older kids bring with
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Saw a funny tweet comparing Tottenham to Western Michigan. Got a belly laugh.

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Saw a funny tweet comparing Tottenham to Western Michigan. Got a belly laugh.
I did think of the Nacho when I saw this. Somebody has to be the bottom of the league. Tottenham would fill that role perfectly. Just Western and Miami did.

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Post by davescharf » Mon Apr 19 7:07 am

I don’t think the leagues can ban the clubs joining this because of the massive impact it would have on all the other teams in those leagues.

That said if FIFA did decide to ban them from International Duty that might have some teeth, but I doubt they have the balls to do it

In other news, what was your favorite Jose Mourinho memory at Tottenham?
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I don’t think the leagues can ban the clubs joining this because of the massive impact it would have on all the other teams in those leagues.

That said if FIFA did decide to ban them from International Duty that might have some teeth, but I doubt they have the balls to do it

In other news, what was your favorite Jose Mourinho memory at Tottenham?
I feel like FIFA would do it, I hope they do. This whole thing is a direct attack on the European game, a bastardization of Continental competition.

My interest in European soccer will drastically go down if this ends up happening.
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This is going to be VERY interesting

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I think FIFA would not hesitate to do it.
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Interesting that there are no German or French clubs on the list, specifically Bayern and PSG. Not sure the logic of trying to form a super league when that list already looks like the Champions League.

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Interesting that there are no German or French clubs on the list, specifically Bayern and PSG. Not sure the logic of trying to form a super league when that list already looks like the Champions League.
The logic? What is the logic for everything in the world?

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Interesting that there are no German or French clubs on the list, specifically Bayern and PSG. Not sure the logic of trying to form a super league when that list already looks like the Champions League.
Germany clubs like Bayern and Dortmund have 50%+1 fan ownership, because they are in Germany I believe. The fans have a say, unlike in other places. PSG being owned by Qataris probably has something to do with their absence.

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Interesting that there are no German or French clubs on the list, specifically Bayern and PSG. Not sure the logic of trying to form a super league when that list already looks like the Champions League.
The logic would be that there is no threat of relegation out of the league, like there currently is with the CL. If you're not good enough, you don't get to be in the Champions League. This would shelter those clubs from that, which is complete and utter horseshit.

It would be like in college football if Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Notre Dame, USC, Texas, etc, etc, all just said "We're just going to bypass the selection committee and just hold a playoff with all of us every year, regardless of how good or bad we are"

There would be riots if that happened...
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Interesting that there are no German or French clubs on the list, specifically Bayern and PSG. Not sure the logic of trying to form a super league when that list already looks like the Champions League.
Germany clubs like Bayern and Dortmund have 50%+1 fan ownership, because they are in Germany I believe. The fans have a say, unlike in other places. PSG being owned by Qataris probably has something to do with their absence.
Nailed it with PSG. One of their main owners also owns BeIN Sports, who has a contract with the Champions League in Europe, I believe. So the PSG owners have a financial stake in the CL. Were that not the case, they probably would have been the first ones banging the drum for this Super League, lol
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This is going to be VERY interesting

So, honest question, as I have no idea how their contracts work.

What can the players actually do? Do they even have the option to refuse to play these games?
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I don’t think the leagues can ban the clubs joining this because of the massive impact it would have on all the other teams in those leagues.

That said if FIFA did decide to ban them from International Duty that might have some teeth, but I doubt they have the balls to do it

In other news, what was your favorite Jose Mourinho memory at Tottenham?
It is against Premier League bylaws to enter any competition without the approval of The FA. So, while they can not be banned from joinig this Super League, they can be kicked out of the Premier League. I can't imagine any fan base accepting this whole thing.
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Steve MN wrote:
Mon Apr 19 1:29 pm
gopherguy13 wrote:
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This is going to be VERY interesting

So, honest question, as I have no idea how their contracts work.

What can the players actually do? Do they even have the option to refuse to play these games?
Well, the course of action for a player in this case would be to go to his club and say, "I'm not going to play in these games, if you refuse to drop out of this league, I demand that you sell me to a team who is not in this league." At the end of the day, the players hold the ultimate power in deciding whether they want to play. The clubs can't force them to do anything. Assuming FIFA/UEFA keep that stance, and says that anyone who plays in a Super League game can never play for their national team again, that will have to be the choice of every player.

Guys like Aubamayang at Arsenal, who is from Gabon, never going to realistically win a World Cup, maybe he's OK with it. But a guy like Paul Pogba at Manchester United, who is from France and still in his prime, I'd imagine he'd have a big problem with that. Hell, look at Christian Pulisic at Chelsea. He'd have to decide if he's OK with never playing for the US National Team again.

The national teams are so important to a lot of these guys. If anything is going to kill this league, that will be it, IMO.
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Mon Apr 19 7:07 am
I don’t think the leagues can ban the clubs joining this because of the massive impact it would have on all the other teams in those leagues.

That said if FIFA did decide to ban them from International Duty that might have some teeth, but I doubt they have the balls to do it

In other news, what was your favorite Jose Mourinho memory at Tottenham?
It is against Premier League bylaws to enter any competition without the approval of The FA. So, while they can not be banned from joinig this Super League, they can be kicked out of the Premier League. I can't imagine any fan base accepting this whole thing.
It's really kind of a fascinating game of chicken that will be going on here.

The PL clubs are thinking "There's no way they'll ACTUALLY kick us out of the league", and the PL is thinking "There's no way they'll go through with this if we kick them out of the league".

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gopherguy13 wrote:
Mon Apr 19 1:40 pm
Steve MN wrote:
Mon Apr 19 1:29 pm
gopherguy13 wrote:
Mon Apr 19 8:24 am
This is going to be VERY interesting

So, honest question, as I have no idea how their contracts work.

What can the players actually do? Do they even have the option to refuse to play these games?
Well, the course of action for a player in this case would be to go to his club and say, "I'm not going to play in these games, if you refuse to drop out of this league, I demand that you sell me to a team who is not in this league." At the end of the day, the players hold the ultimate power in deciding whether they want to play. The clubs can't force them to do anything. Assuming FIFA/UEFA keep that stance, and says that anyone who plays in a Super League game can never play for their national team again, that will have to be the choice of every player.

Guys like Aubamayang at Arsenal, who is from Gabon, never going to realistically win a World Cup, maybe he's OK with it. But a guy like Paul Pogba at Manchester United, who is from France and still in his prime, I'd imagine he'd have a big problem with that. Hell, look at Christian Pulisic at Chelsea. He'd have to decide if he's OK with never playing for the US National Team again.

The national teams are so important to a lot of these guys. If anything is going to kill this league, that will be it, IMO.
I completely understand that the national teams are really important to the players. But if they demand to be sold to another team, but their club doesn't, do they have any recourse other than to stop playing entirely, other than for the national team games?

Of course, any player not already with one of the teams in question could just refuse to sign a contract there, so it kind of fixes itself in the long-term.

Certainly a huge mess all around.
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Post by gopherguy13 » Mon Apr 19 1:57 pm

Steve MN wrote:
Mon Apr 19 1:54 pm
gopherguy13 wrote:
Mon Apr 19 1:40 pm
Steve MN wrote:
Mon Apr 19 1:29 pm
gopherguy13 wrote:
Mon Apr 19 8:24 am
This is going to be VERY interesting

So, honest question, as I have no idea how their contracts work.

What can the players actually do? Do they even have the option to refuse to play these games?
Well, the course of action for a player in this case would be to go to his club and say, "I'm not going to play in these games, if you refuse to drop out of this league, I demand that you sell me to a team who is not in this league." At the end of the day, the players hold the ultimate power in deciding whether they want to play. The clubs can't force them to do anything. Assuming FIFA/UEFA keep that stance, and says that anyone who plays in a Super League game can never play for their national team again, that will have to be the choice of every player.

Guys like Aubamayang at Arsenal, who is from Gabon, never going to realistically win a World Cup, maybe he's OK with it. But a guy like Paul Pogba at Manchester United, who is from France and still in his prime, I'd imagine he'd have a big problem with that. Hell, look at Christian Pulisic at Chelsea. He'd have to decide if he's OK with never playing for the US National Team again.

The national teams are so important to a lot of these guys. If anything is going to kill this league, that will be it, IMO.
I completely understand that the national teams are really important to the players. But if they demand to be sold to another team, but their club doesn't, do they have any recourse other than to stop playing entirely, other than for the national team games?

Certainly a huge mess all around.
I don't think so, they would just be stuck not playing until their contract runs out.

But the club would have to be REALLY petty to let that happen. Like any sports league, the players are a commodity to them. They have a commodity which is about to provide no value to them, so they might as well sell it while someone will give them money for it, rather than just let it go for free. So at the end of the day, I think if the players flat out say "I won't play for you", the clubs will comply, and sell them.
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Makes sense about PSG and Bayern. I can't see the players agreeing to forgo National team participation.

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Makes sense about PSG and Bayern. I can't see the players agreeing to forgo National team participation.
Oh PSG and Bayern will be joining at some point, you can bet your butt on it. There are supposed to be 15 founding members and the three seats being warmed up are surely for Bayern, Dortmund, and PSG. All three were members of the old cartel dubbed the G-14.
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Makes sense about PSG and Bayern. I can't see the players agreeing to forgo National team participation.
Oh PSG and Bayern will be joining at some point, you can bet your butt on it. There are supposed to be 15 founding members and the three seats being warmed up are surely for Bayern, Dortmund, and PSG. All three were members of the old cartel dubbed the G-14.
Wouldn't Bayern and Dortmund need the fans' approval, because of the 51% rule? I don't forsee any fan base voting for this.
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WOW. UEFA is not f*** around
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Makes sense about PSG and Bayern. I can't see the players agreeing to forgo National team participation.
Oh PSG and Bayern will be joining at some point, you can bet your butt on it. There are supposed to be 15 founding members and the three seats being warmed up are surely for Bayern, Dortmund, and PSG. All three were members of the old cartel dubbed the G-14.
Wouldn't Bayern and Dortmund need the fans' approval, because of the 51% rule? I don't forsee any fan base voting for this.
I won't claim to know the intricacies of their ownership/approval situation, but they won't really be left with a choice if this goes through. While they are what I will dub very "proud" clubs, are they really going to sit on the sidelines of what will ultimately become the only top European competition? They definitely aren't immune to the current financial issues that are plaguing the vast majority of football clubs. Not to mention, who is going to want to play for the noble German clubs on the outside that are not able to offer the amount of wages the Super League clubs can?

Personally, I'm still hoping this is some huge bluff, but it's probably way beyond that now.
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Post by Border Gopher » Mon Apr 19 5:41 pm

Uh, so Florentino Perez just said that they didn't invite PSG lol

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