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I like aggressive base running, but I agree that sending Adrianza was the wrong decision. With a guy at third and one out it changes the at bat for (was it?) Schoop. Looking to convert a pitch to a medium deep fly ball or hitting a ground ball away is better than having to hit safely. It's possible that even the grounder to third might score Adrianza...never know but we'll never find out.
The Twins' "ace" set a bad tone early by going out and getting hit around the first couple innings.
Twins miss Buxton and now Cruz, but Cleveland was easily the better team this weekend. It seemed like the Indians had base runners pretty much every inning these past four games. I'd trade Twins pitchers for theirs in a hot second.
And what's with Rogers? Geezus, suddenly this guy is the poster boy for a shaky pitching staff.
Yeah Schoop was due up next. With runners on 2 and 3 and 1 out it's likely they would have walked him to set up a force at the plate. Plus it would be a lefty-lefty matchup. Hand has been extremely tough on lefties this year (.163 average and no XBH). Obviously Kepler would basically just need to lift a fly ball to the outfield rather than get a hit. But if they bring a 5th guy in to play infield there as a lot of teams like to do, it's a pretty easy play to get the force at the plate if they don't bobble it.
As for Rogers: he's been pretty poor all season long when he's been asked to go on back-to-back days. He threw 30+ pitches last night in two innings. Today's outing puts his ERA on the second of back-to-back days at like 13.50.
I think the odds of him being safe at the plate + having one out left to get a hit were much higher than having a guy on third, with one out. That play at the plate had three things go very right for the Indians when the decision was already made to send him. Great bounce of the wall, great relay in, and great throw to the plate.
That is the way it goes. I was there and everyone thought we were winning the game when that ball left the bat and then we watched the Indians make a perfect play.
Agreed. Diaz is waving Adrianza in before Naquin even gets the ball (base runners are taught to pick up the base coach when they are a little past half way to the base--roughly 35 feet). At that point the ball wasn't even in Naquin's hands. It probably seemed like he should score easily. I know off the bat I figured he'd be scoring easily.
Statcast had the COMBINED relay between Naquin first touching the ball and turning to throw, and Lindor catching and releasing the ball, at 1.67 seconds. That is extremely fast (this doesn't include the flight time of the ball).
Naquin's throw was measured at 91.9mph and exchange of 1.07 seconds (aided by the barehand fielding rather than gloving it). Lindor caught, pivoted, and threw in 0.60 seconds (which is ridiculously fast) and fired a 90.6mph throw to the plate. Both throws were perfectly located too, and both traveled between 160-170 feet. Give or take about .05 seconds, from the time Naquin touched the ball until the time the catcher caught it, 4.15 seconds elapsed.
That's a really really really good relay.
Is there anything (you’ll actually acknowledge) the Twins coaches ever screw up on this year....since Molly was fired?
You basically shill for them like Sid did (before he turned completely senile)
When Kepler homered next inning after CJ was gunned down by Puig (badly) you acted like Keplers homer was pre-ordained
...then rationalized that if Kepler bats with bases loaded and 1 out bottom 9th on Sunday, he most likely grounds the ball straight into the glove of a pulled in infielder for a force out at home
Me saying that if Kepler bats in that same inning (after the Cron play) that they would bring in a new pitcher to pitch to him is acting like his HR was pre-ordained? That was literally my only comment regarding the play.
Saying I understand why they sent Adrianza isn't the same as saying I agree with sending him. But some people on here seem to think that they were waving Adrianza around 3B while the catcher already had he ball.
I've also questioned using Rogers on back-to-back days.
The Cron send was brutal. Especially on Puig. Puig has a cannon. I also questioned (particularly on Twitter, since some people in here have done their best to make this thread boring to read and/or overly ridiculously negative), using Adrianza as a PR - something I criticized the previous staff for too.
As for Kepler yesterday, my comment was that if they hold Adrianza they have Schoop up, likely to be intentionally walked to load the bases to set up a lefty-lefty matchup with Kepler where all he'd need is to get the ball to the OF. Some people were acting like all he'd have to do was touch the ball for the game to be over. I was just simply stating that wasn't the case. Sorry if I offended your delicate sensibilities.