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Post by frozen4champs » Tue Apr 27 3:20 pm

I don't think we need a separate NCAA "off season" thread, so just talk about all things NCAA hockey for the upcoming season here.

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Re: NCAA Hockey 2021-2022 Season

Post by YoungEagle » Wed Apr 28 10:54 am

UConn is getting a new hockey rink

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Re: NCAA Hockey 2021-2022 Season

Post by JWG » Wed Apr 28 11:22 am

We haven't heard anything out of the "hockey is imminent" state of Illinois for quite awhile...
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Re: NCAA Hockey 2021-2022 Season

Post by frozen4champs » Wed Apr 28 11:46 am

YoungEagle wrote:
Wed Apr 28 10:54 am
UConn is getting a new hockey rink

If you get a chance, look for some of the reaction to this on twitter. The school is getting hammered for how much this is going to cost and the lack of seats that it is going to have. People are not happy. They average over 4k per game now, and are building an arena that will hold less than that :conf2:


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Re: NCAA Hockey 2021-2022 Season

Post by Bertogliat » Wed Apr 28 8:57 pm

Am I reading it correctly they are paying $4.6M for design?

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Re: NCAA Hockey 2021-2022 Season

Post by frozen4champs » Wed Apr 28 9:29 pm

Bertogliat wrote:
Wed Apr 28 8:57 pm
Am I reading it correctly they are paying $4.6M for design?
And 7 million for the parking lot for 360 cars...

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Re: NCAA Hockey 2021-2022 Season

Post by CollegeHockeyAddict » Wed Apr 28 9:54 pm

Bertogliat wrote:
Wed Apr 28 8:57 pm
Am I reading it correctly they are paying $4.6M for design?
It pays to be an engineer. :wink: (says an engineer)

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Re: NCAA Hockey 2021-2022 Season

Post by fightclub30 » Wed Apr 28 9:57 pm

Bertogliat wrote:
Wed Apr 28 8:57 pm
Am I reading it correctly they are paying $4.6M for design?
If the Arena will cost $70,000,000, then a $4,600,000 Design fee isn't out of line.

If you use a percentage of construction cost based scale for a project this size and complexity...

3% for Architect
1.5% for Structural
1% for Mechanical, Electrical, Plumbing
0.5% for Civil & Landscape
Total of 6% = $4,200,000 So some might be a touch higher, or other consultants (such as lighting or acoustic...)

It does still seem high though. I will give you that. However Steel is roughly double right now compared to what it was in 2019. With all that curtain wall, there is a LOT of steel in that building which is likely skewing the price.

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Re: NCAA Hockey 2021-2022 Season

Post by Bertogliat » Wed Apr 28 10:39 pm

fightclub30 wrote:
Wed Apr 28 9:57 pm
Bertogliat wrote:
Wed Apr 28 8:57 pm
Am I reading it correctly they are paying $4.6M for design?
If the Arena will cost $70,000,000, then a $4,600,000 Design fee isn't out of line.

If you use a percentage of construction cost based scale for a project this size and complexity...

3% for Architect
1.5% for Structural
1% for Mechanical, Electrical, Plumbing
0.5% for Civil & Landscape
Total of 6% = $4,200,000 So some might be a touch higher, or other consultants (such as lighting or acoustic...)

It does still seem high though. I will give you that. However Steel is roughly double right now compared to what it was in 2019. With all that curtain wall, there is a LOT of steel in that building which is likely skewing the price.
This is not much bigger than some high school rinks in MN so they’re not designing a giant stadium I don’t think the designers need to be paid more just because the cost of steel went up. That’s just robbery.

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Re: NCAA Hockey 2021-2022 Season

Post by Buzzkill Bonin » Wed Apr 28 10:43 pm

Track the decision makers and I bet someone at the school knows someone with the companies and they're trying to pull a fast one.

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Re: NCAA Hockey 2021-2022 Season

Post by fightclub30 » Wed Apr 28 11:19 pm

Bertogliat wrote:
Wed Apr 28 10:39 pm
fightclub30 wrote:
Wed Apr 28 9:57 pm
Bertogliat wrote:
Wed Apr 28 8:57 pm
Am I reading it correctly they are paying $4.6M for design?
If the Arena will cost $70,000,000, then a $4,600,000 Design fee isn't out of line.

If you use a percentage of construction cost based scale for a project this size and complexity...

3% for Architect
1.5% for Structural
1% for Mechanical, Electrical, Plumbing
0.5% for Civil & Landscape
Total of 6% = $4,200,000 So some might be a touch higher, or other consultants (such as lighting or acoustic...)

It does still seem high though. I will give you that. However Steel is roughly double right now compared to what it was in 2019. With all that curtain wall, there is a LOT of steel in that building which is likely skewing the price.
This is not much bigger than some high school rinks in MN so they’re not designing a giant stadium I don’t think the designers need to be paid more just because the cost of steel went up. That’s just robbery.
High School rinks in MN aren't $70,000,000... I will ask someone tomorrow who worked on CC's rink what the design fees were. I can probably get a good ballpark. High school rinks don't have large video boards, huge curtain wall sections, a 2nd level of seating/concessions, etc. I think a HS Arena is a bad comparison. It'd be interesting to hear what the design fees for TRIA were. There are nice high school arenas, but not where near the level of design and detailing a facility like this would have. (CC's arena was in 2019, 3,400 seats and cost $50,000,000 to build - St. Olaf's new arena seats 804 and cost $8,000,000... Just completely different scales and costs)

Fees are high and construction costs are high. Without a doubt. but depending how many "value engineering" sessions, renderings, video walk-throughs, etc. it might be real. Its a catch-22. You need documents progressed pretty far to get good pricing information. If pricing comes in too high, then you need to pay your architect to re-do everything. It has been revised at least once. If someone is going this level of detail and rendering for presentations multiple times, there is some time involved.

The $7,000,000 for a 360 stall surface parking lot is staggering, something is wrong. $475,000 Design Fee for a parking lot? something is wrong here at multiple levels.

EDIT: For example, we had several projects very close to construction go on the shelf at the onset of COVID. They have come back alive, and as costs and market conditions have changed, clients are wanting to re-start and re-configure their projects. They are upset we want additional fee to do this work.
We already completed your earlier project... But we didn't build that... Yes, but we still did the work. Maybe this was nearly done, and then COVID hit and they decided to redesign and scale back the entire thing? Lots we don't know. But, yes, on the surface something is wrong.

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Re: NCAA Hockey 2021-2022 Season

Post by Bertogliat » Thu Apr 29 6:50 am

fightclub30 wrote:
Wed Apr 28 11:19 pm
Bertogliat wrote:
Wed Apr 28 10:39 pm
fightclub30 wrote:
Wed Apr 28 9:57 pm
Bertogliat wrote:
Wed Apr 28 8:57 pm
Am I reading it correctly they are paying $4.6M for design?
If the Arena will cost $70,000,000, then a $4,600,000 Design fee isn't out of line.

If you use a percentage of construction cost based scale for a project this size and complexity...

3% for Architect
1.5% for Structural
1% for Mechanical, Electrical, Plumbing
0.5% for Civil & Landscape
Total of 6% = $4,200,000 So some might be a touch higher, or other consultants (such as lighting or acoustic...)

It does still seem high though. I will give you that. However Steel is roughly double right now compared to what it was in 2019. With all that curtain wall, there is a LOT of steel in that building which is likely skewing the price.
This is not much bigger than some high school rinks in MN so they’re not designing a giant stadium I don’t think the designers need to be paid more just because the cost of steel went up. That’s just robbery.
High School rinks in MN aren't $70,000,000... I will ask someone tomorrow who worked on CC's rink what the design fees were. I can probably get a good ballpark. High school rinks don't have large video boards, huge curtain wall sections, a 2nd level of seating/concessions, etc. I think a HS Arena is a bad comparison. It'd be interesting to hear what the design fees for TRIA were. There are nice high school arenas, but not where near the level of design and detailing a facility like this would have. (CC's arena was in 2019, 3,400 seats and cost $50,000,000 to build - St. Olaf's new arena seats 804 and cost $8,000,000... Just completely different scales and costs)

Fees are high and construction costs are high. Without a doubt. but depending how many "value engineering" sessions, renderings, video walk-throughs, etc. it might be real. Its a catch-22. You need documents progressed pretty far to get good pricing information. If pricing comes in too high, then you need to pay your architect to re-do everything. It has been revised at least once. If someone is going this level of detail and rendering for presentations multiple times, there is some time involved.

The $7,000,000 for a 360 stall surface parking lot is staggering, something is wrong. $475,000 Design Fee for a parking lot? something is wrong here at multiple levels.

EDIT: For example, we had several projects very close to construction go on the shelf at the onset of COVID. They have come back alive, and as costs and market conditions have changed, clients are wanting to re-start and re-configure their projects. They are upset we want additional fee to do this work.
We already completed your earlier project... But we didn't build that... Yes, but we still did the work. Maybe this was nearly done, and then COVID hit and they decided to redesign and scale back the entire thing? Lots we don't know. But, yes, on the surface something is wrong.
I was comparing it to a high school rink only because the design of a similar size building shouldn’t have to utilize new engineering concept like you may see with an NHL or NFL sized buildings.

I understand it’ll still be much more design and expense, but $4M is a lot.

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Re: NCAA Hockey 2021-2022 Season

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Bertogliat wrote:
Thu Apr 29 6:50 am
fightclub30 wrote:
Wed Apr 28 11:19 pm
Bertogliat wrote:
Wed Apr 28 10:39 pm
fightclub30 wrote:
Wed Apr 28 9:57 pm
Bertogliat wrote:
Wed Apr 28 8:57 pm
Am I reading it correctly they are paying $4.6M for design?
If the Arena will cost $70,000,000, then a $4,600,000 Design fee isn't out of line.

If you use a percentage of construction cost based scale for a project this size and complexity...

3% for Architect
1.5% for Structural
1% for Mechanical, Electrical, Plumbing
0.5% for Civil & Landscape
Total of 6% = $4,200,000 So some might be a touch higher, or other consultants (such as lighting or acoustic...)

It does still seem high though. I will give you that. However Steel is roughly double right now compared to what it was in 2019. With all that curtain wall, there is a LOT of steel in that building which is likely skewing the price.
This is not much bigger than some high school rinks in MN so they’re not designing a giant stadium I don’t think the designers need to be paid more just because the cost of steel went up. That’s just robbery.
High School rinks in MN aren't $70,000,000... I will ask someone tomorrow who worked on CC's rink what the design fees were. I can probably get a good ballpark. High school rinks don't have large video boards, huge curtain wall sections, a 2nd level of seating/concessions, etc. I think a HS Arena is a bad comparison. It'd be interesting to hear what the design fees for TRIA were. There are nice high school arenas, but not where near the level of design and detailing a facility like this would have. (CC's arena was in 2019, 3,400 seats and cost $50,000,000 to build - St. Olaf's new arena seats 804 and cost $8,000,000... Just completely different scales and costs)

Fees are high and construction costs are high. Without a doubt. but depending how many "value engineering" sessions, renderings, video walk-throughs, etc. it might be real. Its a catch-22. You need documents progressed pretty far to get good pricing information. If pricing comes in too high, then you need to pay your architect to re-do everything. It has been revised at least once. If someone is going this level of detail and rendering for presentations multiple times, there is some time involved.

The $7,000,000 for a 360 stall surface parking lot is staggering, something is wrong. $475,000 Design Fee for a parking lot? something is wrong here at multiple levels.

EDIT: For example, we had several projects very close to construction go on the shelf at the onset of COVID. They have come back alive, and as costs and market conditions have changed, clients are wanting to re-start and re-configure their projects. They are upset we want additional fee to do this work.
We already completed your earlier project... But we didn't build that... Yes, but we still did the work. Maybe this was nearly done, and then COVID hit and they decided to redesign and scale back the entire thing? Lots we don't know. But, yes, on the surface something is wrong.
I was comparing it to a high school rink only because the design of a similar size building shouldn’t have to utilize new engineering concept like you may see with an NHL or NFL sized buildings.

I understand it’ll still be much more design and expense, but $4M is a lot.
The dumbest part about it (from what I've heard) is they aren't going to play all their home games there. They are going to continue using their current arena for some (most?) of their conference games.

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Post by frozen4champs » Thu Apr 29 10:35 am

From what I read, Hockey East requires teams to play in arenas that hold 4k. I wonder if that plays into them playing in 2 arenas? What a mess.

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Re: NCAA Hockey 2021-2022 Season

Post by Bertogliat » Thu Apr 29 1:59 pm

frozen4champs wrote:
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From what I read, Hockey East requires teams to play in arenas that hold 4k. I wonder if that plays into them playing in 2 arenas? What a mess.
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Post by Laxref » Fri Apr 30 10:56 am

This made me chuckle, commish Lucia must have requested a short commute with a lake view.


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Laxref wrote:
Fri Apr 30 10:56 am
This made me chuckle, commish Lucia must have requested a short commute with a lake view.

The true power move would be for Don to rent them his home office.

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Laxref wrote:
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This made me chuckle, commish Lucia must have requested a short commute with a lake view.

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Jan gets a lot of players returning for 5th year
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Fourth best team in Minnesota will still be a top 10 team
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Post by Laxref » Mon May 10 7:06 pm

Does St Thomas have a roster yet?

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Laxref wrote:
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Does St Thomas have a roster yet?
With all the transfers and fifth years and the Portal does any team have a set roster? I would think the Gophers are as set as anyone.
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frozen4champs wrote:
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so why are to Gophers no longer being included in the Hockey day of MN?

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gopher6 wrote:
Tue May 11 4:22 am
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so why are to Gophers no longer being included in the Hockey day of MN?
No longer?
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Slap Shot wrote:
Tue May 11 4:47 am
gopher6 wrote:
Tue May 11 4:22 am
frozen4champs wrote:
Mon May 10 5:50 pm
so why are to Gophers no longer being included in the Hockey day of MN?
No longer?
Ok Men’s hockey team have not played on Hockey day of MN in the last few years I know the State of Hockey now has 6 division 1 NCAA teams

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Re: NCAA Hockey 2021-2022 Season

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I think you just answered your own question. Lots of teams to chose from. While I want to be selfish and let the Goohers have everything, college hockey is better when all teams get featured and not just 1.
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Re: NCAA Hockey 2021-2022 Season

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MNGophers29 wrote:
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I think you just answered your own question. Lots of teams to chose from. While I want to be selfish and let the Goohers have everything, college hockey is better when all teams get featured and not just 1.
Fan interest would be better if they scheduled the Gophers against any one of the other 5 MN teams. It would be like Dallas and the Lions on Thanksgiving. I know a lot of people would argue that other teams should get their chance on Turkey Day, but personally I like traditions like that.

Any of the other 5 Minnesota teams would be pretty fired up to take on the Gophers on Hockey Day.

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Post by Zwak » Tue May 11 9:03 am

I'm of the belief that Hockey Day In MN is not as big of a deal as FSN/BSN makes it out to be.
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I'm of the belief that Hockey Day In MN is not as big of a deal as FSN/BSN makes it out to be.
I don’t agree. Youth teams all over the state (and some high school teams not on the FSN/BSN broadcast) play outdoor hockey on that day. Blaine HS played in one of the HDM games in 2020 and the whole youth program also played games on that day and they offered 3rd jerseys to the youth teams as well.

There is a lot going on that you don’t hear about on TV.

I attended the first HDM in Baudette and it was a big event. Big deal for a small town.

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Re: NCAA Hockey 2021-2022 Season

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I'm of the belief that Hockey Day In MN is not as big of a deal as FSN/BSN makes it out to be.
I am of the belief that you are correct.
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Re: NCAA Hockey 2021-2022 Season

Post by streakygopher » Tue May 11 9:15 am

Zwak wrote:
Tue May 11 9:03 am
I'm of the belief that Hockey Day In MN is not as big of a deal as FSN/BSN makes it out to be.
I totally agree. The only special interest it holds for me is watching a high school game or two I might otherwise not see. I also like the big roll out the town/city does for Hockey Day, especially when it's a team like Duluth or Stillwater where the backdrop for the game is pretty special.

For any of the other games, like the Wild or Gophers, it's just another televised hockey game.

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Post by gopheritall » Tue May 11 9:53 pm

I look forward to Hockey Day every year. Of course I look forward to Canada's too.

Sure the Gophers and Wild don't see it as special as high schools but that is to be expected.

I would agree that some of what they do could use some refresh. The broadcast is kind of boilerplate at this point. I still mark my calendar though.

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The champs are losing Ben Barr to Maine
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Post by frozen4champs » Fri May 14 12:06 pm

The coaches are proposing to have an off day between the regional semi's and region finals. Motzko and Berry are behind it.

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I don't see much downside except for another night in a hotel for fans who travel, which I don't think is a good enough reason to block the change. (some may see that as an upside!)

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Post by frozen4champs » Fri May 14 2:10 pm

It may also help make sure that all the regional games be shown on TV instead of a couple streamed. Not sure how ESPN thinks about the idea of an extra day of hockey on TV though

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JC65 wrote:
Fri May 14 1:57 pm
I don't see much downside except for another night in a hotel for fans who travel, which I don't think is a good enough reason to block the change. (some may see that as an upside!)
Yeah, just in case you can't see all that Allentown has to offer in two days.

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Re: NCAA Hockey 2021-2022 Season

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Maize wrote:
Fri May 14 2:12 pm
JC65 wrote:
Fri May 14 1:57 pm
I don't see much downside except for another night in a hotel for fans who travel, which I don't think is a good enough reason to block the change. (some may see that as an upside!)
Yeah, just in case you can't see all that Allentown has to offer in two days.
I mean, if you think a couple more hours rest than having fans in the stands, by all mean, go ahead with this. If you want fans to continue to attend (yes, I know attendance is abysmal the way it is), this is a horrible idea.

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Re: NCAA Hockey 2021-2022 Season

Post by Bertogliat » Fri May 14 2:34 pm

Maize wrote:
Fri May 14 2:12 pm
JC65 wrote:
Fri May 14 1:57 pm
I don't see much downside except for another night in a hotel for fans who travel, which I don't think is a good enough reason to block the change. (some may see that as an upside!)
Yeah, just in case you can't see all that Allentown has to offer in two days.
I wouldn’t complain if I had an extra night at the Sands casino.

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Post by Cowgirl » Fri May 14 3:15 pm

So you’re saying I should block a whole week off at work until we know? 😆

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Maize wrote:
Fri May 14 2:12 pm
JC65 wrote:
Fri May 14 1:57 pm
I don't see much downside except for another night in a hotel for fans who travel, which I don't think is a good enough reason to block the change. (some may see that as an upside!)
Yeah, just in case you can't see all that Allentown has to offer in two days.
If you live in Bismark, Allentown probably seems like a bustling city!

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Maize wrote:
Fri May 14 2:12 pm
JC65 wrote:
Fri May 14 1:57 pm
I don't see much downside except for another night in a hotel for fans who travel, which I don't think is a good enough reason to block the change. (some may see that as an upside!)
Yeah, just in case you can't see all that Allentown has to offer in two days.
Cause we're living here in Allentown...
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Post by thinkbui » Fri May 14 11:25 pm

frozen4champs wrote:
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It may also help make sure that all the regional games be shown on TV instead of a couple streamed. Not sure how ESPN thinks about the idea of an extra day of hockey on TV though
I'm guessing you mean if the regional weekend were a combined 4 days instead of 3 (ex. 2 regionals have semis Friday and finals Sunday while the other regionals have semis Saturday and finals Monday)? I wouldn't be against that, but it begs the question whether it's better to use Monday or Thursday as the 4th day.
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Re: NCAA Hockey 2021-2022 Season

Post by frozen4champs » Tue May 18 1:09 pm

Interesting

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Post by Bertogliat » Tue May 18 1:26 pm

frozen4champs wrote:
Tue May 18 1:09 pm
Interesting
So the CCHA is just the WCHA, but swapped Huntsvile for St Thomas?

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Bertogliat wrote:
Tue May 18 1:26 pm
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Tue May 18 1:09 pm
Interesting
So the CCHA is just the WCHA, but swapped Huntsvile for St Thomas?
And booted the Alaskas.

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Post by Steve MN » Tue May 18 2:03 pm

Not unexpected. MTU is the trustee for the MacNaughton cup, so, whatever conference they're in uses that for their regular season championship. Even the old CCHA had that as their regular season trophy for 3 years when BGSU won it 82/83/84 before MTU moved back to the WCHA.

As to the CCHA being the previous WCHA + St Thomas - UAH/Alaskas , yes, that's exactly it. The teams didn't want to have to deal with all the travel expenses, and it was easier to leave the WCHA and form a new conference than to try to kick out the 3 teams they didn't want around. I don't even know if it would have been possible to kick the 3 teams out (no clue how the WCHA bylaws worked for that kind of thing)
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Post by frozen4champs » Tue May 18 3:14 pm

I assume the post season Jeff Sauer trophy for the tournament champion will be renamed for someone with history in the old CCHA.

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Post by Bertogliat » Tue May 18 7:27 pm

frozen4champs wrote:
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I assume the post season Jeff Sauer trophy for the tournament champion will be renamed for someone with history in the old CCHA.
Hmmm....nope. Don’t care.

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Post by thinkbui » Tue May 18 10:15 pm

Yeah, the Cup has a long history that even predates the WCHA, so it's going to follow Tech around. IIRC any new conference would still have to decide whether to accept the trophy, but unless there's no room for the trophy (which isn't the case here), I don't think anyone is going to decline it.
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Post by frozen4champs » Wed May 19 2:19 pm

frozen4champs wrote:
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I assume the post season Jeff Sauer trophy for the tournament champion will be renamed for someone with history in the old CCHA.
Here is the answer. Makes sense

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Penn St loses an assistant to UMass

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CCHA Releases 2021-22 Conference Schedule

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Remember when we were concerned that Phillips would leave early? Well he did leave MN early, but is staying an extra year at Penn St.

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Remember when we were concerned that Phillips would leave early? Well he did leave MN early, but is staying an extra year at Penn St.
Maybe they had a sure spot for him, and we didn't?
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D2D wrote:
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Thu May 20 8:45 pm
Remember when we were concerned that Phillips would leave early? Well he did leave MN early, but is staying an extra year at Penn St.
Maybe they had a sure spot for him, and we didn't?
Good for Phillips 👍 It’s not like Gopher blue line isn’t properly stocked for 21-22!

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D2D wrote:
Fri May 21 12:45 pm
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Thu May 20 8:45 pm
Remember when we were concerned that Phillips would leave early? Well he did leave MN early, but is staying an extra year at Penn St.
Maybe they had a sure spot for him, and we didn't?
I don't wish him any ill will at all. It is just funny how things turn out sometimes. He wanted to come in early, Lucia didn't want him early, then was desperate and brought him in mid year. Fans were saying bring him in, since he will only be a 3 year guy at best. The Gophers did the right thing by fully releasing him so he could go to PSU without sitting out a year. Sometimes things just don't work out and both sides are better off moving on. Good for him.

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A cool photo of the McNaughton I found (somewhere up north :mrgreen: ) it was taken in Calumet MI, around 1920.
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Cowgirl wrote:
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A cool photo of the McNaughton I found (somewhere up north :mrgreen: ) it was taken in Calumet MI, around 1920.

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That sure IS a cool photo, Cowgirl. Around 100 years old, amazing!
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Minnesota State, St. Thomas To Battle At Blakeslee Stadium In CCHA Clash
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Rico Blasi Brings Vital Experience To St. Thomas As Tommies Enter DI Fray

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Cowgirl wrote:
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A cool photo of the McNaughton I found (somewhere up north :mrgreen: ) it was taken in Calumet MI, around 1920.

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I'm fairly sure I know where you took that photo. If I'm correct, they also have a photo of a check from the Red Wings to Sergei Federov for $8MM. In the memo, it says "Signing Bonus" (IIRC).
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Robert Morris dropping hockey immediately.

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Son of a....

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The article says they're honoring scholarships, so it's not the worst case scenario, but it's close.

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The Rube wrote:
Tue May 25 9:26 pm
Cowgirl wrote:
Fri May 21 8:02 pm
A cool photo of the McNaughton I found (somewhere up north :mrgreen: ) it was taken in Calumet MI, around 1920.

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I'm fairly sure I know where you took that photo. If I'm correct, they also have a photo of a check from the Red Wings to Sergei Federov for $8MM. In the memo, it says "Signing Bonus" (IIRC).
I bought it at the Michigan made store.

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Post by gopher6 » Wed May 26 3:06 pm

Another College dropping its hockey programs
https://www.uscho.com/2021/05/26/due-to ... mediately/

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Post by frozen4champs » Wed May 26 3:11 pm

Has anyone heard that Robert Morris is dropping hockey? :wink: :D

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Has anyone heard that Robert Morris is dropping hockey? :wink: :D
Aren't they the cigarette company? :wink: :lol:
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Post by thinkbui » Wed May 26 7:56 pm

Well, that just made the transfers this offseason that much more interesting.
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