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Post by frozen4champs » Fri Jan 22 7:40 pm

Michigan sweeps Notre Dame
Wisconsin and Penn St split series

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Post by maddie » Fri Jan 22 7:41 pm

Penn State beats WI 5-4 to split series

Mich plays another good game to sweep Irish, winning 3-1.....young guys are growing up fast

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Post by gopherfun83 » Sat Jan 23 11:04 am

Any guess's who will be head coach for the men's Tommies hockey? I would have guessed it could have been a really good gig for Don Lucia had he not accepted the job for CCHA commissioner.

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Post by Zwak » Sat Jan 23 11:09 am

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Any guess's who will be head coach for the men's Tommies hockey? I would have guessed it could have been a really good gig for Don Lucia had he not accepted the job for CCHA commissioner.
I thought I read somewhere that Guentzel’s name might be in the mix.
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Zwak wrote:
Sat Jan 23 11:09 am
gopherfun83 wrote:
Sat Jan 23 11:04 am
Any guess's who will be head coach for the men's Tommies hockey? I would have guessed it could have been a really good gig for Don Lucia had he not accepted the job for CCHA commissioner.
I thought I read somewhere that Guentzel’s name might be in the mix.
Guentzel would be a really good choice.

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Post by Butters Stotch » Sat Jan 23 12:45 pm

Article on the St. Thomas move to D1 including potential coaching candidates.

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/ ... s-Move.php

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Post by frozen4champs » Sat Jan 23 3:21 pm

Watching tOSU v Michigan St and they said tOSU have not had a full practice together as a team at all this season because of covid. :shock:

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Post by maddie » Sat Jan 23 3:42 pm

also watching this game and wondering why am i watching this game........

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Post by thinkbui » Sat Jan 23 3:53 pm

Butters Stotch wrote:
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Article on the St. Thomas move to D1 including potential coaching candidates.

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/ ... s-Move.php
Given how close they are, I wouldn't be surprised if they rented out Ridder or maybe even Mariucci for home games next season until they find their new permanent home. They probably are looking at other options, but 2 proven D1 venues just a few miles away would be on the table if scheduling could work.
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Post by Cowgirl » Sat Jan 23 4:14 pm

maddie wrote:
Sat Jan 23 3:42 pm
also watching this game and wondering why am i watching this game........

It’s never wrong to watch college hockey!

Hell, I was so bored one night I had the f’n hawks at Denver game on. That might have been taking it a little too far though....

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Cowgirl wrote:
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It’s never wrong to watch college hockey!

Hell, I was so bored one night I had the f’n hawks at Denver game on. That might have been taking it a little too far though....
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Post by thinkbui » Sat Jan 23 6:48 pm

I decided to turn on the Miami at SCSU game on Fox 9+ after watching the 6PM news. Apparently the broadcast crew is running into satellite connectivity issues in this weather as I was only able to glean two things from the choppy video:

1. SCSU is leading 2-0
2. Either Kwik Trip is a sponsor or the WCHA and NCHC have merged to form a new conference under that name
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Post by gopherfun83 » Sat Jan 23 6:51 pm

Other than Gophers hockey. Normally I fill spare time watching high school hockey to watch Gopher recruits. And there are always great games going on around town. This year the fans are limited, so I have spent more time watching college hockey. I also watched as much of the world juniors as I could.

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Post by Snowcool08 » Sat Jan 23 9:51 pm

Looks like Michigan is getting hit hard with Covid.


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Post by thinkbui » Sat Jan 23 10:21 pm

All sports? Ouch... Hopefully this is just precautionary.
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Post by Maize » Sat Jan 23 10:22 pm

It's the UK variant which is why they're being more cautious.

EDIT: No positive tests among the hockey team, apparently.

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Post by thinkbui » Sun Jan 24 12:37 am

At least you guys were already off next weekend (or was that already postponed tonight?), so just the midweek series against PSU needs to be rescheduled.
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Snowcool08 wrote:
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Looks like Michigan is getting hit hard with Covid.

Michigan's next game will likely be against MSU in 16 days.......they don't have any weekends off after that......they could squeeze the PSU games mid-week if B1G allows

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Post by Cowgirl » Sun Jan 24 10:43 am

I thought the second weekend in March was open for all big ten teams to use as a makeup weekend in the event something like this occurred.

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Post by thinkbui » Sun Jan 24 4:53 pm

According to CHN that's right. Except Michigan already has a game at MSU schedule for that Wednesday, so they might have to shuffle things around to fit in a home series against PSU.
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Post by Bale » Sun Jan 24 10:42 pm

Ugh...sounds like msu is going to have another series postponed this weekend. Huntsville team has covid. Msu is looking for another potential opponent.

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Post by gopher6 » Mon Jan 25 8:31 am

So Minnesota State Mavericks goalie has had 20 shutouts in last 2 plus seasons and has not been drafted in the NHL
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/repor ... a-State/35

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Post by J22 » Mon Jan 25 9:41 am

gopher6 wrote:
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So Minnesota State Mavericks goalie has had 20 shutouts in last 2 plus seasons and has not been drafted in the NHL
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/repor ... a-State/35
He aged out of the draft before ever playing for Mankato

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gopher6 wrote:
Mon Jan 25 8:31 am
So Minnesota State Mavericks goalie has had 20 shutouts in last 2 plus seasons and has not been drafted in the NHL
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/repor ... a-State/35
His accomplishments are always downplayed because he doesn't face a ton of shots. Last year swayman beat him out for the Richter even though the only statistical category he was better in was the number of shots faced. As I posted on Twitter at the time .."McKay had more wins, a higher save pct, lower gaa, nearly a record number of shutouts against a sos that was twice as difficult, but he's penalized because his team is better and didn't give up shots."

The same thing is going to happen this year with Spencer Knight. Add in this year that McKay has a legit shot at breaking the career shutouts record, but I am positive I am going to be making the same sort of argument this year.

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Post by gopher6 » Mon Jan 25 11:29 am

J22 wrote:
Mon Jan 25 9:41 am
gopher6 wrote:
Mon Jan 25 8:31 am
So Minnesota State Mavericks goalie has had 20 shutouts in last 2 plus seasons and has not been drafted in the NHL
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/repor ... a-State/35
He aged out of the draft before ever playing for Mankato
So he will be free agent after college?

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gopher6 wrote:
Mon Jan 25 11:29 am
J22 wrote:
Mon Jan 25 9:41 am
gopher6 wrote:
Mon Jan 25 8:31 am
So Minnesota State Mavericks goalie has had 20 shutouts in last 2 plus seasons and has not been drafted in the NHL
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/repor ... a-State/35
He aged out of the draft before ever playing for Mankato
So he will be free agent after college?
He's a free agent right now. Could sign a contract today if he wanted to.

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Post by Bertogliat » Mon Jan 25 12:15 pm

J22 wrote:
Mon Jan 25 12:05 pm
gopher6 wrote:
Mon Jan 25 11:29 am
J22 wrote:
Mon Jan 25 9:41 am
gopher6 wrote:
Mon Jan 25 8:31 am
So Minnesota State Mavericks goalie has had 20 shutouts in last 2 plus seasons and has not been drafted in the NHL
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/repor ... a-State/35
He aged out of the draft before ever playing for Mankato
So he will be free agent after college?
He's a free agent right now. Could sign a contract today if he wanted to.
Interestingly PA was talking about him today with Pat Micheletti at the end of his show today. Pat said the one thing that may hold him back is size. I haven't heard of the kid before today so I don't know how big he is.

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He's 5'11"

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Post by JWG » Mon Jan 25 12:56 pm

With no fans, the locations really don't matter and the venue really gets nothing out of it. I'd condense to 2 super regionals for sure. Create a bubble. With games on offsetting days (Fri / Sat / Sun) it seems very doable.
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JWG wrote:
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With no fans, the locations really don't matter and the venue really gets nothing out of it. I'd condense to 2 super regionals for sure. Create a bubble. With games on offsetting days (Fri / Sat / Sun) it seems very doable.
I think that would be a good plan for the NCAA regionals anyway, with the attendance issues recently. This year especially, it just makes too much sense. Friday's winners play the early game Sunday, Saturday's the late Sunday game.
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Post by Rau4SkiUMah » Mon Jan 25 1:34 pm

Steve MN wrote:
Mon Jan 25 1:13 pm
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Mon Jan 25 12:56 pm
With no fans, the locations really don't matter and the venue really gets nothing out of it. I'd condense to 2 super regionals for sure. Create a bubble. With games on offsetting days (Fri / Sat / Sun) it seems very doable.
I think that would be a good plan for the NCAA regionals anyway, with the attendance issues recently. This year especially, it just makes too much sense. Friday's winners play the early game Sunday, Saturday's the late Sunday game.
Didn't they used to have the first round at on campus sights? What was the reasoning for leaving that system? Just too much home ice advantage for the home team?

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Post by frozen4champs » Mon Jan 25 1:51 pm

maddie wrote:
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Looks like Michigan is getting hit hard with Covid.

Michigan's next game will likely be against MSU in 16 days.......they don't have any weekends off after that......they could squeeze the PSU games mid-week if B1G allows

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Rau4SkiUMah wrote:
Mon Jan 25 1:34 pm
Steve MN wrote:
Mon Jan 25 1:13 pm
JWG wrote:
Mon Jan 25 12:56 pm
With no fans, the locations really don't matter and the venue really gets nothing out of it. I'd condense to 2 super regionals for sure. Create a bubble. With games on offsetting days (Fri / Sat / Sun) it seems very doable.
I think that would be a good plan for the NCAA regionals anyway, with the attendance issues recently. This year especially, it just makes too much sense. Friday's winners play the early game Sunday, Saturday's the late Sunday game.
Didn't they used to have the first round at on campus sights? What was the reasoning for leaving that system? Just too much home ice advantage for the home team?
If you go back to the 80s, the first round was all on campus at the higher seed. Then they moved to a "regional" format around the point (if not at) they switched from 8 to 12 teams, and home rinks were common, especially in the west, and Eastern coaches (*cough* Mike Shafer *cough*) whined so much about having to play at someone else's rink that the rules got changed to require neutral sites. The problem being, there simply aren't that many mid-sized arenas west of Ohio or so that would work properly, so we're stuck with what we've got now.
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Did anyone collect those WCHA Decade by Decade DVDs? I've found the 1950s through the 1990s, but I don't know whether there were just those 5 or if there were more. Does anyone know?
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Did anyone collect those WCHA Decade by Decade DVDs? I've found the 1950s through the 1990s, but I don't know whether there were just those 5 or if there were more. Does anyone know?
They were part of the WCHA Final 5 season ticket package. There was an initial one that previewed the series as well.

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As long as ND gets the visitor bench if they're not the Home team for the game, then sure. No spectators anyway.

Having the benches opposite each other REALLY bugs me. WAY too big of an advantage to the home team. As far as I'm concerned, with this setup, the visiting team should get to pick which bench they use. See how long it is before the rinks figure out some way to fix this BS
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Post by Cowgirl » Tue Jan 26 12:17 pm

Please don’t move games to Wednesday...

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Post by frozen4champs » Tue Jan 26 12:20 pm

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As long as ND gets the visitor bench if they're not the Home team for the game, then sure. No spectators anyway.

Having the benches opposite each other REALLY bugs me. WAY too big of an advantage to the home team. As far as I'm concerned, with this setup, the visiting team should get to pick which bench they use. See how long it is before the rinks figure out some way to fix this BS
I always thought it was odd that a fairly new arena had that setup. Did Notre Dame do it on purpose or was it some sort of building issue?

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Tue Jan 26 12:20 pm
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As long as ND gets the visitor bench if they're not the Home team for the game, then sure. No spectators anyway.

Having the benches opposite each other REALLY bugs me. WAY too big of an advantage to the home team. As far as I'm concerned, with this setup, the visiting team should get to pick which bench they use. See how long it is before the rinks figure out some way to fix this BS
I always thought it was odd that a fairly new arena had that setup. Did Notre Dame do it on purpose or was it some sort of building issue?
As far as I know, they did it on purpose, because for some reason, the NCAA hasn't removed it from the list of allowable configurations. They should have removed it from the list a long time ago, with a clause to allow already-existing rinks to keep it.
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Post by GopherPete » Tue Jan 26 1:09 pm

Steve MN wrote:
Tue Jan 26 12:15 pm
As long as ND gets the visitor bench if they're not the Home team for the game, then sure. No spectators anyway.

Having the benches opposite each other REALLY bugs me. WAY too big of an advantage to the home team. As far as I'm concerned, with this setup, the visiting team should get to pick which bench they use. See how long it is before the rinks figure out some way to fix this BS
Serious question, how does this give them an advantage?

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Post by Slap Shot » Tue Jan 26 1:25 pm

GopherPete wrote:
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Tue Jan 26 12:15 pm
As long as ND gets the visitor bench if they're not the Home team for the game, then sure. No spectators anyway.

Having the benches opposite each other REALLY bugs me. WAY too big of an advantage to the home team. As far as I'm concerned, with this setup, the visiting team should get to pick which bench they use. See how long it is before the rinks figure out some way to fix this BS
Serious question, how does this give them an advantage?
Without looking I think it means for periods 1 and 3 their bench is right next to the penalty box vs. the visitor bench being on the opposite side?
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Post by Goldy Guy » Tue Jan 26 1:56 pm

Yeah, from what I see in the pictures of Compton, the benches are not directly across from each other, so both teams still have a short change 1st and 3rd, and a long change 2nd. I don't see an advantage at all. I once lived in Indiana, and a lot of the rinks there have this set up for some reason.
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As long as ND gets the visitor bench if they're not the Home team for the game, then sure. No spectators anyway.

Having the benches opposite each other REALLY bugs me. WAY too big of an advantage to the home team. As far as I'm concerned, with this setup, the visiting team should get to pick which bench they use. See how long it is before the rinks figure out some way to fix this BS
Serious question, how does this give them an advantage?
Without looking I think it means for periods 1 and 3 their bench is right next to the penalty box vs. the visitor bench being on the opposite side?
It’s that way in the second period too! :mrgreen:

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Re: NCAA Hockey 2020-2021 Season

Post by thinkbui » Tue Jan 26 2:04 pm

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Did anyone collect those WCHA Decade by Decade DVDs? I've found the 1950s through the 1990s, but I don't know whether there were just those 5 or if there were more. Does anyone know?
They were part of the WCHA Final 5 season ticket package. There was an initial one that previewed the series as well.
Do you know if those were the only ones? I'd love to find one for the 2000's for obvious reasons, but I have no information on whether or not it exists.
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Post by Composer » Tue Jan 26 2:22 pm

As Slap Shot said, the penalty box is across the ice from the team bench. In the 1980 era, I constantly saw players come out of the box and go across the ice to the bench. I always thought that was a bad idea. It seems now that most often, players come out of the box and get right into the play. Worst case, you have three defensemen on the ice for a short time. I'm not sure it is much of an advantage at this time.

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Re: NCAA Hockey 2020-2021 Season

Post by frozen4champs » Tue Jan 26 2:58 pm

thinkbui wrote:
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Did anyone collect those WCHA Decade by Decade DVDs? I've found the 1950s through the 1990s, but I don't know whether there were just those 5 or if there were more. Does anyone know?
They were part of the WCHA Final 5 season ticket package. There was an initial one that previewed the series as well.
Do you know if those were the only ones? I'd love to find one for the 2000's for obvious reasons, but I have no information on whether or not it exists.
I briefly looked and the last DVD I could find was the 1990's. Doesn't mean there wasn't one, but that is all I could find. I was a Final 5 STH until the end and don't recall when they started giving them away, so it could be possible that the 2000's was given away the 1st year of the new WCHA or it was never given out.

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Re: NCAA Hockey 2020-2021 Season

Post by Viking » Tue Jan 26 3:22 pm

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As Slap Shot said, the penalty box is across the ice from the team bench. In the 1980 era, I constantly saw players come out of the box and go across the ice to the bench. I always thought that was a bad idea. It seems now that most often, players come out of the box and get right into the play. Worst case, you have three defensemen on the ice for a short time. I'm not sure it is much of an advantage at this time.
I think the advantage is that it is much easier for the home team to create an odd man rush in their favor or negate an odd man rush against them at the end of a penalty. A home player coming out of the box has to take two steps to get off the ice while another player comes on the ice from the other end of the bench.

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Re: NCAA Hockey 2020-2021 Season

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Advantage or not, still nonsense.

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Re: NCAA Hockey 2020-2021 Season

Post by Steve MN » Tue Jan 26 5:27 pm

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As Slap Shot said, the penalty box is across the ice from the team bench. In the 1980 era, I constantly saw players come out of the box and go across the ice to the bench. I always thought that was a bad idea. It seems now that most often, players come out of the box and get right into the play. Worst case, you have three defensemen on the ice for a short time. I'm not sure it is much of an advantage at this time.
I think the advantage is that it is much easier for the home team to create an odd man rush in their favor or negate an odd man rush against them at the end of a penalty. A home player coming out of the box has to take two steps to get off the ice while another player comes on the ice from the other end of the bench.

My 2 cents
This is exactly the problem. It's a literal structural advantage to the team that has the bench adjoining the penalty box. I get that ND will likely keep their own locker room for the tournament, and that's fine, but they'd better not get that bench when they're the "visiting" team.
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Re: NCAA Hockey 2020-2021 Season

Post by Cowgirl » Tue Jan 26 5:57 pm

Steve MN wrote:
Tue Jan 26 5:27 pm
Viking wrote:
Tue Jan 26 3:22 pm
Composer wrote:
Tue Jan 26 2:22 pm
As Slap Shot said, the penalty box is across the ice from the team bench. In the 1980 era, I constantly saw players come out of the box and go across the ice to the bench. I always thought that was a bad idea. It seems now that most often, players come out of the box and get right into the play. Worst case, you have three defensemen on the ice for a short time. I'm not sure it is much of an advantage at this time.
I think the advantage is that it is much easier for the home team to create an odd man rush in their favor or negate an odd man rush against them at the end of a penalty. A home player coming out of the box has to take two steps to get off the ice while another player comes on the ice from the other end of the bench.

My 2 cents
This is exactly the problem. It's a literal structural advantage to the team that has the bench adjoining the penalty box. I get that ND will likely keep their own locker room for the tournament, and that's fine, but they'd better not get that bench when they're the "visiting" team.
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Re: NCAA Hockey 2020-2021 Season

Post by gopherfun83 » Tue Jan 26 6:25 pm

ND can have whatever bench they want. As long as the Gophers keep scoring 10 goals a game it won't really matter :mrgreen:

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Post by Snowcool08 » Tue Jan 26 7:23 pm

Besides the benches, does anyone have a problem with ND hosting the tourney? I’ve seen some complaints on the socials. It was a big old “meh” from me. Just glad they’re actually planning a tourney.

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Re: NCAA Hockey 2020-2021 Season

Post by JWG » Tue Jan 26 7:59 pm

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Besides the benches, does anyone have a problem with ND hosting the tourney? I’ve seen some complaints on the socials. It was a big old “meh” from me. Just glad they’re actually planning a tourney.
Nope, I think it makes sense. ND is the most central school that offered to host. They have good infrastructure (two rinks, multiple locker rooms, hotels right across the street). It really make sense and with no fans don't see that big of an advantage.
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Post by Cowgirl » Tue Jan 26 8:04 pm

JWG wrote:
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Besides the benches, does anyone have a problem with ND hosting the tourney? I’ve seen some complaints on the socials. It was a big old “meh” from me. Just glad they’re actually planning a tourney.
Nope, I think it makes sense. ND is the most central school that offered to hose. They have good infrastructure (two rinks, multiple locker rooms, hotels right across the street). It really make sense and with no fans don't see that big of an advantage.
My only problem is not being able to attend, South Bend is a fantastic road trip. :D Home ice advantage is a huge advantage however imho, so it would have been ideal to have a neutral site but I understand it’s a weird year and everything is topsy turrvy.

Do you think $ had anything to do with hosting?

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Re: NCAA Hockey 2020-2021 Season

Post by frozen4champs » Tue Jan 26 8:16 pm

Cowgirl wrote:
Tue Jan 26 8:04 pm
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Tue Jan 26 7:59 pm
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Tue Jan 26 7:23 pm
Besides the benches, does anyone have a problem with ND hosting the tourney? I’ve seen some complaints on the socials. It was a big old “meh” from me. Just glad they’re actually planning a tourney.
Nope, I think it makes sense. ND is the most central school that offered to hose. They have good infrastructure (two rinks, multiple locker rooms, hotels right across the street). It really make sense and with no fans don't see that big of an advantage.
My only problem is not being able to attend, South Bend is a fantastic road trip. :D Home ice advantage is a huge advantage however imho, so it would have been ideal to have a neutral site but I understand it’s a weird year and everything is topsy turrvy.

Do you think $ had anything to do with hosting?
Couple of items about the decision--
According to reports, Minnesota and Penn State were also interested in hosting, but Notre Dame was selected because of its centralized location and easier access to amenities like practice rinks and hotels

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Re: NCAA Hockey 2020-2021 Season

Post by Cowgirl » Tue Jan 26 8:24 pm

frozen4champs wrote:
Tue Jan 26 8:16 pm
Cowgirl wrote:
Tue Jan 26 8:04 pm
JWG wrote:
Tue Jan 26 7:59 pm
Snowcool08 wrote:
Tue Jan 26 7:23 pm
Besides the benches, does anyone have a problem with ND hosting the tourney? I’ve seen some complaints on the socials. It was a big old “meh” from me. Just glad they’re actually planning a tourney.
Nope, I think it makes sense. ND is the most central school that offered to hose. They have good infrastructure (two rinks, multiple locker rooms, hotels right across the street). It really make sense and with no fans don't see that big of an advantage.
My only problem is not being able to attend, South Bend is a fantastic road trip. :D Home ice advantage is a huge advantage however imho, so it would have been ideal to have a neutral site but I understand it’s a weird year and everything is topsy turrvy.

Do you think $ had anything to do with hosting?
Couple of items about the decision--
According to reports, Minnesota and Penn State were also interested in hosting, but Notre Dame was selected because of its centralized location and easier access to amenities like practice rinks and hotels
I saw that, but I still wonder if $ plays a factor in these decisions.

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Post by frozen4champs » Tue Jan 26 8:33 pm

@Cowgirl do you mean that Notre Dame paid more money to host it or the B1G tried to save the schools money by having it centrally located? If the B1G picks up the tab for travel etc for the conference tourney, I could see why they picked Notre Dame to save money. Not sure there is too much money to be made by a host school this year without fans, but hey, it is the NC$$, so anything is possible.

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@Cowgirl do you mean that Notre Dame paid more money to host it or the B1G tried to save the schools money by having it centrally located? If the B1G picks up the tab for travel etc for the conference tourney, I could see why they picked Notre Dame to save money. Not sure there is too much money to be made by a host school this year without fans, but hey, it is the NC$$, so anything is possible.
I’m curious if ND used their deep pockets to financially persuade the decision of who would be host. I don’t know if that’s a thing or if that’s allowed, and I understand the central location thing. But like I said, home ice is a huge advantage so I can understand a school using any means available to achieve that advantage.

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Re: NCAA Hockey 2020-2021 Season

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@Cowgirl do you mean that Notre Dame paid more money to host it or the B1G tried to save the schools money by having it centrally located? If the B1G picks up the tab for travel etc for the conference tourney, I could see why they picked Notre Dame to save money. Not sure there is too much money to be made by a host school this year without fans, but hey, it is the NC$$, so anything is possible.
I’m curious if ND used their deep pockets to financially persuade the decision of who would be host. I don’t know if that’s a thing or if that’s allowed, and I understand the central location thing. But like I said, home ice is a huge advantage so I can understand a school using any means available to achieve that advantage.
Why is home ice a huge advantage this year? There will be no fans. It’s just an empty arena. The team will probably stay in a hotel like the other teams so it’s not like they’re sleeping in their own beds. There’s not much of an advantage this year.

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Re: NCAA Hockey 2020-2021 Season

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Snowcool08 wrote:
Tue Jan 26 9:47 pm
Cowgirl wrote:
Tue Jan 26 9:18 pm
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Tue Jan 26 8:33 pm
@Cowgirl do you mean that Notre Dame paid more money to host it or the B1G tried to save the schools money by having it centrally located? If the B1G picks up the tab for travel etc for the conference tourney, I could see why they picked Notre Dame to save money. Not sure there is too much money to be made by a host school this year without fans, but hey, it is the NC$$, so anything is possible.
I’m curious if ND used their deep pockets to financially persuade the decision of who would be host. I don’t know if that’s a thing or if that’s allowed, and I understand the central location thing. But like I said, home ice is a huge advantage so I can understand a school using any means available to achieve that advantage.
Why is home ice a huge advantage this year? There will be no fans. It’s just an empty arena. The team will probably stay in a hotel like the other teams so it’s not like they’re sleeping in their own beds. There’s not much of an advantage this year.
Fans or not, home ice is always an advantage in my opinion - it’s familiar, and who doesn’t typically play best at home? Why would Notre Dame stay in a hotel when they can have the advantage of sleeping in their own beds? Unless that’s made a requirement by the league, which I doubt. We also don’t know yet how teams will be selected for the NCAA tournament; I can only imagine winning your conference tourney will be a sure bet....after that who knows.

Like I said, it’s my opinion that home ice is an advantage, but I guess without a poll from the players that’s hard to prove. A one and done tourney leaves little room to have a bad game as opposed to a series, so any advantage is a plus. Again, my 2 cents.

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Re: NCAA Hockey 2020-2021 Season

Post by MNGophers29 » Wed Jan 27 12:54 am

If the side of the rink the bench is on is going to prevent the Gophers from winning than they don’t deserve to win anyway.

Boy, if $h!t isn’t played in a MN rink, is it really fair?!? :roll: :roll:
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Post by Slap Shot » Wed Jan 27 1:59 am

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If the side of the rink the bench is on is going to prevent the Gophers from winning than they don’t deserve to win anyway.

Boy, if $h!t isn’t played in a MN rink, is it really fair?!? :roll: :roll:
And there the pendulum has swung in the other direction. Don't exaggerate the commentary which has not been illegitimate anyway.

I don't mind them hosting as someone had to do it, but I call b.s. on this given where Mariucci sits:
easier access to amenities like practice rinks and hotels
But no big deal just get it done.
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Re: NCAA Hockey 2020-2021 Season

Post by thinkbui » Wed Jan 27 4:37 am

I don't think there's a real perfect solution. It might be more fair to rent out some rink with at least 7 team locker rooms and surrounded by hotels in suburban Chicagoland since no team would know the rink intimately, but that would mean using facilities that need to be prepped and cleaned when there's one already ready to go in South Bend.

Would the teams be busing? If so, South Bend would definitely be the most central. If teams were flying, Ann Arbor and East Lansing could be in the mix, but by bus, travel from here and Madison to those sites would be significantly farther with Lake Michigan in the way.

I certainly agree that the benches are an issue though. Not sure what the locker room situation is like, but assuming access to each bench being equal, higher seed should get to choose which bench they use. Also either the top overall seed gets the home locker room or nobody does.
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Wed Jan 27 1:59 am
MNGophers29 wrote:
Wed Jan 27 12:54 am
If the side of the rink the bench is on is going to prevent the Gophers from winning than they don’t deserve to win anyway.

Boy, if $h!t isn’t played in a MN rink, is it really fair?!? :roll: :roll:
And there the pendulum has swung in the other direction. Don't exaggerate the commentary which has not been illegitimate anyway.

I don't mind them hosting as someone had to do it, but I call b.s. on this given where Mariucci sits:
easier access to amenities like practice rinks and hotels
But no big deal just get it done.
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Re: NCAA Hockey 2020-2021 Season

Post by Steve MN » Wed Jan 27 9:04 am

Given the almost-certain lack of neutral site options for this year, Notre Dame is as good a choice as there likely is. Dedicated hockey facility, and about as centrally located as you can be in the conference.

I agree with Cowgirl that even that there likely is still some home-ice advantage, but without fans, that tends to be fairly minimal, and there's all sorts of things tht I'd greatly prefer be done differently that just aren't practical this year.
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Post by Gopherguy05 » Wed Jan 27 9:12 am

And I do think the bussing thing is a big aspect. The NCAA released plans for how they are going to get all the various teams to Indy for the BB tournament yesterday and they were basically demanding bussing over flying as long as you were within a mileage threshold. This way every single team can in theory bus to South Bend where as if it was in Minneapolis or Happy Valley then obviously several teams would have been flying.

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Re: NCAA Hockey 2020-2021 Season

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Given the almost-certain lack of neutral site options for this year, Notre Dame is as good a choice as there likely is. Dedicated hockey facility, and about as centrally located as you can be in the conference.

I agree with Cowgirl that even that there likely is still some home-ice advantage, but without fans, that tends to be fairly minimal, and there's all sorts of things tht I'd greatly prefer be done differently that just aren't practical this year.
I do know ND is down a couple hotels (the ones across the street from the arena) as they are being used for campus covid cases. Not that there aren’t plenty around, but those were a couple of the nicer ones, and I can vouch that there’s others nearby you do NOT want to set foot in!

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I do know ND is down a couple hotels (the ones across the street from the arena) as they are being used for campus covid cases. Not that there aren’t plenty around, but those were a couple of the nicer ones, and I can vouch that there’s others nearby you do NOT want to set foot in!
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I do know ND is down a couple hotels (the ones across the street from the arena) as they are being used for campus covid cases. Not that there aren’t plenty around, but those were a couple of the nicer ones, and I can vouch that there’s others nearby you do NOT want to set foot in!
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ND campus is nice but many areas of South Bend are not great.

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ND campus is nice but many areas of South Bend are not great.
Can't really disagree there. Always stayed in Mishawaka so far myself.
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Post by frozen4champs » Wed Jan 27 2:36 pm

BU has paused activities again. The hockey team has played only 6 games this year.

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Cowgirl wrote:
Wed Jan 27 10:03 am
I do know ND is down a couple hotels (the ones across the street from the arena) as they are being used for campus covid cases. Not that there aren’t plenty around, but those were a couple of the nicer ones, and I can vouch that there’s others nearby you do NOT want to set foot in!
I hate to ask "why not?" so I won't. :conf2: :wink:
You can use your imagination....😂

This was just moreso cheaper hotel with fun stains on the carpets and funny smelling hallways and such. Serviceable, but I’m too old for staying in cheap hotels regularly. It wasn’t a bad area or anything.

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