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Post by Handyman » Mon Jul 22 5:09 pm

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So Hawkey admits on the record that they basically gouged people so they could afford to hire Aerosmith, but went too far in their gouging, resulting in a sparse VIP section that ticked off the lead singer.

Good luck getting Journey to headline next year.
Either you didnt actually listen to the story or you are just letting your dislike of Hawkey cloud the facts but either way I dont much feel like arguing about it. Hawkey isnt the problem Steven Tyler is.

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Says their #1 fan.

You must be hunce99:

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Post by Beauner » Mon Jul 22 9:58 pm

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Oh man...Hawkey's story about Steven Tyler was pretty lame. Never meet your idols I guess...
I didn't hear it. What happened?
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Post by Beauner » Mon Jul 22 9:59 pm

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Good luck getting Journey to headline next year.
Maybe they'll get a good band instead.🤷‍♂️
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edit: nevermind.
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Post by fightclub30 » Fri Jul 26 2:49 pm

Last night we meet some family at Maynard's in Excelsior. My wife renewed her driver's license, so has a voided license and papers. She tried to order a drink, and they wouldn't accept her papers. She also had her passport still in her purse from going to renew and getting a "Real ID". They wouldn't accept her passport either. My Cousin, who was home on a break and is currently serving on an Air Force base was also denied service with his military ID and didn't have his Driver's License with him (wasn't going to be driving in MN). We were told they are "far too busy in the summer to handle different forms of ID to risk serving someone they shouldn't." I get that restaurants can deny service, especially alcohol service, to anyone for whatever reason they see fit, this just seems like overkill. Is this common? Will my wife be able to get a drink before her new license arrives, or should she not even bother?

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Post by Bertogliat » Fri Jul 26 3:05 pm

fightclub30 wrote:
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Last night we meet some family at Maynard's in Excelsior. My wife renewed her driver's license, so has a voided license and papers. She tried to order a drink, and they wouldn't accept her papers. She also had her passport still in her purse from going to renew and getting a "Real ID". They wouldn't accept her passport either. My Cousin, who was home on a break and is currently serving on an Air Force base was also denied service with his military ID and didn't have his Driver's License with him (wasn't going to be driving in MN). We were told they are "far too busy in the summer to handle different forms of ID to risk serving someone they shouldn't." I get that restaurants can deny service, especially alcohol service, to anyone for whatever reason they see fit, this just seems like overkill. Is this common? Will my wife be able to get a drink before her new license arrives, or should she not even bother?
It’s a potential problem because the restaurant doesn’t know if the license is clipped due to drinking restrictions. Rather than renew a license go in for a “replacement” instead because you “lost” your old one.

Then you can keep your unclipped license until the new one arrives.

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Re: This might be a dumb question, but...

Post by Viking » Fri Jul 26 4:35 pm

fightclub30 wrote:
Fri Jul 26 2:49 pm
Last night we meet some family at Maynard's in Excelsior. My wife renewed her driver's license, so has a voided license and papers. She tried to order a drink, and they wouldn't accept her papers. She also had her passport still in her purse from going to renew and getting a "Real ID". They wouldn't accept her passport either. My Cousin, who was home on a break and is currently serving on an Air Force base was also denied service with his military ID and didn't have his Driver's License with him (wasn't going to be driving in MN). We were told they are "far too busy in the summer to handle different forms of ID to risk serving someone they shouldn't." I get that restaurants can deny service, especially alcohol service, to anyone for whatever reason they see fit, this just seems like overkill. Is this common? Will my wife be able to get a drink before her new license arrives, or should she not even bother?
They definitely should have taken the passport. If the server can't handle different forms of ID, they wouldn't serve anyone from out of state.
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Post by Karlsson » Fri Jul 26 4:42 pm

Never heard of a place denying a passport. Ridiculous. My wife was denied at Target Field because she had a clipped Ontario license and papers for her soon to be MN one, but at least they took her passport.

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Viking wrote:
Fri Jul 26 4:35 pm
fightclub30 wrote:
Fri Jul 26 2:49 pm
Last night we meet some family at Maynard's in Excelsior. My wife renewed her driver's license, so has a voided license and papers. She tried to order a drink, and they wouldn't accept her papers. She also had her passport still in her purse from going to renew and getting a "Real ID". They wouldn't accept her passport either. My Cousin, who was home on a break and is currently serving on an Air Force base was also denied service with his military ID and didn't have his Driver's License with him (wasn't going to be driving in MN). We were told they are "far too busy in the summer to handle different forms of ID to risk serving someone they shouldn't." I get that restaurants can deny service, especially alcohol service, to anyone for whatever reason they see fit, this just seems like overkill. Is this common? Will my wife be able to get a drink before her new license arrives, or should she not even bother?
They definitely should have taken the passport. If the server can't handle different forms of ID, they wouldn't serve anyone from out of state.
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Post by Jane Fonda » Fri Jul 26 5:09 pm

I understand the clipped license, but it is pure stupidity to not accept a passport.

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Post by Steve MN » Fri Jul 26 6:00 pm

I'm with the others here. I can understand not taking the clipped card, but the Passport should always be accepted.

My response on the passport and Military ID would have been "Thanks, we're leaving now" then standing up and walking away, and never returning.
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Post by bearpaw28 » Fri Jul 26 6:01 pm

Exactly, a passport is arguably a BETTER form of ID than a drivers license. Accordingly, rejecting a passport ID to order an alcohol drink is absurd ☝️

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Post by Cowgirl » Fri Jul 26 6:23 pm

I was denied at target field with papers for a new license.

But for my dumb question:
Anyone who has spectrum/charter for internet/cable services - how do you like it? Or how about direct tv? I know in the long run I won’t save money but I’ve been a dish customer for 20 years and I’m sick of their antics and continually rising rates. All they care about is new customers, they don’t give a $h!t about their long term ones.

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Post by Composer » Fri Jul 26 6:59 pm

The reason places require a license is that it has restrictions listed on it. The Carbones in Lakeville has gotten bitten a few times The always check the back of the license for that.

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The reason places require a license is that it has restrictions listed on it. The Carbones in Lakeville has gotten bitten a few times The always check the back of the license for that.
What specific restrictions are they looking for?
I need corrective lenses to drive but don’t see how that would affect the ability to purchase a drink? ;)

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I was denied at target field with papers for a new license.

But for my dumb question:
Anyone who has spectrum/charter for internet/cable services - how do you like it? Or how about direct tv? I know in the long run I won’t save money but I’ve been a dish customer for 20 years and I’m sick of their antics and continually rising rates. All they care about is new customers, they don’t give a $h!t about their long term ones.
We have had Charter for a few decades. While all of these companies want to maximize profits, we have had a number of good experiences with them (someone helped us improve our situation without us asking, while dealing with an unrelated issue) It's not necessarily the cheapest, but we've been satisfied. I'm certain you can find people with the exact opposite opinion, though.

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Post by Bertogliat » Fri Jul 26 7:26 pm

Cowgirl wrote:
Fri Jul 26 7:03 pm
Composer wrote:
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The reason places require a license is that it has restrictions listed on it. The Carbones in Lakeville has gotten bitten a few times The always check the back of the license for that.
What specific restrictions are they looking for?
I need corrective lenses to drive but don’t see how that would affect the ability to purchase a drink? ;)
If you get too many DUIs you can’t get a drivers license unless you swear to never drink. The drivers license has an alcohol restriction and my guess is you can’t serve alcohol to someone with that restriction.


https://aaronhall.com/restricted-driver ... -dwi-laws/

Passports and military ID don’t have this feature. I can’t blame a sever for not wanting to risk getting dinged for serving to people with alternate IDs.

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Post by Composer » Fri Jul 26 7:32 pm

Sorry. Yes, alcohol restrictions.

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Post by Norm » Fri Jul 26 7:40 pm

Cowgirl wrote:
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I was denied at target field with papers for a new license.
Being it takes forever to get a new license in this state, you won't be enjoying a drink at Target Field anytime soon.

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Norm wrote:
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I was denied at target field with papers for a new license.
Being it takes forever to get a new license in this state, you won't be enjoying a drink at Target Field anytime soon.
Haha. This was a few years ago. But I suppose that means it won’t be long before I’m due for a new one....😬

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Post by Slap Shot » Fri Jul 26 8:51 pm

Where are you folks going that it takes so long to replace an ID? Also don't bring in your expiring ID claim it's lost and they will replace and renew.
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I bet they got busted recently, so they are only taking current valid driver's IDs.
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Cowgirl wrote:
Fri Jul 26 6:23 pm
I was denied at target field with papers for a new license.

But for my dumb question:
Anyone who has spectrum/charter for internet/cable services - how do you like it? Or how about direct tv? I know in the long run I won’t save money but I’ve been a dish customer for 20 years and I’m sick of their antics and continually rising rates. All they care about is new customers, they don’t give a $h!t about their long term ones.
Xfinity was awful, awful, awful when I had an apartment. Mediacom is only option where I live now for cable.

DirecTV I had for awhile, they also only cares about new customers.

Price I pay now for dish is fine. I'll give them a week or 2 to get FSN back, if not I'll be gone to a streaming service.

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Post by Handyman » Fri Jul 26 9:32 pm

Speaking as someone who has to take alcohol awareness every year I can tell you that it isnt as absurd as you all think it is to have rules like that especially with dramshop laws in this state being as hardlined as they are. The restrictions are important to know and even though there is no law that says you cant serve someone with restriction you do so at your own peril. While I would personally accept a military ID or Passport if my bosses set a rule saying no I wouldnt even think twice I go along with it.

I get it is a PITA but I am not risking a Gross Misdemeanor for anyone.
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fightclub30 wrote:
Fri Jul 26 9:04 pm
Cowgirl wrote:
Fri Jul 26 6:23 pm
I was denied at target field with papers for a new license.

But for my dumb question:
Anyone who has spectrum/charter for internet/cable services - how do you like it? Or how about direct tv? I know in the long run I won’t save money but I’ve been a dish customer for 20 years and I’m sick of their antics and continually rising rates. All they care about is new customers, they don’t give a $h!t about their long term ones.
Xfinity was awful, awful, awful when I had an apartment. Mediacom is only option where I live now for cable.

DirecTV I had for awhile, they also only cares about new customers.

Price I pay now for dish is fine. I'll give them a week or 2 to get FSN back, if not I'll be gone to a streaming service.
I called and had a chat with Spectrum. I’ll have to do a little more research, but I’ll save significantly over the next three years ($75/mo the first year, $40, $30 second and third years.). Internet will likely be a big upgrade. Not sure if the voice over internet phone will work with my ADT system yet but strongly considering switching.

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Handyman wrote:
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Speaking as someone who has to take alcohol awareness every year I can tell you that it isnt as absurd as you all think it is to have rules like that especially with dramshop laws in this state being as hardlined as they are. The restrictions are important to know and even though there is no law that says you cant serve someone with restriction you do so at your own peril. While I would personally accept a military ID or Passport if my bosses set a rule saying no I wouldnt even think twice I go along with it.

I get it is a PITA but I am not risking a Gross Misdemeanor for anyone.
Ditto back in the day when I worked at Shinder's. Porn sales was on the store. Tobacco was on me. I ID'd EVERYONE. Not risking my neck.
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Minnesota city governments are ridiculous about regulating alcohol...they look at it as a way to generate revenue and just end up hassling the crap out of everyone. It’s a reflection of part of the Minnesota population that are uptight about alcohol overall.
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Minnesota city governments are ridiculous about regulating alcohol...they look at it as a way to generate revenue and just end up hassling the crap out of everyone. It’s a reflection of part of the Minnesota population that are uptight about alcohol overall.
The blue laws in this state are strong. It's sad.
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fightclub30 wrote:
Fri Jul 26 9:04 pm
Cowgirl wrote:
Fri Jul 26 6:23 pm
I was denied at target field with papers for a new license.

But for my dumb question:
Anyone who has spectrum/charter for internet/cable services - how do you like it? Or how about direct tv? I know in the long run I won’t save money but I’ve been a dish customer for 20 years and I’m sick of their antics and continually rising rates. All they care about is new customers, they don’t give a $h!t about their long term ones.
Xfinity was awful, awful, awful when I had an apartment. Mediacom is only option where I live now for cable.

DirecTV I had for awhile, they also only cares about new customers.

Price I pay now for dish is fine. I'll give them a week or 2 to get FSN back, if not I'll be gone to a streaming service.
I am in the process of getting Jaguar Communications Fiber internet and TV... Planning to drop Dish after 20 years too. (And Mediacom Internet)

The fiber is to my house. Just waiting for the install to happen. I will be looking forward to the consistency of fiber up and download speeds.

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Post by MNGophers29 » Sat Jul 27 9:36 am

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Minnesota city governments are ridiculous about regulating alcohol...they look at it as a way to generate revenue and just end up hassling the crap out of everyone. It’s a reflection of part of the Minnesota population that are uptight about alcohol overall.
They do checks all the time in ND too. Most places have resulted in just carding everyone, no matter what. It makes my 34 year old wife feel like a million bucks, but this 40 year old guy finds it annoying.
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Bigbeer wrote:
Fri Jul 26 10:36 pm
Minnesota city governments are ridiculous about regulating alcohol...they look at it as a way to generate revenue and just end up hassling the crap out of everyone. It’s a reflection of part of the Minnesota population that are uptight about alcohol overall.
That has zero to do with this. This is 100% about preventing underage drinking and overserving/drunk driving. You want to attack blue laws go for it but this is not that. Dram Shop is there to keep bars (or people in general) from putting other people at risk.

I may not be the biggest fan of how some of it works...but I support it 100%.
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MNGophers29 wrote:
Sat Jul 27 9:36 am
Bigbeer wrote:
Fri Jul 26 10:36 pm
Minnesota city governments are ridiculous about regulating alcohol...they look at it as a way to generate revenue and just end up hassling the crap out of everyone. It’s a reflection of part of the Minnesota population that are uptight about alcohol overall.
They do checks all the time in ND too. Most places have resulted in just carding everyone, no matter what. It makes my 34 year old wife feel like a million bucks, but this 40 year old guy finds it annoying.
I got carded the other day and it didnt bother me in the least. Every so often I card someone and they get annoyed and I just shake my head. It is a 10 second issue that causes you literally no pain.
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Handyman wrote:
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Bigbeer wrote:
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Minnesota city governments are ridiculous about regulating alcohol...they look at it as a way to generate revenue and just end up hassling the crap out of everyone. It’s a reflection of part of the Minnesota population that are uptight about alcohol overall.
They do checks all the time in ND too. Most places have resulted in just carding everyone, no matter what. It makes my 34 year old wife feel like a million bucks, but this 40 year old guy finds it annoying.
I got carded the other day and it didnt bother me in the least. Every so often I card someone and they get annoyed and I just shake my head. It is a 10 second issue that causes you literally no pain.
I get carded once in a while, and I chuckle, since they seem to be embarrassed by carding me. I simply say (truthfully) that I've been on the other side of the counter, and I understand.
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Post by Chris83 » Sat Jul 27 1:15 pm

When I'm processing a tobacco purchase, I ID everybody. Most folks are cool, but I have had several people prick out on me. If taking the time to remove your ID and allow me to look it over is that much of an imposition, perhaps you need a bit of perspective reorientation.
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Post by Bigbeer » Sat Jul 27 8:14 pm

Handyman wrote:
Sat Jul 27 10:03 am
Bigbeer wrote:
Fri Jul 26 10:36 pm
Minnesota city governments are ridiculous about regulating alcohol...they look at it as a way to generate revenue and just end up hassling the crap out of everyone. It’s a reflection of part of the Minnesota population that are uptight about alcohol overall.
That has zero to do with this. This is 100% about preventing underage drinking and overserving/drunk driving. You want to attack blue laws go for it but this is not that. Dram Shop is there to keep bars (or people in general) from putting other people at risk.

I may not be the biggest fan of how some of it works...but I support it 100%.
You may want to think that but it’s not reality. The penalties are ridiculously high for clerks and businesses. When I worked in Maplewood there was a council person who, if she had her way, would have had the city be dry....she hated alcohol. They ran stings constantly. Minnesota has an uncomfortable relationship with booze.
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Post by Handyman » Sun Jul 28 1:06 am

Bigbeer wrote:
Sat Jul 27 8:14 pm
Handyman wrote:
Sat Jul 27 10:03 am
Bigbeer wrote:
Fri Jul 26 10:36 pm
Minnesota city governments are ridiculous about regulating alcohol...they look at it as a way to generate revenue and just end up hassling the crap out of everyone. It’s a reflection of part of the Minnesota population that are uptight about alcohol overall.
That has zero to do with this. This is 100% about preventing underage drinking and overserving/drunk driving. You want to attack blue laws go for it but this is not that. Dram Shop is there to keep bars (or people in general) from putting other people at risk.

I may not be the biggest fan of how some of it works...but I support it 100%.
You may want to think that but it’s not reality. The penalties are ridiculously high for clerks and businesses. When I worked in Maplewood there was a council person who, if she had her way, would have had the city be dry....she hated alcohol. They ran stings constantly. Minnesota has an uncomfortable relationship with booze.
Yeah I know what the fines are...as I said I have to take a course on it every year. (been doing the job for almost two decades) And yes different cities have different rules but dramshop was put in place because bars were overserving and then the people drove and killed people.(plus bars were failing police stings regularly) Some pretty famous cases about it. The idea was to put liability on those that let the person get behind the wheel. (or served them) That isnt blue laws that is just common sense. (and came about in my lifetime unlike most blue laws)

Maplewood may choose to be harsher, but that is a different issue altogether. If bars hadnt been negligent for years dramshop wouldnt be what it is today. And again I am 100% for it.
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MNGophers29 wrote:
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Minnesota city governments are ridiculous about regulating alcohol...they look at it as a way to generate revenue and just end up hassling the crap out of everyone. It’s a reflection of part of the Minnesota population that are uptight about alcohol overall.
They do checks all the time in ND too. Most places have resulted in just carding everyone, no matter what. It makes my 34 year old wife feel like a million bucks, but this 40 year old guy finds it annoying.
We were at the Portland Beer Fest yesterday. They're carding everyone at the gate. We get up there, I have my card out and ready and he just waved me through!! I was mildly insulted :lol: He could have at least PRETENDED to look at it.
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Post by Steve MN » Mon Jul 29 10:13 am

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Where are you folks going that it takes so long to replace an ID? Also don't bring in your expiring ID claim it's lost and they will replace and renew.
Minnesota.

At times, I forget you've been away for a while...

Since you left, the DMV tried changing their whole back-end system for licensing and didn't bother to ask anybody who knew more about computers than how to turn it on whether the project was actually workable on the scale/timeframe they wanted, so it's a typical government project screw up. A year and a half later and it still isn't working right, and it still can take several months to get a DL replaced, new plates sent out, etc. Tab renewal is about the only part that functions as usual.
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Steve MN wrote:
Mon Jul 29 10:13 am
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Where are you folks going that it takes so long to replace an ID? Also don't bring in your expiring ID claim it's lost and they will replace and renew.
Minnesota.

At times, I forget you've been away for a while...

Since you left, the DMV tried changing their whole back-end system for licensing and didn't bother to ask anybody who knew more about computers than how to turn it on whether the project was actually workable on the scale/timeframe they wanted, so it's a typical government project screw up. A year and a half later and it still isn't working right, and it still can take several months to get a DL replaced, new plates sent out, etc. Tab renewal is about the only part that functions as usual.
Several months? Wow that is brutal. I remember it never taking more than 4-6 weeks before.
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Post by Orion » Mon Jul 29 10:32 am

Steve MN wrote:
Mon Jul 29 10:13 am
Slap Shot wrote:
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Where are you folks going that it takes so long to replace an ID? Also don't bring in your expiring ID claim it's lost and they will replace and renew.
Minnesota.

At times, I forget you've been away for a while...

Since you left, the DMV tried changing their whole back-end system for licensing and didn't bother to ask anybody who knew more about computers than how to turn it on whether the project was actually workable on the scale/timeframe they wanted, so it's a typical government project screw up. A year and a half later and it still isn't working right, and it still can take several months to get a DL replaced, new plates sent out, etc. Tab renewal is about the only part that functions as usual.
Umm about the tabs. I got my 2019 tabs in June. They were due in February. Tried to do it online. Next time I'll go in and get them.

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Post by Steve MN » Mon Jul 29 10:34 am

Orion wrote:
Mon Jul 29 10:32 am
Steve MN wrote:
Mon Jul 29 10:13 am
Slap Shot wrote:
Fri Jul 26 8:51 pm
Where are you folks going that it takes so long to replace an ID? Also don't bring in your expiring ID claim it's lost and they will replace and renew.
Minnesota.

At times, I forget you've been away for a while...

Since you left, the DMV tried changing their whole back-end system for licensing and didn't bother to ask anybody who knew more about computers than how to turn it on whether the project was actually workable on the scale/timeframe they wanted, so it's a typical government project screw up. A year and a half later and it still isn't working right, and it still can take several months to get a DL replaced, new plates sent out, etc. Tab renewal is about the only part that functions as usual.
Umm about the tabs. I got my 2019 tabs in June. They were due in February. Tried to do it online. Next time I'll go in and get them.
Thanks for the addition. I was going to go back and add that it's just as bad to get tabs online as getting a DL replaced.

Definitely head to a local registrar. That still works normally for tabs.
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Post by solar » Mon Jul 29 1:02 pm

My oldest daughter went in and took her DL test in July 2018, and due to complications matching up her "eye test" and forms that she completed all on the same day, she received her actual DL in March 2019. All of this after many trips in to correct the issues, she still never received it. Nothing like ruining any excitement surrounding getting your drivers license.

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Orion wrote:
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Umm about the tabs. I got my 2019 tabs in June. They were due in February. Tried to do it online. Next time I'll go in and get them.
I tried to do it online last year too. After a couple months of waiting I finally went into the License Center.

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Post by Bertogliat » Mon Jul 29 2:00 pm

Weird. I had no trouble renewing tabs online. They came quickly.

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Bertogliat wrote:
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Weird. I had no trouble renewing tabs online. They came quickly.
Mine too. Came a week later.

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Post by MNNavy » Mon Jul 29 2:39 pm

For the past two years, we haven't received the renewal notice for my step-daughter's car. I know the state has the correct address, because it's on the title. Haven't had an issue with my wife's car or my truck. Go figure.
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solar wrote:
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My oldest daughter went in and took her DL test in July 2018, and due to complications matching up her "eye test" and forms that she completed all on the same day, she received her actual DL in March 2019. All of this after many trips in to correct the issues, she still never received it. Nothing like ruining any excitement surrounding getting your drivers license.
There was an article in the paper a few weeks back about people having to drive hundreds of miles outside the metro area to take their drivers test because the ones in the metro are booked out so far. My daughter is 11. Is it too early to schedule an appointment for 2024?

The Minnesota DMV is a complete clown show.

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Post by Orion » Mon Jul 29 4:21 pm

Bertogliat wrote:
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Weird. I had no trouble renewing tabs online. They came quickly.
It's totally random. Like winning an unholy lottery or getting accepted into UND.

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HockeyBum wrote:
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solar wrote:
Mon Jul 29 1:02 pm
My oldest daughter went in and took her DL test in July 2018, and due to complications matching up her "eye test" and forms that she completed all on the same day, she received her actual DL in March 2019. All of this after many trips in to correct the issues, she still never received it. Nothing like ruining any excitement surrounding getting your drivers license.
There was an article in the paper a few weeks back about people having to drive hundreds of miles outside the metro area to take their drivers test because the ones in the metro are booked out so far. My daughter is 11. Is it too early to schedule an appointment for 2024?

The Minnesota DMV is a complete clown show.
Funny you should mention this - we had to drive down to Mankato for my daughter to take the test due to this issue (saved months of waiting). I didn't really mind, as Mankato is not that far away, but really?

The worst part was that she failed the first time due to one simple mistake. The road test there involves a very large roundabout with a "unique" turn-lane feature that is not very common in the metro. She went in the wrong lane once when she was told to take a right "by the Red Lobster" (no joke), and she had never been there before to know where the Red Lobster was. Wow!

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I pretty much have all day on Friday earmarked for spending at the DMV in St Paul, to get my title and license transferred since I'm moving back to Minnesota. Last time I got my license for Minnesota, there was a bunch of weirdness about certain DMV locations only being able to do certain things, so I figure if I go to the main branch for the whole state, they can handle anything.

I did take all of these anecdotes about places not accepting passports/papers for licenses that are in the mail as a valid excuse for stocking up at 3 floyds

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I pretty much have all day on Friday earmarked for spending at the DMV in St Paul, to get my title and license transferred since I'm moving back to Minnesota. Last time I got my license for Minnesota, there was a bunch of weirdness about certain DMV locations only being able to do certain things, so I figure if I go to the main branch for the whole state, they can handle anything.

I did take all of these anecdotes about places not accepting passports/papers for licenses that are in the mail as a valid excuse for stocking up at 3 floyds
If you don’t mind a short drive, go to the Eagan dmv. I normally go to Apple Valley and rarely ever have to wait (I go mid morning on a weekday tho); but most recently they didn’t know how to keep my custom plates so went to Eagan and they knew exactly what to do and still were minimally busy.

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I think if you get to one right as they open you’re going to be in good shape. There may be a short wait but I’d guess you’ll be in there an hour max

I know the govt building in downtown Minneapolis used to open at 7:00. When I worked downtown it was great because I’d get there at 7:10 and still be in the office by 8:00
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Cowgirl wrote:
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Wed Jul 31 12:10 pm
I pretty much have all day on Friday earmarked for spending at the DMV in St Paul, to get my title and license transferred since I'm moving back to Minnesota. Last time I got my license for Minnesota, there was a bunch of weirdness about certain DMV locations only being able to do certain things, so I figure if I go to the main branch for the whole state, they can handle anything.

I did take all of these anecdotes about places not accepting passports/papers for licenses that are in the mail as a valid excuse for stocking up at 3 floyds
If you don’t mind a short drive, go to the Eagan dmv. I normally go to Apple Valley and rarely ever have to wait (I go mid morning on a weekday tho); but most recently they didn’t know how to keep my custom plates so went to Eagan and they knew exactly what to do and still were minimally busy.
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Post by kmd » Wed Jul 31 1:47 pm

Actually, it looks like the location in Midtown should be able to do all the things that I need, and is a lot closer. New resident license application involves passing a written exam, and I don't think either of those locations offer them.

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I think if you get to one right as they open you’re going to be in good shape. There may be a short wait but I’d guess you’ll be in there an hour max

I know the govt building in downtown Minneapolis used to open at 7:00. When I worked downtown it was great because I’d get there at 7:10 and still be in the office by 8:00
That's what I do for the Ridgedale one. Go on a Sat, show up 30 min in advance, wait in line for it to open, out in 15 minutes.
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Hi all. Is there one particular website better than others for good deals on airfare? I have a cousin in Ottawa, Ontario who I am pretty close to (we're three months apart in age and this has been a pretty cool month, as we got to watch the moon landing together when we were kids and were reminiscing over the past couple weeks) and I just found out about an hour ago that her 21 year old daughter died this morning. I'd like to get up there if at all possible, but $$$ IS a factor in that. Any feedback would be most appreciated. Thank you.
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Hi all. Is there one particular website better than others for good deals on airfare? I have a cousin in Ottawa, Ontario who I am pretty close to (we're three months apart in age and this has been a pretty cool month, as we got to watch the moon landing together when we were kids and were reminiscing over the past couple weeks) and I just found out about an hour ago that her 21 year old daughter died this morning. I'd like to get up there if at all possible, but $$$ IS a factor in that. Any feedback would be most appreciated. Thank you.
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I had a part time job at Total Wine and they were REALLY strict on ID's.

1. If you're ID showed you were 21 or 22, cashier still had to get a manager to look at it.
2. Management had to review any out of state ID (except IA, WI, ND, SD)
3. Management had to review any passport used as ID.
4. If someone was 21 but had friends with them, we would card their friends too. If their friends didn't have IDs, we wouldn't sell to the person who was of age. This happened a lot at closing time. (Obviously didn't apply to young kids with their parents/guardians). Even if the friends left the store, we wouldn't sell to them. If the friends would not have come into the store in the first place, they would have been alright.
5. I never saw this happen but our policy was we didn't sell ANYTHING to anyone under 21. This would include anything non-alcoholic. The principle being that they shouldn't be in a liquor store if they are under 21.

I did always think it was dumb to make people show their paper receipt along with their "clipped" ID but I never thought about the restrictions.
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Post by Handyman » Thu Aug 01 10:51 am

There is more to it than just restrictions. Papers are only good for so many days (used to be 30 I think) and after that they no longer constitute a valid ID. Alcohol purchases without a valid id are problematic.
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Handyman wrote:
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There is more to it than just restrictions. Papers are only good for so many days (used to be 30 I think) and after that they no longer constitute a valid ID. Alcohol purchases without a valid id are problematic.
I (morbidly) joke about what if someone was in a fatal accident, had a clipped ID, but not their papers. "Um, Mrs. Smith, we think your husband was killed in a car accident but we can't confirm it as his ID was clipped but he didn't have his renewal papers with him."
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Re: This might be a dumb question, but...

Post by The Rube » Thu Aug 01 9:41 pm

Zwak wrote:
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I had a part time job at Total Wine and they were REALLY strict on ID's.

1. If you're ID showed you were 21 or 22, cashier still had to get a manager to look at it.
2. Management had to review any out of state ID (except IA, WI, ND, SD)
3. Management had to review any passport used as ID.
4. If someone was 21 but had friends with them, we would card their friends too. If their friends didn't have IDs, we wouldn't sell to the person who was of age. This happened a lot at closing time. (Obviously didn't apply to young kids with their parents/guardians). Even if the friends left the store, we wouldn't sell to them. If the friends would not have come into the store in the first place, they would have been alright.
5. I never saw this happen but our policy was we didn't sell ANYTHING to anyone under 21. This would include anything non-alcoholic. The principle being that they shouldn't be in a liquor store if they are under 21.

I did always think it was dumb to make people show their paper receipt along with their "clipped" ID but I never thought about the restrictions.
#4 is quite common in stores.
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Post by MNGophers29 » Thu Aug 01 9:56 pm

Bladepuller wrote:
Thu Aug 01 9:02 am
Chris83 wrote:
Wed Jul 31 11:37 pm
Hi all. Is there one particular website better than others for good deals on airfare? I have a cousin in Ottawa, Ontario who I am pretty close to (we're three months apart in age and this has been a pretty cool month, as we got to watch the moon landing together when we were kids and were reminiscing over the past couple weeks) and I just found out about an hour ago that her 21 year old daughter died this morning. I'd like to get up there if at all possible, but $$$ IS a factor in that. Any feedback would be most appreciated. Thank you.
Call Air Canada and see if they have a funeral rate.
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davescharf wrote:
Thu Aug 01 5:57 am
Chris83 wrote:
Wed Jul 31 11:37 pm
Hi all. Is there one particular website better than others for good deals on airfare? I have a cousin in Ottawa, Ontario who I am pretty close to (we're three months apart in age and this has been a pretty cool month, as we got to watch the moon landing together when we were kids and were reminiscing over the past couple weeks) and I just found out about an hour ago that her 21 year old daughter died this morning. I'd like to get up there if at all possible, but $$$ IS a factor in that. Any feedback would be most appreciated. Thank you.
Sorry to hear this. Kayak is what I’d use
Yes, if you don't care which airline I'd check Kayak or similar sites for last minute fares. Unfortunately most airlines don't do "funeral" fares anymore, too many cheaters. But a quick Google shows Delta and Air Canada still do! There are some requirements you need to show proof. However, you will be getting a slight discount on their highest fares, I'd still check Kayak before you decide.
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Post by fightclub30 » Thu Aug 01 11:09 pm

The Rube wrote:
Thu Aug 01 9:41 pm
Zwak wrote:
Thu Aug 01 9:37 am
I had a part time job at Total Wine and they were REALLY strict on ID's.

1. If you're ID showed you were 21 or 22, cashier still had to get a manager to look at it.
2. Management had to review any out of state ID (except IA, WI, ND, SD)
3. Management had to review any passport used as ID.
4. If someone was 21 but had friends with them, we would card their friends too. If their friends didn't have IDs, we wouldn't sell to the person who was of age. This happened a lot at closing time. (Obviously didn't apply to young kids with their parents/guardians). Even if the friends left the store, we wouldn't sell to them. If the friends would not have come into the store in the first place, they would have been alright.
5. I never saw this happen but our policy was we didn't sell ANYTHING to anyone under 21. This would include anything non-alcoholic. The principle being that they shouldn't be in a liquor store if they are under 21.

I did always think it was dumb to make people show their paper receipt along with their "clipped" ID but I never thought about the restrictions.
#4 is quite common in stores.
I'm 33 and going into a liquor store with my wife I've been denied sales because she didn't have ID, but pretty much only in the metro. If we are headed up North for the weekend and stop some place north of Elk River I can't remember the last time I've been asked for ID, let alone asking my wife too...

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Up North, they give you a sixer just for walking in the store. ;)
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Up North, they give you a sixer just for walking in the store. ;)
Damnit, I wish! I would stop in several times a day!

I rarely get carded up here. The liquor store by my cabin (Red knows it) Safari Liquors has a bunch of exotic animal mounts in it as the original owner was the local sheriff and avid hunter many years ago. Anyway, I always went in with my Dad when I was a kid and I still bring my kids in there with me to look at the mounts!
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Post by Zwak » Tue Aug 06 9:12 am

What are your thoughts on using a VPN for home/small business/mobile (iPhone/iPad)? Are they necessary?

Note, I am very computer illiterate so please feel free to dumb it down :)
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MNGophers29 wrote:
Fri Aug 02 7:38 am
The Rube wrote:
Thu Aug 01 11:21 pm
Up North, they give you a sixer just for walking in the store. ;)
Damnit, I wish! I would stop in several times a day!

I rarely get carded up here. The liquor store by my cabin (Red knows it) Safari Liquors has a bunch of exotic animal mounts in it as the original owner was the local sheriff and avid hunter many years ago. Anyway, I always went in with my Dad when I was a kid and I still bring my kids in there with me to look at the mounts!
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Post by GopherPete » Tue Aug 06 10:33 am

Zwak wrote:
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What are your thoughts on using a VPN for home/small business/mobile (iPhone/iPad)? Are they necessary?

Note, I am very computer illiterate so please feel free to dumb it down :)
I too am very computer illiterate so not sure that from a technical standpoint I have much to offer. I've worked from home for the last 4 years and my company requires me to have a VPN so that I can access their network securely. Not sure if you'll need a static IP also, but I've been using one and it may be necessary in order to have the VPN. Most ISP's will require you to upgrade to their "business" internet instead of residential, which is generally a bit more expensive.

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Post by Chris83 » Sun Aug 11 10:36 pm

Chris83 wrote:
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Hi all. Is there one particular website better than others for good deals on airfare? I have a cousin in Ottawa, Ontario who I am pretty close to (we're three months apart in age and this has been a pretty cool month, as we got to watch the moon landing together when we were kids and were reminiscing over the past couple weeks) and I just found out about an hour ago that her 21 year old daughter died this morning. I'd like to get up there if at all possible, but $$$ IS a factor in that. Any feedback would be most appreciated. Thank you.
Davescharf, Bladepuller, MNGophers29 & Kelly Red: Thank you very much for the feedback, advice and kind thoughts. I actually ended up booking through CheapOair (through a "compare" run via Kayak) and got a terrific rate. I needed to be there and you really helped me out. I greatly appreciate that.
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Post by trixR4kids » Tue Aug 27 12:38 pm

Anyone having issues getting logged out of GPL and then having to log back in constantly? Sometimes it won't take my user/pw when I log back in too... :confused2:
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Anyone having issues getting logged out of GPL and then having to log back in constantly? Sometimes it won't take my user/pw when I log back in too... :confused2:
I thought it was just me. About once a week it happens.
And the homebrew forum I'm on does the same thing on the same day.

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trixR4kids wrote:
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Anyone having issues getting logged out of GPL and then having to log back in constantly? Sometimes it won't take my user/pw when I log back in too... :confused2:
The first part happens to me almost every other day. I've never had it deny my user name/pw though.
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