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Post by gopher6 » Tue Mar 30 1:25 pm

So with Bally’s taking over FSN broadcasting can we be lucky and no longer have Lapanta on our broadcasts?

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Post by frozen4champs » Tue Mar 30 1:32 pm

gopher6 wrote:
Tue Mar 30 1:25 pm
So with Bally’s taking over FSN broadcasting can we be lucky and no longer have Lapanta on our broadcasts?
Sinclair just sold the naming rights for FSN to Ballys. No ownership change. Bally's will have no say in who is in the both.

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Post by Jupiter » Tue Mar 30 1:33 pm

frozen4champs wrote:
Tue Mar 30 1:32 pm
gopher6 wrote:
Tue Mar 30 1:25 pm
So with Bally’s taking over FSN broadcasting can we be lucky and no longer have Lapanta on our broadcasts?
Sinclair just sold the naming rights for FSN to Ballys. No ownership change. Bally's will have no say in who is in the both.
Correct.... Nothing changes other than the brand/name.

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Post by Zwak » Tue Mar 30 2:11 pm

Jupiter wrote:
Tue Mar 30 1:33 pm
frozen4champs wrote:
Tue Mar 30 1:32 pm
gopher6 wrote:
Tue Mar 30 1:25 pm
So with Bally’s taking over FSN broadcasting can we be lucky and no longer have Lapanta on our broadcasts?
Sinclair just sold the naming rights for FSN to Ballys. No ownership change. Bally's will have no say in who is in the both.
Correct.... Nothing changes other than the brand/name.
Michael Rand had Mike Dimond from FSN/Bally Sports Network on his podcast today. Mike is a senior vp and gm for FSN. Gave some good insights on the branding change and also the issues with FSN and streaming services.

https://www.startribune.com/fsn-to-ball ... 600040208/

An interesting nugget is that there are 5 days where the Wild, Twins, and Wolves play at the same time. CW23 (over the air channel) is going to be branded as Bally Sports Extra on those days and will broadcast the 5 Wolves games
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Post by Chris83 » Thu Apr 01 10:57 pm

I don't have access to "Bollywood Sports North" or whatever it's going by nowadays. Saw the Wild game vs Vegas was NBCSN, tuned over and got the "This program is blocked in your area". I'm so over the draconian blackout rules for TV sports. Twins, Wild and whatever else is on BSN, see 'ya. It's become so impossible to view my local teams, the time to tap out is here. It's incredible that we're in the year 2021 and it was easier to see the Twins and the local NHL team with the antenna on my parents' roof and 4 channels than it is now. Obviously no one gives 2 sh*ts about me as a fan and consumer and the feeling is more than mutual.
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Post by D2D » Thu Apr 01 11:20 pm

As I (still) get all the cable channels and am able to watch the Wild, the Twins, the Gophs, etc I can't really complain, other than the added cost to my monthly cable bill. However there will come a time when I say "screw it" and cancel all of these online subscriptions and just read about what happened here.
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Chris83 wrote:
Thu Apr 01 10:57 pm
I don't have access to "Bollywood Sports North" or whatever it's going by nowadays. Saw the Wild game vs Vegas was NBCSN, tuned over and got the "This program is blocked in your area". I'm so over the draconian blackout rules for TV sports. Twins, Wild and whatever else is on BSN, see 'ya. It's become so impossible to view my local teams, the time to tap out is here. It's incredible that we're in the year 2021 and it was easier to see the Twins and the local NHL team with the antenna on my parents' roof and 4 channels than it is now. Obviously no one gives 2 sh*ts about me as a fan and consumer and the feeling is more than mutual.
I'm masking my IP address to get NBCSN to work tonight.

Stealing my Dad's xfinity login other nights. I don't use it for anything but FSN, or whatever the F it's called now.

Balls sports, the stupid logo looks like the walgreens "w" turned on its side. Same colors too

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Post by Beauner » Thu Apr 01 11:29 pm

I get a sneaking feeling that, at least in the states where sports gambling is legal, Ballys is going to push Sinclair to settle up (which I assume means everywhere else gets settled up) because they're going to want people to be able to make bets via an app. Not sure when that will happen but I would not be surprised at all if they announce an app that allows real-time sports betting and they have real-time odds on the scroll etc.

More viewers means more bets, more bets means more money.
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Post by Sioux/Bucky Hater » Fri Apr 02 10:24 am

Chris83 wrote:
Thu Apr 01 10:57 pm
I don't have access to "Bollywood Sports North" or whatever it's going by nowadays. Saw the Wild game vs Vegas was NBCSN, tuned over and got the "This program is blocked in your area". I'm so over the draconian blackout rules for TV sports. Twins, Wild and whatever else is on BSN, see 'ya. It's become so impossible to view my local teams, the time to tap out is here. It's incredible that we're in the year 2021 and it was easier to see the Twins and the local NHL team with the antenna on my parents' roof and 4 channels than it is now. Obviously no one gives 2 sh*ts about me as a fan and consumer and the feeling is more than mutual.
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Post by Norm » Fri Apr 02 11:18 am

Chris83 wrote:
Thu Apr 01 10:57 pm
It's incredible that we're in the year 2021 and it was easier to see the Twins and the local NHL team with the antenna on my parents' roof and 4 channels than it is now.
Ditto. I grew up in the '60s. My brother and I used to walk over to our grandparents to watch the Twins cause they had a UHF antenna and got 4,5,9,&11 while we had only ch12 from Mankato.

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Post by Chris83 » Fri Apr 02 11:21 am

Whioux/Bucky Hater wrote:
Fri Apr 02 10:24 am
Chris83 wrote:
Thu Apr 01 10:57 pm
I don't have access to "Bollywood Sports North" or whatever it's going by nowadays. Saw the Wild game vs Vegas was NBCSN, tuned over and got the "This program is blocked in your area". I'm so over the draconian blackout rules for TV sports. Twins, Wild and whatever else is on BSN, see 'ya. It's become so impossible to view my local teams, the time to tap out is here. It's incredible that we're in the year 2021 and it was easier to see the Twins and the local NHL team with the antenna on my parents' roof and 4 channels than it is now. Obviously no one gives 2 sh*ts about me as a fan and consumer and the feeling is more than mutual.
DirecTV will show you what you want to see.
Unfortunately for this option, I live out a bit and in a heavily wooded area. We can't get a good line of sight for the DirecTV satellite. Their techs have been out and tried previously.
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Post by Sioux/Bucky Hater » Fri Apr 02 11:25 am

Chris83 wrote:
Fri Apr 02 11:21 am
Whioux/Bucky Hater wrote:
Fri Apr 02 10:24 am
Chris83 wrote:
Thu Apr 01 10:57 pm
I don't have access to "Bollywood Sports North" or whatever it's going by nowadays. Saw the Wild game vs Vegas was NBCSN, tuned over and got the "This program is blocked in your area". I'm so over the draconian blackout rules for TV sports. Twins, Wild and whatever else is on BSN, see 'ya. It's become so impossible to view my local teams, the time to tap out is here. It's incredible that we're in the year 2021 and it was easier to see the Twins and the local NHL team with the antenna on my parents' roof and 4 channels than it is now. Obviously no one gives 2 sh*ts about me as a fan and consumer and the feeling is more than mutual.
DirecTV will show you what you want to see.
Unfortunately for this option, I live out a bit and in a heavily wooded area. We can't get a good line of sight for the DirecTV satellite. Their techs have been out and tried previously.
Bummer. Same thing happened with my parents place.

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Post by Greyeagle » Fri Apr 02 12:03 pm

Chris83 wrote:
Fri Apr 02 11:21 am
Unfortunately for this option, I live out a bit and in a heavily wooded area. We can't get a good line of sight for the DirecTV satellite. Their techs have been out and tried previously.
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Post by Chris83 » Fri Apr 02 12:19 pm

Greyeagle wrote:
Fri Apr 02 12:03 pm
Chris83 wrote:
Fri Apr 02 11:21 am
Unfortunately for this option, I live out a bit and in a heavily wooded area. We can't get a good line of sight for the DirecTV satellite. Their techs have been out and tried previously.
It's :chainsaw: :chainsaw: :chainsaw: time!! :)
No doubt that tree removal for enhanced sports viewing would go over quite well with Miss Tamara. I would then be seeing if DirecTV could outfit my van down by the river. :lol:
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Whioux/Bucky Hater wrote:
Fri Apr 02 10:24 am
Chris83 wrote:
Thu Apr 01 10:57 pm
I don't have access to "Bollywood Sports North" or whatever it's going by nowadays. Saw the Wild game vs Vegas was NBCSN, tuned over and got the "This program is blocked in your area". I'm so over the draconian blackout rules for TV sports. Twins, Wild and whatever else is on BSN, see 'ya. It's become so impossible to view my local teams, the time to tap out is here. It's incredible that we're in the year 2021 and it was easier to see the Twins and the local NHL team with the antenna on my parents' roof and 4 channels than it is now. Obviously no one gives 2 sh*ts about me as a fan and consumer and the feeling is more than mutual.
DirecTV will show you what you want to see.
And then I have to rent a "box" for each TV I want to watch it on at $8.00+ per month. And then they refuse to upgrade them when they are obsolete without paying a $300 installation/upgrade fee. If I move a box from TV to TV it takes 10 minutes for the box to re-boot itself every time.

On top of getting 95% of what we watch for $70/month with YouTubeTV and I can watch on as many devices as I want versus $150/month+ for DirecTV.

I am not willing to double my TV bill just for FSN.

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Post by Sioux/Bucky Hater » Fri Apr 02 12:47 pm

fightclub30 wrote:
Fri Apr 02 12:30 pm
Whioux/Bucky Hater wrote:
Fri Apr 02 10:24 am
Chris83 wrote:
Thu Apr 01 10:57 pm
I don't have access to "Bollywood Sports North" or whatever it's going by nowadays. Saw the Wild game vs Vegas was NBCSN, tuned over and got the "This program is blocked in your area". I'm so over the draconian blackout rules for TV sports. Twins, Wild and whatever else is on BSN, see 'ya. It's become so impossible to view my local teams, the time to tap out is here. It's incredible that we're in the year 2021 and it was easier to see the Twins and the local NHL team with the antenna on my parents' roof and 4 channels than it is now. Obviously no one gives 2 sh*ts about me as a fan and consumer and the feeling is more than mutual.
DirecTV will show you what you want to see.
And then I have to rent a "box" for each TV I want to watch it on at $8.00+ per month. And then they refuse to upgrade them when they are obsolete without paying a $300 installation/upgrade fee. If I move a box from TV to TV it takes 10 minutes for the box to re-boot itself every time.

On top of getting 95% of what we watch for $70/month with YouTubeTV and I can watch on as many devices as I want versus $150/month+ for DirecTV.

I am not willing to double my TV bill just for FSN.
Hey, I never said it was cheep. I have many gripes about them myself. That said, they have what I want. Recently, I gave them a couple of my gripes. They dropped $50 a month off my bill. Not one time, but ongoing. For that, I will likely continue to use them for awhile.

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Post by Norm » Fri Apr 02 12:58 pm

fightclub30 wrote:
Fri Apr 02 12:30 pm
Whioux/Bucky Hater wrote:
Fri Apr 02 10:24 am
Chris83 wrote:
Thu Apr 01 10:57 pm
I don't have access to "Bollywood Sports North" or whatever it's going by nowadays. Saw the Wild game vs Vegas was NBCSN, tuned over and got the "This program is blocked in your area". I'm so over the draconian blackout rules for TV sports. Twins, Wild and whatever else is on BSN, see 'ya. It's become so impossible to view my local teams, the time to tap out is here. It's incredible that we're in the year 2021 and it was easier to see the Twins and the local NHL team with the antenna on my parents' roof and 4 channels than it is now. Obviously no one gives 2 sh*ts about me as a fan and consumer and the feeling is more than mutual.
DirecTV will show you what you want to see.
And then I have to rent a "box" for each TV I want to watch it on at $8.00+ per month. And then they refuse to upgrade them when they are obsolete without paying a $300 installation/upgrade fee.
What's with the $8 box per TV? We have Dish TV and have only one box that runs 2 TVs.

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Post by Kelly Red » Fri Apr 02 1:16 pm

Norm wrote:
Fri Apr 02 12:58 pm
fightclub30 wrote:
Fri Apr 02 12:30 pm
Whioux/Bucky Hater wrote:
Fri Apr 02 10:24 am
Chris83 wrote:
Thu Apr 01 10:57 pm
I don't have access to "Bollywood Sports North" or whatever it's going by nowadays. Saw the Wild game vs Vegas was NBCSN, tuned over and got the "This program is blocked in your area". I'm so over the draconian blackout rules for TV sports. Twins, Wild and whatever else is on BSN, see 'ya. It's become so impossible to view my local teams, the time to tap out is here. It's incredible that we're in the year 2021 and it was easier to see the Twins and the local NHL team with the antenna on my parents' roof and 4 channels than it is now. Obviously no one gives 2 sh*ts about me as a fan and consumer and the feeling is more than mutual.
DirecTV will show you what you want to see.
And then I have to rent a "box" for each TV I want to watch it on at $8.00+ per month. And then they refuse to upgrade them when they are obsolete without paying a $300 installation/upgrade fee.
What's with the $8 box per TV? We have Dish TV and have only one box that runs 2 TVs.
Same here, one box-two TVs. And the last time they replaced a box I wasn’t charged $300!
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Post by fightclub30 » Fri Apr 02 2:50 pm

Kelly Red wrote:
Fri Apr 02 1:16 pm
Norm wrote:
Fri Apr 02 12:58 pm
fightclub30 wrote:
Fri Apr 02 12:30 pm
Whioux/Bucky Hater wrote:
Fri Apr 02 10:24 am
Chris83 wrote:
Thu Apr 01 10:57 pm
I don't have access to "Bollywood Sports North" or whatever it's going by nowadays. Saw the Wild game vs Vegas was NBCSN, tuned over and got the "This program is blocked in your area". I'm so over the draconian blackout rules for TV sports. Twins, Wild and whatever else is on BSN, see 'ya. It's become so impossible to view my local teams, the time to tap out is here. It's incredible that we're in the year 2021 and it was easier to see the Twins and the local NHL team with the antenna on my parents' roof and 4 channels than it is now. Obviously no one gives 2 sh*ts about me as a fan and consumer and the feeling is more than mutual.
DirecTV will show you what you want to see.
And then I have to rent a "box" for each TV I want to watch it on at $8.00+ per month. And then they refuse to upgrade them when they are obsolete without paying a $300 installation/upgrade fee.
What's with the $8 box per TV? We have Dish TV and have only one box that runs 2 TVs.
Same here, one box-two TVs. And the last time they replaced a box I wasn’t charged $300!
Something must've changed. We had DirecTV and then Dish. Both charged rental fees on their boxes. Dish with "Joeys" and DirecTV with "Genies." So to watch on 3 TVs, we paid $16/month for the 2nd and 3rd TVs. Plus all the other fees they had. So our Advertised rate of $99.99/month was actually close to $150 after taxes and fees.

With DirecTV our equipment turned obsolete, they wouldn't send me new boxes. They wanted to send someone out to replace them and set them up. I called in several times about pricing and was never offered a discount even when I actually did cancel.

Directly from their website:
Additional Fees & Taxes: Price excludes $10/mo. internet equipment fee, Regional Sports Fee of up to $9.99/mo. (which is extra & applies to CHOICE and/or MÁS ULTRA and higher Pkgs.), applicable use tax expense surcharge on retail value of installation, custom installation, equipment upgrades/add-ons (min. $99 one-time & $7/mo. monthly fees for each extra receiver/DIRECTV Ready TV/Device), and certain other add’l fees & charges. See att.com/directvfees for additional details. Different offers may apply for eligible multi-dwelling unit customers.
https://www.att.com/buy/bundles

Go down to "Step 3 - How many TVs are you connecting?" 2nd TV is $7 per month, 3rd is another $7 per month ($14 total).

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Post by ex_goldy » Fri Apr 02 3:15 pm

Now they have the streaming direct tv app which works if your internet is capable. It’s expensive if you have poor internet like the rural folks since they have to buy the boxes and use satellite. I dropped direct tv years ago but I was able to buy boxes from ex users and connect them and avoid the 2 year contract that went with new equipment. They did charge for HD and recording services on them back then. It was expensive and per device.

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Post by frozen4champs » Fri Apr 02 3:41 pm

I have had DirecTV for 25 years. It is true that they nickel and dime you to death. Yes, they are expensive. That said, I weigh the price to value. We get the sports pack added on, with most of the regional networks that allows us to see other college hockey games on NESN, Altitude, NBC Sports Chicago etc. We don't have any other streaming services ( Netflix etc) and we have a basic cell phones, so the money we save on that stuff makes paying more for DirecTV a little easier to swallow. Every few years when their price gets out of hand, I will call and say I'm going to drop part of their service, and I end up getting money taken off.

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Post by Karlsson » Tue Apr 06 2:56 pm

How long are my Fox Sports Go apps going to work?

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Post by frozen4champs » Tue Apr 06 3:01 pm

Karlsson wrote:
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How long are my Fox Sports Go apps going to work?
This is what I found--
What will your new app be called and when will it launch?

A: The Bally Sports app will launch this spring. The new Bally Sports app is in the final stages of development and we can’t wait to bring you this new game viewing experience. In the meantime, you can continue streaming on FOX Sports GO until the transition to the new app is complete. Once the Bally Sports app becomes widely available, the FOX Sports GO app will update to the all-new Bally Sports app

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Post by Karlsson » Tue Apr 06 3:19 pm

That's nice. I was hoping they'd push it through as an update. I'll stop periodically searching for a Bally's app now.

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Post by gopher6 » Wed Apr 07 8:46 am

So with the crowds now allowed at games will the local voices of broadcasts be allowed to travel and broadcast from road games?

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Post by Buzzkill Bonin » Mon Apr 12 1:45 pm

Noooo, we don't need more people on the North Shore... They will last until the winter lol.
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Post by g-manpuck » Mon Apr 12 2:21 pm

Bonin21 wrote:
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Noooo, we don't need more people on the North Shore... They will last until the winter lol.
This Midwest city is becoming a safe haven for climate refugees
An interesting story, but I noticed that the author really glanced over the climate migrant shift of those from the upper midwest to the south. It would be interesting to see a study done on what that ratio is to the ones moving to the upper midwest to escape the coastal climate issues. My guess would be much higher of us moving there than them moving here. Like you said, give them until winter. My sister who lives in the valley in LA will never visit in winter, I told her that she didn't need to go out of her way to visit just for me! :mrgreen:
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Post by Cowgirl » Mon Apr 12 2:29 pm

Get used to it. There will be more people EVERYWHERE at the rate humans continue to reproduce. They have to go somewhere. 😆

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Post by Orion » Mon Apr 12 3:48 pm

Cowgirl wrote:
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Get used to it. There will be more people EVERYWHERE at the rate humans continue to reproduce. They have to go somewhere. 😆
They still won't want to live in Grand Forks.

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Post by Buzzkill Bonin » Mon Apr 12 3:56 pm

Orion wrote:
Mon Apr 12 3:48 pm
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Mon Apr 12 2:29 pm
Get used to it. There will be more people EVERYWHERE at the rate humans continue to reproduce. They have to go somewhere. 😆
They still won't want to live in Grand Forks.
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Post by gopherguy06 » Thu Apr 15 6:37 pm

I recall the 96.3 and 97.1 changing formats but was surprised to hear then whole driving today.

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Post by The Rube » Thu Apr 15 8:23 pm

gopherguy06 wrote:
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I recall the 96.3 and 97.1 changing formats but was surprised to hear then whole driving today.
I have to reset all my "favorites" in my car. Grrr. (The Christian stations)
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I recall the 96.3 and 97.1 changing formats but was surprised to hear then whole driving today.
I have to reset all my "favorites" in my car. Grrr. (The Christian stations)
Yep I had to do that today too.
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Laffer will be on BTP on Saturday.

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Yeah... I do not need any mention of the the big trial here. Just not worth it.

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Turner Sports gets the other part of the NHL package. It will be interesting if they develop a pregame show similar to their basketball show and how many of the current NBC hockey people end up there.


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Gerby to be on Burrito right now

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With Bally’s is it possible for the Twinkies,Wild,Timberwolves to either get Bally’s to resume coverage on the providers that FSN had before the purchase, or null and void their current contract with Bally’s

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With Bally’s is it possible for the Twinkies,Wild,Timberwolves to either get Bally’s to resume coverage on the providers that FSN had before the purchase, or null and void their current contract with Bally’s
I was told it's just a name change, nothing will change with coverage.

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But why since name change so many people not able to watch their teams on there local tv other then Comcast?

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This is all on the owner Sinclair.

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Jupiter wrote:
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This is all on the owner Sinclair.
Correct. Bally's simply has the naming rights Nothing else.
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gopher6 wrote:
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With Bally’s is it possible for the Twinkies,Wild,Timberwolves to either get Bally’s to resume coverage on the providers that FSN had before the purchase, or null and void their current contract with Bally’s
No. Sinclair Broadcasting owns Ballys. Sinclair is the one not negotiating with the various TV providers.
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Beauner wrote:
Mon May 03 7:15 pm
gopher6 wrote:
Mon May 03 1:05 pm
With Bally’s is it possible for the Twinkies,Wild,Timberwolves to either get Bally’s to resume coverage on the providers that FSN had before the purchase, or null and void their current contract with Bally’s
No. Sinclair Broadcasting owns Ballys. Sinclair is the one not negotiating with the various TV providers.
Ok back to original question can’t they all team up and void the contract with Sinclair?

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gopher6 wrote:
Tue May 04 6:30 am
Beauner wrote:
Mon May 03 7:15 pm
gopher6 wrote:
Mon May 03 1:05 pm
With Bally’s is it possible for the Twinkies,Wild,Timberwolves to either get Bally’s to resume coverage on the providers that FSN had before the purchase, or null and void their current contract with Bally’s
No. Sinclair Broadcasting owns Ballys. Sinclair is the one not negotiating with the various TV providers.
Ok back to original question can’t they all team up and void the contract with Sinclair?
And then what? Who do the teams go to to broadcast their games? I'm going to bet there's pretty ironclad language in those contracts. The fact is that BSN is available on some services just not as many as people would like (myself included).
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Zwak wrote:
Tue May 04 7:48 am
gopher6 wrote:
Tue May 04 6:30 am
Beauner wrote:
Mon May 03 7:15 pm
gopher6 wrote:
Mon May 03 1:05 pm
With Bally’s is it possible for the Twinkies,Wild,Timberwolves to either get Bally’s to resume coverage on the providers that FSN had before the purchase, or null and void their current contract with Bally’s
No. Sinclair Broadcasting owns Ballys. Sinclair is the one not negotiating with the various TV providers.
Ok back to original question can’t they all team up and void the contract with Sinclair?
And then what? Who do the teams go to to broadcast their games? I'm going to bet there's pretty ironclad language in those contracts. The fact is that BSN is available on some services just not as many as people would like (myself included).
Precisely. Their options are:
1) Stay with Sinclair/Bally's - at least they're still being televised, just not on the streaming services.
2) Break the contract, and have ZERO games televised.
3) Break the contract and start their own network. Guaranteed, that option would cost MORE, and garner fewer sets of eyes than their current situation.
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MNNavy wrote:
Tue May 04 8:02 am
Zwak wrote:
Tue May 04 7:48 am
gopher6 wrote:
Tue May 04 6:30 am
Beauner wrote:
Mon May 03 7:15 pm
gopher6 wrote:
Mon May 03 1:05 pm
With Bally’s is it possible for the Twinkies,Wild,Timberwolves to either get Bally’s to resume coverage on the providers that FSN had before the purchase, or null and void their current contract with Bally’s
No. Sinclair Broadcasting owns Ballys. Sinclair is the one not negotiating with the various TV providers.
Ok back to original question can’t they all team up and void the contract with Sinclair?
And then what? Who do the teams go to to broadcast their games? I'm going to bet there's pretty ironclad language in those contracts. The fact is that BSN is available on some services just not as many as people would like (myself included).
Precisely. Their options are:
1) Stay with Sinclair/Bally's - at least they're still being televised, just not on the streaming services.
2) Break the contract, and have ZERO games televised.
3) Break the contract and start their own network. Guaranteed, that option would cost MORE, and garner fewer sets of eyes than their current situation.
And, of course, I can pretty much guarantee that if they actually can break that contract, there would be some hefty penalties involved, so even more costs.
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The Twins tried option 3. It flopped.

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With some searching you can find a free stream and they don’t have the technology yet to block it. But I don’t put the effort in to even look for them anymore. If they looked at the entire league how would teams survive in down years? It’s so short sighted. I’m reduced to bandwagon fan status, if the Wild make it to national coverage then I’ll watch.

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Norm wrote:
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The Twins tried option 3. It flopped.
Yeah Victory Sports One lasted all of 190 days. Launched Halloween 2003 and shut down May 8, 2004. They tried to copy what the Yankees did with YES Network but were charging more than any of the major cable or satellite provider would carry.
They immediately re-signed a deal with FSN and have remained with them since.
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Ah, give me the days of Midwest Sports Channel with pre-game analysis, special interest stories, and post game interviews with players and coaches.

Watching Gopher hockey on the Big10 Network by comparison just sucks. They more often than not start the game late, cutting right into game play 5 minutes into the first period and when the game ends, it's like somebody tripped over power cord. They can't break away fast enough.

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Ah, give me the days of Midwest Sports Channel with pre-game analysis, special interest stories, and post game interviews with players and coaches.

Watching Gopher hockey on the Big10 Network by comparison just sucks. They more often than not start the game late, cutting right into game play 5 minutes into the first period and when the game ends, it's like somebody tripped over power cord. They can't break away fast enough.
Big Ten network did a half hour pregame show before the BADgers game for the tournament title. Did anyone watch it?? Probably not.

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streakygopher wrote:
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Ah, give me the days of Midwest Sports Channel with pre-game analysis, special interest stories, and post game interviews with players and coaches.

Watching Gopher hockey on the Big10 Network by comparison just sucks. They more often than not start the game late, cutting right into game play 5 minutes into the first period and when the game ends, it's like somebody tripped over power cord. They can't break away fast enough.
I do not recall MSC doing much of this, but I know that FSN did a TON of it back in the day.

You need to realize that the B10 Network has A LOT more to cover than just one market and a handful of sports like FSN/BSN does. So they have very little flexibility compared to FSN/BSN. Starting late, cutting away... That is the deal when you have a national network with tons of different sports covering 14 schools.

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Jupiter wrote:
Wed May 05 10:21 am
streakygopher wrote:
Wed May 05 10:04 am
Ah, give me the days of Midwest Sports Channel with pre-game analysis, special interest stories, and post game interviews with players and coaches.

Watching Gopher hockey on the Big10 Network by comparison just sucks. They more often than not start the game late, cutting right into game play 5 minutes into the first period and when the game ends, it's like somebody tripped over power cord. They can't break away fast enough.
I do not recall MSC doing much of this, but I know that FSN did a TON of it back in the day.

You need to realize that the B10 Network has A LOT more to cover than just one market and a handful of sports like FSN/BSN does. So they have very little flexibility compared to FSN/BSN. Starting late, cutting away... That is the deal when you have a national network with tons of different sports covering 14 schools.
I understand the commitments the Big10 has. I just liked the old days of more coverage - and local coverage - better. :wink:
You could be right that FSN did it more in the beginning, but I thought MSC did too.

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streakygopher wrote:
Wed May 05 11:03 am
Jupiter wrote:
Wed May 05 10:21 am
streakygopher wrote:
Wed May 05 10:04 am
Ah, give me the days of Midwest Sports Channel with pre-game analysis, special interest stories, and post game interviews with players and coaches.

Watching Gopher hockey on the Big10 Network by comparison just sucks. They more often than not start the game late, cutting right into game play 5 minutes into the first period and when the game ends, it's like somebody tripped over power cord. They can't break away fast enough.
I do not recall MSC doing much of this, but I know that FSN did a TON of it back in the day.

You need to realize that the B10 Network has A LOT more to cover than just one market and a handful of sports like FSN/BSN does. So they have very little flexibility compared to FSN/BSN. Starting late, cutting away... That is the deal when you have a national network with tons of different sports covering 14 schools.
I understand the commitments the Big10 has. I just liked the old days of more coverage - and local coverage - better. :wink:
You could be right that FSN did it more in the beginning, but I thought MSC did too.
Those 1/2 hour pregame shows with interviews definitely made me feel a connection to the players.

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Jupiter wrote:
Wed May 05 10:21 am
streakygopher wrote:
Wed May 05 10:04 am
Ah, give me the days of Midwest Sports Channel with pre-game analysis, special interest stories, and post game interviews with players and coaches.

Watching Gopher hockey on the Big10 Network by comparison just sucks. They more often than not start the game late, cutting right into game play 5 minutes into the first period and when the game ends, it's like somebody tripped over power cord. They can't break away fast enough.
I do not recall MSC doing much of this, but I know that FSN did a TON of it back in the day.

You need to realize that the B10 Network has A LOT more to cover than just one market and a handful of sports like FSN/BSN does. So they have very little flexibility compared to FSN/BSN. Starting late, cutting away... That is the deal when you have a national network with tons of different sports covering 14 schools.
They should start the 1st game of the day 1/2 hr or 1 hr earlier so the 2nd game can be shown without having coverage issues

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gopher6 wrote:
Wed May 05 1:13 pm
Jupiter wrote:
Wed May 05 10:21 am
streakygopher wrote:
Wed May 05 10:04 am
Ah, give me the days of Midwest Sports Channel with pre-game analysis, special interest stories, and post game interviews with players and coaches.

Watching Gopher hockey on the Big10 Network by comparison just sucks. They more often than not start the game late, cutting right into game play 5 minutes into the first period and when the game ends, it's like somebody tripped over power cord. They can't break away fast enough.
I do not recall MSC doing much of this, but I know that FSN did a TON of it back in the day.

You need to realize that the B10 Network has A LOT more to cover than just one market and a handful of sports like FSN/BSN does. So they have very little flexibility compared to FSN/BSN. Starting late, cutting away... That is the deal when you have a national network with tons of different sports covering 14 schools.
They should start the 1st game of the day 1/2 hr or 1 hr earlier so the 2nd game can be shown without having coverage issues
And then the number of games they show will decrease, I get you probably don’t care about a Purdue-Northwestern basketball game but when it does a number 11 times higher than what a hockey game will get, your voice won’t matter until hockey actually gets better ratings than the Big Ten gymnastics meet.

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gopher6 wrote:
Wed May 05 1:13 pm
Jupiter wrote:
Wed May 05 10:21 am
streakygopher wrote:
Wed May 05 10:04 am
Ah, give me the days of Midwest Sports Channel with pre-game analysis, special interest stories, and post game interviews with players and coaches.

Watching Gopher hockey on the Big10 Network by comparison just sucks. They more often than not start the game late, cutting right into game play 5 minutes into the first period and when the game ends, it's like somebody tripped over power cord. They can't break away fast enough.
I do not recall MSC doing much of this, but I know that FSN did a TON of it back in the day.

You need to realize that the B10 Network has A LOT more to cover than just one market and a handful of sports like FSN/BSN does. So they have very little flexibility compared to FSN/BSN. Starting late, cutting away... That is the deal when you have a national network with tons of different sports covering 14 schools.
They should start the 1st game of the day 1/2 hr or 1 hr earlier so the 2nd game can be shown without having coverage issues
I would be happy if they would just use the technology available to cater their programming to show games of regional interest. We all know the technology is available, because Fox and CBS do it all the time with the NFL.
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MNNavy wrote:
Wed May 05 3:15 pm
gopher6 wrote:
Wed May 05 1:13 pm
Jupiter wrote:
Wed May 05 10:21 am
streakygopher wrote:
Wed May 05 10:04 am
Ah, give me the days of Midwest Sports Channel with pre-game analysis, special interest stories, and post game interviews with players and coaches.

Watching Gopher hockey on the Big10 Network by comparison just sucks. They more often than not start the game late, cutting right into game play 5 minutes into the first period and when the game ends, it's like somebody tripped over power cord. They can't break away fast enough.
I do not recall MSC doing much of this, but I know that FSN did a TON of it back in the day.

You need to realize that the B10 Network has A LOT more to cover than just one market and a handful of sports like FSN/BSN does. So they have very little flexibility compared to FSN/BSN. Starting late, cutting away... That is the deal when you have a national network with tons of different sports covering 14 schools.
They should start the 1st game of the day 1/2 hr or 1 hr earlier so the 2nd game can be shown without having coverage issues
I would be happy if they would just use the technology available to cater their programming to show games of regional interest. We all know the technology is available, because Fox and CBS do it all the time with the NFL.
It’s available, hell big ten network uses it for football, I’ve heard the cost is massive tho, so no chance they use an alternate channel for hockey, that would be amazing but it won’t happen.

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Norm wrote:
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Those 1/2 hour pregame shows with interviews definitely made me feel a connection to the players.
Would you accept them making the radio pregame a little more video friendly and letting that be your pregame show? It's what I listen to before every game.

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Nanne was on Barriero yesterday talking about how the Stars/Twins had their own network?? (Spectrum Sports??)Then Pohlad took over the Twins, Twins won world championship Pohlads first year, Stars missed playoffs and Pohlad bought out of the contract, Nanne said if he hadn’t done that the network would still be in business and would have the gophers and Timberwolves on it. Now I know Lou likes to talk, but still kinda interesting I thought.

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Nanne was on Barriero yesterday talking about how the Stars/Twins had their own network?? (Spectrum Sports??)Then Pohlad took over the Twins, Twins won world championship Pohlads first year, Stars missed playoffs and Pohlad bought out of the contract, Nanne said if he hadn’t done that the network would still be in business and would have the gophers and Timberwolves on it. Now I know Lou likes to talk, but still kinda interesting I thought.
I remember Spectrum from back in the day (1983?). They broadcast the Stars games but I don’t remember Twins games. Spectrum eventually became channel 23.
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Nanne said if he hadn’t done that the network would still be in business and would have the gophers and Timberwolves on it. Now I know Lou likes to talk, but still kinda interesting I thought.
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Dumb question here. On the Bally Sports Roku App I have the choice of watching the “Channel Stream” or the “Game Stream”. What’s the difference?
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Vegoe wrote:
Wed May 05 4:25 pm
Norm wrote:
Wed May 05 12:47 pm
Those 1/2 hour pregame shows with interviews definitely made me feel a connection to the players.
Would you accept them making the radio pregame a little more video friendly and letting that be your pregame show? It's what I listen to before every game.
Sure! I don't think we can expect any more.

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Zwak wrote:
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Dumb question here. On the Bally Sports Roku App I have the choice of watching the “Channel Stream” or the “Game Stream”. What’s the difference?
Looks like it's to be sure you get the whole game. Found this on Reddit:

"Channel Stream is your 24/7 live feed. The Channel Stream is regularly programmed feed, this includes games, events, and paid programming. Game Stream is a new feature that allows you to watch your team games in full from start to finish. The Game Stream allows you to watch without the worry of broadcasts cutting to their regularly scheduled programming. When there is a Live Game on the Channel Stream you will have the option to switch to the Game Stream to get the full experience."

I am seeing some comments that their app on Roku needs help, with Audio/Video not synced and other issues.
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Post by Zwak » Thu May 06 8:03 am

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Dumb question here. On the Bally Sports Roku App I have the choice of watching the “Channel Stream” or the “Game Stream”. What’s the difference?
Looks like it's to be sure you get the whole game. Found this on Reddit:

"Channel Stream is your 24/7 live feed. The Channel Stream is regularly programmed feed, this includes games, events, and paid programming. Game Stream is a new feature that allows you to watch your team games in full from start to finish. The Game Stream allows you to watch without the worry of broadcasts cutting to their regularly scheduled programming. When there is a Live Game on the Channel Stream you will have the option to switch to the Game Stream to get the full experience."

I am seeing some comments that their app on Roku needs help, with Audio/Video not synced and other issues.
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Post by frozen4champs » Mon May 10 7:21 pm

ESPN adds a couple of new hires for their hockey coverage.

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Looks like the key to a long life is working for the Strib.

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Post by frozen4champs » Fri May 14 3:10 pm

Great story on Kurtz, with an interesting tie to Gopher Hockey
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Post by Snowcool08 » Sat May 15 9:57 pm

Having a discussion with some friends and we realize we have no idea how much the local radio personalities make. Does anyone have an idea how much they make a year? On advertisements?

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Post by Beauner » Sat May 15 11:23 pm

Snowcool08 wrote:
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Having a discussion with some friends and we realize we have no idea how much the local radio personalities make. Does anyone have an idea how much they make a year? On advertisements?
I'd imagine the main personalities on KFAN make quite a bit on advertisements/endorsements. I heard somewhere a few years back that their base salary is in the 45-50k range and I'd guess the big personalities (Hawkey/Cove/Meatsauce/PA/Common/Barreiro) all probably match that at least in endorsements, and probably surpass it. I'd have to assume the side kick/producers (Nordo/Tenna B/Gaard) are probably a step or two behind that on endorsement deals.

I'd assume the KFAN personalities are making the most in the MN radio game at this point since they are routinely rated among the highest channels in the country (IIRC KFAN has been the highest rated sports talk network in the nation for the majority of the last 18 months.
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Post by gopher6 » Sun May 16 10:10 am

I was hearing on Kfan this am that Parise is not suiting up for todays Wild game

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