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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

Post by F Da Sue » Sun May 19 10:47 pm

So why Is the Night’s Watch still necessary?

Also, it has been reported that HBO was willing to give these guys all the time and money needed to finish the series properly. So why did the two of them cut down the last 2 seasons making these huge jumps and making everything feel rushed? Was it Disney telling them they needed to get working on their Star Wars duties ASAP?

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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

Post by Bonin21 » Sun May 19 10:49 pm

It's a simple math problem. You'll give me this much money times this many episodes. But each episode takes this much thinking, effort, and quality storytelling which we are not good at without a book to base it on. We have hopes to swindle millions out of other franchises before they also realize this. So we roll with a small amount of episodes for a big pay day and hope it isn't enough to expose the lack of quality. Unfortunately it was plenty.
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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

Post by Jane Fonda » Sun May 19 10:54 pm

gopherguy06 wrote:
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My take is he was taking the Wildlings North. Not bailing
He wasn't bailing. I think he was escorting the free folk north, and also investigating the status of any whote walkers north of the wall, and trying to learn more about them.

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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

Post by Bonin21 » Sun May 19 10:55 pm

Status of the white walkers? What hahaha
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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

Post by Jane Fonda » Sun May 19 10:56 pm

Bonin21 wrote:
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Status of the white walkers? What hahaha
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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

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Jane Fonda wrote:
Sun May 19 10:54 pm
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Sun May 19 10:41 pm
My take is he was taking the Wildlings North. Not bailing
He wasn't bailing. I think he was escorting the free folk north, and also investigating the status of any whote walkers north of the wall, and trying to learn more about them.
Yeah, that's what I said. Not bailing and taking Wildlings north. But perhaps he just says screw it and goes with tormund and ghost.
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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

Post by F Da Sue » Sun May 19 11:00 pm

Jane Fonda wrote:
Sun May 19 10:54 pm
gopherguy06 wrote:
Sun May 19 10:41 pm
My take is he was taking the Wildlings North. Not bailing
He wasn't bailing. I think he was escorting the free folk north, and also investigating the status of any whote walkers north of the wall, and trying to learn more about them.
Then why did he turn around and have that long look back at the gate closing?

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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

Post by Bonin21 » Sun May 19 11:04 pm

If you're going to throw out a completely random plot twist like somehow there are WW living beyond the wall still, it explains why you thought the random stupidity of this season was actually better than something you'd see on channels grandma would get with her old antenna.
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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

Post by gopherguy13 » Sun May 19 11:06 pm

Bonin21 wrote:
Sun May 19 10:55 pm
Status of the white walkers? What hahaha
... What?

Does Jon know for certain that there aren't any left? He can maybe assume that there aren't any left, but do you really think Jon is just going to sit at the wall and be like "nah, there's probably not any left, I'm sure it's fine..."
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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

Post by gopherguy06 » Sun May 19 11:07 pm

That's how the show started too. North of the wall

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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

Post by Karlsson » Sun May 19 11:10 pm

Bonin21 wrote:
Sun May 19 10:55 pm
Status of the white walkers? What hahaha
You are awfully invested in something you think is stupid. Any time some one posts something that doesn't serve your wet blanket attitude you make a childish post like the one above.

Seeming you keep doing it over and over and over again, I'm forced to believe you think you're original and funny. You are neither.

Do not take this to mean there can be no dissension. Quite the opposite. Put forth a coherent argument as to why all of it sucks, instead of just trolling.

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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

Post by Bonin21 » Sun May 19 11:15 pm

Karlsson wrote:
Sun May 19 11:10 pm
Bonin21 wrote:
Sun May 19 10:55 pm
Status of the white walkers? What hahaha
You are awfully invested in something you think is stupid. Any time some one posts something that doesn't serve your wet blanket attitude you make a childish post like the one above.

Seeming you keep doing it over and over and over again, I'm forced to believe you think you're original and funny. You are neither.

Do not take this to mean there can be no dissension. Quite the opposite. Put forth a coherent argument as to why all of it sucks, instead of just trolling.
I was certainly invested in what I believed to be the best show of all time before this season started. And like millions of others, I'm left with basically no emotion at all at the ending.

I put it in the top five all time series I've seen. That's very respectable. Chernobyl has earned the attention that is now up for grabs across the globe. Let's see what they do with it.
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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

Post by gopherguy13 » Sun May 19 11:15 pm

This was the weakest season of the show's run, but I think they did a good job wrapping things up. Loved Arya sailing west to continue her journey. She's seen more of the world than almost anyone, and now she's going to blaze trails further west.

On Jon killing Dany... At first I thought the dragon was going to burn Jon, only to have Jon come away unburned. I'm wondering if Drogon knows that Jon is a Targaryen based on the fact that he could ride Rhaegal. Burning the Throne made for interesting symbolism, but I question why Drogon did it. Is it possible that dragons can be that nuanced and recognize that chair as a/THE Throne? Seems farfetched, but I suppose anything is possible.

Bronn just walking into a cabinet position seemed like fan service.

I think it held to the "bittersweet" ending that we were promised. The bitterness being Dany's descent and ultimate demise. And then the Starks ending up in their various positions of power. It had a bit of a storybook vibe, but not over the top.
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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

Post by Jane Fonda » Sun May 19 11:19 pm

F Da Sue wrote:
Sun May 19 11:00 pm
Jane Fonda wrote:
Sun May 19 10:54 pm
gopherguy06 wrote:
Sun May 19 10:41 pm
My take is he was taking the Wildlings North. Not bailing
He wasn't bailing. I think he was escorting the free folk north, and also investigating the status of any whote walkers north of the wall, and trying to learn more about them.
Then why did he turn around and have that long look back at the gate closing?
Didn't he do the same thing in season 2? It was a call back to that. After all that happened, he's back to where he began.

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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

Post by F Da Sue » Sun May 19 11:21 pm

Why would Bronn even want a cabinet position after he’s just been given Highgarden?

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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

Post by Karlsson » Sun May 19 11:22 pm

F Da Sue wrote:
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Why would Bronn even want a cabinet position after he’s just been given Highgarden?
He's the master of coin. That's why it is right up his alley.

I think it is perfect that he's in the position Baelish was.
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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

Post by Jane Fonda » Sun May 19 11:23 pm

gopherguy13 wrote:
Sun May 19 11:06 pm
Bonin21 wrote:
Sun May 19 10:55 pm
Status of the white walkers? What hahaha
... What?

Does Jon know for certain that there aren't any left? He can maybe assume that there aren't any left, but do you really think Jon is just going to sit at the wall and be like "nah, there's probably not any left, I'm sure it's fine..."
It would be incredibly irresponsible for the new Lord Commander to not go investigate the enemy that just almost destroyed the entire world. May want to know where they came from, and if they're still a threat...just maybe? Really shouldn't seem like a stretch to anyone paying attention.

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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

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F Da Sue wrote:
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Why would Bronn even want a cabinet position after he’s just been given Highgarden?
Kings Landing has better whores than Highgarden...well they did, before Drogon burned them all.

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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

Post by gopherguy13 » Sun May 19 11:45 pm

Oh I also lol'd at the random unnamed guy from Dorne at that council meeting. It was like D&D just wanted to acknowledge "Oh yeah Dorne still exists, we didn't forget about them" :lol:
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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

Post by Jane Fonda » Sun May 19 11:51 pm

gopherguy13 wrote:
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Oh I also lol'd at the random unnamed guy from Dorne at that council meeting. It was like D&D just wanted to acknowledge "Oh yeah Dorne still exists, we didn't forget about them" :lol:
At least they had mentioned him in a previous episode, but who the hell knows who he actually is. Dorne has been mishandled in the show for everything post Oberyn.

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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

Post by F Da Sue » Sun May 19 11:58 pm

So Sam gets to be a maester even though they aren’t allowed to have children? Also, why doesn’t he have to go back to the night’s watch?
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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

Post by Karlsson » Sun May 19 11:58 pm

The reason I'm okay with the ending is because things just didn't work out for whomever killed Daenerys. I was afraid that the Dothraki and Unsullied would automatically serve the perp. They didn't, so that's good. Him living seems like a stretch, because cooler heads seemed you be imprisoned or dead already. It was a very good move to not execute Jon, but who was around to advise them not to other than relatives?

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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

Post by ScoobyDoo » Mon May 20 8:13 am

gopherguy06 wrote:
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My take is he was taking the Wildlings North. Not bailing
He bailed. He's gone North and he's never coming back.
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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

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F Da Sue wrote:
Sun May 19 10:47 pm
So why Is the Night’s Watch still necessary?

Also, it has been reported that HBO was willing to give these guys all the time and money needed to finish the series properly. So why did the two of them cut down the last 2 seasons making these huge jumps and making everything feel rushed? Was it Disney telling them they needed to get working on their Star Wars duties ASAP?
I read a theory that we don't see anyone from the Night's Watch and he went up there and left with only Wildlings (women, men and children). He even asked Tyrion if there was still one.

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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

Post by ScoobyDoo » Mon May 20 8:19 am

gopherguy06 wrote:
Mon May 20 8:13 am
F Da Sue wrote:
Sun May 19 10:47 pm
So why Is the Night’s Watch still necessary?

Also, it has been reported that HBO was willing to give these guys all the time and money needed to finish the series properly. So why did the two of them cut down the last 2 seasons making these huge jumps and making everything feel rushed? Was it Disney telling them they needed to get working on their Star Wars duties ASAP?
I read a theory that we don't see anyone from the Night's Watch and he went up there and left with only Wildlings (women, men and children). He even asked Tyrion if there was still one.
They tricked the Unsullied/Dothracki so Jon could live. He'll live out his days up North with the Wildings. He will marry. He will have children.
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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

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ScoobyDoo wrote:
Mon May 20 8:19 am
gopherguy06 wrote:
Mon May 20 8:13 am
F Da Sue wrote:
Sun May 19 10:47 pm
So why Is the Night’s Watch still necessary?

Also, it has been reported that HBO was willing to give these guys all the time and money needed to finish the series properly. So why did the two of them cut down the last 2 seasons making these huge jumps and making everything feel rushed? Was it Disney telling them they needed to get working on their Star Wars duties ASAP?
I read a theory that we don't see anyone from the Night's Watch and he went up there and left with only Wildlings (women, men and children). He even asked Tyrion if there was still one.
They tricked the Unsullied/Dothracki so Jon could live. He'll live out his days up North with the Wildings. He will marry. He will have children.
Interesting take and didn't think about that. Tyrion knew there wasn't a Night's Watch and used it as a way to go up there, but then later when Arya mentioned it, no one else knew?

The Unsullied were executing Lannisters in the street, but the man who killed their queen was left unharmed and put in jail. With how unhinged Greyworm was and the Dorthraki's behavior, I am surprised he lived at all.

Btw, how do they know he killed her? Did he confess? The dragon left with the body, how do they know anything even happened?

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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

Post by fishingmn » Mon May 20 9:51 am

Final king's council of 6 includes Bran, Bronn and Brienne - seems like a lot of possible confusion going forward
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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

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gopherguy13 wrote:
Sun May 19 11:15 pm
This was the weakest season of the show's run, but I think they did a good job wrapping things up. Loved Arya sailing west to continue her journey. She's seen more of the world than almost anyone, and now she's going to blaze trails further west.

On Jon killing Dany... At first I thought the dragon was going to burn Jon, only to have Jon come away unburned. I'm wondering if Drogon knows that Jon is a Targaryen based on the fact that he could ride Rhaegal. Burning the Throne made for interesting symbolism, but I question why Drogon did it. Is it possible that dragons can be that nuanced and recognize that chair as a/THE Throne? Seems farfetched, but I suppose anything is possible.

Bronn just walking into a cabinet position seemed like fan service.

I think it held to the "bittersweet" ending that we were promised. The bitterness being Dany's descent and ultimate demise. And then the Starks ending up in their various positions of power. It had a bit of a storybook vibe, but not over the top.
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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

Post by kmd » Mon May 20 10:34 am

gopherguy06 wrote:
Mon May 20 9:30 am
ScoobyDoo wrote:
Mon May 20 8:19 am
gopherguy06 wrote:
Mon May 20 8:13 am
F Da Sue wrote:
Sun May 19 10:47 pm
So why Is the Night’s Watch still necessary?

Also, it has been reported that HBO was willing to give these guys all the time and money needed to finish the series properly. So why did the two of them cut down the last 2 seasons making these huge jumps and making everything feel rushed? Was it Disney telling them they needed to get working on their Star Wars duties ASAP?
I read a theory that we don't see anyone from the Night's Watch and he went up there and left with only Wildlings (women, men and children). He even asked Tyrion if there was still one.
They tricked the Unsullied/Dothracki so Jon could live. He'll live out his days up North with the Wildings. He will marry. He will have children.
Interesting take and didn't think about that. Tyrion knew there wasn't a Night's Watch and used it as a way to go up there, but then later when Arya mentioned it, no one else knew?

The Unsullied were executing Lannisters in the street, but the man who killed their queen was left unharmed and put in jail. With how unhinged Greyworm was and the Dorthraki's behavior, I am surprised he lived at all.

Btw, how do they know he killed her? Did he confess? The dragon left with the body, how do they know anything even happened?
Grey Worm also probably would have been aware there wasn't really a Night's Watch left. They all got pulled back for the Battle of Winterfell, Edd died in battle, etc.

Best part of that scene was Jon leaves Grey Worm executing Lannisters, makes a beeline to Dany giving her speech on the steps, meets Grey Worm standing by her side.

It's at least in character that Jon would have been an idiot and told them.

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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

Post by gopherguy06 » Mon May 20 10:38 am

kmd wrote:
Mon May 20 10:34 am
gopherguy06 wrote:
Mon May 20 9:30 am
ScoobyDoo wrote:
Mon May 20 8:19 am
gopherguy06 wrote:
Mon May 20 8:13 am
F Da Sue wrote:
Sun May 19 10:47 pm
So why Is the Night’s Watch still necessary?

Also, it has been reported that HBO was willing to give these guys all the time and money needed to finish the series properly. So why did the two of them cut down the last 2 seasons making these huge jumps and making everything feel rushed? Was it Disney telling them they needed to get working on their Star Wars duties ASAP?
I read a theory that we don't see anyone from the Night's Watch and he went up there and left with only Wildlings (women, men and children). He even asked Tyrion if there was still one.
They tricked the Unsullied/Dothracki so Jon could live. He'll live out his days up North with the Wildings. He will marry. He will have children.
Interesting take and didn't think about that. Tyrion knew there wasn't a Night's Watch and used it as a way to go up there, but then later when Arya mentioned it, no one else knew?

The Unsullied were executing Lannisters in the street, but the man who killed their queen was left unharmed and put in jail. With how unhinged Greyworm was and the Dorthraki's behavior, I am surprised he lived at all.

Btw, how do they know he killed her? Did he confess? The dragon left with the body, how do they know anything even happened?
Grey Worm also probably would have been aware there wasn't really a Night's Watch left. They all got pulled back for the Battle of Winterfell, Edd died in battle, etc.

Best part of that scene was Jon leaves Grey Worm executing Lannisters, makes a beeline to Dany giving her speech on the steps, meets Grey Worm standing by her side.

It's at least in character that Jon would have been an idiot and told them.
Yeah, I was like, did he kill her and be like, I need to be honest, I did it.

I laughed when he saw them killing Lannisters in the streets, then made his way to the stairs and Greyworm made his way there quickly.

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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

Post by ScoobyDoo » Mon May 20 10:44 am

kmd wrote:
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Grey Worm also probably would have been aware there wasn't really a Night's Watch left.
No. Assumes facts not in evidence.
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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

Post by Chris83 » Mon May 20 11:39 am

Personally, I thought it was a decent wrap-up. Not "epic", but I liked it. And getting to see Ghost one last time was a plus for me.
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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

Post by mjarz02 » Mon May 20 12:00 pm

After what Jon went through, I think he is looking for that simple life. He never wanted to be king. Only wanted to lead because he had to. Maybe one day when they need him again, they will know where to find him.

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Re: Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

Post by gopherguy13 » Mon May 20 1:15 pm

streakygopher wrote:
Mon May 20 10:19 am
gopherguy13 wrote:
Sun May 19 11:15 pm
This was the weakest season of the show's run, but I think they did a good job wrapping things up. Loved Arya sailing west to continue her journey. She's seen more of the world than almost anyone, and now she's going to blaze trails further west.

On Jon killing Dany... At first I thought the dragon was going to burn Jon, only to have Jon come away unburned. I'm wondering if Drogon knows that Jon is a Targaryen based on the fact that he could ride Rhaegal. Burning the Throne made for interesting symbolism, but I question why Drogon did it. Is it possible that dragons can be that nuanced and recognize that chair as a/THE Throne? Seems farfetched, but I suppose anything is possible.

Bronn just walking into a cabinet position seemed like fan service.

I think it held to the "bittersweet" ending that we were promised. The bitterness being Dany's descent and ultimate demise. And then the Starks ending up in their various positions of power. It had a bit of a storybook vibe, but not over the top.
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I mean, after the bolded section I literally said "anything is possible"... :lol:

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Post by streakygopher » Mon May 20 1:43 pm

gopherguy13 wrote:
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streakygopher wrote:
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This was the weakest season of the show's run, but I think they did a good job wrapping things up. Loved Arya sailing west to continue her journey. She's seen more of the world than almost anyone, and now she's going to blaze trails further west.

On Jon killing Dany... At first I thought the dragon was going to burn Jon, only to have Jon come away unburned. I'm wondering if Drogon knows that Jon is a Targaryen based on the fact that he could ride Rhaegal. Burning the Throne made for interesting symbolism, but I question why Drogon did it. Is it possible that dragons can be that nuanced and recognize that chair as a/THE Throne? Seems farfetched, but I suppose anything is possible.

Bronn just walking into a cabinet position seemed like fan service.

I think it held to the "bittersweet" ending that we were promised. The bitterness being Dany's descent and ultimate demise. And then the Starks ending up in their various positions of power. It had a bit of a storybook vibe, but not over the top.
Believe in dragons = Ok. :dup:

Accept that he knows what a throne is = Yeah right! :ddown:
I mean, after the bolded section I literally said "anything is possible"... :lol:

I'm just trying to think of a time that they demonstrated that level of intuitiveness without Dany controlling them, and I can't come up with one. I'm willing to accept it; it just caught me off guard.
Not to mention the dragon carried off Dany to parts unknown, so it obviously has some kind of brain.

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BB already and rightfully passes GoT on the IMDB Top TV list. What a failure and disappointment by D&D. Last post in this thread for me.
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It's been confirmed that a prequel "Blood Moon" has already started shooting its pilot.

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Kelly Red wrote:
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BB already and rightfully passes GoT on the IMDB Top TV list. What a failure and disappointment by D&D. Last post in this thread for me.


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Jane Fonda wrote:
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BB already and rightfully passes GoT on the IMDB Top TV list. What a failure and disappointment by D&D. Last post in this thread for me.


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MinnesotaNorthStar wrote:
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Mon May 20 5:45 pm
Kelly Red wrote:
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BB already and rightfully passes GoT on the IMDB Top TV list. What a failure and disappointment by D&D. Last post in this thread for me.


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Good Riddance.


I don't think I've ever seen someone take a TV show so seriously...


To whom are you referring? :lol:

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Post by Beauner » Tue May 21 7:59 am

I think part of the reason I enjoyed the season as much as I did is because of the way everything was tied in back to previous episodes.
Arya when training for the faceless men asked Lady Crane what was West of Westeros. Tormund telling Jon he's got "the real north" in him. The foreshadowing from Danaerys's visions in the House of the Undying. Brienne filling in Jaime's story in the Lord Commander of the Kings Guard book when Joffrey made fun of him for having no achievements. Tyrion appealing to Jon the way Varys tried to appeal to Ned (using Sansa and Arya). The joke Bronn made about Davos being Master of Grammar (after Stannis corrected Davos constantly for his grammar) was pretty brilliant.
And that was just in the finale.

Things like that may be missed/forgotten if you haven't watched every episode 3-4-5 (or more) times like I have. 🤷‍♂️
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Beauner wrote:
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I think part of the reason I enjoyed the season as much as I did is because of the way everything was tied in back to previous episodes.
Arya when training for the faceless men asked Lady Crane what was West of Westeros. Tormund telling Jon he's got "the real north" in him. The foreshadowing from Danaerys's visions in the House of the Undying. Brienne filling in Jaime's story in the Lord Commander of the Kings Guard book when Joffrey made fun of him for having no achievements. Tyrion appealing to Jon the way Varys tried to appeal to Ned (using Sansa and Arya). The joke Bronn made about Davos being Master of Grammar (after Stannis corrected Davos constantly for his grammar) was pretty brilliant.
And that was just in the finale.

Things like that may be missed/forgotten if you haven't watched every episode 3-4-5 (or more) times like I have. 🤷‍♂️
They connected alot of themes in the episode, which was rewarding to see. I think this is why I liked the episode. There were issues with these last 2 seasons, and the frustrating part, for me, is that many of the things that bugged me were easily fixed. But, I'm glad that the overall story arc made sense, and worked like it should have.

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ScoobyDoo wrote:
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So why Is the Night’s Watch still necessary?

Also, it has been reported that HBO was willing to give these guys all the time and money needed to finish the series properly. So why did the two of them cut down the last 2 seasons making these huge jumps and making everything feel rushed? Was it Disney telling them they needed to get working on their Star Wars duties ASAP?
I read a theory that we don't see anyone from the Night's Watch and he went up there and left with only Wildlings (women, men and children). He even asked Tyrion if there was still one.
They tricked the Unsullied/Dothracki so Jon could live. He'll live out his days up North with the Wildings. He will marry. He will have children.
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https://deadspin.com/aaron-rodgers-real ... 1834931077

Aaron Rodgers thinks the GOT finale was BS so now I'm totally fine with it
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Bigbeer wrote:
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https://deadspin.com/aaron-rodgers-real ... 1834931077

Aaron Rodgers thinks the GOT finale was BS so now I'm totally fine with it
He did make a good point about Bran manipulating things, though... (I know... I just agreed with Aaron Rodgers, and I feel dirty for it, but I think he's right)

Good thing this was fantasy, not science fiction, the wild violations of causality inherent in the Three Eyed Raven would really bug me.
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Post by ScoobyDoo » Wed May 22 9:20 am

Bigbeer wrote:
Tue May 21 9:43 pm
ScoobyDoo wrote:
Mon May 20 8:19 am
gopherguy06 wrote:
Mon May 20 8:13 am
F Da Sue wrote:
Sun May 19 10:47 pm
So why Is the Night’s Watch still necessary?

Also, it has been reported that HBO was willing to give these guys all the time and money needed to finish the series properly. So why did the two of them cut down the last 2 seasons making these huge jumps and making everything feel rushed? Was it Disney telling them they needed to get working on their Star Wars duties ASAP?
I read a theory that we don't see anyone from the Night's Watch and he went up there and left with only Wildlings (women, men and children). He even asked Tyrion if there was still one.
They tricked the Unsullied/Dothracki so Jon could live. He'll live out his days up North with the Wildings. He will marry. He will have children.
Wildlings don’t marry
Then he'll do whatever the Wildings do. Whatever their equivalent is.
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Summer 2020 is the new deadline for the next book...

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Summer 2020 is the new deadline for the next book...

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Vegoe wrote:
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Watching the Game of Thrones: The Last Watch documentary thing.

Seeing the reaction of the people at the final table read is pretty crazy.
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Beauner wrote:
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Watching the Game of Thrones: The Last Watch documentary thing.

Seeing the reaction of the people at the final table read is pretty crazy.
I knew there was something I wanted to watch last night. I'll need to track that down in on-demand or something.
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It was pretty obvious that Kit Harington did not read the script ahead of the table read. He was dumbfounded by what was happening. It was funny hearing some of the set designers complain that the show got too big and they could barely hold it together.

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Snowcool08 wrote:
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It was pretty obvious that Kit Harington did not read the script ahead of the table read. He was dumbfounded by what was happening. It was funny hearing some of the set designers complain that the show got too big and they could barely hold it together.
Did not realize they basically re-built the entire city of Dubrovnik (King's Landing) for episode 5 so they could actually destroy it.

Was pretty interesting to see Conleth Hill's reaction to Varys' fate too. He was definitely fighting back tears.
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Yeah they didn't want to have spoilers from drones or leaks from the season so rebuilt in a studio.

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Beauner wrote:
Mon May 27 11:50 am
Snowcool08 wrote:
Mon May 27 11:22 am
It was pretty obvious that Kit Harington did not read the script ahead of the table read. He was dumbfounded by what was happening. It was funny hearing some of the set designers complain that the show got too big and they could barely hold it together.
Did not realize they basically re-built the entire city of Dubrovnik (King's Landing) for episode 5 so they could actually destroy it.

Was pretty interesting to see Conleth Hill's reaction to Varys' fate too. He was definitely fighting back tears.
I could have watched a two hour show of them reading that final script. Conleth Hill did not want to read it. He just closed the script and pushed it away.

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Steve MN wrote:
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Watching the Game of Thrones: The Last Watch documentary thing.

Seeing the reaction of the people at the final table read is pretty crazy.
I knew there was something I wanted to watch last night. I'll need to track that down in on-demand or something.
It is on again in 15 minutes and again tomorrow night at 9pm. I'm sure it is on demand too.
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Beauner wrote:
Mon May 27 11:50 am
Snowcool08 wrote:
Mon May 27 11:22 am
It was pretty obvious that Kit Harington did not read the script ahead of the table read. He was dumbfounded by what was happening. It was funny hearing some of the set designers complain that the show got too big and they could barely hold it together.
Did not realize they basically re-built the entire city of Dubrovnik (King's Landing) for episode 5 so they could actually destroy it.

Was pretty interesting to see Conleth Hill's reaction to Varys' fate too. He was definitely fighting back tears.
I read an interview with Emilia Clarke where she said she did read it beforehand but Kit did not, thus her and his reactions. Supposedly Hill was not happy about how his character was killed.
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Bigbeer wrote:
Mon May 27 6:19 pm
Beauner wrote:
Mon May 27 11:50 am
Snowcool08 wrote:
Mon May 27 11:22 am
It was pretty obvious that Kit Harington did not read the script ahead of the table read. He was dumbfounded by what was happening. It was funny hearing some of the set designers complain that the show got too big and they could barely hold it together.
Did not realize they basically re-built the entire city of Dubrovnik (King's Landing) for episode 5 so they could actually destroy it.

Was pretty interesting to see Conleth Hill's reaction to Varys' fate too. He was definitely fighting back tears.
I read an interview with Emilia Clarke where she said she did read it beforehand but Kit did not, thus her and his reactions. Supposedly Hill was not happy about how his character was killed.
I'd imagine there were a lot of actors who were not happy with how their character met their end. Would have been really interesting to see this type of thing for each season. Can you imagine the reactions for the Red Wedding etc.?
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Post by Snowcool08 » Mon May 27 10:08 pm

There was a book for the Red Wedding and Purple Wedding. They had to have known it was coming. Here there was no book or previous story.

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There was a book for the Red Wedding and Purple Wedding. They had to have known it was coming. Here there was no book or previous story.
Right but how many of these actors had read the books?
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Beauner wrote:
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Snowcool08 wrote:
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There was a book for the Red Wedding and Purple Wedding. They had to have known it was coming. Here there was no book or previous story.
Right but how many of these actors had read the books?
GRRM made comments about this way back when. He kinda scoffed at the actors that didn't read the books and were surprised when their character died.

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Post by Jane Fonda » Tue May 28 12:39 am

Rebuilding the entire Dubrovnik set was required...i doubt anyone would have let them burn down the actual city of Dubrovnik.

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Bigbeer wrote:
Mon May 27 6:19 pm
Beauner wrote:
Mon May 27 11:50 am
Snowcool08 wrote:
Mon May 27 11:22 am
It was pretty obvious that Kit Harington did not read the script ahead of the table read. He was dumbfounded by what was happening. It was funny hearing some of the set designers complain that the show got too big and they could barely hold it together.
Did not realize they basically re-built the entire city of Dubrovnik (King's Landing) for episode 5 so they could actually destroy it.

Was pretty interesting to see Conleth Hill's reaction to Varys' fate too. He was definitely fighting back tears.
I read an interview with Emilia Clarke where she said she did read it beforehand but Kit did not, thus her and his reactions. Supposedly Hill was not happy about how his character was killed.
Hill was also openly critical of how his character was used the last couple of seasons.

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Hill was also openly critical of how his character was used the last couple of seasons.
Tough to portray a manipulator and a schemer when you're showing a freight train with no breaks careening towards a brick wall... Varys seemed to be a master of 'soft power' and soft power got squeezed out when three dragons and tens of thousands of Dothraki screamers showed up. The complaint I had was that his coup attempts were clumsier than anything the character would have done except as an absolute last resort and the brevity of the last two (and a half) seasons prevented showing any but the last resort.

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Interesting that at the table read the show / series ended with Jon killing Dany.

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F Da Sue wrote:
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Interesting that at the table read the show / series ended with Jon killing Dany.
I don't think it did. Felt like there was some editing done there.

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Karlsson wrote:
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Tue May 28 4:50 pm
Interesting that at the table read the show / series ended with Jon killing Dany.
I don't think it did. Felt like there was some editing done there.
Yes there was. I’m sure they didn’t want to show Dinklage reading in disbelief that they made his character a complete idiot.

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Kit Harrington has apparently checked into rehab for stress, exhaustion and alcohol. Sounds like the last few years were tough.

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Not terribly surprised. He's gotten into a few scraps in Belfast pubs over the past couple years.

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