Potential Future Recruits - Part II

by **SiouxFanatic** » Tue 8/30/11 11:03 pm

To be honest, I don't really see Hudson Fasching committing to any other team but Minnesota. While it'd be awesome to see him play for UND...I just don't see him doing that when I'm guessing he'd probably rather play hockey close to home. Though him playing for the U.S. NTDP does give a sliver of a chance I suppose.

by **Iceburg** » Tue 9/06/11 1:09 pm

Shattuck posts their ROSTER for this season's Tier 1 bantam team. Rem Pitlick, one of the top '97 birth year players in the area is on it. Rem is quite a bit different from father Lance or cousin Tyler as he is a smaller "waterbug" type forward. He played for the Wayzata bantem team this past season.

by **Maize** » Tue 9/06/11 2:08 pm

Iceburg wrote:Shattuck posts their ROSTER for this season's Tier 1 bantam team. Rem Pitlick, one of the top '97 birth year players in the area is on it. Rem is quite a bit different from father Lance or cousin Tyler as he is a smaller "waterbug" type forward. He played for the Wayzata bantem team this past season.

Andrew Picco and Nathan Noel are supposed to be two top players from Canada to watch out for as well. Prior Lake's Tyler Bump is on that team too. That should be an excellent team.

by **Boodah06** » Tue 9/06/11 2:47 pm

Colin Saccomann is from Mahtomedi, but hasn't played organized MN regular season hockey here since squirts. Has played for the 97 Blades (previous MN Machine) in the last few offseasons and WI Fire AAA during regular season the last few years. Haven't been able to watch him because of the playing everywhere except here....

by **WestCoastGopherGuy** » Thu 9/08/11 9:03 pm

when is the last time the gophers had a guy commit? was it michaelson?? seems like its been too long.. maybe one of these days ill sign on and see lucia, cammarata and fasching have commited to the U.

edited- I guess kloos would have been halfway recently..

Dave

by **spring break** » Fri 9/09/11 3:23 pm

Some people I know hang out at a Dinky Town Restaurant. The owner there says Cammarata will anounce later this month where he will be playing and going to school in 2013. However no body knows what college he will be commiting to. However the Gopher staff seem to think he will be going to the U of Minnesota. But he has been seen visiting UND very

recently.

by **Hammy** » Fri 9/09/11 6:43 pm

Two posts and both on Taylor Cammarata. I guess you must be a big fan of his?

Everything I hear from a variety of different sources (connected to the Gophers and outside of the program) has the Gophers in a very good position to land Cammarata. So I think we are in pretty good shape there. We'll see.

by **Iceburg** » Mon 9/12/11 10:39 am

Hockey season is upon us. The NAHL and Elite League start their seasons over the weekend (I saw Mike Guentzel on Sunday at New Hope), Penticton splits a couple of exhibition games (GAME ONE, GAME TWO) and the NTDP U-17 team starts their season with a couple of losses (GAME ONE, GAME TWO)

by **Plante_26** » Tue 9/13/11 12:32 pm

Heisenberg reporting that Edina's Louie Nanne has committed to Minnesota.

by **LeoPohl** » Tue 9/13/11 1:47 pm

Plante_26 wrote:Heisenberg reporting that Edina's Louie Nanne has committed to Minnesota.

You're a little late. :wink:

Committed Recruits Thread.

by **jason** » Wed 9/14/11 10:01 am

What do you guys think for former Gopher Grant Bischoff's son Jake? He's a junior defensemen at Grand Rapids this year and is on Team North in the Elite league. IMO, He looked like a 3 year varsity player as a sophmore last season. His goal vs. Edina is in this video about halfway through. Awesome Minnesota HS hockey highlight video, about 15 min. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXPBRY-UlKk

by **Zwak** » Wed 9/14/11 11:14 am

jason wrote:What do you guys think for former Gopher Grant Bischoff's son Jake? He's a junior defensemen at Grand Rapids this year and is on Team North in the Elite league. IMO, He looked like a 3 year varsity player as a sophmore last season. His goal vs. Edina is in this video about halfway through. Awesome Minnesota HS hockey highlight video, about 15 min. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXPBRY-UlKk

All I know is that it is making me feel old hearing about players I watched play for the gophers now having kids who are getting attention (Bischoff, Nanne, Pitlick)

by **LeoPohl** » Wed 9/14/11 2:03 pm

Zwak wrote:
jason wrote:What do you guys think for former Gopher Grant Bischoff's son Jake? He's a junior defensemen at Grand Rapids this year and is on Team North in the Elite league. IMO, He looked like a 3 year varsity player as a sophmore last season. His goal vs. Edina is in this video about halfway through. Awesome Minnesota HS hockey highlight video, about 15 min. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXPBRY-UlKk

All I know is that it is making me feel old hearing about players I watched play for the gophers now having kids who are getting attention (Bischoff, Nanne, Pitlick)

It makes me feel like a Sioux fan. :mrgreen:

by **Feisty Golden Rodents** » Thu 9/22/11 7:23 pm

My colleague, which his son plays on Under-17 NTDP, told me today that Fasching is visiting Harvard and Cornell in the near future. Nothing about a visit to MN yet.

by **Hammy** » Thu 9/22/11 7:27 pm

Fasching has already visited the Gophers. He was in before he left for Ann Arbor.

by **Feisty Golden Rodents** » Thu 9/22/11 7:36 pm

Hammy wrote:Fasching has already visited the Gophers. He was in before he left for Ann Arbor.

Thats good news. I figured it would be a matter of time. It must of been very recent. I was at Macy's in Burnsville Center the last weekend of August or 1st weekend of september (can't remember) and the Fasching family was in front of me at the checkout line. I didn't know it at first but the dad look very recognizable. It hit me when he looked at Hudson and said "when your in Ann Arbor you can only shop at Target"

by **Hammy** » Thu 9/22/11 8:42 pm

I don't know when exactly it was. I just know it happened before Fasching left. The person who told me is impeccable.

Potulny is down at the USHL Fall Classic right now. I suspect one of the other coaches will be down there soon.

More to come...

by **Hammy** » Fri 9/23/11 10:54 am

Beyond just the Goph recruits in Penticton, people here may want to pay closer attention to the BCHL this season. Could be more than just those guys heading our direction from that league.

by **sb24** » Fri 9/23/11 12:21 pm

Hammy wrote:I don't know when exactly it was. I just know it happened before Fasching left. The person who told me is impeccable.

Potulny is down at the USHL Fall Classic right now. I suspect one of the other coaches will be down there soon.

More to come...

More to come... Like Cammarata will be committing soon?

by **FargoSiouxHater** » Fri 9/23/11 4:09 pm

sb24 wrote:
Hammy wrote:I don't know when exactly it was. I just know it happened before Fasching left. The person who told me is impeccable.

Potulny is down at the USHL Fall Classic right now. I suspect one of the other coaches will be down there soon.

More to come...

More to come... Like Cammarata will be committing soon?

Or Guertler....or both?

by **BlueBandit24** » Fri 9/23/11 4:26 pm

FargoSiouxHater wrote:
sb24 wrote:
Hammy wrote:I don't know when exactly it was. I just know it happened before Fasching left. The person who told me is impeccable.

Potulny is down at the USHL Fall Classic right now. I suspect one of the other coaches will be down there soon.

More to come...

More to come... Like Cammarata will be committing soon?

Or Guertler....or both?

We might be getting greedy now. :-o

The last few weeks have generated more positive buzz for the Gophers than I can remember in a long time. The past few years it seems that any news has been bad news. I hope this continues.

by **Hammy** » Fri 9/23/11 6:09 pm

Boy... you guys are greedy!

I hear a lot of positive things with recruiting right now. But we'll see how it pans out. Blue Bandit is right... there is a lot of positive momentum.

by **WestCoastGopherGuy** » Fri 9/23/11 8:18 pm

good to hear Hammy.

.. i know cammaratas playing for waterloo.. but was he offered a spot on the NTDP u17??

Dave

by **Hammy** » Mon 9/26/11 3:48 pm

sb24 wrote:
Hammy wrote:I don't know when exactly it was. I just know it happened before Fasching left. The person who told me is impeccable.

Potulny is down at the USHL Fall Classic right now. I suspect one of the other coaches will be down there soon.

More to come...

More to come... Like Cammarata will be committing soon?

I think you now can see why I said more to come... :wink:

As for Cammarata, I think there will be something coming down the pike with that. But we'll see. Heard he may have gotten a little dinged up at the Fall Classic. Not sure if it is anything major though. Kind of doubt it since we'd probably have heard if it was something extensive.

by **spring break** » Mon 9/26/11 5:20 pm

Hammy that was Cameranesi not Cammarata who was dinged up, get your facts strait! You claim I am a expert on Cammarata, I just don't want to see him end up with the Gophers. :dance:

by **Hammy** » Mon 9/26/11 6:25 pm

spring break wrote:Hammy that was Cameranesi not Cammarata who was dinged up, get your facts strait! You claim I am a expert on Cammarata, I just don't want to see him end up with the Gophers.

The possibility that he got dinged up was passed along to me by somebody that was at the Fall Classic. If it is incorrect, I don't think it is that big of a deal. I'd rather he be healthy than not.

Good luck on your last sentence. :mrgreen:

by **WestCoastGopherGuy** » Fri 9/30/11 11:22 pm

can we get vinni lettieri to recruit for the gophers? between guertler.. maybe cammarata and this "Mackinnon9 Nathan Mackinnon@TheGreat8Ovy thanks brother, congrats on committing to the gophers!! I miss you".. i think Don needs to get vinni a job behind the bench.

Dave

by **Hammy** » Fri 9/30/11 11:59 pm

MacKinnon was at a Gopher game last winter with Cammarata and some other Shattuck kids. But he's playing in the QMJHL so he won't be coming to NCAA ranks.

by **WestCoastGopherGuy** » Sat 10/01/11 12:23 am

Yeah.. its unfortunate. just surprising to see Lettieris connections with all these kids though.. you werent kidding when you said he is well respected by his peers.

by **Gopherguy05** » Sun 10/02/11 9:59 pm

Could this be good news when it comes to Lucia:

Irish not coming west

The other college hockey news of the day came from the new National Collegiate Hockey Conference, which announced that it will begin play with eight teams in 2013-14. What that really means, is that the new alliance of Colorado College, Denver, Miami (Ohio), Minnesota Duluth, Nebraska-Omaha, North Dakota, St. Cloud State and Western Michigan is no longer waiting around for Notre Dame to make a decision.

The NCHC had extended an invite to the Irish, who are still playing in the soon-to-be-defunct Central Collegiate Hockey Association, but the NCHC had imposed, then extended, a deadline, which the folks in South Bend apparently failed to meet. Notre Dame, according to many, is looking for a conference home which will allow the school to have its own television contract.

In the wake of the NCHC announcement, reports began swirling immediately, including one in the South Bend Tribune, that the Irish (currently ranked number one in the nation) will announce they are joining Hockey East as soon as Wednesday. That Boston-based conference is home to such national heavyweights as Boston College, Boston University, New Hampshire and Maine. Notre Dame's new on-campus arena opens later this month.

by **WestCoastGopherGuy** » Mon 10/03/11 12:14 am

will be interesting to see how this plays out now. don said this summer he really didnt think mario cared to play out east.. he was referencing marios interest in playing for a school in the current hockey east conference (not notre dame).. but in 2013 they might be one in the same.

by **Hammer Time** » Tue 10/04/11 10:31 am

Does anyone know what the goalie situation is after this year? It looks like Shibrowski is a sophmore this year and not a stud prospect. Is he our projected starter next year or are we bringing in a recruit that is projected to start for us next season?

by **thedude** » Tue 10/04/11 10:35 am

Hammer Time wrote:Does anyone know what the goalie situation is after this year? It looks like Shibrowski is a sophmore this year and not a stud prospect. Is he our projected starter next year or are we bringing in a recruit that is projected to start for us next season?

Adam Wilcox from South Saint Paul, and playing for the green bay gamblers, is coming next fall.

by **gopherguy06** » Tue 10/04/11 10:49 am

That's a good question. I was wondering the same thing at the Exhibition about our goalie situation. I know Wilcox is coming in, but had heard little about Shibrowski.

by **Hammer Time** » Tue 10/04/11 11:05 am

thedude wrote:
Hammer Time wrote:Does anyone know what the goalie situation is after this year? It looks like Shibrowski is a sophmore this year and not a stud prospect. Is he our projected starter next year or are we bringing in a recruit that is projected to start for us next season?

Adam Wilcox from South Saint Paul, and playing for the green bay gamblers, is coming next fall.

So is Shibrowski viewed as more of a career back-up here and Wilcox our goalie of the future?

by **thedude** » Tue 10/04/11 11:09 am

Hammer Time wrote:
thedude wrote:
Hammer Time wrote:Does anyone know what the goalie situation is after this year? It looks like Shibrowski is a sophmore this year and not a stud prospect. Is he our projected starter next year or are we bringing in a recruit that is projected to start for us next season?

Adam Wilcox from South Saint Paul, and playing for the green bay gamblers, is coming next fall.

So is Shibrowski viewed as more of a career back-up here and Wilcox our goalie of the future?

I would imagine Wilcox will get every chance to earn the starting position...

by **Hammy** » Tue 10/04/11 11:11 am

Hammer Time wrote:So is Shibrowski viewed as more of a career back-up here and Wilcox our goalie of the future?

That's probably the plan.

by **ND GOPHER** » Tue 10/04/11 11:47 am

thedude wrote:
Hammer Time wrote:Does anyone know what the goalie situation is after this year? It looks like Shibrowski is a sophmore this year and not a stud prospect. Is he our projected starter next year or are we bringing in a recruit that is projected to start for us next season?

Adam Wilcox from South Saint Paul, and playing for the green bay gamblers, is coming next fall.

Hopefully he sees more time this season...whether that be a trade or he takes over the job, but seems to be part of a goalie tandem again this season. I wouldnt want to rely on a FR. coming in next year with only 40 games under his belt in the USHL...

by **JDUBBS1280** » Thu 10/06/11 9:55 pm

Penticton website now lists Mario Lucia as committed to Notre Dame:

http://www.pentictonvees.ca/leagues/ros ... rID=821894

by **champ** » Thu 10/06/11 10:04 pm

I hope that is a mistake. Sure would be nice to see Mario in maroon and gold.

by **Bash Brother** » Thu 10/06/11 10:07 pm

by **Davey J.** » Thu 10/06/11 10:18 pm

I just noticed this on Heisenberg's Twitter also "BCHL site now has Mario Lucia as a Notre Dame recruit." I hope it's wrong too...wonder when it was posted on the BCHL site???

by **Bash Brother** » Thu 10/06/11 10:20 pm

I'll text Don

by **Hammy** » Thu 10/06/11 10:24 pm

Pretty sure it is accurate. I see Mikey Reilly congratulating Mario via Twitter. Since they are teammates in Penticton, I'd say odds are good he'd know directly from him.

Not really a surprise and I don't blame him given the circumstances. There is a lot of extra stuff to weigh when your dad is one of the coaches. It was a tougher situation for Tony when he was here and I'm sure his experience played a role (though I'm not sure they will openly say that). It is probably why Jake Guentzel likely will end up at another school too.

by **SJUGuy** » Thu 10/06/11 10:34 pm

Lucia committed to Notre Dame. 100% confirmed.

by **WestCoastGopherGuy** » Thu 10/06/11 11:30 pm

I wonder why he waited until now. it seems like it would have been to see where notre dame will be playing- but if thats the case im surprised he wanted to play at hockey east. im not in the business of questioning 18 year olds.. but if a guy wants to play in hockey east rather than the big10/nchc- have fun.

by **streakygopher** » Thu 10/06/11 11:40 pm

I say this in all seriousness...I don't think he'll be as good as Bjugstad is in his 2 years, and I think he'll probably be a two-year guy. I don't consider this a huge loss, except I would have enjoyed watching him play and develop.

Will admit I'm a little surprised to see him play in HE....and miss out on what appears to be shaping up as a blockbuster recruitment for the Gophers.

by **dxmnkd316** » Thu 10/06/11 11:45 pm

Blockbuster? Not disagreeing, but what makes you describe it as blockbuster?

by **streakygopher** » Thu 10/06/11 11:54 pm

dxmnkd316 wrote:Blockbuster? Not disagreeing, but what makes you describe it as blockbuster?

I like the guys they got this year and the players coming in...Kloos, Skjei, Guertler, Literri, Reilly...these guys are good.

by **Slap Shot** » Fri 10/07/11 12:42 am

I'm actually somewhat glad that he chose to go elsewhere.

by **Bash Brother** » Fri 10/07/11 12:43 am

Slap Shot wrote:I'm actually somewhat glad that he chose to go elsewhere.

I would love an explanation of this

by **Slap Shot** » Fri 10/07/11 1:02 am

Bash Brother wrote:
Slap Shot wrote:I'm actually somewhat glad that he chose to go elsewhere.

I would love an explanation of this

Love the potential talent but wonder if it outweighs the potential manufactured drama that would most likely result by playing for Dad.

by **WestCoastGopherGuy** » Fri 10/07/11 8:46 am

they must have done a really good job covering up the drama when Tony was here because from a fans perspective- i didnt notice anything but him working his tail off, becoming a fan favorite, and finishing as a captain. but i agree- if mario wasnt sure he wanted to play at the U, its best he chose notre dame. he will get a couple years of education there and maybe a couple ncaa appearances. at least he didnt choose CC

by **sunbone** » Fri 10/07/11 9:52 am

WestCoastGopherGuy wrote:they must have done a really good job covering up the drama when Tony was here because from a fans perspective- i didnt notice anything but him working his tail off, becoming a fan favorite, and finishing as a captain. but i agree- if mario wasnt sure he wanted to play at the U, its best he chose notre dame. he will get a couple years of education there and maybe a couple ncaa appearances. at least he didnt choose CC

There was a certain segment of the fan base, and some players and parents who did nothing but chirp the whole time Tony was here that he got preferential treatment. I would have been fine with Mario coming here but can completely understand why the Lucia family thought it best he play somewhere else.

by **fishingmn** » Fri 10/07/11 10:32 am

Story about Mario's commitment to Notre Dame is now up at the Star Tribune - http://www.mnhockeyhub.com/news_article ... r_id=32770

by **Hammy** » Fri 10/07/11 10:43 am

I think it comes down to if you are going to pick a college, you want it to have as many positives and as few negatives as possible for that individual. Obviously both situations have plenty of positives.

I'm sure there was plenty of talk between father and son on the whole situation. Some of the thought process will not likely come up in public so we'll never know.

I wouldn't discount the reality that Mario is probably going to be a short timer in college too. A lot easier to bail on somebody else's team after a year or two than it is your dad's program.

by **HillFan1** » Fri 10/07/11 10:54 am

http://www.mnhockeyhub.com/news_article ... r_id=32770

If we could only ship his dad with him, I would be at peace with his decision! :evil:

by **gopher wes** » Fri 10/07/11 11:02 am

by **thinkbui** » Fri 10/07/11 11:04 am

Doesn't bother me. I would have liked to see him wear the M, but I don't hold it against him for doing what a lot of coachs' kids do in going elsewhere, especially after all the crossfire Tony was in when he was here. Mario's got to make decisions for himself, not us.

by **thedude** » Fri 10/07/11 11:16 am

Good for him, great school and program. Love seeing Minnesota kids play anywhere. Though, i do get a kick out of him saying that he's getting out of his dad's shadow...by going to his dad's Alma mater.

by **Handyman** » Fri 10/07/11 12:24 pm

WestCoastGopherGuy wrote:they must have done a really good job covering up the drama when Tony was here because from a fans perspective- i didnt notice anything but him working his tail off, becoming a fan favorite, and finishing as a captain. but i agree- if mario wasnt sure he wanted to play at the U, its best he chose notre dame. he will get a couple years of education there and maybe a couple ncaa appearances. at least he didnt choose CC

They didnt, in fact every thread on GPL discussed it. As the team got worse and Tony got more ice time (which he earned, I was a big Tony defender) it got louder and louder.

Good for Mario...Notre Dame is a damned good school and is playing some great hockey of late. I hope it works out for him :good2:

by **ScoobyDoo** » Fri 10/07/11 12:28 pm

Heard tDon on 1500 this morning and it sounds to me like he and Mario made the decision that's best for both of them. And that's the way it should be for any father.

Go get Cammarata and Fasching now. There's a couple of Nanne grandson's that are going to want a title while they're here.

by **Hobey Baker** » Wed 10/12/11 9:36 am

tDon was on with PA today and briefly discussed Mario's decision.

1. Coaches Kid was an issue and discussed a lot with Tony and Dad.
2. tDon said he kept him at arms length. Said if he wanted him he would have been here.
3. tDon said he selfishly wanted to be just a Dad.
4. tDon wanted Mario to get everything he deserved because it was all about him.

I respect the decisioin. It obviously was a family decision. What I don't understand is that Mario is not Tony? Mario is a top flight recruit and a player the U would recruit (regardless of his last name). Tony was a 3rd / 4th line guy (who worked his ass off at the U) and was questionable as to why he was at the U. Mario is and could be a program changer. IMO, the Tony years cost us Mario, which is a shame.

I hate seeing guys like Ryan McDonough, Anders Lee and Maria Lucia not wearing the M. Those are the guys that should be in maroon and gold. They are difference makers.

by **Hammy** » Wed 10/12/11 9:56 am

Even if Mario is a better talent than Tony, it certainly doesn't mean that the questions of nepotism would disappear. It is a difficult dynamic for Don and I think it is wise to avoid it completely. I don't look at it like Tony's time cost us. It was a good learning experience and we could end up better off because of it.

I'd also mention that I'd bet that Mario is a two year college player. That's a tough position for Don to be in if he is Mario's coach. How does it look for your son to bolt your program early? Probably not overly damaging but not helpful either.

The question for me is how will they handle Jake Guentzel. Even though MG isn't the head coach and doesn't have the final say, will his being a coach at the U mean they will want to avoid the same thing with his son? Lucia's comments about how it would be different if he were the assistant coach make it seem like they could handle Jake differently than Mario.

Last I heard, Jake has offers from both UMD and SCSU (may have picked up some others since then). Obviously those schools wouldn't be wasting time if there wasn't a legit chance he may go elsewhere. That will be an interesting one to watch. He and Kloos are really playing well together in the Elite League.

by **gophsb2b** » Wed 10/12/11 12:15 pm

I clicked on this tab and it took me to page one instead of the current page. I am glad it did. It gave me a chance to read the hope a few fans had for David Fischer before he brought his misery to campus. I also learned about the absolute silliness that some Wisconsin people have in regards to the gap between MN and WI when it comes to high school hockey. Okay, back on topic.

by **WildGopherFan** » Wed 10/12/11 1:02 pm

Does anyone know a timeline for Cammarata and Fasching as far as when they may commit to a program (hopefully maroon and gold!)?

by **Riff Raff** » Wed 10/12/11 1:33 pm

Hammy wrote:Even if Mario is a better talent than Tony, it certainly doesn't mean that the questions of nepotism would disappear. It is a difficult dynamic for Don and I think it is wise to avoid it completely. I don't look at it like Tony's time cost us. It was a good learning experience and we could end up better off because of it.

I'd also mention that I'd bet that Mario is a two year college player. That's a tough position for Don to be in if he is Mario's coach. How does it look for your son to bolt your program early? Probably not overly damaging but not helpful either.

The question for me is how will they handle Jake Guentzel. Even though MG isn't the head coach and doesn't have the final say, will his being a coach at the U mean they will want to avoid the same thing with his son? Lucia's comments about how it would be different if he were the assistant coach make it seem like they could handle Jake differently than Mario.

Last I heard, Jake has offers from both UMD and SCSU (may have picked up some others since then). Obviously those schools wouldn't be wasting time if there wasn't a legit chance he may go elsewhere. That will be an interesting one to watch. He and Kloos are really playing well together in the Elite League.

The bolded may be true.....but how does it look that you couldn't even land him in the first place? To me , much worse than him leaving early.

just so I understand...Don felt it was the correct decision not to recruit his own son because he was worried about backlash from other parents/kids because of the nepotism issue? A son who is a high draft pick, and is as close to a can't miss as you are ever going to find in a high school hockey player? a kid who could have been a difference maker on a team that desperately needs exactly those type of kids? All because they didn't want to deal with the possbile headache involved? I wish he just would have said he wanted to go to Notre Dame - I respect the kids decision, but I can't respect the coach for insinuating that he really didn't even try to convince him to come here.

by **ScoobyDoo** » Wed 10/12/11 1:41 pm

Let's not get too nuts about Mario not coming to Minnesota. Tony was a dry run and maybe Lucia found out how difficult it really was the hard way. Woog ended up the same way although it happened in reverse order. The best hockey player of his two that played college hockey ended up playing for Northern Michigan and winning a title there. Lucia has had a nice run of recruits this offseason. I'm holding out hope that he gets two more and if he does there shouldn't be anything to complain about.

by **WestCoastGopherGuy** » Wed 10/12/11 2:08 pm

im hoping fasching commits- but from afar he looks like a classic one and down or two year college player at best (based on his size and likely high draft position).. maybe im wrong.

as far as mario.. personally i got the feeling don is just trying to put all the blame on himself and imply mario wanted to come here but don pushed him to notre dame.. thats just my hunch based on the fact that everything don is saying now really differs from what mario was saying in his interviews all spring/summer. props to don for trying to take all the heat when he is already on the hot seat (not that he would throw his kid under the bus- haha.. but im GUESSING it was more likely mario and marios mom that liked notre dame- according to mario earlier this summer).

by **thinkbui** » Wed 10/12/11 2:18 pm

Tony also was here at the wrong time. Had he been around in happier years, there wouldn't have been much question about the icetime he got and Mario might have committed to the U. As it stands now, we aren't 100% sure the storm clouds have passed with the departure of Hill and return of Guentzel, so even without considering tDon, it's still too big of a risk for Mario to come here.

by **Riff Raff** » Wed 10/12/11 2:27 pm

ScoobyDoo wrote:Let's not get too nuts about Mario not coming to Minnesota. Tony was a dry run and maybe Lucia found out how difficult it really was the hard way. Woog ended up the same way although it happened in reverse order. The best hockey player of his two that played college hockey ended up playing for Northern Michigan and winning a title there. Lucia has had a nice run of recruits this offseason. I'm holding out hope that he gets two more and if he does there shouldn't be anything to complain about.

I hear ya, but as Hobey said, Tony and Mario are very different players. I really don't understand the whole issue....Wasn't Don proven right about Tony? Maybe early on there were legitimte complaints, but as a upperclassman he was one of the only kids that stood out as worthy of wearing the "M". I didn't hear anyone bitching about playing time when Tony was just about the only kid busting his ass every weekend.

I just hate that Mario is going elsewhere mostly because it seems people didn't want to deal with the drama of him coming here. I do like our other recruits, but you can never have enough talent. Recent performance of this team does not give it the benefit of picking and choosing which high end talent it can decide to or to not recruit....no matter who it is.

by **Hammy** » Wed 10/12/11 2:29 pm

WestCoastGopherGuy wrote:im hoping fasching commits- but from afar he looks like a classic one and down or two year college player at best (based on his size and likely high draft position).. maybe im wrong.

as far as mario.. personally i got the feeling don is just trying to put all the blame on himself and imply mario wanted to come here but don pushed him to notre dame.. thats just my hunch based on the fact that everything don is saying now really differs from what mario was saying in his interviews all spring/summer. props to don for trying to take all the heat when he is already on the hot seat (not that he would throw his kid under the bus- haha.. but im GUESSING it was more likely mario and marios mom that liked notre dame- according to mario earlier this summer).

Lucia said his wife wasn't entirely happy about Mario playing hockey elsewhere so I don't think you have the mom part correct.

I am not sure why a few people refuse to take Lucia at his word with what he has said about it on multiple occasions in the last week. Anybody that has played sports on a team with a father/son situation knows it is rife with land mines. Even if the son is the best player on the team.

Mario is a good player but there are other good players to get.

It is a situation like this where I gain some sympathy for Don Lucia. He tries to do the right thing for his son and gets ripped on by some. If he brings his kid in here, he'd probably catch grief for that too. I like Mario as a player but jeez... you'd think we missed out on another Vanek here.

by **thinkbui** » Wed 10/12/11 2:38 pm

Riff Raff wrote:I didn't hear anyone bitching about playing time when Tony was just about the only kid busting his ass every weekend.

IIRC it popped up quite a lot in the "coaching change" thread.

by **WestCoastGopherGuy** » Wed 10/12/11 2:41 pm

im only going off what mario said earlier in the summer- when he said his mom was pressuring him to go elsewhere, tony was pressuring him to go to the U, and his dad was leaving the decision to him. maybe things changed since then. im only pointing out that it seems like don is taking all of the responsibility when, according to mario, don gave him an offer and left the decision to mario.. so im not gonna pile on don for mario going elsewhere.

by **Riff Raff** » Wed 10/12/11 2:48 pm

thinkbui wrote:
Riff Raff wrote:I didn't hear anyone bitching about playing time when Tony was just about the only kid busting his ass every weekend.

IIRC it popped up quite a lot in the "coaching change" thread.

I meant from players/parents. I thought that was where the trouble started. Who cares what we all think

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