Gopher Football 2009

[Greyeagle]

Anyone know if the will-call lines are bad on game day? I've heard the line to get in can be bad...just trying to allow enough time. Thanks.

[Handyman]

Sorry handy but Saturday was cold and windy and only the students didn't shoe up save a few rows in a single section. The rest of the place was packed.

I didnt say Saturday, I said homecoming...and at that game the upper bowl in the student section was half empty and half the seats in the lower bowl between the twenties were empty. There were whole ROWS of empty seats...it was like looking at the center ice seats at Mariucci for a Sunday game against Anchorage. That isnt hyperbole either, it was one of the worst displays I have ever seen and it was completely predictable. The second the Gophers lost to Wisconsin half the fanbase stopped caring.

[Handyman]

I don't get the empty seats in the new stadium. That is just embarrassing. But as far as not travelling well, do you really blame fans for not shelling out money and time off to go to these 3rd tier bowl games? Sorry, I'm not dropping over a grand and taking time off from work to go to the Insight Bowl or Micronpc Bowl, or whatever made up crappy bowl game we will go to this year. When you are playing in about the 28th best bowl game year after year people realize what they are getting, it is like a crappy non-conference game played a month after the season ends. I say Minnesota fans are smart for NOT going.

No now that is completely understandable, I wouldnt go to those either...but remember the Gophs didnt travel well in 1999 to the first bowl game they made, back when it was a big deal to us. I know the Sun Bowl isnt the most prestigious bowl out there but it had been a decade since they were bowl eligible (and it was a very good Gopher team against a damned good Oregon team) you would think that would get people motivated to go. I tried but the package deals were too expensive for a college kid.

No one can blame you for not shelling out the money to go to a cruddy bowl game, but then you cant blame the better bowls for passing us over when they choose either. (not saying you did just piggybacking on your comment) Why should the Alamo Bowl believe we will sell whatever our allotment is?

[JWG]

The stadium on 10/31 WAS mostly full. Only noticeable empty seats were in the student section. It was Halloween and I think parties still out weigh football here.

By 2nd half the temperature was down to 28 degrees, so cold for this time of year.

Not excusing behavior, just stating what it was. Full less upperdeck student seating and a 40 degree kick-off temperature that had fallen to below freezing in the 2nd half.

[Six Hole]

Sorry handy but Saturday was cold and windy and only the students didn't shoe up save a few rows in a single section. The rest of the place was packed.

I didnt say Saturday, I said homecoming...and at that game the upper bowl in the student section was half empty and half the seats in the lower bowl between the twenties were empty. There were whole ROWS of empty seats...it was like looking at the center ice seats at Mariucci for a Sunday game against Anchorage. That isnt hyperbole either, it was one of the worst displays I have ever seen and it was completely predictable. The second the Gophers lost to Wisconsin half the fanbase stopped caring.

This is absurd. I happen to sit between the 20s and don't remember seeing empty rows. And the seats across the field looked pretty packed too. The open seats I remember were the top of the student section (yes, it was indeed more than 1/2 full in the upper deck; maybe not at kickoff and maybe not at the end, but attendance there was more than you claim) and in upper corner near the big scoreboard (Purdue seats?). It wasn't a full house by any means, just wanted to refute your hyperbole.

[Golden FE Ranger]

ok. I'll call your bet and raise you this (i was going to say I'll see your wife and raise you my brother but didn't for obvious reasons ):

Anyone know if the will-call lines are bad on game day? I've heard the line to get in can be bad...just trying to allow enough time. Thanks.

I had heard the same thing (my tickets were at will-call last week). We were going early to get some food on campus before the game, so to avoid lines we picked the tickets up before parking. I just drove up University, dropped the wife on the sidewalk in front of the ticket office, went around the stadium one time and there she was. It worked pretty slick. I don't know if you are going down early or if you are driving, but it is an idea.

[Handyman]

Sorry handy but Saturday was cold and windy and only the students didn't shoe up save a few rows in a single section. The rest of the place was packed.

I didnt say Saturday, I said homecoming...and at that game the upper bowl in the student section was half empty and half the seats in the lower bowl between the twenties were empty. There were whole ROWS of empty seats...it was like looking at the center ice seats at Mariucci for a Sunday game against Anchorage. That isnt hyperbole either, it was one of the worst displays I have ever seen and it was completely predictable. The second the Gophers lost to Wisconsin half the fanbase stopped caring.

This is absurd. I happen to sit between the 20s and don't remember seeing empty rows. And the seats across the field looked pretty packed too. The open seats I remember were the top of the student section (yes, it was indeed more than 1/2 full in the upper deck; maybe not at kickoff and maybe not at the end, but attendance there was more than you claim) and in upper corner near the big scoreboard (Purdue seats?). It wasn't a full house by any means, just wanted to refute your hyperbole.

I sat on both sides of the stadium during the game (started on home side in the lower bowl, finished on visitors in the upper bowl) the empty seats were clear as day and people were talking about it. If you couldnt see them then I dont know what to tell you. There were tons of seats open in the middle, the seat colors were in plain view. (I know because I felt angry the colors didn't match the uniforms and the colors on the field no not really!). Maybe some were late arrivals (not likely but lets go with it) and maybe some left early but what is the excuse for the 2nd and 3rd? I could have found seats in any section in the stadium for me and my friends, at any time and not worried about it. This is homecoming, when the alumni base and the students are supposed to show up, it was terrible.

GE, I dont think you should have much trouble with will call.

[Greyeagle]

Thanks guys.
No need to park, we live a short walk from University Ave. in Pig's Eye so we'll probably wander down take the bus to the game and avoid the traffic mess. Looks like it's a straight shot via bus so even an idiot (yours truly) can figure it out.

PS - don't tell the boss the lines are short & quick. I have her convinced we need to get there early so once we get the tix and have a couple hours to kill I will innocently suggest Sally's or Stub's.

[Six Hole]

I sat on both sides of the stadium during the game (started on home side in the lower bowl, finished on visitors in the upper bowl) the empty seats were clear as day and people were talking about it. If you couldnt see them then I dont know what to tell you. There were tons of seats open in the middle, the seat colors were in plain view. (I know because I felt angry the colors didn't match the uniforms and the colors on the field no not really!). Maybe some were late arrivals (not likely but lets go with it) and maybe some left early but what is the excuse for the 2nd and 3rd? I could have found seats in any section in the stadium for me and my friends, at any time and not worried about it. This is homecoming, when the alumni base and the students are supposed to show up, it was terrible.

GE, I dont think you should have much trouble with will call.

I think you're greatly exaggerating the number of empty seats, but I don't care enough to argue with you. I think our difference is in the fact that you called the upper student section half empty, whereas I would have called it half full (had it been the case).

[killer4president]

Thanks guys.
No need to park, we live a short walk from University Ave. in Pig's Eye so we'll probably wander down take the bus to the game and avoid the traffic mess. Looks like it's a straight shot via bus so even an idiot (yours truly) can figure it out.

PS - don't tell the boss the lines are short & quick. I have her convinced we need to get there early so once we get the tix and have a couple hours to kill I will innocently suggest Sally's or Stub's.

The 16 works out very slick GE. If I remeber correctly it comes every 16 or 18 minutes that early in the morning.

[sunbone]

I sat on both sides of the stadium during the game (started on home side in the lower bowl, finished on visitors in the upper bowl) the empty seats were clear as day and people were talking about it. If you couldnt see them then I dont know what to tell you. There were tons of seats open in the middle, the seat colors were in plain view. (I know because I felt angry the colors didn't match the uniforms and the colors on the field no not really!). Maybe some were late arrivals (not likely but lets go with it) and maybe some left early but what is the excuse for the 2nd and 3rd? I could have found seats in any section in the stadium for me and my friends, at any time and not worried about it. This is homecoming, when the alumni base and the students are supposed to show up, it was terrible.

GE, I dont think you should have much trouble with will call.

I think you're greatly exaggerating the number of empty seats, but I don't care enough to argue with you. I think our difference is in the fact that you called the upper student section half empty, whereas I would have called it half full (had it been the case).

So you are saying Handy is prone to using hyperbole and can be a little negative? Nooooo.....never.....

[Handyman]

Oh I use hyperbole...but I am not in this case. Doesn't matter, the fact that the students didnt show annoys me more than the season ticket holders...the students are a joke.

[Greyeagle]

Oh I use hyperbole...but I am not in this case. Doesn't matter, the fact that the students didnt show annoys me more than the season ticket holders...the students are a joke.

Garrrr, back when I was a student.......up hill both ways.......snow or rain........drifts like bulldozers....hurrumph.

[MAP]

Oh I use hyperbole...but I am not in this case. Doesn't matter, the fact that the students didnt show annoys me more than the season ticket holders...the students are a joke.

Garrrr, back when I was a student.......up hill both ways.......snow or rain........drifts like bulldozers....hurrumph.

You forgot: "Into the wind both ways" and "We had real winters then not these wimpy excuses for post summer we have now" and "20 miles"...

[Slap Shot]

Handy, my nephew is a student and was at both of the recent home games. He said A LOT of students crammed down as low as they could and stood more per aisle than are assigned seats. I know it cannot account for all the missing bodies, but it sounds like it accounts for some of it.

[Sioux/Bucky Hater]

I was at the game Saturday sitting 214. It is the last section of seats before the end zone where they turn into benches. There were a ton of empty bench seats. Call it half full or half empty. 2/3rds, 1/3rd, or 37/64ths. Doesn't matter, it was a little embarassing. The lower level student section did look pretty crammed up by the field. I would estimate it like this: the kids that were not sitting/standing on the top of the lower level student section had moved down closer to the field. What accounts for the missing people upstairs? To the people that complained about the small capacity stadium when it was announced, this is the reason. Oh yeah, the 100 or so empty seats behind the Gopher bench on the 30 yard line was a complete joke. I read in the Fun Suck (can I type suck on a message board that has Gopher in its title?) that they were reserved for some sort of student organization. Well, sign me and 87 of my friends up for the organization so we can fill the rest of those seats. I don't ever want to see those prime seats empty on T.V. or in person again. What a joke.

Was it cold out? Yes, no, who cares. It wasn't if you were dressed for it. Again, I was in 214. The wind was blowing at me all night. I had on 2 long sleeve t-shirts, a sweatshirt, and a fleece jacket (which is kinda thin). After the first couple of minutes of play, I took the fleece off. I put it back on later but was warm enough to keep my gloves off for most of the night.

I was very impressed with the stadium. The scoreboard is awesome. I thought they were keeping the one end of the stadium open to see the downtown skyline. Not a very good view. Yeah, it took a while to get through security, oh well. I thought the corridor was nice and wide on the way in. However, at half time it sure was cramped. I think most of the people were just milling around. Lines to the concessions were not bad. Havn't got computer cash registers yet huh? I did have to wait for the bathroom for a bit. I parked in the Oak St ramp. Unlike Zwak, it took me a long time to get going. I was on level four. Someone I was with wanted to leave with two minutes left when we had the ball on first down. I told him no. I didn't want to leave before the game was over. Well, maybe I should have. I bet we didn't get out of our parking spot for 25 minutes after we got to the car. Once out of the ramp, traffic moved along nicely.

It was one of the most exciting games (football or otherwise) I've been to. Was it well played? No. How do you know if a game was well officiated? If you don't notice the refs. Well, I'm pretty sure they were noticed by the way they were chanted to. More BIG plays than one would expect to see in three or four games. Fun stuff!!!

[Zwak]

I was at the game on Saturday and I really only noticed empty seats in the upper level of the horseshoe. I would say it was 1/3 - 1/2 empty.

Also telling to me was that 5 suites were dark with no one in them.

[kmd]

Upper half of the student section was at best 1/10 filled by the time I got there in the 3rd quarter.

[Orion]

Oh I use hyperbole...but I am not in this case. Doesn't matter, the fact that the students didnt show annoys me more than the season ticket holders...the students are a joke.

Garrrr, back when I was a student.......up hill both ways.......snow or rain........drifts like bulldozers....hurrumph.

That and getting mugged walking to the games

[Handyman]

Handy, my nephew is a student and was at both of the recent home games. He said A LOT of students crammed down as low as they could and stood more per aisle than are assigned seats. I know it cannot account for all the missing bodies, but it sounds like it accounts for some of it.

Yeah I have heard that one before...it is BS if you look at the student section itself. For the Homecoming game they were spaced out in the upper deck not crammed together. (in the lower deck they were crammed from what I could see) And even if I was going to believe it (despite what I actually saw) it maybe accounts for half the empties and that is being generous. There is no acceptable excuse, the students dont show.

[gator]

Can the Gophers find a kicker who can keep the football inbounds on kickoff? It just frustrates me, your job is to kick off a football. How hard is it?

[Jupiter]

Ummm we just block a punt for a TD.... There are just over 3 minutes left.... and we already have NO timeouts left? Are you F'n kidding me????

[Dances With Gophers]

Dagnabbit.

[streakygopher]

Beautiful weather for football in Minnesota and in Iowa...for Illinois and Northwestern.

[NYC Gopher fan]

I don't know what's worse, the team or our students.

I guess all those students who couldn't sell their ticket for $20 on craigslist didn't bother showing. Must have been some great parties last night on campus to prevent waking up by 11am. Or was it just too sunny outside today to warrant showing up?

[gator]

I don't know what's worse, the team or our students.

Hands down the students. They are handed a stadium on campus and they are to lazy to make a game. It's the samething at Mariucci, but at least they show up to the Barn.

[Handyman]

I don't know what's worse, the team or our students.

I guess all those students who couldn't sell their ticket for $20 on craigslist didn't bother showing. Must have been some great parties last night on campus to prevent waking up by 11am. Or was it just too sunny outside today to warrant showing up?

Hey now...they were "crammed together" that is why there was half the student section open!

I left the game after we punted with 4 minutes left...I havent left a football game early in over 20 years...I was more frustrated watching todays game than I was when the Gophs would lose by 40 because there was no excuse for this...NONE! I dont care that the Illini blew out a mediocre Michigan team last week, the Gophers should have won and would have if they had showed up before halftime.

Notes:

Whoever calls the offensive and defensive plays is a complete and utter moron. I mean seriously I hope they were drunk because they made every wrong call at the wrong time. The Gophers drive down the field running the ball, it is 2nd and 1 on the 1 and you call a bootleg? That play cost the team a TD. Defensively whenever they called a nickel defense on 3rd down (which meant a blitz) and long the Illini converted and yet they did it EVERY 3rd DOWN! Maybe I am a moron but if it isnt working, stop doing it!

Last week was a mirage, Weber was terrible. Yes I know the line stunk but on half the sacks Weber sat there and waited for the deep play to open up. Most of the time he completely ignored open guys underneath while doing it. At least 3 times Green was open for an 8-10 yard completion (and when I say open, I mean there was no one there he found a hole and sat there) and Weber never even looked to that side of the field he just checked it deep or got sacked. (you will notice in the 3rd quarter he finally looked at Green who was still open and it worked!) What was telling was when the Illini called a halfback pass their halfback looked at 3 different receivers before going down...apparently he knows more about QBing than Weber does.

Our offensive line sucks...they are more sieve-like than Jeff Frazee after a night at Blarney's.

We have the worst 3rd down defense I have seen in some time. The Illini were 9-17 on 3rd down and I would bet 6 of those conversions were of 8 or more yards. Today wasnt a case where the d was tired because the offense sucked, they couldnt get themselves off the field. Even after the Gophers drove after halftime meaning the D had plenty of time to relax they couldn't stop the Illini. My llord the backup QB carved up our D like Thanksgiving Turkey.

Have I mentioned the line sucked? They looked like matadors out there...OLE!!

I wish the coaches would decide on a primary RB and stick with it for a few weeks.

I think it is going to take a Herculean effort next season for the Brewster to get an extension...I have no inside info (though I will ask around) to back up my claim but being bowl eligible wont be enough. He is going to need to win some huge games (including Iowa at home and maybe even Sconnie as well on the road) or he might be shown the door. Just a feeling I didnt say I endorse the idea.

[SouthTexGopher]

He is going to need to win some huge games (including Iowa at home and maybe even Sconnie as well on the road) or he might be shown the door. Just a feeling I didnt say I endorse the idea.

I agree.

And I endorse the idea of not extending his time at Minnesota. Mason was terminated because the team couldn't finish - and couldn't take it to the next level. So we hired Brewster and got...what? Right...the same kind of performance. It's not like there's something in the water that causes this.

I don't blame the students for their apathy. When the play on the field generates more shame than points, it's hard to put butts in the seats.

[Handyman]

That is BS...the students have been selling off their seats all year even before the team went in the tank. There is no excuse even Justin Conzemius on Gopher Fan Line was ripping them for not showing up. It was 60 degrees and gorgeous and your team is trying to get to bowl eligible...if you cant take the time to get off your lazy friggin asses to walk 3 blocks to the stadium when you already purchased tickets then you suck and prove why we have one of the worst reputations as fans in the Big Ten.

[SouthTexGopher]

That is BS...the students have been selling off their seats all year even before the team went in the tank. There is no excuse even Justin Conzemius on Gopher Fan Line was ripping them for not showing up. It was 60 degrees and gorgeous and your team is trying to get to bowl eligible...if you cant take the time to get off your lazy friggin asses to walk 3 blocks to the stadium when you already purchased tickets then you suck and prove why we have one of the worst reputations as fans in the Big Ten.

Despite your cheerful and congenial response, I have to disagree with you.

If the team were decent, there would be a full house.

Getting "bowl eligible" is really not that relevant...since your average football fan knows that being eligible may mean playing in the NobodyCares.com Bowl.

[Slap Shot]

Hey now...they were "crammed together" that is why there was half the student section open!

[NYC Gopher fan]

That is BS...the students have been selling off their seats all year even before the team went in the tank. There is no excuse even Justin Conzemius on Gopher Fan Line was ripping them for not showing up. It was 60 degrees and gorgeous and your team is trying to get to bowl eligible...if you cant take the time to get off your lazy friggin asses to walk 3 blocks to the stadium when you already purchased tickets then you suck and prove why we have one of the worst reputations as fans in the Big Ten.

Despite your cheerful and congenial response, I have to disagree with you.

If the team were decent, there would be a full house.

Getting "bowl eligible" is really not that relevant...since your average football fan knows that being eligible may mean playing in the NobodyCares.com Bowl.

No, if the team were decent, the students would be trying even harder to get more $$ for their tickets on CL. The amount of students selling for Wisconsin was pathetic.

[JWG]

Well, I really wanted to find a positive in today's game but I don't have one. Unless you consider being pretty confident that Brewster won't get a contract extension positive. He beats Iowas on the road, maybe a 1-2 year extension. We finish 6-6, no. We finish 5-7 - fire up the moving truck (we won't but even I can't except that).

I still argue 6-6 means we're no worse than last year, though I also find it hard to accept as it also means we're not better. We'll finish 3-5 in the Big 10 (same as every year since 1997), go to the who gives a holy h_ll bowl.com, lose and talk about how next year is our year.

I wish I could see a bright spot in some phase of the game today, but I can't. A great blocked punt is offset by the lack of penetration on kick-off returns and the horrid kick-offs on our part. The decent defense (playing on a short field the entire first half is difficult), is offset by needing one stop... one... and letting IL drive for 7 to go up 35-25. The offense was just plain terrible. Their one good drive ends in a field goal. Coaching was a joke. 2nd and less than 1 to go and we don't run the ball...

I'm disgusted with this effort. We beat Purdue and Northwestern and they manage to get up and beat Ohio State, Michigan and Iowa. If we played all 3, we'd lose to all 3. This team cannot get up to beat good teams or win big games. If it's a good team we lose, if it's a bad team but a big game we lose. I bet we play IL either early in the season or after securing a no bowl season and we win.

[kmd]

So much hatred being directed towards me...

::single tear::

[Ben]

Since I have quite a bit to say that's negative, I'll stick to the positives.

The coaching staff did an excellent job making adjustments at halftime. Hoese had an outstanding 2nd half, and I think the coaching staff deserves credit for realizing that he was going uncovered. The coaches also did a good job for having defensive players in position to make plays in the 2nd half. (Unfortunately, being in position is only half the battle. Once you're there, you actually need to CATCH THE DAMN BALL!) Um, if more comes to me I'll edit my post. I don't think I'll be coming back to make any positive comments about the QB play today. Also not getting many kudos: Ellestad. The onside kick was perfect, but there were kickoffs before that which were not.

One person who absolutely deserves to be banned from ever watching football again: The idiot sitting in section 232 in about row 20 who was screaming at the end of the game that "YOU CAN'T PUNT THE BALL" over and over again. You should not be allowed near the game ever again, since you obviously think it's more checkers then chess. Please turn in your tickets and find your way to the nearest NBA game as soon as possible.

[Greyeagle]

I don't know what's worse, the team or our students.

Hands down the students. They are handed a stadium on campus and they are to lazy to make a game. It's the samething at Mariucci, but at least they show up to the Barn.

Embarrassing. Pathetic. Lazy. Spoiled. Indifferent.

[GOPHERFAN119]

Time to find a new Head Coach. Please no contract extension.

Time to play Marquis Gray. Time to bench Weber and try something new.

[Dances With Gophers]

Embarrassing. Pathetic. Lazy. Spoiled. Indifferent.

[Handyman]

Hey now...they were "crammed together" that is why there was half the student section open!

Oh lord that wasnt a shot at you or your nephew, it was a shot at the many people have used that lame excuse to explain why half the student section in the upper deck isnt filled. My lord you are crabby today...

It wasn't just Wisconsin that the students were selling for...the amount for every game is/was ridiculous. If you dont want to go that is fine, dont buy tickets then. Greyeagle pretty much summed it up best I think.

Ben,

There were lots of receivers open in the first half but Weber seemed to want to throw to the deep route A LOT! I mean as I said Green was barely covered and the staff found out that the flat was wide open for the FB. I just wonder what the heck Adam was thinking.

Barring the team losing to SDSU next week no way Brew gets canned...but they wont extend him either. He will coach next year with a team filled with his guys and it will be put up or shut up. I think anything less than 8 wins and he is for sure gone though after that.

[Greyeagle]

I don't think the play calling helped Weber today, it seemed the routes had the the receivers open early but they were doing some fake handoff stuff and the routes closed up by the time he had a chance to see them.

[JWG]

I don't think the play calling helped Weber today, it seemed the routes had the the receivers open early but they were doing some fake handoff stuff and the routes closed up by the time he had a chance to see them.

I'm not sure I agree. Overthrowing receivers on long passes, throwing too far out of bounds, throwing into the flat with a defender primed to jump the route... I think those are things you can blame on Weber. We were lucky to get the PI call in the end zone because that ball was uncatchable. Accuracy and decision making still concerns me.

I will, give credit to coaching for 1/2 time adjustment. But not so much that it offsets this team not being ready at all in the first half.

[Greyeagle]

I don't think the play calling helped Weber today, it seemed the routes had the the receivers open early but they were doing some fake handoff stuff and the routes closed up by the time he had a chance to see them.

I'm not sure I agree. Overthrowing receivers on long passes, throwing too far out of bounds, throwing into the flat with a defender primed to jump the route... I think those are things you can blame on Weber. We were lucky to get the PI call in the end zone because that ball was uncatchable. Accuracy and decision making still concerns me.

I will, give credit to coaching for 1/2 time adjustment. But not so much that it offsets this team not being ready at all in the first half.

I should have said Weber was not good, just thought, particularly in the first half, the play design was questionable.

[Handyman]

My whole section called the Weber pick as soon as it left his hand...man it was obvious where he was going and what was going to happen

[Ben]

My whole section called the Weber pick as soon as it left his hand...man it was obvious where he was going and what was going to happen

So did everyone in mine. It was frustrating because the deep receiver in that 1/3 of the field was just breaking open. It was a "GOLDY! NO!" moment. Hell, I didn't even need to watch. As soon as the ball left his hand, I just put my head in my heads.

[Greyeagle]

Weber was the only person that didn't see it...

[NYC Gopher fan]

oh no, even Sid is talking about the students

http://www.startribune.com/sports/69534 ... page=3&c=y

someone better email the writer of that column and inform him about all the students that squeeze in together in the lower deck

[Handyman]

The students are awesome...just ask them...

[evegoe]

The students are awesome...just ask them...

So is the solution to take away two of the student section seats from the upper level and sell them to the public, and then oversell the existing student section seats? I mean they'll just cram in anyway right? Tough not to have a full bank for a conference game when the team just had a big win over MSU.

Hard to put all the blame on Weber and the o-line--probably shared responsibility--for all the sacks. They looked like the Green Bay Packers at times. I think the team is making progress though. They came back from a huge hole and gave themselves a chance at the end of the game. I wish Michigan was on the schedule this year...

[streakygopher]

The students are awesome...just ask them...

So is the solution to take away two of the student section seats from the upper level and sell them to the public, and then oversell the existing student section seats? I mean they'll just cram in anyway right? Tough not to have a full bank for a conference game when the team just had a big win over MSU.

Hard to put all the blame on Weber and the o-line--probably shared responsibility--for all the sacks. They looked like the Green Bay Packers at times. I think the team is making progress though. They came back from a huge hole and gave themselves a chance at the end of the game. I wish Michigan was on the schedule this year...

Maybe the students are a symptom and not a cause?

[NYC Gopher fan]

The students are awesome...just ask them...

So is the solution to take away two of the student section seats from the upper level and sell them to the public, and then oversell the existing student section seats? I mean they'll just cram in anyway right? Tough not to have a full bank for a conference game when the team just had a big win over MSU.

Hard to put all the blame on Weber and the o-line--probably shared responsibility--for all the sacks. They looked like the Green Bay Packers at times. I think the team is making progress though. They came back from a huge hole and gave themselves a chance at the end of the game. I wish Michigan was on the schedule this year...

Maybe the students are a symptom and not a cause?

I'm pretty sure the team's play is the excuse many students will use, which I still find as BS. I haven't stopped attending Gopher hockey games this year even though we're not as good as we usually are. And I don't think its fair to stop supporting Gopher football either.
There are obvisiously many students who are there each week, no matter if its a big game, or if we won the previous week or not. We need more like them. I'm not sure how the tickets were distributed but I hope it was some kind of an in person line rather than online lottery, as making someone stand in line for a few hours usually draws more of the hardcore fans. And yes, I'm an advocate of taking away some of the student allotment. I'd rather see the U make some $$ back that way than sell on the dirt cheap to students who won't even show up.