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Re: Tennis

Postby Hobey Baker » Mon 6/21/10 4:24 pm

Federer rallies from two sets down to win his opening match at Wimbledon today.

"i live another day. this is one I should have lost. that's sometimes how grass-court tennis works."

Falla served for the match in the fourth set and was three points from victory when Federer broke. Roger won the 4th set tie breaker 7-1 and then won the fifth set 6-0.
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Re: Tennis

Postby uofmpuckhead » Mon 6/21/10 4:41 pm

2010 hasn't been kind to Roger so far. I fear we're starting to see
the beginning of the end. I'll be the first to admit I'm wrong if he somehow
turns it around, but he's been kicked around pretty good so far in several
tournaments this year including Indian Wells and MIami. Even during
his down stretch last year, he didn't seem to have the lapses he's having
so far this year.

While I'd love to see one more Nadal/Federer Wimbledon final, I'm
not optimistic. Let's hope I'm wrong..
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Re: Tennis

Postby Hobey Baker » Mon 6/21/10 4:55 pm

uofmpuckhead wrote:2010 hasn't been kind to Roger so far. I fear we're starting to see
the beginning of the end. I'll be the first to admit I'm wrong if he somehow
turns it around, but he's been kicked around pretty good so far in several
tournaments this year including Indian Wells and MIami. Even during
his down stretch last year, he didn't seem to have the lapses he's having
so far this year.

While I'd love to see one more Nadal/Federer Wimbledon final, I'm
not optimistic. Let's hope I'm wrong..


He did win the Austrailian Open this year but something is up because he lost to Hewitt last week and that just doesn't happen if Roger is on his game.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Snowcool08 » Mon 6/21/10 9:28 pm

Something's definitely up with Federer. It might just be that he's getting beyond his prime and can't win the way he used to. I'd like to think that it's something to do with being up all the time with his twins and that he'll get it figured out so we can see that Federer/Nadal final again.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Jupiter » Wed 6/23/10 1:18 pm

WOW...

A Wimbledon match between Mahut & Isner just passed the 8 hour mark.... They are tied at 44 in the 5th set. The first 4 sets were done in 45 games and now the 5th set is getting close to 90 games.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Chris Eckes » Wed 6/23/10 1:25 pm

that's ridiculous... it's now 45-44 Isner
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Re: Tennis

Postby BlueBandit24 » Wed 6/23/10 1:26 pm

Jupiter wrote:WOW...

A Wimbledon match between Mahut & Isner just passed the 8 hour mark.... They are tied at 44 in the 5th set. The first 4 sets were done in 45 games and now the 5th set is getting close to 90 games.


I'm not much of a tennis watcher, but I have been loitering in the break room watching this match. What an epic match.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Chris Eckes » Wed 6/23/10 1:32 pm

does anyone know what the longest match in the history of tennis is? this has got to be close (they've played like 140+ games!)
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Re: Tennis

Postby Chris Eckes » Wed 6/23/10 1:37 pm

this is now the longest match ever, both in terms of time and games played (as far as i can tell)
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Re: Tennis

Postby Ballz » Wed 6/23/10 2:09 pm

tied at 51 in the 5th. This is a once in a lifetime match. They've both shattered the previous aces in a match record. Crazy.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Bushwood Gopher » Wed 6/23/10 2:12 pm

It should be noted that this match is being played over 2 days, as it was suspended on Tuesday due to darkness.

Still a historic match, but this hasn't been 9+ hours of consecutive tennis.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Ballz » Wed 6/23/10 2:13 pm

Bushwood Gopher wrote:It should be noted that this match is being played over 2 days, as it was suspended on Tuesday due to darkness.

Still a historic match, but this hasn't been 8+ hours of consecutive tennis.

But isn't this set approaching 6 hours? That itself is crazy. 92 aces...
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Re: Tennis

Postby Bushwood Gopher » Wed 6/23/10 2:15 pm

Ballz wrote:
Bushwood Gopher wrote:It should be noted that this match is being played over 2 days, as it was suspended on Tuesday due to darkness.

Still a historic match, but this hasn't been 8+ hours of consecutive tennis.

But isn't this set approaching 6 hours? That itself is crazy. 92 aces...


No question about it. I'm not minimizing the length of the match at all--I just hadn't heard it reported anywhere else but the telecast that this was taking place over 2 days and not 1.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Hobey Baker » Wed 6/23/10 2:20 pm

Federer loses another set but wins in four today 6-3, 6-7 (4), 6-4, 7-6 (5) over Bozoljac
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Re: Tennis

Postby Chris Eckes » Wed 6/23/10 3:13 pm

i can't get the sound at my work... can anyone tell what's going on in that match? did they suspend play for the evening? They're interviewing both the players right now, but I can't tell what's happening.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Chris Eckes » Wed 6/23/10 3:16 pm

From Yahoo Matchcast:

"This set alone is now longer than any match that has ever been played"
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Re: Tennis

Postby gopherguy06 » Wed 6/23/10 3:34 pm

Play suspended for the day. Tied at 59-59 in the 5th set.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Snowcool08 » Wed 6/23/10 4:38 pm

The longest match before this was 6 hrs 33 minutes. Today they played more than 7 hours, so it can't really be discredited because it has gone over 2 days (now 3). The previous combined record for aces in one match was 83 and this match has 192 so far. This match is gonna hold every record by the time it's done. If it ever finishes.
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Re: Tennis

Postby dxmnkd316 » Wed 6/23/10 6:49 pm

Holy :censored:

I couldn't believe this when I saw it on espn's headlines... That's simply amazing.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Jupiter » Thu 6/24/10 10:49 am

We have a winner...

Isner (USA) wins the 5th set 70-68
Total time: 11 hrs, 5 min.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Hobey Baker » Thu 6/24/10 12:38 pm

The fans couldn't get enough.

John McEnroe and Tracy Austin were in attendance to watch the end of the match.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Golden FE Ranger » Thu 6/24/10 12:47 pm

Jupiter wrote:We have a winner...

Isner (USA) wins the 5th set 70-68
Total time: 11 hrs, 5 min.


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Re: Tennis

Postby Kelor » Thu 6/24/10 1:12 pm

That's nothing. I once had my inlaws stay at my house for the weekend. THAT is a long sporting event.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Hobey Baker » Thu 6/24/10 3:36 pm

This event will only grow in scope and significance the farther we are removed from it. The one issue this event is missing is that two of the games top players weren't involved but further down the road it will not matter.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Bushwood Gopher » Thu 6/24/10 4:08 pm

Hobey Baker wrote:This event will only grow in scope and significance the farther we are removed from it. The one issue this event is missing is that two of the games top players weren't involved but further down the road it will not matter.


Most people couldn't care any less about who was playing. And both of these guys will be remembered far longer for this match than if either of them had won Wimbledon.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Hobey Baker » Thu 6/24/10 4:27 pm

Bushwood Gopher wrote:
Hobey Baker wrote:This event will only grow in scope and significance the farther we are removed from it. The one issue this event is missing is that two of the games top players weren't involved but further down the road it will not matter.


Most people couldn't care any less about who was playing. And both of these guys will be remembered far longer for this match than if either of them had won Wimbledon.


Most people didn't care about it earlier in the event because nobody cares about Isner or Manhut. This would have been huge right off the bat if Nadal or Federer had played in the event. As the event became longer and developed over three days, Isner and Manhut as you said will now be rememered for this event alone. As I said in my previous post, this event will only grow bigger in tennis history. Every long match will be compared to this one. All the commentators will comment on this event... it will only get larger!
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Re: Tennis

Postby Snowcool08 » Thu 6/24/10 10:57 pm

Hobey Baker wrote:
Bushwood Gopher wrote:
Hobey Baker wrote:This event will only grow in scope and significance the farther we are removed from it. The one issue this event is missing is that two of the games top players weren't involved but further down the road it will not matter.


Most people couldn't care any less about who was playing. And both of these guys will be remembered far longer for this match than if either of them had won Wimbledon.


Most people didn't care about it earlier in the event because nobody cares about Isner or Manhut. This would have been huge right off the bat if Nadal or Federer had played in the event. As the event became longer and developed over three days, Isner and Manhut as you said will now be rememered for this event alone. As I said in my previous post, this event will only grow bigger in tennis history. Every long match will be compared to this one. All the commentators will comment on this event... it will only get larger!


This match was a perfect storm of great serving, horrible returning, and a fast surface. It will be a long long time before anything similar to this happens again. That said, these two players will be remembered only for this for quite some time. Isner has a chance to make a few runs in quarters and semis of majors, but I don't see anything further coming from him.

I don't agree that this would have been bigger if it was Nadal or Federer was involved. First off, both of them have the returning game to break even the world's best servers at some point (see Federer vs. Roddick Wimbledon 2009 Final). Also, if either of these two were involved, most of the discussion would have been about how poorly they were playing to allow this to happen.
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Re: Tennis

Postby gopher wes » Mon 6/28/10 8:40 am

Anyone catch the Nadal/Petchzner match on Saturday afternoon? There was a bit of controversy as Nadal was accused of being coached by his trainer in their language during an "injury break". He was also asked to stop looking over at his coach who was sitting in the player box at court level. All the while Nadal kept putting his finger over his mouth telling his coach to stop and motioning the same while this was happening. I'm sure this happens all the time, but I have never seen a player get called out for it. Kind of interesting, just curious if anyone else saw it and what their thoughts are.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Snowcool08 » Mon 6/28/10 2:01 pm

Roddick goes down in 5 sets to Yen-Hsun Lu. I've never seen Lu play, but he finally broke Roddick at 8-7 to win it 9-7 in the 5th. That leaves Lu as the only un-ranked player left in the quarterfinals on the men's side.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Hobey Baker » Wed 6/30/10 10:58 am

Federer beaten in 4 sets at Wimbledon by Berdych today. Berdych played well. As it was discussed earlier in the thread, Federer is in a funk or decline. He just didn't look right out there today. His return of serve was horrible and had way too many missed shots. Berdych's forehand was a weapon today.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Hobey Baker » Mon 8/30/10 5:18 pm

2010 US Open begins tonight. Nadal #1 seed and Federer #2.

Federer has hired Paul Annacone (Pete Sampras former coach) to work with him at this years Open and beyond.

Federer plays in tonights first men's night match.

Roddick with an easy victory today (his 28th BDay) 6-3, 6-3, 6-2 over Stephane Robert

#5 Soderling struggled in a 5 set victory. #6 Davydenko in three. #11 Cilic advances. #22 Ferrero also wins.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Snowcool08 » Mon 8/30/10 11:28 pm

This tournament is wide open on the men's side. Nadal has never had much success in the US Open and Federer has slowly been declining the last few years. It will be interesting to see if Andy Murray can finally break through and win a major. As a dark horse, I'll take Mardy Fish to make the semis. He has been playing extremely well lately.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Hobey Baker » Fri 9/03/10 5:19 pm

Snowcool08 wrote:This tournament is wide open on the men's side. Nadal has never had much success in the US Open and Federer has slowly been declining the last few years. It will be interesting to see if Andy Murray can finally break through and win a major. As a dark horse, I'll take Mardy Fish to make the semis. He has been playing extremely well lately.


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Re: Tennis

Postby Hobey Baker » Tue 9/07/10 11:04 am

No unbelievable night matches yet, (Roddick v Tipserivich) was good.

Nadal side of the draw is wide open with the Murray loss.

Federer is going to have to really earn his 6th title w/ Sodderling and Djokivic in his remaining draw.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Bert » Tue 9/07/10 5:21 pm

Hobey Baker wrote:No unbelievable night matches yet, (Roddick v Tipserivich) was good.

Nadal side of the draw is wide open with the Murray loss.

Federer is going to have to really earn his 6th title w/ Sodderling and Djokivic in his remaining draw.


Hobey about about ur guy Fish.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Hobey Baker » Wed 9/08/10 12:19 pm

Fish had nothing and got rolled by Djokovic. He looked tired. It is too bad becasue he had a great hard court season.

Unbelievable matches yesterday with two 5 set thrillers. Verdasco over Ferrer and Wawarinka over Querrey.

Soderling v Federer tonight!!
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Re: Tennis

Postby Snowcool08 » Wed 9/08/10 2:48 pm

Hobey Baker wrote:Fish had nothing and got rolled by Djokovic. He looked tired. It is too bad becasue he had a great hard court season.

Unbelievable matches yesterday with two 5 set thrillers. Verdasco over Ferrer and Wawarinka over Querrey.

Soderling v Federer tonight!!


Soderling has been able to hang with Federer the last few times they've played. I can't wait to watch this one.
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Re: Tennis

Postby ex_goldy » Wed 9/08/10 9:16 pm

Some great tennis. I didn't expect Federer to take the first set, they had some great volleys and Soderling was dominating early. They just interviewed Billy Jean King, she is one old lookin lady dyed hair and white wrinkly skin. Anyone else remember her match with Bobby Riggs?
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Re: Tennis

Postby Hobey Baker » Thu 9/09/10 10:38 am

Snowcool08 wrote:
Hobey Baker wrote:Fish had nothing and got rolled by Djokovic. He looked tired. It is too bad becasue he had a great hard court season.

Unbelievable matches yesterday with two 5 set thrillers. Verdasco over Ferrer and Wawarinka over Querrey.

Soderling v Federer tonight!!


Soderling has been able to hang with Federer the last few times they've played. I can't wait to watch this one.



Soderling had some early break chances in the first and did break late in the third (only to be broken back 2x) but Roger seemed to be in control through out the match. Not a very exciting match but it had its moments.

Verdasco v Nadal

Federer v Djokovic.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Snowcool08 » Sat 9/11/10 4:41 pm

Nadal beat Youzhny earlier today and now Federer and Djokovic are going to a 5th set. Federer seems to be getting broken a lot, not a good thing for him.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Bushwood Gopher » Sat 9/11/10 5:59 pm

What a match. Djokovic shows some serious heart and takes down Federer in 5 sets.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Hobey Baker » Sat 9/11/10 6:27 pm

Federer had two match points but couldn't close. Djokovic hit a couple of unbelievable shots to stay alive. Djokovic has beaten Nadal the last three or four times they have played on the hard courts.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Hobey Baker » Sun 11/28/10 10:52 pm

Federer beats Nadal to win the year end Masters Tournament: 6-3,3-6, 6-1

Federer was much more aggressive in his game plan. For those who are fans, the Tennis channel is replaying the match right now.
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Re: Tennis

Postby ex_goldy » Thu 12/09/10 4:47 pm

Most of Pete Sampres' trophies stolen from a public storage facility in LA.

what kind of low down dirty two bit punk would do that? they have his name on them and the year. Who would buy them knowing they're stolen?

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Re: Tennis

Postby MATT » Thu 12/09/10 5:01 pm

ex_goldy wrote:Most of Pete Sampres' trophies stolen from a public storage facility in LA.

what kind of low down dirty two bit punk would do that? they have his name on them and the year. Who would buy them knowing they're stolen?

http://sports.yahoo.com/tennis/news?slug=capress-ten_sampras_trophies_stolen-5353788

"is like having the history of my tennis life taken away." ...why was it in public storage then? he needs to have a trophy room :lol:
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Re: Tennis

Postby Hobey Baker » Fri 1/21/11 5:11 pm

Venus withdraws /out in Austrailia with injury.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Snowcool08 » Sat 1/22/11 3:25 am

Hobey Baker wrote:Venus withdraws /out in Austrailia with injury.


I was beyond pleased when I saw her hold up and walk towards the chair umpire to retire. I just can't stand her or her sister.

Isner is currently in the 5th set with Marin Cilic and they are tied 7-7. They have already started talking about Isner vs. Mahut last year at Wimbledon that ended witha 5th set of 70-68. Neither Cilic or Isner can break each other's servce, so this might go on for a while.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Slap Shot » Sat 1/22/11 3:56 am

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Hobey Baker wrote:Venus withdraws /out in Austrailia with injury.


I was beyond pleased when I saw her hold up and walk towards the chair umpire to retire. I just can't stand her or her sister.


I don't get this. You may not like either one of them but I would prefer that the majors include the best players available - likeable or not.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Snowcool08 » Sat 1/22/11 4:12 am

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Hobey Baker wrote:Venus withdraws /out in Austrailia with injury.


I was beyond pleased when I saw her hold up and walk towards the chair umpire to retire. I just can't stand her or her sister.


I don't get this. You may not like either one of them but I would prefer that the majors include the best players available - likeable or not.


I just think that the only thing they do well is overpower their opponents. Sure they have a lot of skill, but they have a very basic and boring approach which is to hit it hard and hope for the best. It's not very entertaining to me.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Slap Shot » Sat 1/22/11 4:22 am

Snowcool08 wrote:I just think that the only thing they do well is overpower their opponents. Sure they have a lot of skill, but they have a very basic and boring approach which is to hit it hard and hope for the best. It's not very entertaining to me.


So you would have preferred not to see Sampras play either?
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Re: Tennis

Postby Bushwood Gopher » Sat 1/22/11 4:30 am

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Snowcool08 wrote:I just think that the only thing they do well is overpower their opponents. Sure they have a lot of skill, but they have a very basic and boring approach which is to hit it hard and hope for the best. It's not very entertaining to me.


So you would have preferred not to see Sampras play either?


Sampras was nowhere near that one dimensional. In addition to his power he played the net well too. He is undoubtedly Top 3 all time of serve and volley players--the only two I would include at or near his equal would be McEnroe for sure and probably Stefan Edberg. At least in the modern era.
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Postby Slap Shot » Sat 1/22/11 4:43 am

Ok, perhaps a bad example although Pete was a very powerful server that didn't have to approach the net very often and most of his domination came away from the net. My point being is that I'd rather see the best players available regardless of my personal thoughts about their style of play.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Hobey Baker » Mon 1/24/11 5:07 pm

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Snowcool08 wrote:I just think that the only thing they do well is overpower their opponents. Sure they have a lot of skill, but they have a very basic and boring approach which is to hit it hard and hope for the best. It's not very entertaining to me.


So you would have preferred not to see Sampras play either?


Sampras was nowhere near that one dimensional. In addition to his power he played the net well too. He is undoubtedly Top 3 all time of serve and volley players--the only two I would include at or near his equal would be McEnroe for sure and probably Stefan Edberg. At least in the modern era.


You need to add Pat Rafter from the Sampras / Edberg era also. He won a couple of US Opens with his serve and volley.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Maize » Mon 1/24/11 5:30 pm

I wouldn't put Sampras in the serve-and-volley category. To me, the best at that is always going to be the Aussies: Pat Rafter, Pat Cash, John Newcombe, etc.

Side note: I'm still rocking the Pat Rafter model Prince racket. I may own the last three on the planet, but that was a great racket.
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Postby Hobey Baker » Mon 1/24/11 5:40 pm

Maize wrote:I wouldn't put Sampras in the serve-and-volley category. To me, the best at that is always going to be the Aussies: Pat Rafter, Pat Cash, John Newcombe, etc.

Side note: I'm still rocking the Pat Rafter model Prince racket. I may own the last three on the planet, but that was a great racket.


Sampras had a big time serve and volley with dominating ground strokes (especially forehand / underated backhand). That is why he won so many majors .. including Wimbledon and the US Open.

In my opinion, if Federer can become more comfortable with the serve and volley / agressivenss, he will continue to be a force and extend his career. You can see the effects Paul Annacone (his coach) is having on his game.
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Postby Maize » Tue 1/25/11 12:01 pm

Hobey Baker wrote:Sampras had a big time serve and volley with dominating ground strokes (especially forehand / underated backhand). That is why he won so many majors .. including Wimbledon and the US Open.


Sampras had a great serve, and is easily the best clutch server of all-time. The reason I don't put him in the same category as true serve-and-volleyers is that for the most part, he was only coming to the net when he was in a strong position and was looking to finish off points. He wasn't coming into the net off everything and using his volleys to create opportunities for himself the way somebody like Rafter or Cash did.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Hobey Baker » Tue 1/25/11 12:11 pm

Maize wrote:
Hobey Baker wrote:Sampras had a big time serve and volley with dominating ground strokes (especially forehand / underated backhand). That is why he won so many majors .. including Wimbledon and the US Open.


Sampras had a great serve, and is easily the best clutch server of all-time. The reason I don't put him in the same category as true serve-and-volleyers is that for the most part, he was only coming to the net when he was in a strong position and was looking to finish off points. He wasn't coming into the net off everything and using his volleys to create opportunities for himself the way somebody like Rafter or Cash did.


Agree with your assesment compared to Rafter or Cash but disagree with "only coming to the net when he was in strong position". He didn't win 7 Wimbledon's only coming to the net in strong position. What seperated Pete from Andre was his serve and volley abilities. What seperated Pete from Rafter was his ground strokes. Pete had the entire game.
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Postby Slap Shot » Tue 1/25/11 12:49 pm

We'll agree to disagree, but I am with Maize - Sampras was great at S&V when he employed the technique, but didn't as often as the typical player of that style and I'm fairly confident won as many points from the baseline as at the net.
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Postby Hobey Baker » Wed 1/26/11 1:28 pm

Slap Shot wrote:We'll agree to disagree, but I am with Maize - Sampras was great at S&V when he employed the technique, but didn't as often as the typical player of that style and I'm fairly confident won as many points from the baseline as at the net.


The main point is that he was one of the best ever to serve and volley, regardless if that was his entire game or not.

Rafa out in Austrailia. He was beaten in straights by Ferrer 4,2, and 3. Rafa was injured or suffering the effects of a virus that he had gotten 2 weeks earlier. Rafa wouldn't say what was troubling him but it was apparent from the begining that Rafa was uncomfortable and not on the top of his game.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Chris Eckes » Wed 1/26/11 1:32 pm

I dunno... he looked pretty dang good against whomever he was playing the round before (forgot his name) and he said in his post-match interview that he felt a lot better. Maybe he just wasn't the better tennis player that day?
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Postby Hobey Baker » Wed 1/26/11 1:59 pm

The X Factor wrote:I dunno... he looked pretty dang good against whomever he was playing the round before (forgot his name) and he said in his post-match interview that he felt a lot better. Maybe he just wasn't the better tennis player that day?


You are correct in saying that Rafa said he felt much better after beating Cilic.

I actually watched the match. He was complaining on the first change and asked for the trainor. He wasn't moving well and going after shots like he usually does. He was doing a certain stretch while he was sitting down. He was not well. P. McEnroe was talking about the fact that Rafa was losing 6-8 pounds per match because he was sweating so much in earlier matches.. connecting it to the virus he had gotten 2 weeks earlier.

You could see that something was bothering Rafa.
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Postby Chris Eckes » Wed 1/26/11 2:17 pm

Thanks for the report Hobey :)

Still should be a good semifinal. Ferrer-Murray and probably Djokovic-Federer. Both great matches, and the final should be good no matter what!
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Postby Bushwood Gopher » Wed 1/26/11 3:46 pm

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Snowcool08 wrote:I just think that the only thing they do well is overpower their opponents. Sure they have a lot of skill, but they have a very basic and boring approach which is to hit it hard and hope for the best. It's not very entertaining to me.


So you would have preferred not to see Sampras play either?


Sampras was nowhere near that one dimensional. In addition to his power he played the net well too. He is undoubtedly Top 3 all time of serve and volley players--the only two I would include at or near his equal would be McEnroe for sure and probably Stefan Edberg. At least in the modern era.


You need to add Pat Rafter from the Sampras / Edberg era also. He won a couple of US Opens with his serve and volley.


No question about it. Rafter might have been my favorite tennis player ever--it's just his overall impact on the game was less than the 3 others I mentioned. After we were throwing this topic around, I googled "serve and volley greats" and this popped up. Just one guy's opinion but it's an interesting list.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4179 ... modern-era
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Postby Hobey Baker » Wed 1/26/11 4:11 pm

I cant believe I forgot Becker. It is too bad because the older Becker got the more he wanted to beat the baseliners by out hitting them!
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Postby Snowcool08 » Wed 1/26/11 6:20 pm

Rafa was hurt against Ferrer. The announcers thought that he might have tweaked his hamstring/lower back in the match against Cilic and just played through it. If he did it then or against Ferrer, it came out of nowhere. He was walking fine and just took an injury timeout after a couple of games. He had his upper thigh wrapped and he looked like he was going through the motions to get it over with. Still a couple of great matches left for the semis on both men's and women's side.
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Postby Chris83 » Thu 1/27/11 7:03 am

Djokovic dumps Federer in straight sets; he will play either Ferrer or Murray.
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Postby Hobey Baker » Thu 1/27/11 12:10 pm

Chris83 wrote:Djokovic dumps Federer in straight sets; he will play either Ferrer or Murray.

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Re: Tennis

Postby Chris Eckes » Thu 1/27/11 12:11 pm

Sounds like a really good match, wish I would have seen it!
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Postby Hobey Baker » Thu 1/27/11 12:13 pm

The X Factor wrote:Sounds like a really good match, wish I would have seen it!


I woke up and watched part of it and they were pounding the ball. I am sure they will replay it today for more to watch.
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Re: Tennis

Postby Hobey Baker » Fri 1/28/11 11:38 am

Murray v Djokovic Final.
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Postby Hobey Baker » Tue 5/17/11 11:31 am

I should have been on here a lot sooner to discuss the run Djokovic is on. He has won 37 consecutive matches without a loss this year. The streak is second only to the 42- 0 start that McEnroe had. This includes three wins over Federer and two or three wins over Nadal (one on clay). Very impressive streak!!!!
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Postby Hobey Baker » Tue 5/31/11 10:34 pm

French Open is setting up to be very good.

Federer and Djokovic are in the semi's. Nadal (v Soderling)and Murray (v Chela) with a chance to join them.

Nadal looking to tie Borgs record of titles at 6.
Djokovic looking to continue his unbeaten streak.
Federer looking to add to his Slam titles.
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Postby Snowcool08 » Wed 6/01/11 12:14 am

Djokovic getting a bye in the quarters sucks. Now if he wins the French, he would only tie the record for longest win streak instead of beating it. Federer is gonna be a tough task for Djokivic because he seems comfortable out there. In years past he just didn't seem comfortable on the clay and won with more skill instead of out-playing opponents. That said, Djokovic is going to win the tourney and beat Nadal in the final. Nadal is looking very beatable this year.
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Postby Hobey Baker » Wed 6/01/11 9:36 pm

Nadal and Murray win to join Federer and Djockovic in the Semi's at Roland Garros.
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Postby Snowcool08 » Thu 6/02/11 12:56 am

I like Sharapova over Schiavone on the women's side and Djokovic over Nadal on the men's. I wouldn't be surprised if any of the men remaining won. Especially since Murray tweaked his ankle and will try to hit early winners, which he has successfully done for two straight matches.
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