Fantasy Football 2012

by **Snowcool08** » Mon 8/20/12 12:40 am

It's that time of the year again. I've created a 14 team league for GPL users. First come, first serve (I'll make an exception for psych since he asked for it specifically in the dumb questions thread. If he's not in, I'll kick out the last person to let him in).

Edit: It's a yahoo league. Follow this link and click on join league. http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/signup

League ID: 616390

Password: gogophers

Draft: Tuesday, Sept 4th. 9:00 pm.

Review the league rules and if you think anything needs to be changed, we can discuss it. I can also change the draft time if that does not work for everyone.

p.s. Sorry mods for making a new thread. The other fantasy football thread's title was not quality enough for some on this board.

by **psych** » Mon 8/20/12 10:51 am

I am in! Thank you for setting this up.

by **Hammy** » Mon 8/20/12 11:00 am

What site do you use and where do I go to review rules? I may be down for this.

by **psych** » Mon 8/20/12 11:02 am

Hammy wrote:What site do you use and where do I go to review rules? I may be down for this.

Yahoo. Here is the link to the rules for the league.

http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/616390/settings

by **Hammy** » Mon 8/20/12 11:08 am

Curious about one thing... you give points for a player that gets a TD return? So hypothetically, you could get 12 pts. if your team had the player and had the D/ST he is on?

by **psych** » Mon 8/20/12 11:22 am

Hammy wrote:Curious about one thing... you give points for a player that gets a TD return? So hypothetically, you could get 12 pts. if your team had the player and had the D/ST he is on?

Good question that I am not entirely sure of the answer to. My guess is that it would only count towards the D/ST score since that person is part of the D/ST unit and not counted as an individual, but since I have little experience with fantasy football and never had this particular scenario play out, I cannot say for sure.

by **gopherguy13** » Mon 8/20/12 11:53 am

I am in! (Ponder Promised Land)

And I will make the same suggestion that I do in every FF league I am in: Is there a reason we aren't using fractional scoring?

IMO, 99 yards should = 9.9 points, not 9 points. Why not get credit for those 9 yards?

by **gondo** » Mon 8/20/12 12:06 pm

Same as real football.

If you only go 9 yards, you don't get a first down.
If you drive 99 yards to the 1 foot line, you don't get any points.

by **Snowcool08** » Mon 8/20/12 1:33 pm

psych wrote:
Hammy wrote:Curious about one thing... you give points for a player that gets a TD return? So hypothetically, you could get 12 pts. if your team had the player and had the D/ST he is on?

Good question that I am not entirely sure of the answer to. My guess is that it would only count towards the D/ST score since that person is part of the D/ST unit and not counted as an individual, but since I have little experience with fantasy football and never had this particular scenario play out, I cannot say for sure.

Theoretically you can get 12 points for one TD if you have Percy Harvin and the Vikings D/ST if he returns a TD. It is a quirk in the scoring, but it happens so infrequently that it really doesn't matter much.

by **Bertogliat** » Mon 8/20/12 1:52 pm

Snowcool08 wrote:
psych wrote:
Hammy wrote:Curious about one thing... you give points for a player that gets a TD return? So hypothetically, you could get 12 pts. if your team had the player and had the D/ST he is on?

Good question that I am not entirely sure of the answer to. My guess is that it would only count towards the D/ST score since that person is part of the D/ST unit and not counted as an individual, but since I have little experience with fantasy football and never had this particular scenario play out, I cannot say for sure.

Theoretically you can get 12 points for one TD if you have Percy Harvin and the Vikings D/ST if he returns a TD. It is a quirk in the scoring, but it happens so infrequently that it really doesn't matter much.

In my league we deduct 6 points from Percy. If it factors into the W/L result, the Commish makes the change.

by **Hammy** » Mon 8/20/12 2:09 pm

Snowcool08 wrote:
psych wrote:
Hammy wrote:Curious about one thing... you give points for a player that gets a TD return? So hypothetically, you could get 12 pts. if your team had the player and had the D/ST he is on?

Good question that I am not entirely sure of the answer to. My guess is that it would only count towards the D/ST score since that person is part of the D/ST unit and not counted as an individual, but since I have little experience with fantasy football and never had this particular scenario play out, I cannot say for sure.

Theoretically you can get 12 points for one TD if you have Percy Harvin and the Vikings D/ST if he returns a TD. It is a quirk in the scoring, but it happens so infrequently that it really doesn't matter much.

I was just curious as I have never been in a league where an individual player was given points for a kickoff/punt return TD.

by **Armadillo** » Mon 8/20/12 2:41 pm

In. Y'all gonna destroy me.

by **gopher wes** » Mon 8/20/12 2:43 pm

Armadillo wrote:In. Y'all except for gopher wes gonna destroy me.

FYP

by **gopheritall** » Mon 8/20/12 3:35 pm

Hammy wrote:
Snowcool08 wrote:
psych wrote:
Hammy wrote:Curious about one thing... you give points for a player that gets a TD return? So hypothetically, you could get 12 pts. if your team had the player and had the D/ST he is on?

Good question that I am not entirely sure of the answer to. My guess is that it would only count towards the D/ST score since that person is part of the D/ST unit and not counted as an individual, but since I have little experience with fantasy football and never had this particular scenario play out, I cannot say for sure.

Theoretically you can get 12 points for one TD if you have Percy Harvin and the Vikings D/ST if he returns a TD. It is a quirk in the scoring, but it happens so infrequently that it really doesn't matter much.

I was just curious as I have never been in a league where an individual player was given points for a kickoff/punt return TD.

Most of mine don't allow it (player credit for a returned TD) but I have never understood the issue with double points. I don't see a difference between having that and a WR/QB from the same team. You get more than 1 player with credit for the same score (typically 6+4, 6+3, or 6+6). I don't see how the D/ST position is any different. As long as everyone knows at the draft what the scoring is it is fair to all.

I am also a fan of decimal scoring because it avoids ties which are a giant PIA in fantasy football. It is the only fair way to break a tie, IMO.

by **Hammy** » Mon 8/20/12 4:36 pm

I tend to like smaller leagues than 14 (I am usually in 10 team leagues) but I may join in.

by **gopherguy13** » Mon 8/20/12 5:23 pm

14 teamers can be fun. Really makes the middle rounds of the draft critical. Miss on rounds 4-6 and there's a solid chance you'll be screwed :lol:

by **Snowcool08** » Mon 8/20/12 8:29 pm

I only made the league 14 teams so more people could join. I can easily change the scoring to decimal scoring and the special teams/returner TD rule if enough people want it changed.

by **psych** » Mon 8/20/12 8:42 pm

Snowcool08 wrote:I only made the league 14 teams so more people could join. I can easily change the scoring to decimal scoring and the special teams/returner TD rule if enough people want it changed.

I would prefer decimal scoring since I tied my first game last year and that kind of pissed me off, but it is not a big deal if it remains unchanged. I have never had the second scenario happen, so I am cool with either way there.

by **Dances With Gophers** » Mon 8/20/12 10:36 pm

Sweet! In.

by **The Rube** » Mon 8/20/12 11:12 pm

As a 21 year vet of FFL (the upcoming year will be my 22nd), decimal scoring sucks.

A player should not get double points, it SHOULD just go to the D/ST as that is the "group" that the player is a part of on that play. This changes if a league does not have D/ST though. Then the points DO go to the indiviual player (and adds a touch of strategery when drafting players).

I will not be joining this year. I'm already in two leagues, and I've found that that is about my limit. FFL is the one fantasy sport I care about the most, and I got burned out last year being in 3 leagues, all with different scoring. :oops:

by **gopherguy13** » Mon 8/20/12 11:26 pm

The Rube wrote:As a 21 year vet of FFL (the upcoming year will be my 22nd), decimal scoring sucks.

Why?

by **The Rube** » Mon 8/20/12 11:29 pm

gopherguy13 wrote:
The Rube wrote:As a 21 year vet of FFL (the upcoming year will be my 22nd), decimal scoring sucks.

Why?

For the previous reason that was stated. You get 9.9 yards? That's not a first down. You need 10. There are absolutes in football, as there should be in FFL. I have no horror story about fractional scoring, mind you. But if you want FFL to be the most like real football, which was its intended purpose back in the 70's, fractional scoring has no place in FFL, period.

by **gopherguy13** » Mon 8/20/12 11:38 pm

The Rube wrote:
gopherguy13 wrote:
The Rube wrote:As a 21 year vet of FFL (the upcoming year will be my 22nd), decimal scoring sucks.

Why?

For the previous reason that was stated. You get 9.9 yards? That's not a first down. You need 10. There are absolutes in football, as there should be in FFL. I have no horror story about fractional scoring, mind you. But if you want FFL to be the most like real football, which was its intended purpose back in the 70's, fractional scoring has no place in FFL, period.

Can't really argue with that.

I still like fractional scoring because I hate ties, but I get where you're coming from.

by **psych** » Mon 8/20/12 11:42 pm

The Rube wrote:
gopherguy13 wrote:
The Rube wrote:As a 21 year vet of FFL (the upcoming year will be my 22nd), decimal scoring sucks.

Why?

For the previous reason that was stated. You get 9.9 yards? That's not a first down. You need 10. There are absolutes in football, as there should be in FFL. I have no horror story about fractional scoring, mind you. But if you want FFL to be the most like real football, which was its intended purpose back in the 70's, fractional scoring has no place in FFL, period.

Someone who has two RBs that ran for 49 yards and 59 yards should not have the same scoring as someone who has two RBs who ran for 41 yards and 51 yards. That is 16 yards difference, which, in your argument, is more than a first down's worth of yardage, so therefore should count more.

Again, I do not care if decimal scoring is added or not, but I do not agree with the argument Brent is making.

by **The Rube** » Mon 8/20/12 11:43 pm

gopherguy13 wrote:
The Rube wrote:
gopherguy13 wrote:
The Rube wrote:As a 21 year vet of FFL (the upcoming year will be my 22nd), decimal scoring sucks.

Why?

For the previous reason that was stated. You get 9.9 yards? That's not a first down. You need 10. There are absolutes in football, as there should be in FFL. I have no horror story about fractional scoring, mind you. But if you want FFL to be the most like real football, which was its intended purpose back in the 70's, fractional scoring has no place in FFL, period.

Can't really argue with that.

I still like fractional scoring because I hate ties, but I get where you're coming from.

I also hate ties. I've seen playoff losses/entries decided on ties. It's horrible. But that is the way it is. Not kidding, one year, my division (6 team divisions, 12 team league) the LAST PLACE TEAM had a 6-8 record. First place? 8-6. Yeah, there were some tie breakers in there. IIRC, 3-4 tie games during the season. I, luckily, was on the good side and made the playoffs.

I still hate fractional scoring. "Gimme one more tackle and I get .03 points and win the game YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"

by **The Rube** » Mon 8/20/12 11:46 pm

psych wrote:
The Rube wrote:
gopherguy13 wrote:
The Rube wrote:As a 21 year vet of FFL (the upcoming year will be my 22nd), decimal scoring sucks.

Why?

For the previous reason that was stated. You get 9.9 yards? That's not a first down. You need 10. There are absolutes in football, as there should be in FFL. I have no horror story about fractional scoring, mind you. But if you want FFL to be the most like real football, which was its intended purpose back in the 70's, fractional scoring has no place in FFL, period.

Someone who has two RBs that ran for 49 yards and 59 yards should not have the same scoring as someone who has two RBs who ran for 41 yards and 51 yards. That is 16 yards difference, which, in your argument, is more than a first down's worth of yardage, so therefore should count more.

Again, I do not care if decimal scoring is added or not, but I do not agree with the argument Brent is making.

The NFL marks 1000 yd rush/receivers. 100 yard games for both. 300 yd games for QBs. Yes, the NFL is arbitrary, but that's the system they use. Why deviate from that, if you want FFL to be like NFL (as close to possible)? :wink:

by **Slap Shot** » Tue 8/21/12 8:28 am

The NFL also awards 49 yards when a runner finishes a game with 49 yards rather than cutting it off at 40, all of which contributes towards the season long total. I thought the 49 and 59 vs. 41 and 51 example used was a very good example in favor of fractional scoring. And the game you'd be playing wouldn't award 9.9 yards which even the NFL doesn't measure, but 9.9 points which is part of a fantasy football game. :wink:

by **fishingmn** » Tue 8/21/12 8:55 am

I joined just now - still 4 spots left

by **Hammy** » Tue 8/21/12 8:55 am

I can understand both sides but I've never been in a league with fractional scoring. If we wanted to break a tie, we'd use something like who had the highest bench scoring, etc.

by **gopheritall** » Sat 8/25/12 5:19 pm

The Rube wrote:
gopherguy13 wrote:
The Rube wrote:As a 21 year vet of FFL (the upcoming year will be my 22nd), decimal scoring sucks.

Why?

For the previous reason that was stated. You get 9.9 yards? That's not a first down. You need 10. There are absolutes in football, as there should be in FFL. I have no horror story about fractional scoring, mind you. But if you want FFL to be the most like real football, which was its intended purpose back in the 70's, fractional scoring has no place in FFL, period.

This argument means that you should be in a TD/FG/XP only league. NFL teams do not get points for yardage, period. Also, only the player scoring the TD should get points, not a QB passing it. And nothing for tackles, turnovers, fumble recoveries, etc. Only pure scoring like in the NFL. My point is, fantasy football is "fantasy" and not real NFL. For those that want "real" football, just qualify for the NFL and get out on the field. Since I can't I prefer FFB.

Plus number of years playing FFB doesn't matter. My 20 years would counter yours and I prefer decimal scoring and performance based leagues.

by **The Rube** » Sat 8/25/12 8:22 pm

I play in a league that is pretty much TD only. The yardage points we get are minimal (for 100/150/200 yds rush/rec and 300/400/500 yds passing milestones). :lol:

Rush TD = 6 and Pass/Rec TD =3 (the qb gets as many points as the rec on a TD; in other words, they "split" the 6 pts a TD is worth).
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by **gopheritall** » Sun 8/26/12 1:22 pm

The beauty of FFB is that you can almost always find some league that scores the way you want. The scoring above would drive me crazy but understand why someone would think it is better. The 3/3 scoring at least backs up your argument on return TDs.

If I ever get divorced it will be over FFB and I won't notice until I unfairly get eliminated in the first round of the playoffs by an undeserving team.

by **Armadillo** » Sun 8/26/12 4:15 pm

My lineup in my main league, picked 6th out of 10 players:

QB
Philip Rivers
Joe Flacco
Jake Locker

RB
Jamaal Charles
Ryan Matthews
Peyton Hillis
Rashad Jennings

WR/TE
Calvin Johnson
Demaryius Thomas
Jermichael Finley
Sidney Rice

DEF
San Francisco

IDP
Desmond Bishop

K
Mason Crosby

by **Slap Shot** » Sun 8/26/12 5:54 pm

Just finished (drafted 3rd):

3 Tom Brady, NE QB
18 DeMarco Murray, Dal RB
23 Wes Welker, NE WR
38 Percy Harvin, Min WR
43 BenJarvus Green-Ellis, Cin RB
58 Antonio Brown, Pit WR
63 Isaac Redman, Pit RB
78 Fred Davis, Wsh TE
83 Lance Moore, NO WR
98 Donald Brown, Ind RB
103 Darrius Heyward-Bey, Oak WR
118 Michael Crabtree, SF WR
123 Jacquizz Rodgers, Atl RB
138 Sebastian Janikowski, Oak K
143 Falcons D/ST D/ST
158 Kyle Rudolph, Min TE

by **freighttrain** » Sun 8/26/12 8:09 pm

Armadillo wrote:My lineup in my main league, picked 6th out of 10 players:

QB
Philip Rivers
Joe Flacco
Jake Locker

RB
Jamaal Charles
Ryan Matthews
Peyton Hillis
Rashad Jennings

WR/TE
Calvin Johnson
Demaryius Thomas
Jermichael Finley
Sidney Rice

DEF
San Francisco

IDP
Desmond Bishop

K
Mason Crosby

might wanna pick up a new IDP. Bishop is done for the season or at least a good part of it.

by **The Rube** » Sun 8/26/12 10:00 pm

Drafted today, with any particular notes following the player. No required TE, but must start 3 WR/TE players. I picked 5th/12, serpentine draft:

QB
Tony Romo (wanted Stafford in the 2nd rd, guy before me took him; got Romo in the 7th)
Andy Dalton

RB
Ray Rice (are you kidding me? Fifth overall?! Thank you, God!)
Michael Turner
Cedric Benson
Rashard Mendenhall (yes, I know he's out for 6 weeks)
LeRon Mc'Clain
Joe McKnight

WR
Jordy Nelson
Wes Welker
Marques Colston
Jermaine Gresham
Kevin Walter
Brent Celek

Team K
HOU
MN

Cam went 7th overall :shock:

and 3 of the top 7 picks were QBs, which is a DRASTIC change and quite a shock given the RB-heavy tendencies in our league. After the first round, everyone pretty much threw their predictions/mock drafts out of the window. All of our minds were blown.

Edit:
My longtime division rival stole Rashad Jennings and Kendall Wright from me in the rounds I was planning on taking them. :chainsaw:

When he drafted Jennings, my exact words were "MOTHER :censored:

SUCKER!" and threw my cheat sheets across the room. :oops:

by **Hammy** » Sun 8/26/12 11:27 pm

I was at #5 overall in one draft and #7 in another. I had McCoy drop to me at #5 in the one draft and I picked Megatron at #7 in the other.

I understand the desire to pick a top QB in the first round but I really don't see a massive difference in that position among the top 6 or so QBs.

by **The Rube** » Sun 8/26/12 11:48 pm

Hammy wrote:I was at #5 overall in one draft and #7 in another. I had McCoy drop to me at #5 in the one draft and I picked Megatron at #7 in the other.

I understand the desire to pick a top QB in the first round but I really don't see a massive difference in that position among the top 6 or so QBs.

Depending on scoring, it is indeed top 3 or top 6. After that....hooooboy dropoff. Hence my Romo pick in the 7th.

WR's are even a bigger dropoff.

by **Hammy** » Mon 8/27/12 10:39 am

I actually think WR is a pretty deep position. Yes, maybe after the top 1 or 2 there is a drop off as there usually is but I don't think it is THAT steep to the next tier. You can still find a lot of quality WRs after the first few rounds IMO

by **psych** » Tue 8/28/12 10:35 am

I just noticed today that I work until 9:15 p.m. on Tuesday, Sept. 4th (when the draft is at 9 p.m.) Any chance we can change days or push back the time? If not, I suppose I can figure out how to "pre-draft" my players.

by **Beauner** » Tue 8/28/12 3:10 pm

psych wrote:I just noticed today that I work until 9:15 p.m. on Tuesday, Sept. 4th (when the draft is at 9 p.m.) Any chance we can change days or push back the time? If not, I suppose I can figure out how to "pre-draft" my players.

I would support changing dates too, I have another draft set for 9pm that night. If it's inconvenient for others I'll just have a friend draft my team.

by **Snowcool08** » Wed 8/29/12 1:06 am

If we get enough people to agree, we can change the time of the draft. I put it on a Tuesday night because of the Labor Day weekend.

As of now, we only have 12 people in the league. Some people expressed concerns about too many people in the league. I can stop it now at 12 and that's still a very solid league. Thoughts?

by **mjarz02** » Wed 8/29/12 9:25 am

Snowcool08 wrote:If we get enough people to agree, we can change the time of the draft. I put it on a Tuesday night because of the Labor Day weekend.

As of now, we only have 12 people in the league. Some people expressed concerns about too many people in the league. I can stop it now at 12 and that's still a very solid league. Thoughts?

I can do it Friday and Tuesday, possibly late Monday but traffic will be bad coming back from the cabin!

by **fishingmn** » Wed 8/29/12 10:00 am

Later Tuesday is fine with me but I'd have a hard time doing it Friday - Monday. Tons of stuff planned this weekend with guests and parties including large family gathering at our house on Monday. If the consensus is to move it to a different day I can try to pre-rank I guess.

12 is fine - getting kind of late to find people.

by **gopher wes** » Wed 8/29/12 10:57 am

I don't think I will be able to make the draft. Monday I will be at the Fair all day and Tuesday I have softball. Does that bother you guys?

by **gopherguy13** » Wed 8/29/12 11:14 am

gopher wes wrote:I don't think I will be able to make the draft. Monday I will be at the Fair all day and Tuesday I have softball. Does that bother you guys?

by **gopher wes** » Wed 8/29/12 11:31 am

Thanks, gg13

I know some of you guys love the live draft, but I don't have all sorts of time to make that work. I do one live(actually in person) draft for a league that I have been playing in since I was in like 5th grade and that is really the only fantasy league that I set aside time for.

by **Loc85** » Wed 8/29/12 3:23 pm

13th team in! just need one more.

I vote yes to fractional scoring. Tiebreakers/ties are usually a mess, especially bench points, just load the team up with quarterbacks.

As for return touchdowns, I say give it to the individual player, I like the idea of rewarding a position player for being dynamic (ffb allows quarterbacks to run for a touchdown, running backs to receive, etc.). Return players are typically on the field for less snaps due to the endurance issue anyway. Besides, I like the idea of team defense without mixing in special teams. Just my take.

by **Hammy** » Wed 8/29/12 6:11 pm

So which GPLers are in the league?

by **psych** » Wed 8/29/12 6:37 pm

Hammy wrote:So which GPLers are in the league?

Looks like me, DWG, Beauner, jallengarry, gopher wes, snowcool, 'dillo, and 6 other gentlemen whose names I do not recognize.

by **gopherguy13** » Wed 8/29/12 6:51 pm

psych wrote:
Hammy wrote:So which GPLers are in the league?

Looks like me, DWG, Beauner, jallengarry, gopher wes, snowcool, 'dillo, and 6 other gentlemen whose names I do not recognize.

I am the Ponder Promised Land

by **Armadillo** » Wed 8/29/12 6:56 pm

gopherguy13 wrote:
psych wrote:
Hammy wrote:So which GPLers are in the league?

Looks like me, DWG, Beauner, jallengarry, gopher wes, snowcool, 'dillo, and 6 other gentlemen whose names I do not recognize.

I am the Ponder Promised Land

Just kidding, of course. I'm "We Friggin' Suck."

by **GopherFan85** » Wed 8/29/12 9:47 pm

psych wrote:
Hammy wrote:So which GPLers are in the league?

Looks like me, DWG, Beauner, jallengarry, gopher wes, snowcool, 'dillo, and 6 other gentlemen whose names I do not recognize.

I'm No Kick Return TD's

by **SkiUMahLaw** » Thu 8/30/12 7:23 am

I'm not huge on FF, but heard about this on the drive in from 93X. Thought the crew here may enjoy it.

And the girl in here can make more videos any time.

by **Loc85** » Thu 8/30/12 8:48 am

psych wrote:
Hammy wrote:So which GPLers are in the league?

Looks like me, DWG, Beauner, jallengarry, gopher wes, snowcool, 'dillo, and 6 other gentlemen whose names I do not recognize.

Cassel Grayskull

by **Loc85** » Thu 8/30/12 8:53 am

SkiUMahLaw wrote:I'm not huge on FF, but heard about this on the drive in from 93X. Thought the crew here may enjoy it.

And the girl in here can make more videos any time.

I love the Tebow up the escalator

by **fishingmn** » Fri 8/31/12 5:59 pm

psych wrote:
Hammy wrote:So which GPLers are in the league?

Looks like me, DWG, Beauner, jallengarry, gopher wes, snowcool, 'dillo, and 6 other gentlemen whose names I do not recognize.

me

Guess I need to post here more

by **Snowcool08** » Sun 9/02/12 3:39 am

We still need one more person for our fantasy league. I think it needs to be filled 24 hours before the draft or they make you change the draft date. If you were on the fence about joining, just do it. It's for free and fun and best of all, bragging rights are on the line.

by **Armadillo** » Sun 9/02/12 10:02 am

In a live draft right now. First five picks:

1. Foster
2. Rice
3. Rodgers
4. Brees
5. Brady

3 of the first are QBS? Are these people high?

by **The Rube** » Sun 9/02/12 10:24 am

Armadillo wrote:In a live draft right now. First five picks:

1. Foster
2. Rice
3. Rodgers
4. Brees
5. Brady

3 of the first are QBS? Are these people high?

3 of our first 7 picks in our RB-heavy/TD-heavy league were QBs. Including Cam Newton. :shock:

by **Armadillo** » Sun 9/02/12 10:40 am

OK, here's my results, picking 2nd out of 8:

QB: Matthew Stafford
RB: Ray Rice
RB: Michael Turner
WR: Andre Johnson
WR: Roddy White
WR: Mike Wallace
TE: Jermaine Gresham
TE: Greg Olsen
K: Mason Crosby
DEF: San Francisco
BN: Joe Flacco
BN: Ahmad Bradshaw
BN: Beanie Wells
BN: Peyton Hillis
BN: Jeremy Maclin
BN: Lance Moore

Lots of friggin' WR/TE in this league.

by **gopherguy13** » Sun 9/02/12 10:51 am

Armadillo wrote:In a live draft right now. First five picks:

1. Foster
2. Rice
3. Rodgers
4. Brees
5. Brady

3 of the first are QBS? Are these people high?

6 pts for a passing TD? If so, that's not really that crazy.

I personally wouldn't do it, but those 3 QB's are pretty likely to put up a ton of points.

by **Armadillo** » Sun 9/02/12 10:56 am

gopherguy13 wrote:
Armadillo wrote:In a live draft right now. First five picks:

1. Foster
2. Rice
3. Rodgers
4. Brees
5. Brady

3 of the first are QBS? Are these people high?

6 pts for a passing TD? If so, that's not really that crazy.

I personally wouldn't do it, but those 3 QB's are pretty likely to put up a ton of points.

Nope.

Rush TD: 6
Rec. TD: 6
Pass TD: 4
1 pt./10 Rush Yards
1 pt./10 Rec. Yards
1 pt./25 Pass Yards

by **Slap Shot** » Sun 9/02/12 11:30 am

Armadillo wrote:In a live draft right now. First five picks:

1. Foster
2. Rice
3. Rodgers
4. Brees
5. Brady

3 of the first are QBS? Are these people high?

In a pass-happy NFL they're not. Consistency wise, QB and TE are probably the best value you can get if you can nab one of the best 1-4 early in FF unless perhaps you're in a PPR league. RB is still a great value but too many top tier RBs find themselves out of the top 10 in scoring over the course of a season from week to week, far more often than QB and TE. Two years ago I had Vick, AP and Hillis but still lost in the championship game because by then Vick and leveled off and I had marginal to terrible TE/WR.

by **Hammy** » Sun 9/02/12 12:00 pm

Armadillo wrote:In a live draft right now. First five picks:

1. Foster
2. Rice
3. Rodgers
4. Brees
5. Brady

3 of the first are QBS? Are these people high?

Because of last year's passing numbers, I feel QBs are being a little overvalued this year. However, I don't find any fault in taking those three guys in the top 10 (although I am not sure I see Brees or Brady as top 5 guys).

I felt I could land something quality at QB in the 4th or 5th round and focus on drafting difference makers at other positions early. That was my draft strategy in the two spots I drafted in (5th and 7th).

IMO, Rodgers is the only QB I can see a great argument in taking ahead any of the top 3 RBs. But it's not like those two other QBs are scrub picks. :mrgreen:

EDIT - Other factors for me is I am leery about Brady's offensive line and how the loss of Sean Payton might affect Brees. Those situations may not end up hurting either guy in the end but it is enough of a question mark for me to be uneasy about drafting them top 5.

by **Hammy** » Sun 9/02/12 12:06 pm

Armadillo wrote:OK, here's my results, picking 2nd out of 8:

QB: Matthew Stafford
RB: Ray Rice
RB: Michael Turner
WR: Andre Johnson
WR: Roddy White
WR: Mike Wallace
TE: Jermaine Gresham
TE: Greg Olsen
K: Mason Crosby
DEF: San Francisco
BN: Joe Flacco
BN: Ahmad Bradshaw
BN: Beanie Wells
BN: Peyton Hillis
BN: Jeremy Maclin
BN: Lance Moore

Lots of friggin' WR/TE in this league.

I'm wondering... what round did you take Andre Johnson in? He seems to be a guy that if you draft early, people think it is a mistake but a round or two later, then he starts looking like a nice bargain.

by **Snowcool08** » Sun 9/02/12 12:14 pm

So let's say you have the 5th pick. Foster, Rice, McCoy, and Rodgers off the board. Who do you take? Calvin Johnson or a QB is a much safer choice than any RB. The next group of RBs include Chris Johnson, MJD, and McFadden. All of which have some question marks. I'd rather take the QB that has consistently put up good numbers. I want my 1st round pick to be good, not a gamble.

by **Hammy** » Sun 9/02/12 12:42 pm

I was in that spot in one draft. I was expecting to have to decide between Brady and Megatron. However, the guy at #3 overall took Brady (over Rodgers!) and McCoy ended up dropping to me at #5. While I am not a huge McCoy fan, I felt he was the best value at that spot at the time.

by **psych** » Sun 9/02/12 6:59 pm

Any chance in hell we can push back draft time? I work till 9:15 p.m. Tuesday night and I really want to be in this league. If not, I guess I will have to bow out.

by **Beauner** » Sun 9/02/12 7:09 pm

psych wrote:Any chance in hell we can push back draft time? I work till 9:15 p.m. Tuesday night and I really want to be in this league. If not, I guess I will have to bow out.

You could just put it on auto-draft and pre-rank players until you're able to get back?

by **psych** » Sun 9/02/12 7:12 pm

Beauner wrote:
psych wrote:Any chance in hell we can push back draft time? I work till 9:15 p.m. Tuesday night and I really want to be in this league. If not, I guess I will have to bow out.

You could just put it on auto-draft and pre-rank players until you're able to get back?

How do I do that exactly?

by **gopherguy13** » Sun 9/02/12 7:33 pm

psych wrote:
Beauner wrote:
psych wrote:Any chance in hell we can push back draft time? I work till 9:15 p.m. Tuesday night and I really want to be in this league. If not, I guess I will have to bow out.

You could just put it on auto-draft and pre-rank players until you're able to get back?

How do I do that exactly?

It will auto pick for you if you don't log in for the draft. Once you enter the draft it will take you on auto pick.

You don't want to be on auto draft for too long, the Yahoo auto draft is terrible. Unless you want the best kicker and defense! :wink:

by **Beauner** » Sun 9/02/12 7:35 pm

psych wrote:
Beauner wrote:
psych wrote:Any chance in hell we can push back draft time? I work till 9:15 p.m. Tuesday night and I really want to be in this league. If not, I guess I will have to bow out.

You could just put it on auto-draft and pre-rank players until you're able to get back?

How do I do that exactly?

It will auto-draft automatically if you don't log in to the draft. As soon as you log in, the auto draft shuts off.
To pre-rank, just go to your team's page and it should give you the option to pre-rank players rather than use Yahoo's stock rankings as soon as you sign in.
The Auto-draft will draft all your needs first before starting getting your bench set, so that would be something to think about. Just get back before round 8

by **psych** » Sun 9/02/12 7:40 pm

Cool, thanks gopherguy13 and Beauner. I should be back by ~9:30, so everyone make sure you draft REALLY slow so that I am back by round 8. :mrgreen:

by **Snowcool08** » Sun 9/02/12 9:10 pm

Even if I wanted to change the draft time, the latest time available on Tuesday is 4:45 pm. I found out this weekend that I have to work til 9 as well. Hopefully I get out a bit early to make it on time.

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