Twins 2012 season

[dryfly]

I get the feeling that Wrigley is more the place to get drunk and be seen rather than watch baseball.

Unless you are seen on TV by your boss and you called in sick so you could go to the game... I KNOW people who had that happen to them. Then again their boss had the Cubs on in the office as an incentive for people to take a vacation day [as opposed to call in sick] if they felt the need to play hookie.

[Handyman]

Nobody likes you Dennis!

Fine by me...Dakarai doesnt need ya!

I especially dont need ya if you cheer for the cubs...means you are just a drunk loser anyways

[Tee09]

Nobody likes you Dennis!

Fine by me...Dakarai doesnt need ya!

I especially dont need ya if you cheer for the cubs...means you are just a drunk loser anyways

Geez. What a prick that demetrius guy is.

[HockeyBum]

I hate the Cubs...and I still find Wrigley to be overrated. Yes it is a very nice stadium but it is not the mecca that their fans make it out to be.

I've got mixed feelings about Wrigley. I enjoyed it, but the restrooms and concourses suck (that's to be expected with such an old stadium, I suppose).

As far as overrated, I don't have to look any further than Target Field. I've only been to 6 other MLB ballparks, and I'd rate 2 of those higher than Target Field (San Francisco and Baltimore). There are several more I haven't been to, but look like they would probably be included in that list (Pittsburgh, Seattle, LA (Dodgers), and Denver to name a few). I don't know. It's nice, but TF doesn't do much for me.

[Gopherguy05]

I hate the Cubs...and I still find Wrigley to be overrated. Yes it is a very nice stadium but it is not the mecca that their fans make it out to be.

I've got mixed feelings about Wrigley. I enjoyed it, but the restrooms and concourses suck (that's to be expected with such an old stadium, I suppose).

As far as overrated, I don't have to look any further than Target Field. I've only been to 6 other MLB ballparks, and I'd rate 2 of those higher than Target Field (San Francisco and Baltimore). There are several more I haven't been to, but look like they would probably be included in that list (Pittsburgh, Seattle, LA (Dodgers), and Denver to name a few). I don't know. It's nice, but TF doesn't do much for me.

Dodger stadium looks nice, but there are no amenities. Its straight out of 1962. Target Field is much better.

[dryfly]

Dodger stadium looks nice, but there are no amenities. Its straight out of 1962...

Note to self - if ever I go to Dodger Stadium remember to bring Mrs. Robinson...

[rowshkex]

Apparently PNC Park is one of the best stadiums out there...

[Armadillo]

Nobody likes you Dennis!

Fine by me...Dakarai doesnt need ya!

I especially dont need ya if you cheer for the cubs...means you are just a drunk loser anyways

Hey, who the hell are you calling a loser?

[Greyeagle]

Apparently PNC Park is one of the best stadiums out there...

PNC is very, very nice. Camden is still my favorite. Will attend my first game at Fenway in September, very excited to see it.

Willingham needs to swing at that pitch.

[gopherguy13]

The Twins HAVE to lead the MLB in "almost HR's" in the last 5 years.

Fantastic warning track power.

[dryfly]

The Twins HAVE to lead the MLB in "almost HR's" in the last 5 years.

Fantastic warning track power.

That's why we need to move the fence in at Target - and maybe lower it too. Like a backyard chain link.

[Hobey Baker]

Once again Handy, you just dont get it!!!!

I Could not disagree with you more. Wrigley is a mecca. It oozes everything that old time baseball was (and has added some updates that were needed). Yes, it is very festive outside the ballpark but there is no atmosphere around a ball park like it in the majors. I think the Cubs fans get it.. they are going to have a good time regardless if there team is playing well or not. It is more like a college football tailgate. Of the new stadiums built, Coors Field has come closest with its bars and restaurants on Blake st.

Cubs fans are annoying because they play up the "we are loveable losers" BS but then whine their team never wins. Guess what, if I owned the Cubs I would never put much effort into winning either because I dont have to...the idiots are gonna show no matter what. Just make sure there is enough beer in the bleachers and the sheep will graze.

Feel free to fawn over Wrigley all you want, I went there and I forgot it right after I left. The atmosphere around Wrigley, the bars and stuff is awesome. The stadium itself I found to be rather lame.

were you dropped on your head as a baby??

[dxmnkd316]

Crap... We suck again... This isn't good. Not good at all...

[Neely]

Apparently PNC Park is one of the best stadiums out there...

PNC is very, very nice. Camden is still my favorite. Will attend my first game at Fenway in September, very excited to see it.

Willingham needs to swing at that pitch.

Fenway is a dump...but still my favorite park. Love Wrigley (both inside and out) but afriad to say that here as I might get called out for being an idiot so I will deny I ever said that. I visited old Yankee the same year as Fenway but didn't enjoy it as much. May have been that at Fenway I somehow lucked out and got amazing seats and may have to do with riding the train there and walking up to a park somehow wedged into neighborhood like that. Don't get me wrong, Yankee was great but behind Fenway and Wrigley for me. Also, US Cellular (or whatever they call it these days) really isn't as bad as people claim.

[Elm Grove Gopher]

I know I'll get chastised but here goes:

Fenway is very cool, and everyone should go once in their life. The atmosphere in the neighborhood around Fenway makes the experience as much as the Park itself. I'll throw out 2 I like that I haven't seen mentioned (and laugh if you want):

The Ball Park at Arlington I really enjoy, and one I really, really like (much better than TF) is Kaufman (aka Royals) Stadium. Well designed, great sight lines, intimate, great BBQ...it has stood the test of time, especially for those 1970's cookie cutter stadiums...I think HOK did it?

Just my two cents.

[Chris Eckes]

Kaufman is my favorite ballpark, but I have not yet been to PNC (which I've heard is amazing). Wrigley is awesome. But seriously, head down to Kaufman when the Twins are playing. Easy road trip (6-7 hours), cheap tickets, BEAUTIFUL ballpark.

[rowshkex]

Kaufman is my favorite ballpark, but I have not yet been to PNC (which I've heard is amazing). Wrigley is awesome. But seriously, head down to Kaufman when the Twins are playing. Easy road trip (6-7 hours), cheap tickets, BEAUTIFUL ballpark.

Completely agree. I've been to several stadiums, but Kauffman is easily the best. It would only be better if it had an open views of a downtown or natural landscape.

[Neely]

Kaufman is my favorite ballpark, but I have not yet been to PNC (which I've heard is amazing). Wrigley is awesome. But seriously, head down to Kaufman when the Twins are playing. Easy road trip (6-7 hours), cheap tickets, BEAUTIFUL ballpark.

Completely agree. I've been to several stadiums, but Kauffman is easily the best. It would only be better if it had an open views of a downtown or natural landscape.

Agree, Kaufman is an outstanding park, no doubt. I also enjoyed PNC. Setting is 2nd to none.

[gopher wes]

My dad went to Kaufman with a group of guys a number of years ago and said it was a blast and the stadium is everything these guys are saying apparently. I'd love to roadtrip it down there some time! I'm doing Wrigley in a couple weeks as I said earlier and I hope to someday hit US Cellular for a Twins series in the near future since I have a buddy that lives in Chicago. I just couldn't make it work this summer because none of the Twins series there were weekend series and I don't want to skip any work(gotta save those Fridays off for hockey season ).

[rowshkex]

My dad went to Kaufman with a group of guys a number of years ago and said it was a blast and the stadium is everything these guys are saying apparently. I'd love to roadtrip it down there some time! I'm doing Wrigley in a couple weeks as I said earlier and I hope to someday hit US Cellular for a Twins series in the near future since I have a buddy that lives in Chicago. I just couldn't make it work this summer because none of the Twins series there were weekend series and I don't want to skip any work(gotta save those Fridays off for hockey season ).

Like someone else said, part of the enjoyment of Kauffman is that it's simply a 6 hour drive down 35. The trip is short enough to do what a fiend of mine and two other guys did: we couldn't make it to the Friday or Sunday games, so we drove down Saturday afternoon, watched the game, and left Sunday morning.

If you ever go, it's worth it to watch a game from the party deck in right field. Last time we were there, we had upper deck tickets but just hung out on the rails on the deck (it doesn't hurt that the Twins won something like 24-1, haha...).

[sunbone]

Wrigley is my favorite of the old ballparks I have been to. Fenway was my least favorite, by far. Which was really disappointing because of how much I was looking forward to it. Our seats the first game were down the first base line and they actually faced center field. It was brutal. The second game we were in right field and at least facing the plate. But Pedro Martinez was throwing a gem, think he ended up with a 2 hitter. But the fans around us were more interested in playing with a beach ball. Until we deflated it and got booed. And people say Cubs fans are just there to party. The stadium was falling apart, the fans were awful, and they only served light beer. I actually enjoyed the old Tiger Stadium twice as much as Fenway.

[h8red]

Since the season is lost and the team isn't getting any power from the 3B or RF positions let's bring up the #1 rated prospect.
Here is his stats from low A ball. More than 50% of his AB's end in a HR, walk or SO. The number of errors is alarming. It will at least 2014 and probably 2015 before the Twins will be competitive again, this kid might not be polished enough by then.

Player POS G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG OPS E
Miguel Sano 3B 38 136 27 39 9 2 11 35 85 24 42 2 1 .406 .625 .287 1.031 11

I know a kid in a Babe Ruth league that hits for good power & doesn't make many errors. He also pitches pretty well.
I'll email the Twins to see if they can give him a look.

[Armadillo]

Parks I've been to:

1. Target Field: yeah, you all know.
2. County Stadium: a total dump, but it had a charm to it.
3. Miller Park: love the brats, hate pretty much everything else. Has all the charm of a Costco.
4. Wrigley Field: best pure baseball experience in the country. Getting in and out can be a nightmare.
5. US Cellular: I went before the renovation, but I wasn't impressed. I need to go again.
6. Kaufmann Stadium: an absolute gem, completely underrated. The only problem is that June-August is like an oven.
7. Busch Stadium: great atmosphere, great fans, suffers from same "oven" problem as Kansas City
8. Rangers Ballpark: Hot, hot, hot. I don't remember much else.
9. Minute Maid Ballpark: Quirky, weird, hangar-like, but nice view of downtown.
10.Coors Field: Great city, great park, it's held up as one of the better "new retro" parks.
11. Tiger Stadium: I spent four innings here, and regret not spending more. In my defense, my first girlfriend had dumped me by phone a couple of hours before the game, and I was sufficiently teenage-emo that evening. Also, the concourses smelled of pee.
12. Comerica Park: Surprisingly nice and comfortable, considering the craphole town it's in.
13. Progressive Field: Nice. I watched Kenny Rogers throw 7 1/3 perfect innings here before two jackbags behind us showed up and promptly said, "oh look, he's throwing a perfect game!" *Walk*. "Well, at least it's still a no-hitter!" *Double off the wall*.
14. Riverfront Stadium (Cincinnati) Total dump. Saw two games here, unfortunately. Woof.
15: Great American Ballpark: the definition of "meh." Nice enough park, but nothing special.
16. PNC Park: Gorgeous. A true gem. Best downtown view in the majors, and one of the main reasons I love Pittsburgh.
17. Veterans Stadium (Philadelphia): Not as bad as I had heard, but still godawful. Port-os in the concourse.
18. Rogers Centre: Oy. The good people of Toronto deserve a LOT better.
19. Fenway Park: second-best pure baseball experience in the country. Cramped as hell though, and Fenway Franks are overrated.
20. Old Yankee Stadium: The field itself is the ground of legends, the stadium SUCKED. Cramped, stinky, and not historic enough to justify it after being renovated in 1975. The fans, despite their reputation, were really cool even though they were playing the Twins.
21. Shea Stadium: my dad and I take the 7 train from Times Square, it's no-breathing-room cramped, at least 105 degrees in the car, we walk out into the hottest, most humid day in NYC in years, pay exorbitant prices for the Mets-Phillies game, choke down a mediocre hot dog, go to our crappy seats, and I get SPIT ON for wearing a Twins (!) hat. We left after three. f*** the Mets, f*** their fans, and f*** their old s**t stadium.
22. Camden Yards: Great old-timey feel, at the time it was still novel to have a retro park, and Eutaw Street is a killer hangout spot.

[rowshkex]

Parks I've been to:

1. Target Field: yeah, you all know.
2. County Stadium: a total dump, but it had a charm to it.
3. Miller Park: love the brats, hate pretty much everything else. Has all the charm of a Costco.
4. Wrigley Field: best pure baseball experience in the country. Getting in and out can be a nightmare.
5. US Cellular: I went before the renovation, but I wasn't impressed. I need to go again.
6. Kaufmann Stadium: an absolute gem, completely underrated. The only problem is that June-August is like an oven.
7. Busch Stadium: great atmosphere, great fans, suffers from same "oven" problem as Kansas City
8. Rangers Ballpark: Hot, hot, hot. I don't remember much else.
9. Minute Maid Ballpark: Quirky, weird, hangar-like, but nice view of downtown.
10.Coors Field: Great city, great park, it's held up as one of the better "new retro" parks.
11. Tiger Stadium: I spent four innings here, and regret not spending more. In my defense, my first girlfriend had dumped me by phone a couple of hours before the game, and I was sufficiently teenage-emo that evening. Also, the concourses smelled of pee.
12. Comerica Park: Surprisingly nice and comfortable, considering the craphole town it's in.
13. Progressive Field: Nice. I watched Kenny Rogers throw 7 1/3 perfect innings here before two jackbags behind us showed up and promptly said, "oh look, he's throwing a perfect game!" *Walk*. "Well, at least it's still a no-hitter!" *Double off the wall*.
14. Riverfront Stadium (Cincinnati) Total dump. Saw two games here, unfortunately. Woof.
15: Great American Ballpark: the definition of "meh." Nice enough park, but nothing special.
16. PNC Park: Gorgeous. A true gem. Best downtown view in the majors, and one of the main reasons I love Pittsburgh.
17. Veterans Stadium (Philadelphia): Not as bad as I had heard, but still godawful. Port-os in the concourse.
18. Rogers Centre: Oy. The good people of Toronto deserve a LOT better.
19. Fenway Park: second-best pure baseball experience in the country. Cramped as hell though, and Fenway Franks are overrated.
20. Old Yankee Stadium: The field itself is the ground of legends, the stadium SUCKED. Cramped, stinky, and not historic enough to justify it after being renovated in 1975. The fans, despite their reputation, were really cool even though they were playing the Twins.
21. Shea Stadium: my dad and I take the 7 train from Times Square, it's no-breathing-room cramped, at least 105 degrees in the car, we walk out into the hottest, most humid day in NYC in years, pay exorbitant prices for the Mets-Phillies game, choke down a mediocre hot dog, go to our crappy seats, and I get SPIT ON for wearing a Twins (!) hat. We left after three. f*** the Mets, f*** their fans, and f*** their old s**t stadium.
22. Camden Yards: Great old-timey feel, at the time it was still novel to have a retro park, and Eutaw Street is a killer hangout spot.

Dayumn, gurl... When you takin' me on a trip?

[dxmnkd316]

Parks I've been to:

3. Miller Park: love the brats

They were the same brats available in the Metrodome. meh.

[Armadillo]

Parks I've been to:

3. Miller Park: love the brats

They were the same brats available in the Metrodome. meh.

You do this just to give me the rage shakes, don't you?

[Beauner]

Miguel Cabrera just stole 2B on Liriano/Mauer with relative ease.

By the way, Gardy's management of DeVries last night was brutal. Even Gorg noticed he was leaving the ball up in the zone in the 4th and 5th and was getting lucky to keep the ball in the yard (had a HR reviewed and called foul). When Gorg notices something baseball related, you know it is pretty obvious.
The Twins had a lead going to bottom 6, Gardy left him in despite a fresh bullpen, having had a day off, then a CG from a starter, in 2 of the three days before the game. He left the ball up and gave up a couple more HRs in the 6th en route to a L.
Why not take the kid out after 5 and let him get a chance to get a W in his first major league start? He was leaving the ball up. Good hitters don't miss balls up in the zone for long.

[Bushwood Gopher]

Miguel Cabrera just stole 2B on Liriano/Mauer with relative ease.

By the way, Gardy's management of DeVries last night was brutal. Even Gorg noticed he was leaving the ball up in the zone in the 4th and 5th and was getting lucky to keep the ball in the yard (had a HR reviewed and called foul). When Gorg notices something baseball related, you know it is pretty obvious.
The Twins had a lead going to bottom 6, Gardy left him in despite a fresh bullpen, having had a day off, then a CG from a starter, in 2 of the three days before the game. He left the ball up and gave up a couple more HRs in the 6th en route to a L.
Why not take the kid out after 5 and let him get a chance to get a W in his first major league start? He was leaving the ball up. Good hitters don't miss balls up in the zone for long.

I said pretty much verbatim what you wrote here to the people I was watching the game with last night. Everything he threw in the 4th & 5th inning was up in the zone. I thought there was almost no chance if he pitched the 6th that he would leave with a lead. 5 innings with the lead was about as good as they could have hoped. But Gardy has frequently said that he won't change pitchers unless the lead has been surrendered. And no, I'm not making that up.

On a different subject, I do get a ton of entertainment watching Ben Revere throw a baseball. That three hopper he lasered into 3rd the last inning from deep 2nd base was a thing of beauty!

[Beauner]

Delmon missed hitting against Twins pitchers.

[dryfly]

Crap... We suck again... This isn't good. Not good at all...

LOL - your gonna need meds before this season is over.

[dryfly]

We are tied with the Cubs for worst record in baseball but at least we are 5-5 over the last 10 games... Cubbies are 0-10.

Not enough beer in all of Chicago make that b**** look good.

[dxmnkd316]

Parks I've been to:

3. Miller Park: love the brats

They were the same brats available in the Metrodome. meh.

You do this just to give me the rage shakes, don't you?

I'm dead serious. Kramarcuk's are far superior.

[dxmnkd316]

Crap... We suck again... This isn't good. Not good at all...

LOL - your gonna need meds before this season is over.

Probably. (If you don't have fun with it, the season will drive you crazy.)

[dryfly]

Crap... We suck again... This isn't good. Not good at all...

LOL - your gonna need meds before this season is over.

Probably. (If you don't have fun with it, the season will drive you crazy.)

I 100% agree ...

[dryfly]

Parks I've been to:

3. Miller Park: love the brats

They were the same brats available in the Metrodome. meh.

You do this just to give me the rage shakes, don't you?

I'm dead serious. Kramarcuk's are far superior.

Not even a contest.

[Armadillo]

I'm dead serious. Kramarcuk's are far superior.

Well, yeah. That goes without saying. I wasn't comparing Miller Park brats to Kramarczuk's.

[bearpaw28]

Bottom of 8th...2 men on BASE, DOWN 6-3...JoMo at plate...takes strike one (AS USUAL), swings at strike 2, TAKES ball ONE, then swings at STRIKE 3...WHAT A BUST THIS GUY is in CLUTCH....HE is....THE BISARO WORLD EQUIV...OF KIRBY PUCKETT!

[Gopherguy05]

Bottom of 8th...2 men on BASE, DOWN 6-3...JoMo at plate...takes strike one (AS USUAL), swings at strike 2, TAKES ball ONE, then swings at STRIKE 3...WHAT A BUST THIS GUY is in CLUTCH....HE is....THE BISARO WORLD EQUIV...OF KIRBY PUCKETT!

Not to make you look like more of an idiot, but he is batting 333 with 2 outs and runners in scoring position this season.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... lutc::none

[Bushwood Gopher]

Bottom of 8th...2 men on BASE, DOWN 6-3...JoMo at plate...takes strike one (AS USUAL), swings at strike 2, TAKES ball ONE, then swings at STRIKE 3...WHAT A BUST THIS GUY is in CLUTCH....HE is....THE BISARO WORLD EQUIV...OF KIRBY PUCKETT!

Not to make you look like more of an idiot, but he is batting 333 with 2 outs and runners in scoring position this season.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... lutc::none

The sample size was over 15 whole at bats? That's a strong argument. Hey, if he had just gotten two more hits in those 15 at bats he'd maybe have the highest 2 OUT WRISP avg of all time!

Since we're having fun with numbers, here are some to consider. Guess which players belong to the following lines:

(A) 133AB 25BB 21SO .278/.388/.421 1HR 20RBI
(B) 161AB 29BB 19SO .298/.408/.416 2HR 20RBI

If you guessed 'A' - 2011 Little Nicky Punto and 'B' - 2012 Little Joey Mauer you are correct...

[bearpaw28]

Bottom of 8th...2 men on BASE, DOWN 6-3...JoMo at plate...takes strike one (AS USUAL), swings at strike 2, TAKES ball ONE, then swings at STRIKE 3...WHAT A BUST THIS GUY is in CLUTCH....HE is....THE BISARO WORLD EQUIV...OF KIRBY PUCKETT!

Not to make you look like more of an idiot, but he is batting 333 with 2 outs and runners in scoring position this season.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... lutc::none

IT Also says his batting ave is .217 in late and close ballgames. Late & Close are Plate Appearances in the 7th or later with the batting team tied, ahead by one, or the tying run at least on deck.

With 2 outs and RISP....7 walks in 22 at bats and 5 hits....look at the numbers any way you want...he is still BISARO KIRBY...for the bargain price of $20 mllion plus each year!

[gopherguy13]

Bottom of 8th...2 men on BASE, DOWN 6-3...JoMo at plate...takes strike one (AS USUAL), swings at strike 2, TAKES ball ONE, then swings at STRIKE 3...WHAT A BUST THIS GUY is in CLUTCH....HE is....THE BISARO WORLD EQUIV...OF KIRBY PUCKETT!

Not to make you look like more of an idiot, but he is batting 333 with 2 outs and runners in scoring position this season.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... lutc::none

The sample size was over 15 whole at bats? That's a strong argument. Hey, if he had just gotten two more hits in those 15 at bats he'd maybe have the highest 2 OUT WRISP avg of all time!

Since we're having fun with numbers, here are some to consider. Guess which players belong to the following lines:

(A) 133AB 25BB 21SO .278/.388/.421 1HR 20RBI
(B) 161AB 29BB 19SO .298/.408/.416 2HR 20RBI

If you guessed 'A' - 2011 Little Nicky Punto and 'B' - 2012 Little Joey Mauer you are correct...

Jesus.........

[jallengarry]

Bottom of 8th...2 men on BASE, DOWN 6-3...JoMo at plate...takes strike one (AS USUAL), swings at strike 2, TAKES ball ONE, then swings at STRIKE 3...WHAT A BUST THIS GUY is in CLUTCH....HE is....THE BISARO WORLD EQUIV...OF KIRBY PUCKETT!

Not to make you look like more of an idiot, but he is batting 333 with 2 outs and runners in scoring position this season.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... lutc::none

The sample size was over 15 whole at bats? That's a strong argument. Hey, if he had just gotten two more hits in those 15 at bats he'd maybe have the highest 2 OUT WRISP avg of all time!

Since we're having fun with numbers, here are some to consider. Guess which players belong to the following lines:

(A) 133AB 25BB 21SO .278/.388/.421 1HR 20RBI
(B) 161AB 29BB 19SO .298/.408/.416 2HR 20RBI

If you guessed 'A' - 2011 Little Nicky Punto and 'B' - 2012 Little Joey Mauer you are correct...

So then...what is your point? That Nick was playing fairly well over his head and Joe was under-performing during that time period. O.K. fine....That's about as useful a statistical comparison has the one you were mocking.

[rowshkex]

Here we go again with the Joe Mauer discussion...

[gopherguy13]

So then...what is your point? That Nick was playing fairly well over his head and Joe was under-performing during that time period. O.K. fine....That's about as useful a statistical comparison has the one you were mocking.

Is this what it has come to? We're talking about a guy making 23 million dollars here...

It's not like Punto was playing that much over his ability level. Those are pretty much par for the course Punto numbers.

The fact that Mauer is right there with him statistically should be embarrassing for Joe.

[rowshkex]

Eh, all players have bad years. I'm pretty ecstatic when comparing Mauer to Pujols...

[Maize]

Eh, all players have bad years. I'm pretty ecstatic when comparing Mauer to Pujols...

You must not have compared them lately, since Pujols has twice as many home runs in his last five games as Mauer has all season.

[Slap Shot]

I think Ortiz would have become like Mauer had he been stuck with the Twins coaching staff. No, I am not saying that Mauer = Ortiz. However, I think Mauer has the talent to do so much more but the Twins hold him back and enable him to him to be a total wuss at the plate. I remember thinking when Ortiz was with the Twins that he would never be willing to stick with the Twins for the very same reasons.

[gopherguy13]

Eh, all players have bad years. I'm pretty ecstatic when comparing Mauer to Pujols...

You must not have compared them lately, since Pujols has twice as many home runs in his last five games as Mauer has all season.

I thought the same thing, but HR is like the only category where Pujols is better than Mauer (including RBI)

[Chris83]

Well, the important thing is that with 16 strikeouts Gardy was pleased with the Twins quality of at-bats.

[Greyeagle]

Well, the important thing is that with 16 strikeouts Gardy was pleased with the Twins quality of at-bats.

The boys are battlin.

[dxmnkd316]

Here we go again with the Joe Mauer discussion...

It gets old quick.

[dxmnkd316]

OMFG JOE MAUER HITS AN RBI DOUBLE TO TIE THE GAME!!!! WORST TWIN EVAR!

[Armadillo]

OMFG JOE MAUER HITS AN RBI DOUBLE TO TIE THE GAME!!!! WORST TWIN EVAR!

Get back to me when it's an RBI double to win the game.

/sarc

[dxmnkd316]

OMFG JOE MAUER HITS AN RBI DOUBLE TO TIE THE GAME!!!! WORST TWIN EVAR!

Get back to me when it's an RBI double to win the game.

/sarc

I hate you

[Bushwood Gopher]

It gets old quick talking about Joe Mauer.

[Beauner]

Eh, all players have bad years. I'm pretty ecstatic when comparing Mauer to Pujols...

You must not have compared them lately, since Pujols has twice as many home runs in his last five games as Mauer has all season.

I thought the same thing, but HR is like the only category where Pujols is better than Mauer (including RBI)

21 is bigger than 26?

[Bushwood Gopher]

We must throw more 0 - 2 cookies than any pitching staff in the history of baseball. Heaven forbid you try to move out of the strike zone a couple times to get the guy to chase.

[bearpaw28]

0-2 count Capps to Cabrara...then a fastball left up in the zone and BOOM!

This team is pathetic.

[Beauner]

We must throw more 0 - 2 cookies than any pitching staff in the history of baseball. Heaven forbid you try to move out of the strike zone a couple times to get the guy to chase.

I liked that Bremer tried to justify that by saying "Cabrera is just so strong he's able to muscle that ball out."
That pitch was a low 90s fastball, thigh high, middle in. Any power hitter's wet dream.

At least Revere had a great AB in bottom 9 trying to sacrifice bunt on a ball thrown at eye level.

Nice of Gardy to PR Mastroanni there too on the off chance Morneau singled, he definitely would have scored from 1B

[gopherguy13]

Eh, all players have bad years. I'm pretty ecstatic when comparing Mauer to Pujols...

You must not have compared them lately, since Pujols has twice as many home runs in his last five games as Mauer has all season.

I thought the same thing, but HR is like the only category where Pujols is better than Mauer (including RBI)

21 is bigger than 26?

Didn't Pujols just get like 3 rbi's last night? I looked at the stats before that game. Mauer and Pujols were within a couple rbis of each other

[Hobey Baker]

I think Ortiz would have become like Mauer had he been stuck with the Twins coaching staff. No, I am not saying that Mauer = Ortiz. However, I think Mauer has the talent to do so much more but the Twins hold him back and enable him to him to be a total wuss at the plate. I remember thinking when Ortiz was with the Twins that he would never be willing to stick with the Twins for the very same reasons.

Not following you here ... Joe won 3 batting titles and hit 28 Homers (then signed him to a huge contract )and you are saying that the Twins don't want him to do that and that the coaches are holding him back??? I guarantee that they want the MVP type numbers through the entire organization.

The problem with Joe (IMO) is Joe's unwillingness to adust to the new ball park.

[Slap Shot]

What's not to follow? Joe for one season decided to hit for power - earned his contract - and went back to being a slap singles hitter with an occasional double. The coaching staff should not be ok with that but they've never given any indication that they are telling him to do more. In fact I'd not be surprised if they told him, "We were ok with those PWR numbers for one year, now go back to being Carew-lite".

[dryfly]

I get old quick talking about Joe Mauer.

FIFY...

[Alby22]

Gotta love how a 6'6" 240 lb guy trys to play baseball like a 5'7" lite hitting utility infielder. (with no speed) Joes favorite fish must be a pirannha

[Bushwood Gopher]

I get old quick talking about Joe Mauer.

FIFY...

I've posted fairly little about him, and when I have it certainly wasn't to bitch about his contract. Having said that, yeah I think he's fair game and certainly relevant to a Twins thread to comment in response to someone using a 15 at bat sample size as proof of his 'clutchness.' The fact is the last two seasons he's managed to turn himself into the prototypical light hitting middle infielder. Who also now leads all of MLB in GIDP. If that's clutch, well then I guess I have a different understanding of the word.

[HockeyBum]

Just turned on the game (10:25PM). How is it possible that a 2-0 game with no rain delays and not involving the Yankees or Red Sox can last 3 hrs 15+ minutes?

[Greyeagle]

Revere is a knucklehead.
Mauer goes for a change of pace and tries to hit into a 3-6-3 double play but the A's won't let him.

WILLINGHAMMER!!!!!! WOW!!!!

[Bushwood Gopher]

Revere is a knucklehead.
Mauer goes for a change of pace and tries to hit into a 3-6-3 double play but the A's won't let him.

WILLINGHAMMER!!!!!! WOW!!!!

Indeed. I figured if Joe could do anything but hit a ground ball we'd still have a decent shot with Willingham. That was a gift non turn!

Bremer may need the next two weeks off. He's been fantasizing over a walkoff HR since the stadium bill passed...

[dxmnkd316]

JFC. We won. Be happy.

[dryfly]

JFC. We won. Be happy.

Plus we are still good.

[dxmnkd316]

JFC. We won. Be happy.

Plus we are still good.

Yessir!

[Hobey Baker]

Willingham with the 2nd walk off homer in Target Field history ... Thome vs the Sox.

I watched only the bottom of the 9th ... watching the post game show. Why are the Twins wearing the M hats?? Have they been doing that all year?

[Bushwood Gopher]

JFC. We won. Be happy.

Who isn't happy?

[dxmnkd316]

JFC. We won. Be happy.

Who isn't happy?

You. We win and the first two things you post are basically bitching about Bremer and Mauer.

[Tee09]

JFC. We won. Be happy.

Who isn't happy?

Jesus. His middle initial is usually given as H, not F.