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Re: Youth Hockey

Postby momo » Thu 3/29/12 5:12 pm

stan_5150 wrote:I do memory DVD's on the side and up until this past year I did one for my oldest's teams all the way through to this year...I ran out of time :(

Parents give me some pictures, I'll put some music to them and away we go! If you're interested let me know. :wink:

What program do you use? Windows movie maker?
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Re: Youth Hockey

Postby Greyeagle » Thu 3/29/12 5:25 pm

momo wrote:
stan_5150 wrote:I do memory DVD's on the side and up until this past year I did one for my oldest's teams all the way through to this year...I ran out of time :(

Parents give me some pictures, I'll put some music to them and away we go! If you're interested let me know. :wink:

What program do you use? Windows movie maker?


I used Movie Maker for my son's HS graduation - instead posting pictures on a board or something - and it's easy to learn and use.
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Re: Youth Hockey

Postby stan_5150 » Fri 3/30/12 8:42 am

Greyeagle wrote:
momo wrote:
stan_5150 wrote:I do memory DVD's on the side and up until this past year I did one for my oldest's teams all the way through to this year...I ran out of time :(

Parents give me some pictures, I'll put some music to them and away we go! If you're interested let me know. :wink:

What program do you use? Windows movie maker?


I used Movie Maker for my son's HS graduation - instead posting pictures on a board or something - and it's easy to learn and use.


I've been using a product called Pro Show Gold by a company called Photodex. (the link is for the latest/greatest).

http://www.photodex.com/proshow5

If you have any questions send me a message, or send me an email stan_5150@charter.net
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Re: Youth Hockey

Postby george » Fri 9/21/12 7:57 am

Anyone with opinions on the new AA class for PW and Bantam kids in MN Hockey? Seems to have a reasonable justification behind it to give smaller associations a shot at State A championships. Not sure how it will play out though....
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Re: Youth Hockey

Postby PrideOnIce » Fri 9/21/12 9:22 am

george wrote:Anyone with opinions on the new AA class for PW and Bantam kids in MN Hockey? Seems to have a reasonable justification behind it to give smaller associations a shot at State A championships. Not sure how it will play out though....



Is it to give the smaller association a shot at State or to ensure that more BIG association have a shot at State?

The logic that I cannot square in my own head is the AA/ A thing kicks in at playoffs. two separate playoff paths, focus seems to be on the end result - recognized by MN Hockey There seems to be a district accepted separation at the B level - B1/B2, but at playoff time they merge into one path for a single B playoff/state championship, focus seems to be on regular season.
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Re: Youth Hockey

Postby Larch » Fri 9/21/12 6:05 pm

They have said that because there really aren't many AA teams, that it would be tough to have a whole season of AA play only and even more travel for the outstate programs that will have AA teams. The one thing I seem to be finding is that some of the associations are going to have AA teams and A teams, not sure if that was the intention or not. Brainerd has said because they don't think they can fill a AA tourney, they won't be having one, I believe they are having a A tournament in both Pee Wees and Bantams though, which would mean they are having A teams at both levels. Blame it on Moorhead for running multeiple a teams the last few year. :biggrin2:
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Re: Youth Hockey

Postby Frontroguy » Sat 9/22/12 2:21 pm

Hammy wrote:Any people here with Pee Wee A players in the family?



Did when you posted this!
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Re: Youth Hockey

Postby george » Mon 9/24/12 12:00 pm

Larch wrote:They have said that because there really aren't many AA teams, that it would be tough to have a whole season of AA play only and even more travel for the outstate programs that will have AA teams. The one thing I seem to be finding is that some of the associations are going to have AA teams and A teams, not sure if that was the intention or not. Brainerd has said because they don't think they can fill a AA tourney, they won't be having one, I believe they are having a A tournament in both Pee Wees and Bantams though, which would mean they are having A teams at both levels. Blame it on Moorhead for running multeiple a teams the last few year. :biggrin2:


I think the intent is to have the AA only really apply for District, Regions and State tourneys. Now District 6 has enough AA teams that they intend to run both AA and A seasons, but that is clearly the exception. I don't know if anyone is planning any AA tourneys. If they happen, they may be in D6.

I think one positive fallout is that it has forced the hands of some mega associations, like Edina, into having both AA and A teams. Essentially two A teams, that they have been reluctant to do. My kid plays in Edina and I have long thought we should have had more teams at higher levels instead of always going for the hardware.
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Re: Youth Hockey

Postby stan_5150 » Thu 9/27/12 10:16 am

We start Bantam tryouts in Rosemount starting this evening. Tell all your children good luck and to have some fun.
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Re: Youth Hockey

Postby george » Thu 9/27/12 12:22 pm

stan_5150 wrote:We start Bantam tryouts in Rosemount starting this evening. Tell all your children good luck and to have some fun.


We had bantam grading last Sunday at Edina with first scrimmages this weekend. About 134 kids for bantams, 168 for PW. The placement of bantams looks like they used a random number generator for placing the kids in groups instead of looking at how they actually skated in grading. I see a number of kids two levels off of where they should be, both ways. My kid is pretty close to where I thought he'd be. The scrimmages should be embarrassing or eye-opening for a lot of kids given where they got placed. :roll:
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Re: Youth Hockey

Postby Neely » Thu 9/27/12 12:58 pm

stan_5150 wrote:We start Bantam tryouts in Rosemount starting this evening. Tell all your children good luck and to have some fun.


Yes, good luck to all. I must say I am so happy my kids don't have to go through this any longer. I loved watching them play youth but tryouts are truly a meat grinder for everyone.
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Re: Youth Hockey

Postby GopherFan85 » Sat 12/15/12 12:59 pm

Reffing a Squirt hockey tournament this weekend.It's a 3 day, 4-guarantee tournament. Periods are 17 minutes, no overtime except for championship round. 8 teams and the scoring system is 3 for a win, 2 for a tie, 1 for a shut-out, 1 for period win, 0 for a period tie.

This is the first time that I have seen a scoring system like this, and also never seen a tournament use 17 minutes for Squirts. Anyone else seen anything similar.
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Re: Youth Hockey

Postby george » Sun 12/16/12 1:56 pm

GopherFan85 wrote:Reffing a Squirt hockey tournament this weekend.It's a 3 day, 4-guarantee tournament. Periods are 17 minutes, no overtime except for championship round. 8 teams and the scoring system is 3 for a win, 2 for a tie, 1 for a shut-out, 1 for period win, 0 for a period tie.

This is the first time that I have seen a scoring system like this, and also never seen a tournament use 17 minutes for Squirts. Anyone else seen anything similar.


17 minute stop time or run time? Even in Bantam it's a treat to have 15 min stop time periods, often only get 12 min stop time.
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Re: Youth Hockey

Postby stan_5150 » Tue 12/18/12 9:44 am

We did 17 minutes stop time as PeeWee's at a tournament but never as Squirts.....that is painful.
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Re: Youth Hockey

Postby GopherFan85 » Tue 12/18/12 9:31 pm

george wrote:
GopherFan85 wrote:Reffing a Squirt hockey tournament this weekend.It's a 3 day, 4-guarantee tournament. Periods are 17 minutes, no overtime except for championship round. 8 teams and the scoring system is 3 for a win, 2 for a tie, 1 for a shut-out, 1 for period win, 0 for a period tie.

This is the first time that I have seen a scoring system like this, and also never seen a tournament use 17 minutes for Squirts. Anyone else seen anything similar.


17 minute stop time or run time? Even in Bantam it's a treat to have 15 min stop time periods, often only get 12 min stop time.


Stop time! In the third period every game that I was involved in or watched there was only one team that had any energy left and that was a Canadian team. I was also informed this weekend that this particular hockey organization voted down (by only 1 vote) have ALL their tournaments 20 minute stop time periods.
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Re: Youth Hockey

Postby george » Wed 12/19/12 8:42 am

GopherFan85 wrote:
george wrote:
GopherFan85 wrote:Reffing a Squirt hockey tournament this weekend.It's a 3 day, 4-guarantee tournament. Periods are 17 minutes, no overtime except for championship round. 8 teams and the scoring system is 3 for a win, 2 for a tie, 1 for a shut-out, 1 for period win, 0 for a period tie.

This is the first time that I have seen a scoring system like this, and also never seen a tournament use 17 minutes for Squirts. Anyone else seen anything similar.


17 minute stop time or run time? Even in Bantam it's a treat to have 15 min stop time periods, often only get 12 min stop time.


Stop time! In the third period every game that I was involved in or watched there was only one team that had any energy left and that was a Canadian team. I was also informed this weekend that this particular hockey organization voted down (by only 1 vote) have ALL their tournaments 20 minute stop time periods.



Wow. Can't imagine what they were thinking. Also, can't imagine how they made any money on the tourney. Most associations use the tourney's as fund raisers, that's why they don't lengthen the games or guarantee 4 games, the ice time costs kill their profit. And, yeah, most players and certainly squirts can't skate that long with energy.
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Re: Youth Hockey

Postby GopherFan85 » Mon 12/31/12 11:02 pm

george wrote:
GopherFan85 wrote:
george wrote:
GopherFan85 wrote:Reffing a Squirt hockey tournament this weekend.It's a 3 day, 4-guarantee tournament. Periods are 17 minutes, no overtime except for championship round. 8 teams and the scoring system is 3 for a win, 2 for a tie, 1 for a shut-out, 1 for period win, 0 for a period tie.

This is the first time that I have seen a scoring system like this, and also never seen a tournament use 17 minutes for Squirts. Anyone else seen anything similar.


17 minute stop time or run time? Even in Bantam it's a treat to have 15 min stop time periods, often only get 12 min stop time.


Stop time! In the third period every game that I was involved in or watched there was only one team that had any energy left and that was a Canadian team. I was also informed this weekend that this particular hockey organization voted down (by only 1 vote) have ALL their tournaments 20 minute stop time periods.



Wow. Can't imagine what they were thinking. Also, can't imagine how they made any money on the tourney. Most associations use the tourney's as fund raisers, that's why they don't lengthen the games or guarantee 4 games, the ice time costs kill their profit. And, yeah, most players and certainly squirts can't skate that long with energy.


Actually I think tournaments are becoming more profitable for associations. I've seen a lot places that have the typical reg. fee and then a "gate fee" where teams are charged an extra $250 - 350 per team which then takes care of parents having to pay for admittance. The guaranteed games is usually 3, sometimes 4 depending on the tournament structure.
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Re: Youth Hockey

Postby GopherFan85 » Mon 12/31/12 11:11 pm

USA Hockey Rule Change Proposals for 2013

If anyone is interested here are the proposals that came through to USA Hockey this year. On the left is the current rule, on the right is the proposed change(s), and on the bottom of each proposal it give the recommendation and the rationale for the recommendation. These proposals will be voted on during the Annual Congress of USA Hockey, I believe it will be in June, so we'll see how the recommendations come out.
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Re: Youth Hockey

Postby Beauner » Tue 1/01/13 11:31 am

GopherFan85 wrote:
Actually I think tournaments are becoming more profitable for associations. I've seen a lot places that have the typical reg. fee and then a "gate fee" where teams are charged an extra $250 - 350 per team which then takes care of parents having to pay for admittance. The guaranteed games is usually 3, sometimes 4 depending on the tournament structure.


This is what MBT does for baseball. The hosting community usually charges a 300-350 dollar gate fee so parents don't have to pay to watch the individual games, and then teams get 3 guaranteed games. The gate fee usually covers field maintenance supplies and then allows the host community to purchase concessions and sell the concessions at profit.
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Re: Youth Hockey

Postby george » Tue 1/01/13 11:34 am

GopherFan85 wrote:
george wrote:
GopherFan85 wrote:
george wrote:
GopherFan85 wrote:Reffing a Squirt hockey tournament this weekend.It's a 3 day, 4-guarantee tournament. Periods are 17 minutes, no overtime except for championship round. 8 teams and the scoring system is 3 for a win, 2 for a tie, 1 for a shut-out, 1 for period win, 0 for a period tie.

This is the first time that I have seen a scoring system like this, and also never seen a tournament use 17 minutes for Squirts. Anyone else seen anything similar.


17 minute stop time or run time? Even in Bantam it's a treat to have 15 min stop time periods, often only get 12 min stop time.


Stop time! In the third period every game that I was involved in or watched there was only one team that had any energy left and that was a Canadian team. I was also informed this weekend that this particular hockey organization voted down (by only 1 vote) have ALL their tournaments 20 minute stop time periods.



Wow. Can't imagine what they were thinking. Also, can't imagine how they made any money on the tourney. Most associations use the tourney's as fund raisers, that's why they don't lengthen the games or guarantee 4 games, the ice time costs kill their profit. And, yeah, most players and certainly squirts can't skate that long with energy.


Actually I think tournaments are becoming more profitable for associations. I've seen a lot places that have the typical reg. fee and then a "gate fee" where teams are charged an extra $250 - 350 per team which then takes care of parents having to pay for admittance. The guaranteed games is usually 3, sometimes 4 depending on the tournament structure.


The reasons for the gate fee are; the host association doesn't have to have volunteers manning the front door collecting gate fees, and the parents now pay for Grandma and Grandpa to come watch Johnny and Sally play.
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Re: Youth Hockey

Postby GopherFan85 » Fri 3/01/13 6:26 pm

I know this is a week late but the Fargo Squirt International was played last weekend and it was a great tournament. 128 teams in town for a weekend and 300 plus games. Best of all, from what I reffed and from other refs I talked to, that most teams and coaches were relaxed and well behaved making the tournament even more enjoyable.


Shameless plug...registration for next years tournament is now open for next years event. This year there was over 170 applications. 5 game guarantee.There was discussion of breaking up the tournament into 2 weekends, 1 each for A and B, for the tournament that just concluded. Maybe that is in discussion for next year. If they do that I would guess they would try and expand the tournament in regards to the number of teams.
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Re: Youth Hockey

Postby Tanner » Sat 3/02/13 12:02 pm

GopherFan85 wrote:I know this is a week late but the Fargo Squirt International was played last weekend and it was a great tournament. 128 teams in town for a weekend and 300 plus games. Best of all, from what I reffed and from other refs I talked to, that most teams and coaches were relaxed and well behaved making the tournament even more enjoyable.


Shameless plug...registration for next years tournament is now open for next years event. This year there was over 170 applications. 5 game guarantee.There was discussion of breaking up the tournament into 2 weekends, 1 each for A and B, for the tournament that just concluded. Maybe that is in discussion for next year. If they do that I would guess they would try and expand the tournament in regards to the number of teams.


By far the best tournament I participated in, I remember we played Patrick Roy's son's team and Patrick actually actually came up to watch the games. Lucky enough I got his autograph it was pretty cool!
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Re: Youth Hockey

Postby george » Mon 3/11/13 12:25 pm

By the way, all the State tournaments are this coming weekend, you can find them all listed here:
http://www.minnesotahockey.org/page/sho ... u-jr-gold-

Some of the best will be in Edina at Braemar as the Bantam and Peewee AA's will be played there.
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Re: Youth Hockey

Postby Iceburg » Thu 3/14/13 10:16 am

george wrote:By the way, all the State tournaments are this coming weekend, you can find them all listed here:
http://www.minnesotahockey.org/page/sho ... u-jr-gold-

Some of the best will be in Edina at Braemar as the Bantam and Peewee AA's will be played there.


George, hope to get over to Braemar for some of the bantam tournament. Heard that Keiffer Bellows may have been hurt in the regionals and will not be playing this weekend, have you heard that?
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Re: Youth Hockey

Postby george » Thu 3/14/13 11:45 am

Iceburg wrote:
george wrote:By the way, all the State tournaments are this coming weekend, you can find them all listed here:
http://www.minnesotahockey.org/page/sho ... u-jr-gold-

Some of the best will be in Edina at Braemar as the Bantam and Peewee AA's will be played there.


George, hope to get over to Braemar for some of the bantam tournament. Heard that Keiffer Bellows may have been hurt in the regionals and will not be playing this weekend, have you heard that?


I did hear it too, but have not confirmed it. Since my son moved to Benilde my pipeline to Edina hockey isn't what it was. :oops:

Maybe I'll text one of the BAA dads I know. I know Brian Bellows but not well enough to ask that.

ETA: Was told Bellows is OK, will play.
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